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They keep mages on leashes.



@David Gaider: Can you tell us what the Tal'Vashoth believe in?



Do they follow a different interpretation of the Qun, have their own system, or simply opose the Qun?

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AntiChri5 wrote...

They keep mages on leashes.

@David Gaider: Can you tell us what the Tal'Vashoth believe in?

Do they follow a different interpretation of the Qun, have their own system, or simply opose the Qun?


The Qun is a Lie.

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It could stem from times when Qunari males were otherwise engaged, someone would need to defend the families and settlements, such people could be defined as not fighting, merely defending/protecting. 


Has there ever been an invasion of Par Vollen? I mean, you think they wouldn't send every soldier they had to conquer, and would leave some at home. I mean, that's what just about every European society did.


Well they didn't always live on those northern islands... I have a feeling that wherever they left, they did so for a reason. Perhaps fleeing from something, considering that they don't maintain contact with the place. (Sten mentions that he doesn't even know the name of their original homeland)

Modifié par filaminstrel, 09 août 2010 - 06:36 .


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well I though he meant as in their are no women fighters because all fighters are consider, socially, male. So we could have female soldier, just she will not be considered female by her peers. That is how I interpret David Gaiders new info.

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RogueGeth wrote...

well I though he meant as in their are no women fighters because all fighters are consider, socially, male. So we could have female soldier, just she will not be considered female by her peers. That is how I interpret David Gaiders new info.


i think Sten would say: "No."

Filaminstrel wrote.....

Well they didn't always live on those northern
islands... I have a feeling that wherever they left, they did so for a
reason. Perhaps fleeing from something, considering that they don't
maintain contact with the place. (Sten mentions that he doesn't even
know the name of their original homeland)



That is assuming that ALL of them arrived at Thedas. What if this was just a raiding party/ Settler party?

Modifié par captain.subtle, 09 août 2010 - 06:38 .


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Sure. I am not doubting servival instinct. Just the training in warfare you mentioned.

Right-- as I mentioned, a female qunari would not be trained in combat (unless they were Ben-Hassrath, I suppose, but that is a very separate role from a soldier and a qunari would not consider them the same thing -- a Ben-Hassrath does not fight, they enforce religious law). The qunari do not send women to fight, and would not even consider their presence as a consideration in their defense, but if pressed a female qunari will fight-- and be fairly good at it, considering the natural qunari build. Even so, it's a very male thing to do. Your average female qunari would find it distasteful, and if she didn't that would be very baffling to other qunari. "Why do you want to be male?"

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Mr. Gaider a Qunari female squadmate and if is possible a love interest for Hawke please!!

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I think they would be arrested by the Ben-Hassrath.

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AntiChri5 wrote...

They keep mages on leashes.


Yeah but Templars keep them on leashes as well, what's the difference between both? Do the Qunari allow the Mages to practice and hone their abilities and give them positions where their powers will be useful, or shun the use of magic and just give them simple menial tasks like chef / bard?

And if they DO use magic, do they allow it for fighting purposes and allow the Female Qunari to fight with their talents (If they can be mages)?

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David Gaider wrote...

captain.subtle wrote...
Sure. I am not doubting servival instinct. Just the training in warfare you mentioned.

Right-- as I mentioned, a female qunari would not be trained in combat (unless they were Ben-Hassrath, I suppose, but that is a very separate role from a soldier and a qunari would not consider them the same thing -- a Ben-Hassrath does not fight, they enforce religious law). The qunari do not send women to fight, and would not even consider their presence as a consideration in their defense, but if pressed a female qunari will fight-- and be fairly good at it, considering the natural qunari build. Even so, it's a very male thing to do. Your average female qunari would find it distasteful, and if she didn't that would be very baffling to other qunari. "Why do you want to be male?"

Oh. That clears matters for me :happy:. Thanks!

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AntiChri5 wrote...
@David Gaider: Can you tell us what the Tal'Vashoth believe in?

Do they follow a different interpretation of the Qun, have their own system, or simply opose the Qun?

The "grey ones" have abandoned the Qun completely. Or, at least, that's how the qunari would view it. Just how much your average Tal'Vashoth has abandoned their upbringing in their heart depends on the individual. There is no organized Tal'Vashoth culture.

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David Gaider wrote...

Your average female qunari would find it distasteful, and if she didn't that would be very baffling to other qunari. "Why do you want to be male?"


This is interesting, a female Qunari fighting is considered a male but.. can a male Qunari also be considered a female by this practice? I heavily doubt that all non-fighting roles are taken by females.

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@Dave: They keep them on literal leashes.



And cut out their tounges.



They pity mages, but......kind of consider them tools.



I think Fereldens treat Mabari better.

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AntiChri5 wrote...

@Dave: They keep them on literal leashes.

And cut out their tounges.

They pity mages, but......kind of consider them tools.


Oh..

snap. I didn't expect that. Thanks.

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Dave of Canada wrote...
Yeah but Templars keep them on leashes as well, what's the difference between both?


The qunari mages are literally kept on leashes, held by an arvaarad (their "handler", if you will). The templars only keep mages on figurative leashes.

Do the Qunari allow the Mages to practice and hone their abilities and give them positions where their powers will be useful, or shun the use of magic and just give them simple menial tasks like chef / bard?


I think it would be better to think of qunari mages as trained attack dogs.

And if they DO use magic, do they allow it for fighting purposes and allow the Female Qunari to fight with their talents (If they can be mages)?


A female qunari who is a mage is no longer female. She is saarebas-- a "dangerous thing", not even a person really. So, yes, female qunari do fight with their magic, but they're considered part of the arvaarad the same way a sword would be part of the warrior.

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David Gaider wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...
Yeah but Templars keep them on leashes as well, what's the difference between both?


The qunari mages are literally kept on leashes, held by an arvaarad (their "handler", if you will). The templars only keep mages on figurative leashes.

Do the Qunari allow the Mages to practice and hone their abilities and give them positions where their powers will be useful, or shun the use of magic and just give them simple menial tasks like chef / bard?


I think it would be better to think of qunari mages as trained attack dogs.

And if they DO use magic, do they allow it for fighting purposes and allow the Female Qunari to fight with their talents (If they can be mages)?


A female qunari who is a mage is no longer female. She is saarebas-- a "dangerous thing", not even a person really. So, yes, female qunari do fight with their magic, but they're considered part of the arvaarad the same way a sword would be part of the warrior.



I see, thank you very much for the answer.

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The Qunari scare me sometimes :(

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AntiChri5 wrote...
The Qunari scare me sometimes :(

Only sometimes? That is insufficient. You will report to a re-education center immediately for questioning by the Ben-Hassrath.

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AntiChri5 wrote...

The Qunari scare me sometimes :(


Me... All the time.

EDIT: Ninja Gaidered.

Modifié par captain.subtle, 09 août 2010 - 06:54 .


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Yeah--I can see why Alistair was unerved by Sten in the first game if he knew that.

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Solid N7 wrote...

Mr. Gaider a Qunari female squadmate and if is possible a love interest for Hawke please!!


They most likely have the teammates programmed in already.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Your average female qunari would find it distasteful, and if she didn't that would be very baffling to other qunari. "Why do you want to be male?"


This is interesting, a female Qunari fighting is considered a male but.. can a male Qunari also be considered a female by this practice? I heavily doubt that all non-fighting roles are taken by females.


Almost all roles in their society are mono-gendered. So it works both ways.

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@solidn7: Yeah and David is a writer, not a programmer soooooo yeah. No real reason to ask him that.

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RogueGeth wrote...

@solidn7: Yeah and David is a writer, not a programmer soooooo yeah. No real reason to ask him that.


But he decides what the programmers program. Due to writing it.

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David Gaider wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...
Yeah but Templars keep them on leashes as well, what's the difference between both?


The qunari mages are literally kept on leashes, held by an arvaarad (their "handler", if you will). The templars only keep mages on figurative leashes.

Do the Qunari allow the Mages to practice and hone their abilities and give them positions where their powers will be useful, or shun the use of magic and just give them simple menial tasks like chef / bard?


I think it would be better to think of qunari mages as trained attack dogs.

And if they DO use magic, do they allow it for fighting purposes and allow the Female Qunari to fight with their talents (If they can be mages)?


A female qunari who is a mage is no longer female. She is saarebas-- a "dangerous thing", not even a person really. So, yes, female qunari do fight with their magic, but they're considered part of the arvaarad the same way a sword would be part of the warrior.

I've been wondering for a while, what kind of magic is considered forbidden?