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[Muttley]

First off. After reading through related posts I cant seem to find a solution to my problem.

Game Version: 1.23.1765
Game Language: English
Retail or Digital:
NWN2: Retail CD
MOTB: Atari DL
SOZ: Atari DL
Processor Manufacturer: AMD
Processor Type: AthlonXP
Processor Speed: 2500+
Operating System / Service Pack: WindowsXP with SP3
System RAM: 1 gigs
Video Card Manufacturer: ATI
Video Card Model: Radeon x1550
Video Card RAM: 256 megs
Video Card Driver Version: Latest
Sound Card Manufacturer: Unknown
Sound Card Model: Unknown
Sound Card Driver Version: Unknown

Problem
Description: I can install and run NWN2 fine so I dont think it is a
driver issue. I can install and run MOTB fine also.At this point the updater seems to work fine. I can also install and run SOZ fine. However, the updater no longer works. I have to update manually. After updating to the most recent patch the game itself fails to load.

The following error comes up:

'This
application has failed to load because the application configuration is
incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem.'

I have reinstalled the game and expansions several times.
Still with the same result: Working fine in NWN2,MOTB, and SOZ. It only stops working after the manual updates.

I would like to know why the automatic update doesnt work, as I have a 2nd machine (vista) in which the auto updater works fine. I have narrowed down the manual update problem to version 1.22.1586 and beyond. I can still run the game under version 1.21.1549

[Gorath Alpha]

Your old and weak video card was NEVER supported for this game, and thus, it's not SUPPOSED to do much of anything correctly, it's just a modified X1300, after all. 

FYI, here is a recycled copy of a March, 2007 performance list that was Pinned on the Top of the Legacy NWN Forum after it replaced a prior version.  It's out of date, but is newer than an X1550, by over a year:

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/158/index/4396251

Here it is next to a card that does work adequately well, and is two years older, but was a fast card: 

www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php

The official minimum Radeon is slower than that, and doesn't really handle the "usual" definition for what a minimum card should do:

www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php

As you can see, the poor junker card you have can't even do what it is able to do.  The X1550 can only perform at the 80% level compared to the official named minimum Radeon.  (And only has 60% od the memory bandwidth, so it can only pass 128 MBs of  VRAM over for games to use). 

Since NWN2 only uses SM-2, the existence / omission of the full range of Dx9.0c is inconsequrntial. 

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 09 août 2010 - 04:39 .

[Muttley]

First off thankyou for taking the time to reply to my post...



However, those reports you linked to seem inaccurate. From what I can read it is only showing that the card is only pixel shader 2. I know for a fact that the card I have, which is AGP not PCI by the way, is in fact pixel shader 3. I also ran an online system requirements test to which my gfx card passed minimum requirements for SOZ.

[Gorath Alpha]

If you were (pick a word for being sucker bait) enough to rely on SR Labs' typically inaccurate results, they have no idea at all that your poor old POS card is just a renamed X1300, they are more ignorant about video cards there than the average twelve year old is.

Pixel shader 3 has no relationship with IMPROVEMENTS in raw speed, on the contrary, it adds to the burden on a Low End $30 business card such as that one is (if you paid more for it, you were ripped off).

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 09 août 2010 - 03:55 .

[BomimoDK]

get less Offensive when you're helping people Gorath. That way, people won't just ignore you.

[Muttley]

I'll open up my questions to anyone else that can explain it to me.



1: What could be causing the automatic updater NOT to work. I know the servers

are up because I can update NWN2 on my other machine no problems.



2: Why does SOZ work fine on an earlier version and not after applying manual updates.



My reasons for seriously doubting it being my gfx card are because I can run NWN2 fine with the SOZ expansion. The problem seems to lie with updating beyond a certain point. Rather than fork out for a new GFX card (on an old) machine). I would first like to rule out any other possabilities.

[casadechrisso]

Why it is all true what Gorath says about the video card being a bit too weak for the game, it has nothing to do with the updater problem at all. While the video card won't give you any good performance, it'll still output a picture and the game will run on it. This is totally unrelated.

The updater problem is a known one, people ran into it regulary, I was hit by it myself. Try to find the standalone patches at the nwvault and the standalone patcher program, that's a pain in the rearside, but should work if you keep the correct order of patches.

[Muttley]

Thanks casadechrisso. Ill give that a try and let you know. I did try the standalone patches via the built in update prog but to no avail. does the standalone patcher do something different ?

[CrustyCat]

Your video card is inadequate, but, try uninstalling completely. See Selen's post here http://social.biowar...8/index/3116296 about uninstalling and installing. Also make sure you have at least .NET version 3.5 installed. Run as administrator if able, turn off antivirus, etc, etc.

[Muttley]

Finally got it working folks. I think it was combination of the Patcher prog, and .Net needing a minor update.



Thanks for all your input. Much appreciated.