Morroian wrote...
thebrah wrote...
"fight like a spartan". this could either mean you're a bureaucrat doing furious legal work for the chantry or a badass.SirOccam wrote...
Yes, what about them?thebrah wrote...
have you seen the dev interviews and how they're marketing the game?
So..........how is it actiony?
SirOccam wrote...
There's been tons of good news already.manik.half wrote...
the worst the game seems.
since the game has been announced it has been kick in the teeth, after kick in the teeth. almost like bioware went through the forums and made a point of writing down the bits the community loved the most from DA:O and removing them.
i implore you bioware, give us ONE bit of good news. just one, about the new game.
A story that isn't based on beating some big, bad, ancient evil.
A voiced protagonist
Flemeth returning (and not confirmed, but seems to be Kate Mulgrew returning as her voice)
Getting to see a new country
Greatly improved companion interaction (i.e., not having to play nice to all of them)
Ability to combine abilities not limited to mages
Nathaniel Howe likely to return
New and improved face morph system rebuilt from scratch
Custom rigs for different races and genders
And that's just for starters.
You claimed that making the game "actiony" was an example of them not taking risks, then later claimed that that the meaning of "actiony" should have been obvious. I disagree on both counts.thebrah wrote...
I never actually said this change was bad.SirOccam wrote...
Unless you take that to mean Hawke literally fights in the style of Spartan warriors, it pretty clearly just means you'll be in the thick of the action. It's meant to contrast with "think like a general." They're saying you make tactical decisions, but you're not removed from the battle like you'd expect a general to be. Seems pretty straightforward.thebrah wrote...
"fight like a spartan". this could either mean you're a bureaucrat doing furious legal work for the chantry or a badass.SirOccam wrote...
Yes, what about them?thebrah wrote...
have you seen the dev interviews and how they're marketing the game?
So "actiony" means you...fight? If that counts as playing it safe then I'm glad they did.
ok that's all well and fine but how would the spartan respond to a modern day civil case? would he fly off the bench but command like a general or bring nothing more than heated words, a speedo and rippling abs into the courtroom?thegreateski wrote...
Spartans would bring up any judicial cases with the King. The king judged matters of heiresses, adoptions and the public roads
"Ephors" and the "Gerousia" took care of Civil and criminal cases.
thebrah wrote...
Morroian wrote...
thebrah wrote...
http://www.slashfilm...es/300fight.jpgMorroian wrote...
So..........how is it actiony?
You're not answering, how is it actiony?
Davasar wrote...
A voiced protagonist
The way my character speaks and the way the voiced character does could be worlds apart. And what if I hate how the voice sounds? I prefer my imagination to fill in how my character speaks.
NvVanity wrote...
thebrah wrote...
Morroian wrote...
thebrah wrote...
http://www.slashfilm...es/300fight.jpgMorroian wrote...
So..........how is it actiony?
You're not answering, how is it actiony?
So we're basing that Dragon Age 2 is actiony based on the line "Fight like a Spartan" and you draw evidence from the film adaptation of a graphic novel that romanticizes the Battle of Thermopylae (sp?)?
Romanticize: Exaggerating to make it look awesome and appealing. Famous example is the poem "Paul Revere's Ride" which is actually very inaccurate.
groundbreaking games were games like deus ex. I go to bioware if I want a safe but really solid game and I go to other companies if I want an avant garde game. bioware doesn't innovate because it makes mainstream games.SirOccam wrote...
You claimed that making the game "actiony" was an example of them not taking risks, then later claimed that that the meaning of "actiony" should have been obvious. I disagree on both counts.thebrah wrote...
I never actually said this change was bad.SirOccam wrote...
Unless you take that to mean Hawke literally fights in the style of Spartan warriors, it pretty clearly just means you'll be in the thick of the action. It's meant to contrast with "think like a general." They're saying you make tactical decisions, but you're not removed from the battle like you'd expect a general to be. Seems pretty straightforward.thebrah wrote...
"fight like a spartan". this could either mean you're a bureaucrat doing furious legal work for the chantry or a badass.SirOccam wrote...
Yes, what about them?thebrah wrote...
have you seen the dev interviews and how they're marketing the game?
So "actiony" means you...fight? If that counts as playing it safe then I'm glad they did.
True, it would be "riskier" if they completely changed the genre of the game and you settled all differences peacefully through diplomacy and mediation, but come on...some changes are too outlandish to be even considered as possible changes that they just shied away from. They also didn't make your character an incorporeal, luminous spirit entity, but instead chose to go with that tired ol' "the main character has a physical body" thing. I mean seriously, when are they going to let that cliché go?
By this logic you could claim every game ever made wasn't risky because they didn't ____________ (and just fill in any insane thing you can think of).
NvVanity wrote...
True. Is that narrator a director who likes action sequences?
The same way he did to any other case. He would follow what their constitution said. That constituion being passed down orally and commited to memory.thebrah wrote...
ok that's all well and fine but how would the spartan respond to a modern day civil case? would he fly off the bench but command like a general or bring nothing more than heated words, a speedo and rippling abs into the courtroom?thegreateski wrote...
Spartans would bring up any judicial cases with the King. The king judged matters of heiresses, adoptions and the public roads
"Ephors" and the "Gerousia" took care of Civil and criminal cases.
Modifié par thegreateski, 10 août 2010 - 03:14 .
The Edge wrote...
NvVanity wrote...
True. Is that narrator a director who likes action sequences?
Who knows? Tis a mystery... for now!
are you sure they didn't have courtroom battles? what you're describing sounds really boring.thegreateski wrote...
The same way he did to any other case. He would follow what their constitution said. That constituion being passed down orally and commited to memory.thebrah wrote...
ok that's all well and fine but how would the spartan respond to a modern day civil case? would he fly off the bench but command like a general or bring nothing more than heated words, a speedo and rippling abs into the courtroom?thegreateski wrote...
Spartans would bring up any judicial cases with the King. The king judged matters of heiresses, adoptions and the public roads
"Ephors" and the "Gerousia" took care of Civil and criminal cases.
The Ephors were elected by popular vote. There were 5 of them and they ranked higher in Spartan society then the king. The Gerousia were old men over the age of 60, usually coming from a royal household.
None of them engaged in combat. The kings took care of that.
Welcome to politics.thebrah wrote...
are you sure they didn't have courtroom battles? what you're describing sounds really boring.thegreateski wrote...
The same way he did to any other case. He would follow what their constitution said. That constituion being passed down orally and commited to memory.thebrah wrote...
ok that's all well and fine but how would the spartan respond to a modern day civil case? would he fly off the bench but command like a general or bring nothing more than heated words, a speedo and rippling abs into the courtroom?thegreateski wrote...
Spartans would bring up any judicial cases with the King. The king judged matters of heiresses, adoptions and the public roads
"Ephors" and the "Gerousia" took care of Civil and criminal cases.
The Ephors were elected by popular vote. There were 5 of them and they ranked higher in Spartan society then the king. The Gerousia were old men over the age of 60, usually coming from a royal household.
None of them engaged in combat. The kings took care of that.
Can we even trust the narrator? I mean, the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.NvVanity wrote...
True. Is that narrator a director who likes action sequences?
There was fighting in Deus Ex as well, no? Doesn't that make it actiony, and therefore "safe?"thebrah wrote...
groundbreaking games were games like deus ex. I go to bioware if I want a safe but really solid game and I go to other companies if I want an avant garde game. bioware doesn't innovate because it makes mainstream games.
Nah I'm gonna assume at least once a spartan lost his head and tried to kill his opponent in the proceedings.thegreateski wrote...
Welcome to politics.thebrah wrote...
are you sure they didn't have courtroom battles? what you're describing sounds really boring.thegreateski wrote...
The same way he did to any other case. He would follow what their constitution said. That constituion being passed down orally and commited to memory.thebrah wrote...
ok that's all well and fine but how would the spartan respond to a modern day civil case? would he fly off the bench but command like a general or bring nothing more than heated words, a speedo and rippling abs into the courtroom?thegreateski wrote...
Spartans would bring up any judicial cases with the King. The king judged matters of heiresses, adoptions and the public roads
"Ephors" and the "Gerousia" took care of Civil and criminal cases.
The Ephors were elected by popular vote. There were 5 of them and they ranked higher in Spartan society then the king. The Gerousia were old men over the age of 60, usually coming from a royal household.
None of them engaged in combat. The kings took care of that.
deus ex is remembered for how its choices can largely alter the game. it innovated in one major area.SirOccam wrote...
There was fighting in Deus Ex as well, no? Doesn't that make it actiony, and therefore "safe?"thebrah wrote...
groundbreaking games were games like deus ex. I go to bioware if I want a safe but really solid game and I go to other companies if I want an avant garde game. bioware doesn't innovate because it makes mainstream games.
The voice they chose for the protagonist was kind of a cliché too, I thought.
Kaiser Shepard wrote...
Can we even trust the narrator? I mean, the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.NvVanity wrote...
True. Is that narrator a director who likes action sequences?
YES!!!NvVanity wrote...
The Edge wrote...
NvVanity wrote...
True. Is that narrator a director who likes action sequences?
Who knows? Tis a mystery... for now!
I hope he sounds like Morgan Freeman then.
thebrah wrote...
deus ex is remembered for how its choices can largely alter the game. it innovated in one major area.SirOccam wrote...
There was fighting in Deus Ex as well, no? Doesn't that make it actiony, and therefore "safe?"thebrah wrote...
groundbreaking games were games like deus ex. I go to bioware if I want a safe but really solid game and I go to other companies if I want an avant garde game. bioware doesn't innovate because it makes mainstream games.
The voice they chose for the protagonist was kind of a cliché too, I thought.
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