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[BomimoDK]

"will you be buying DA2?"

I honestly don't know... why do you ask this early? the best you can get are leap of faith, die hard fan answers or hastily concluding thickhead hateful remarks about it.

[Aradace]

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Aradace wrote...Ummmmmm what I dont think you are realizing is that the PC version of the game is going to remain largely unchanged

No use Shepard, console dialogue wheel, one origin, more action, this not minor change, nature gameplay change, big. Big console game. No return to roots CRPG, console game try hide console mentality.

Here's the thing.  And before anyone says anything, think about it:  Is "speaking with your wallet" REALLY going to affect the sales of this game?  My guess is a big NO on that front and here's why:

1.) The RPG is evolving...Expecting "More of the same" with little change is not only naive, but unrealistic.  Accept the change and play the game, or DONT and move on.  Because there arent enough people complaining AGAINST the changes to hurt BioWare's profits much.

2.) For every one fan of the original DA (and although this is speculation, it warrents thought) that BioWare loses, they have the potential to GAIN at least 1-2 from the ME fans PLUS any "newcomers" to the franchise as a whole.  When you run it that way, it makes any "speaking with your wallet" kind of moot.

Also, you DO realize that ME2 was released for PC as well and there are seemingly people who enjoy it better on PC than console (Im a consoler myself but that's beside the point).  Seems to me that this is yet ANOTHER attempt at starting yet ANOTHER PC vs Console battle.  To which, I'll just regurgitate what I said last time:

Dont we have better things to do with our time than to sit here all day, beating an already dead and mutilated horse that no longer needs to be beaten?  Seriously, it needs to stop.  It's really stupid how the console crowd has to constantly justify their existance to the PC crowd....And it is likewise stupid (and immature) of the PC crowd constantly beating down the console crowd.  It's a pointless and meaningless battle that has waged on for FAR too long.  The faster that the PC crowd realizes that as long as there are video games being made, that there are going to be consoles, the faster this whole freakin mess can just finally DIE...

Complaining about console games and/or console gamers as a whole will do you about as much good as complaining about the changes to DA2....Which is to say NONE.  Why? Because if you decide to play DA2, you WILL play as a Human, his/her last name WILL be Hawke and he/she WILL be fully voiced so get over it....

[FedericoV]

Rubbish Hero wrote...

FedericoV wrote...The fault is ours.

I sorry I buy game support for make proper CRPG game not made anymore because console.
This console game my bad, thank you so-so. Very good.

DA:O was a PC game with a consolle port. The game was pirated and played to death on PC. The game sold 80% of its copies on consolle. So, yes, the fault is of the PC gaming community that have not supported a really good game for PC (not great, but good).

And stop making comparation with other company like Blizzard. Blizzard games sold a lot on PC because they have a strong focus about online multyplayer features that avoid piracy issues. A single player game have not such feature for definition and it's weaker against the effect of piracy.

Modifié par FedericoV, 09 août 2010 - 03:44 .

[Rubbish Hero]

BomimoDK wrote...the best you can get are leap of faith, die hard fan answers or hastily concluding thickhead hateful remarks about it.

Make leap of faith with Operation Flashpoint 2, Rainbow 6, big fail console games.
Inferior disability. Money wasted, use logical deduction, predict crap.

[Aradace]

Jimmie_Rox wrote...

Norskatt wrote...

I only like playing games on console. Pc is probably not good enough anyway. But I'm pretty sure that I will buy it.

Sorry, not good enough for what exactly? Gaming? Don't be ridiculous.

Im sure they meant THEIR PC isnt good enough for gaming....Read between the lines

[Beerfish]

Yes I'll be buying it for sure.

[B3taMaxxx]

iTomes wrote...

actually id say, if bio really is going stronger for the console market and tries to ignore the pc market, theyll suffer. reason is, that of the games bought on the consoles propably a big part was just sold because the costumer thought "ahhhh thats like god of war epic bloody hack&slash". those guys are "warned" now.

 Ah, no; those "console" minded people probably thought; oh hey, hears a cool RPG, FOR THE CONSOLE!!!

 Be "warned", we are the majority, and we aren't all stupid.

[Mudface67]

iTomes wrote...

ill wait for the reviews. if they tell me things i do not like (like total consolisation or something) i wont buy it. if the game only is only optimized for consoles and i as pc user wont have a hard time playing it on the pc (for example if the camera doesn't totally suck) and the toolset gets updated ill buy it.

Same here.

As for other games- I avoided MW2, didn't buy the first Mass Effect until it had reduced in price to what I considered fair value for a game with limited Securom activations, and I haven't bought any of the recent Ubisoft games with their insane DRM. Companies need to earn my money, and just about everything bit of info released about DA2- the proposed consolisation, the hobbling of the toolset and isometric views, the absolutely awful graphics, the 'streamlining' of dialogue, the fixed player character- has put me off. Bioware really need to go some in the next 6-7 months if they're going to persuade me to fork out cash for this.

[Rubbish Hero]

FedericoV wrote... Blizzard games sold a lot on PC because

They make good pc game.

FedericoV wrote...DA:O was a PC game with a consolle port. The
game was pirated and played to death on PC. The game sold 80% of its
copies on consolle.

Always blame pirate. Pirate pirate pirate.
Maybe game sell better on console because people  too poor ot not educated enough to build pc? Like granny children with wii, yes? Pc constantly bombared bad PR. No one speak up posative apart from Valve. gametrailers, gamespot, IGN all push head under water, want dead.

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 09 août 2010 - 03:52 .

[wickedwizzard01]

Still not convinced either way but if i decide to buy it it will probably be PC version

unless my PC can't handle it then i would buy the 360 version



It's at least cheaper than buying a new PC lol

[jenncgf]

Yes, I will buy Dragon Age 2.

[Kritanakom]

From what I've seen so far, I still believe I will buy and enjoy Dragon Age 2.

[Aradace]

Rubbish Hero wrote...

FedericoV wrote... Blizzard games sold a lot on PC because

They make good pc game.

FedericoV wrote...DA:O was a PC game with a consolle port. The
game was pirated and played to death on PC. The game sold 80% of its
copies on consolle.

Always blame pirate. Pirate pirate pirate.
Maybe game sell better on console ebcause everyone too poor ot not educated enough to build pc? Like granny children with wii, yes? Pc constantly bombared bad PR. No one speak up posative apart from Valve. gametrailers, gamespot, IGN all push head under water, want dead.

Wow..."classism" AND calling people "too stupid to build a PC" in the same post.....Im starting to understand where the "Rubbish" in your name comes from

[BallaZs]

Sure I'll buy it.

Maybe the CE too. Depends on it's price

[Rubbish Hero]

Aradace wrote...Wow..."classism" AND calling people "too stupid to build a PC" in the same post.....Im starting to understand where the "Rubbish" in your name comes from

Davinchi not write properly, I guess he big stupid head, yes?  You today build tank or fly machine today? No. Davinchi build pc. 14 year old Johnny Go Go get mummy console for Christmas Dragon Age 2: Michael Bay version  not. Excellent point still stand. Scape goat for mega greed bugger off pc.

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 09 août 2010 - 03:59 .

[B3taMaxxx]

wickedwizzard01 wrote...

Still not convinced either way but if i decide to buy it it will probably be PC version
unless my PC can't handle it then i would buy the 360 version

It's at least cheaper than buying a new PC lol

 It'd be "atleast" cheaper than spending your time on the games forums, no? 

 Seriously folks, why is this questioned asked on this forum?

 You're willing to give up the couple hours free time to post on this forum about a game you're not sure you want to buy?

 Perhaps it's me, and I have ALOT of free time (economy is great), but I don't understand these threads and the subsequent post. Are you trying to find reassurance? That of which would only come from having a fresh copy in your hands?

 "Are you going to buy this game"?

 Well, I sure as hell could of made enough money to buy several copies of this game from the limited time I've spent posting here, the OP as well, and even more so.

[Aradace]

B3taMaxxx wrote...

wickedwizzard01 wrote...

Still not convinced either way but if i decide to buy it it will probably be PC version
unless my PC can't handle it then i would buy the 360 version

It's at least cheaper than buying a new PC lol

 It'd be "atleast" cheaper than spending your time on the games forums, no? 

 Seriously folks, why is this questioned asked on this forum?

 You're willing to give up the couple hours free time to post on this forum about a game you're not sure you want to buy?

 Perhaps it's me, and I have ALOT of free time (economy is great), but I don't understand these threads and the subsequent post. Are you trying to find reassurance? That of which would only come from having a fresh copy in your hands?

 "Are you going to buy this game"?

 Well, I sure as hell could of made enough money to buy several copies of this game from the limited time I've spent posting here, the OP as well, and even more so.

And yet, you are here, reading and replying in kind.....

[B3taMaxxx]

Aradace wrote...

And yet, you are here, reading and replying in kind.....

 ...............................but, I will buy the game 


 So your point being?

Modifié par B3taMaxxx, 09 août 2010 - 04:02 .

[Aradace]

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Aradace wrote...Wow..."classism" AND calling people "too stupid to build a PC" in the same post.....Im starting to understand where the "Rubbish" in your name comes from

Davinchi not write properly, I guess he big stupid head, yes?  You today build tank or fly machine today? No. Davinchi build pc. 14 year old Johnny Go Go get mummy console for Christmas Dragon Age 2: Michael Bay version  not. Excellent point still stand. Scape goat for mega greed bugger off pc.

One more time, in actual English this time with proper sentence structure?  Or is THAT where the Rubbish in your name comes from?  Because I seriously am not understanding how "Building a tank" "Davinci" and "14 year old Johnny Go Go" getting a console for X-mas has anything to do with the price of tea in China

[Aradace]

B3taMaxxx wrote...

Aradace wrote...

And yet, you are here, reading and replying in kind.....

 ...............................but, I will buy the game 


 So your point being?

Touche lol

[FedericoV]

Rubbish Hero wrote...

FedericoV wrote... Blizzard games sold a lot on PC because

They make good pc game.

DA:O is a good PC game by any mean. So, why it has sold more on the consolle? Find a reasonable answer or try again.

Always blame pirate. Pirate pirate pirate.
Maybe game sell better on console ebcause everyone too poor ot noy educated enough to build pc? Like granny children with wii, yes?

I've allways played on my PC. I think that a gaming PC is not costly as they make it sound if you know what you're doing and it's a superior gaming platform by any mean (I admit that there are configuration issue but imho they are overrated). I never bought a consolle and I'm not interested in buying one (even if I have nothing against consolle players: to each his own).

But still, even PC games that are not exclusive sold better on consolle. So? If it's not piracy, what's the reason? You know that even indie games developed by small companies are pirated to death? If we do not realize that it's THE problem of PC gaming, we will go nowhere.

[Mike2640]

Probably not. Everything I have heard so far (And I am aware that, in the big picture, I've heard very little) is refers to changing things about DAO that I felt gave the game it's own identity. I was fine with my warden's story ending. I could live with one origin. But neutered dialogue wheel, even more "streamlined" character skills, an even bigger focus on the combat, and now no iso-view is pretty much a deal breaker.



I certainly hope i'll hear more in the future that will alleviate my concerns, but I doubt it. All in all, I expect it will be a fun action game, with light RPG elements. This is a design philosophy that I dont wish to support.



It's hard to believe that Bethesda is quickly becoming the #1 RPG developer these days.

[Rubbish Hero]

FedericoV wrote...I've allways played on my PC

Nobody cares, it's time to get over yourself. Pc elitist attitude very bad, although true very superior for winner console hold back and developer like cowboy fighting gold rush than make quality. Lots of suck. Pc gaming anyone can do, bad PR, 5000 dollar lots of bullcrap. Stigma.

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 09 août 2010 - 04:07 .

[Ryngard]

These threads are so stupid. You haven't even PLAYED it yet and already you are whining and complaining... its so frustrating for those of us who come here for information and to talk. Go nerdrage elsewhere.



To be on topic YES I will be buying DA:2. I haven't pre-ordered because I'm waiting to get a CE version. Once they announce yay or nay then I'll pre-order my copy.

[Aradace]

Rubbish Hero wrote...

FedericoV wrote...I've allways played on my PC

Nobody cares, it's time to get over yourself.

Ok....I see what's going on here.  Rubbish is just trolling at this point.  Ok everyone, time to move along here, nothing to see and mind you not feed the troll on the way out.