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[IMNWME]

just booted up my NG+ Insanity Shotgun Infiltrator for a quick run through the Collector platforms, and maybe it's been a while but they were really, really hard.  I dunno, I died a bunch, after an otherwise zero death run.  Mostly, it's the fact that you can't take cover anywhere once both Scions are circling you and Harby is up-close.

Anyways, not much point to this post, just that this section of the game gave me a pretty hard time outta nowhere... maybe I'm just bad at handling the Cloaked backstab, who knows.  I do know that missing with the GPS was generally what led to my demise.  Maybe if I hung back and just sniped, this section would've been easier, but where's the fun in that?

[termokanden]

Well it's a bad place for the shotgun. There is hardly any cover you CAN use except for the starting platform due to the 2 Scions. It's easy though if you hang back and snipe, I can guarantee you that.



You just have to make sure the Harbinger never gets close, even if it's tempting to snipe the weaker collectors first. Harbinger is the only one who can get to you behind cover and the only one who actually charges.



I never did figure out how to keep my team alive there though. They seem to die no matter what.

[OniGanon]

Just be sure to have Thane along and try not to leave yourself open to Scions. It's not that hard to shotgun through it.

[termokanden]

Surely you mean Miranda and Thane for maximum barrier removal. I still don't know how you keep them alive there on insanity. For me they would just die withing .5 seconds, no matter where I placed them.

[OniGanon]

I don't even place them at all. They place themselves on the starting platform and don't move the whole fight. Thane snipes the Scions down while I run around shotgunning things and holding everyone's attention for him.

[numotsbane]

the key is to take out the three collectors at the start really quickly. also, spam medigel - you don't really need it for the rest of the collector ship.

once your squadmates are dead, cloak allows you to reposition easily,

[Omicrone]

Warp explosions make this battle such a cheese. Strip the barrier of the middle Drone on the 1st platform, warp explode him. If you're doing an explosion with unstable warp, you're more than likely to knock both the other collectors off the platform. That leaves you enough time to deal with the 1st scion. Same procedure again as the collectors arrive again - except this time you'll have to get up close to finish off harbinger. It's pretty easy if you bring miranda and jacob along.

[Kacynski]

I found this fight easiest if you use a little bit of metagame knowledge:

Harbinger will appear either on the first or on the second platform (and again on the third one). You can quickly destroy the collectors on the first platform, then you will have harbing appear on the second one.

If you just delay the killing of the third collector on the first platform a little bit, that will let Harbinger appear. You can quickly get rid of him, since he is the only enemy at this point. In this case the second platform will not have Harbinger (if you are quick enough to kill all three collectors) - giving you a much easier time to deal with the two scions. You should be able to dispose both scions before the third platform arrives, which again puts you in a good position to deal with this last lot of enemies.

[ryoldschool]

I have seen averagegatsby and others clear this part without heavy weapons, but gatsby clears this with the engineer where he uses the avalanche is pretty cool. I try to clear without heavy weapons, but usually die a bunch of times - then I use the avalanche. Check out his video - harby posses a frozen drone any you can kick him off the platform - I have done this a few times and its fun.

[PsyrenY]

It's quite possible to do Infiltrator + Insanity + Shotgun + Collector Platforms. Check this video.



(It's not NG+ Insanity, but he does it without squadmates, so I'd say it evens out.)

[i love lamp x3]

my insanity runthrough was with a vanguard. i hated this part so much. but then after that the game starts to get really easy.

[ryoldschool]

Here is the link to the gatsby video

[MNeidig]

Did it as a Soldier. Miranda for her Warp to strip barriers, Mordin for his Incinerate to take out Harbinger and Scion armor.



Took me a couple of tries. Just had to tell Miranda's dumb ass and Mordin to get into cover a lot.

[IMNWME]

hmm. Lots of good advice here. Unfortunately, Collector Ship triggered without me even recruiting anybody post-Horizon (due to N7 missions and recruiting Kasumi/Zaeed). In hindsight, I should've brought Kasumi for Harbinger neutralization, but I ran Miranda/Grunt. Grunt somehow dies INSTANTLY as soon as the first platform lands because he eats the Scion's shockwave and concentrated fire from the 3 Collectors.



I beat it last night, but died like 7 times in a row (generally when the second platform lands and both Scions are circling my team). I'll try it a few times again, and see if I can find a better way to clear the platforms.

[IMNWME]

lol okay I just ran through it again with Miranda and Kasumi, and that place became a playground, srsly. Flashbang + Shadow Strike is crazy good against Collector Assassins/Harbinger.



Interesting note: you can get off two consecutive shots with the GPS during Cloak. Also, a Cloaked Charge shot does ridiculous damage to barriers. I swear I almost one-shot the Barrier off a Praetorian with a charged shot backstab.

[lazuli]

IMNWME wrote...

lol okay I just ran through it again with Miranda and Kasumi, and that place became a playground, srsly. Flashbang + Shadow Strike is crazy good against Collector Assassins/Harbinger.

I avoid taking Kasumi along for Horizon or the Collector Vessel.  She's dead weight against Praetorians.

[xlavaina]

I got so frustrated with this mission on insanity I basically just killed both scions at the same time and just nuked Harbinger on the last platform.

[IMNWME]

Praetorians are never really an issue with the Infiltrator, since they can't detect you while Cloaked. Harbinger, though, is always an ever-present threat, especially if he's pushing you out of cover while you're waiting for your health to regen. Kasumi completely neutralizes Harbinger, making Collector fights a ton easier, at least for me.

[numotsbane]

the worst thing as an infiltrator is the oculus... it knows where you are when you cloak. killed me so many times until I realised it wasn't just a one-off bug.

[PsyrenY]

numotsbane wrote...

the worst thing as an infiltrator is the oculus... it knows where you are when you cloak. killed me so many times until I realised it wasn't just a one-off bug.

It makes sense when you think about it - it can also detect the Normandy, which is how it got inside in the first place.

[OniGanon]

Don't fear Harbinger. The real threat in any Harbinger fight isn't Harbinger, it's the Collector Guardians. Learn to move around instead of staying in the same place, largely ignore Harbinger and kill all his friends. Then soften Harbinger up a bit and go show your contempt with your pistol, shotgun, or even your mighty elbow. It's very therapeutic I promise.

[Alamar2078]

I've got the Collector Ship coming up tonight. IIRC you're best off trying to clear the first batch of Collectors as quickly as you can. If Harby shows up but you still have distance concentrate on the other Collectors. If Harby is too close for comfort hit him hard. Even if Harby respawns you'll have some distance to play withl. Try to survive the 2nd wave of collectors & Harby ... leave the Scions alone.



To me the key is if you survive to this point you only have the 2 scions left. Whittle one down to a sliver of life but leave him alive. Then kill the other Scion. This will trigger the spawn of the 3rd collector platform. Now kill the first Scion that you left with a sliver of life. Now you only have to deal with 1 platform of Collectors ... Wake up any downed teammates with Medigel. Everything from here should be cake.