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[Simbacca]

ScroguBlitzen wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

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As you can see any enemy that comes across me is a JOKE and ends up dieing under a hail of gunfire.
Even on Insanity

Answer your question?

Why are you posting your awesome build in this thread exactly?

I was wondering the same.  Seems step 1 was show up in the strategy forum, step 2 was start a thread about how awesome your build is, and step 3 was to then copy/paste that build over and over again in as many threads as possible where the name vanguard was even mentioned, whether the discussion was about builds or not, because it is just it's too l33t not to...

[TexasToast712]

Simbacca wrote...

ScroguBlitzen wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...



As you can see any enemy that comes across me is a JOKE and ends up dieing under a hail of gunfire.
Even on Insanity

Answer your question?

Why are you posting your awesome build in this thread exactly?

I was wondering the same.  Seems step 1 was show up in the strategy forum, step 2 was start a thread about how awesome your build is, and step 3 was to then copy/paste that build over and over again in as many threads as possible where the name vanguard was even mentioned, whether the discussion was about builds or not, because it is just it's too l33t not to...

I was feeling nice that day so I decided to share?

[ScroguBlitzen]

@Texas- We just want to see some videos of you killing enemies in a hail of gunfire on INSANITY!!!! If you play on PC then you need fraps, if you're on 360 then all solutions are pretty expensive so just borrow your moms digital camera and set it up on something still facing the screen.

[TexasToast712]

ScroguBlitzen wrote...

@Texas- We just want to see some videos of you killing enemies in a hail of gunfire on INSANITY!!!! If you play on PC then you need fraps, if you're on 360 then all solutions are pretty expensive so just borrow your moms digital camera and set it up on something still facing the screen.

Like I said I would love too but I lack the necessary equipment. Iam currently doing another Insanity run right now to get my Shepard perfect for ME3. I also dont live with my mom. Iam a grown man. Lol. Yes Iam a Xbox 360 user as well. I'll see what I can do.

[JaegerBane]

TexasToast712 wrote...

I was feeling nice that day so I decided to share?

According to your original post you were apparently posting in response to someone's question - hence the confusion.

[Ahglock]

JaegerBane wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

I was feeling nice that day so I decided to share?

According to your original post you were apparently posting in response to someone's question - hence the confusion.

His build did include the Mattock, which last time I checked this thread is about should I take the Mattock or the viper so it seemed on point to me.

[TexasToast712]

Ahglock wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

I was feeling nice that day so I decided to share?

According to your original post you were apparently posting in response to someone's question - hence the confusion.

His build did include the Mattock, which last time I checked this thread is about should I take the Mattock or the viper so it seemed on point to me.

Next time I will just say Mattock. Lol

[JaegerBane]

Ahglock wrote...
His build did include the Mattock, which last time I checked this thread is about should I take the Mattock or the viper so it seemed on point to me.

He didn't need to tell you his entire build just to to tell u that he preferred the Mattock. That's like saying a guy who discusses his entire ancestry on being requested to state his name is being 'on point'.

It's a minor issue anyway - all I was saying was that he sounded like he was answering a different question to the relatively simple one of this thread, and hence some fellas got a bit confused as to whether he was just putting forward his input, talking to someone else, posting in the wrong thread or whether he was spamming, trolling etc.

TexasToast712 wrote...

Next time I will just say Mattock. Lol

Hey, it's all good - just a bit of crossed wires

Modifié par JaegerBane, 14 décembre 2010 - 10:35 .

[RiouHotaru]

Viper, hands-down. Things like the Thresher Maw or Arnie (Human Reaper) I found myself struggling with the Mattock. It's ability to wreck armor IMO far outweighs the Mattock's "versatility".



Also, if you're worried about a mid-range weakness...use the Locust? I'm sort of amused that everyone forgets the best SMG in the game, which practically renders AR training on non-Soldier classes obsolete.

[JaegerBane]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Viper, hands-down. Things like the Thresher Maw or Arnie (Human Reaper) I found myself struggling with the Mattock. It's ability to wreck armor IMO far outweighs the Mattock's "versatility".

Also, if you're worried about a mid-range weakness...use the Locust? I'm sort of amused that everyone forgets the best SMG in the game, which practically renders AR training on non-Soldier classes obsolete.

This. Aside from soldiers, as effective as the Mattock is, I'm not sure it's so powerful that it's equal to using the the Viper *and* the Locust. The Locust's midrange performance outpaces every other automatic gun in the game - to the extent where landing 7-8 consectutive headshots is quite simple. It doesn't quite have the Mattock's DPS but it's certainly not so far behind that it will make a radical difference.

'Course, there's nothing stopping you from using the Mattock and Locust - but since their roles are extremely similar it means there's quite a bit of overlap between them. That overlap doesn't exist with the Viper/Locust combo.

Modifié par JaegerBane, 17 décembre 2010 - 08:49 .

[Leeroi]

This is quite an interesting video demonstrating what a Mattock Vanguard is capable of.

Mattock Vanguard

[Sailears]

^That's an impressive run.

[aeetos21]

Based in experience? When I first started playing ME2 I went "zomg!" mantis sucks where the hell is the viper! Oh it soooo coool! Ooo....



Then when I rolled an infi and saw the damage a widowmaker could reap I began rethinking the whole "mantis sucks! viper 4ever!" mentality. For any class that wants to engage enemies at long distances, take the mantis or widowmaker if available. It does more damage per shot and ends fights much more quickly which becomes important when fighting guns shipes, YMIRs, Krogans, and a dozen other armor toting enemies. Add in kestrel armor and a visor and you're talking one shot kills for many enemies on insanity.



However for VG's I wouldn't take any sniper rifle over the mattock. It's fast, it's accurate, easier to aim and shoot and run (works wonders on husks), and with a few well grouped headshots (no more than a double tap for each shot - spray and pray sucks for a gun like the mattock) and enemies get wasted quickly. The mattock is like one of those all in one special sorta things you see people advertising in infomercials - except this one actually delivers as advertised. The only two weapons I chose over it is the M-22 and M-12 when playing as a VG - and that's based entirely on situations.



So the viper? Error - does not compute!

[aeetos21]

Leeroi wrote...

This is quite an interesting video demonstrating what a Mattock Vanguard is capable of.

Mattock Vanguard

Holy duck ****! Why the hell am I giving my squaddies squad incendiary? Squad cryo I could see but - man this video makes a strong case for inferno rounds over squad incendiary. The mattock over shotty? I won't ever say an AR is better than a shotty (at least not moreso than my m-22 I just cant say it!) but it is more versatile and works at nearly all ranges.

Now as far as builds go... the guy was using area reave almost as much as charge and then had Samara using area lift - interesting combination and good CC. It's funny you think you have a good strategy down (I've gone through at least five different VG ones by now) and then someone gives you an example of one that might just be more suited for your playstyle. I wanna try it out =D

Edit: sorry for x2 post

Edit 2: Okay and he uses destroyer instead, and has miranda for increased weapon damade... okay. Now it makes a little more sense.

Modifié par aeetos21, 18 décembre 2010 - 06:03 .