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[EccentricSage]

(I'm going to try to get a new scanner soon. The Christmas gift was a lie.)



I'd love a three hour limit on fan art... Enough of a limit to reign me in, but enough time to at least ink what I draw. I figure, as long as I don't draw porn, I can at least run off to my dad's to scan stuff. Gods... I really need to scan a lot of stuff. But sadly, some of it is porn.

[Remmirath]

Corker wrote...

Competition with Equal Turns

Time limit: 2 hours (or longer?) [ Fan artists, please chime in if this is still too short ]
 
Prompter does not have to provide a prize, but can if they want

Next prompt selected by one of the participants who has selected the fewest prompts so far

This one seems a good compromise to me, with the three-hour time limit.

[maradeux]

ICevoL wrote...

maradeux wrote...

I'm afraid that's a language problem again, because I don't really know how to explain it. What I mean is that these summaries are really great. It is - of course - a pleasure, but also "work" for the prompter to write them. If there is no competition, I am afraid that some entries might stay without any reaction in the thread. Hm... Can anybody understand what I mean?

I believe that I understand what you mean.  Your concern is that if there is no competition that the prompt selector will not provide feedback comments on all the entries, correct?

I can't speak for anyone else, but whether it's a competition or not wouldn't matter for me.  If I read a story or view a piece of art, I provide feedback for it.  We can still do the summaries, even without a competition aspect to the prompts.
 

That's what I meant, Icevol, Thank you. And that's how I would like to do it, too - summary without a "winner". Because it is such a difficult desicion.

So I would prefer this idea:

Corker wrote...

Competition with Equal Turns

Time limit: 2 hours (or longer?) [ Fan artists, please chime in if this is still too short ]
 
Prompter does not have to provide a prize, but can if they want

Next prompt selected by one of the participants who has selected the fewest prompts so far

Although I've never had a problem with the time limit (I won't have much more time and I rarely need more than 30 minutes for something I write), it's ok for me if the time limit is longer.

[Minaleth]

Time limit for fanarts - that's complicated to say. Generally any more time you give is better, but either way it won't let me produce serious stuff (takes 6hr +). For the sake of quality I'd be against any time limit, but on the other hand to keep it challenging, interesting and not time consuming 1hr or 2hr is good option.

I'll take part time to time regardless of the model you choose.



I'd also consider creating a special group for that since I doubt that activity really belongs here even if it's awesome.

[EccentricSage]

Personally, when I do get around to having a turn, I'd love to have the option of competition. But I agree, it shouldn't have to always be a competition. Maybe weather or not it's competitive should be left up to the Prompter? I mean, in the past, there have been prompt entries the entrants chose to not to enter in competition.



I think the variety from prompt to prompt would be fun.

[soignee]

dude seriously. I draw for a living. I am not spending 2 hours+ on something for a prompt. It's a no. I liked the hour aspect as it forced me practise and not procrastinate, same with writing (if the mood took, I mean.) Can it just be something we crack out when we get home from work/on a lunchbreak? I liked that aspect the most out of the prompt thing, not gonna lie.



Like some here, I am a half-assed prompt-taker-upper due to work and energy levels, so anything that requires me to contribute and Do Stuff weekly is a no.

[wildannie]

It's always been about the taking part rather than anything competitive for me but it would be fun to have occasional competitions too. 
I feel there's no need for a time limit on art unless it's a competition and if it was a competition I'd favour a 2hr or 3hr time limit, I do find 1hr to be short.
oh!, Happy New Year everyone!

[wildannie]

soignee wrote...

dude seriously. I draw for a living. I am not spending 2 hours+ on something for a prompt. It's a no. I liked the hour aspect as it forced me practise and not procrastinate, same with writing (if the mood took, I mean.) Can it just be something we crack out when we get home from work/on a lunchbreak? I liked that aspect the most out of the prompt thing, not gonna lie.

Like some here, I am a half-assed prompt-taker-upper due to work and energy levels, so anything that requires me to contribute and Do Stuff weekly is a no.

You could still keep it to an hour or less for yourself, the extra time is for those of us who find it hard to produce anything in an hour (that's me btw)

[Corker]

Prompt Survey Summary

Most people were fine with the old model.

There was a vocal objection to the "winner picks prompt" model.  Rotating rosters were not preferred as a solution, but an idea to select the next prompter from among the participants who hadn't gotten to do a prompt in a while seems to fix the problem and nobody's said anything bad about it.

Several people spoke in favor of extending the time limit from 1 hr to 2-3 hrs; most people don't seem to care and one person is strongly against.

The competitve aspect is attractive to many; nobody called it out as a minus (and entries can always be submitted non-competitively).

Prizes are lovely, although even in the past they have never been obligatory.

The tradition of the prompt sponsor providing feedback to all entrants was called out as a particular plus.

Requirements

The only hard and fast rule that needs to be in place is a method for determining the next prompter.  Shadow of Light Dragon's idea for picking from among the week's entrants - both competitive and non-competitive - with the lowest number of prompts to date makes a lot of sense.

I suggest that entrants are responsible for tracking the number of prompts they've given and including that number in their entry.  The prompter should not have to go combing through the thread index to determine who's done what.

Custom

Every prompt from the start has included the prompt theme and a time limit, along with whether or not a prize is offered (and if so, what sort).  To me, this says that these things have always been up to the prompter, although custom has put the time limit at an hour, and prizes are generally offered.

Non-competitive entries have always been welcome, although they aren't considered for the prize.  Now, they *will* be your "entry ticket" for the next prompt lotto.

Time Limits

This seems to be the remaining issue.  The idea was to make the prompt something fast and fun people could do, to encourage participation.  Participation has been on a downward trend anyway, with a fair number of non-competitive pieces most weeks.  I haven't combed through them, but I have a hunch a few will be late but most were over the time limit.

I would suggest that the customary time limit be raised to 2 or 3 hours (with the prompter always having the option to specify one higher or lower).  By way of experimentation, it'd be great if the submitters could include their working time, keeping in mind that they don't *have* to take all two or three hours. 

I suspect we'd see, within  a few weeks, if allowing a longer time limit is going to substantially privilege folks with more free time, open opportunities for artists in certain media and/or non-native speakers, or some of both.

I further move that...
...since he was so kind as to organize the Secret Santa, ICevoL should pick the next prompt tomorrow sometime.

[Remmirath]

I think all of that makes sense. That way we can always adjust the limit up or down if we need to. People certainly aren't under any obligation to take the full amount of time with the prompt - I don't expect to take more than an hour even if the option is there, for instance.

[ICevoL]

Thanks for the summary, Corker!  It was very helpful

As always, thanks to Minaleth for the banner!



Prompt: One of the reasons I first liked Zevran as a character was that his default tactics are set to defend the warden if he/she is being attacked.  So, the prompt for this week is Protective Zevran -- any aspect of Zevran being protective (in battle, verbally, etc.) is fair game.

Time Limit: No more than 3 hours

Deadline: Monday January 10th at 10:00 AM Eastern Time US.  Shortly after that time, I'll announce both the winner and the person who will select the next prompt from the list of participants (using the equal turns method detailed up-thread)

Prize: If you want me to write you something, I'll be happy to take a crack at it!

[Corker]

ICevoL wrote...

 So, the prompt for this week is Protective Zevran -- any aspect of Zevran being protective (in battle, verbally, etc.) is fair game.

O.O

This absolutely cannot be an entry, as it's been in-process for three weeks and isn't finished yet, but it's so *dead* on-topic that I don't feel bad about flogging it.

Over on the kmeme, somebody requested an AU where Arlathan never fell as the setting for an examination of the relationship between an elven Warden and human LI.  Well, it seemed to me that some of the party roles ought to be juggled in that situation, with the result being that I cast Zevran in the Alistair role.  Only my elven templars have a more organic relationship with mages - their duty is to protect and defend them, and put them down if they're possessed.

Upshot is, selfless protection of others - particularly mage f!Warden and Lanaya, who's his sister in this AU - is a huge defining characteristic of this alt!Zevran.

Dragon Age: Elvhenan, nsfw due to nekkid barbarian shenanigans, bad romance cliches, and the Dark Ritual.  Aside from the dubious nature of the DR, no content warnings.

[Creature 1]

Must try to write! Besides, I need more stuff for my AO3 profile that isn't M/M smut. XD (I swear I write other stuff, it's the truth. . .)

[jenovan]

Oooh, tasty prompt, ICevoL





For anyone keeping track (or needing a refresher), I finally updated the prompt listings on the first page. XD; I'm thinking (since they are so very extensive) of breaking the prompts out into their own post -- it'd be the 4th post on the page, and linked to from the main listing in the "worth of the thread" post. Any strong opinions for or against this?

[Sialater]

But... but... the next chapter of The Rescue is this prompt. *whimper*  Then there was the whole killing the slaver in Nevarra... and ... and.... 

Modifié par Sialater, 03 janvier 2011 - 05:22 .

[Corker]

ICevoL wrote...



Prompt: One of the reasons I first liked Zevran as a character was that his default tactics are set to defend the warden if he/she is being attacked.  So, the prompt for this week is Protective Zevran -- any aspect of Zevran being protective (in battle, verbally, etc.) is fair game.

An actual entry!

Desperate Haven
Prompt count: 2
Time: 12 minutes

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Author's Note: 
Honestly, the only times I notice those default protective tactics are when they are pissing me off. Like they do in this Chanter's Board quest. Every goddamn time.
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"What the hell, Zevran?" Lorelai Brosca glared at the elf, momentarily crushing his hand as Morrigan removed another arrow.

"My dear Warden, I heard you cry out. You were surrounded by hurlocks and -- "

"When I say, 'Get those archers,' Zev, I mean kill them. All of them. Right awaaAAY, Aeducan's balls, woman!"

"'Tis the venom that burns you. Hold still, the wound wants cleaning."

"Damn. What was I saying? Kill them. Yes. Not 'mark them lightly with your daggers and then let them continue to shoot arrows at me.'"

He looked down at the ground penitently. "I am sorry, my dear Warden. Next time, I will be sure to let you bleed out."

"Thank you. Much obliIIIGEd are we done here yet?"

Epilogue: In the battle for the Alienage, Lorelai would find herself surrounded by darkspawn and wonder where Alistair had gotten off to. He was hanging back, shooting arrows at things... as she'd commanded him to do before the gate broke.

[Minaleth]

ICevoL wrote...



Prompt: One of the reasons I first liked Zevran as a character was that his default tactics are set to defend the warden if he/she is being attacked.  So, the prompt for this week is Protective Zevran -- any aspect of Zevran being protective (in battle, verbally, etc.) is fair game.

Zevran to the rescue
Prompt count: 1
Time: 37 minutes
(cheated with screenshots)

Modifié par Minaleth, 03 janvier 2011 - 09:38 .

[ICevoL]

jenovan wrote...

Oooh, tasty prompt, ICevoL

Thanks!  Looks like there have already been "bites" on it -- yay!

jenovan wrote...

For anyone keeping track (or needing a refresher), I finally updated the prompt listings on the first page. XD; I'm thinking (since they are so very extensive) of breaking the prompts out into their own post -- it'd be the 4th post on the page, and linked to from the main listing in the "worth of the thread" post. Any strong opinions for or against this?

First of all, thank you for maintaining the listings!  You are awesome for doing it

Secondly, I think splitting it out is a fine idea.  Whatever works best or is easiest for you sounds good to me! *nods*

Sialater wrote...

But... but... the next chapter of The Rescue is this prompt. *whimper*  Then there was the whole killing the slaver in Nevarra... and ... and.... 

Sorry about that --  this seems to happen with my prompts (yeah, there's only been two, but I seem to be in a pattern of sorts...)

[frostajulie]

Corker wrote...

ICevoL wrote...



Prompt: One of the reasons I first liked Zevran as a character was that his default tactics are set to defend the warden if he/she is being attacked.  So, the prompt for this week is Protective Zevran -- any aspect of Zevran being protective (in battle, verbally, etc.) is fair game.

An actual entry!

Desperate Haven
Prompt count: 2
Time: 12 minutes

------------
Author's Note: 
Honestly, the only times I notice those default protective tactics are when they are pissing me off. Like they do in this Chanter's Board quest. Every goddamn time.
-------------

"What the hell, Zevran?" Lorelai Brosca glared at the elf, momentarily crushing his hand as Morrigan removed another arrow.

"My dear Warden, I heard you cry out. You were surrounded by hurlocks and -- "

"When I say, 'Get those archers,' Zev, I mean kill them. All of them. Right awaaAAY, Aeducan's balls, woman!"

"'Tis the venom that burns you. Hold still, the wound wants cleaning."

"Damn. What was I saying? Kill them. Yes. Not 'mark them lightly with your daggers and then let them continue to shoot arrows at me.'"

He looked down at the ground penitently. "I am sorry, my dear Warden. Next time, I will be sure to let you bleed out."

"Thank you. Much obliIIIGEd are we done here yet?"

Epilogue: In the battle for the Alienage, Lorelai would find herself surrounded by darkspawn and wonder where Alistair had gotten off to. He was hanging back, shooting arrows at things... as she'd commanded him to do before the gate broke.

I laughed so hard! I do that all the time becaus ays forget to reset tactics I totally feel your pain and can imagine this very scene with several characters!


And Minaleth that is a nice work of art there.

Modifié par frostajulie, 03 janvier 2011 - 11:20 .

[Sarah1281]

ICevoL wrote...


Prompt: One of the reasons I first liked Zevran as a character was that his default tactics are set to defend the warden if he/she is being attacked.  So, the prompt for this week is Protective Zevran -- any aspect of Zevran being protective (in battle, verbally, etc.) is fair game.

 
Rinna had always been able to take care of herself, of course. One didn’t make it to their double digits in their line of work without being reasonably self-sufficient, after all. Still, Rinna wasn’t exactly the run-of-the-mill recruit. No, she was special. Her movements were so graceful that she almost danced across the battlefield and there were times when Zevran realized that she was a lot closer than he had thought she was. Her eyes gleamed with justice and her targets never saw her coming.
 
That was why Zevran didn’t understand it, this strange need to protect Rinna. Rinna may not be as talented as he was – well, by his own admittedly biased estimation at any rate – but she was better than most and she’d never forgive him if she knew. Taliesin would never let him hear the end of it and who knew how the Crow Masters who hadn’t even let him keep an old pair of Dalish gloves would handle the news? Well, he would just keep this information to himself, for everyone’s sake…not to mention, of course, that he wouldn’t have even known how to express the sentiment even had there not been so many, many reasons not to.
 
There was just something about her, though…when he saw her standing there alone he wanted to hide her away from the rest of the world. When he saw her hurting he wanted to kill whoever had done that to her. When he saw her in trouble, he had to stop himself from running to her side and fighting with her. It was really a good thing that they hadn’t had any missions together because, despite how much he would enjoy their time together, he was afraid that this strange protective instinct would do something to jeopardize their goal or get one of them into trouble.
 
It wasn’t even just a matter of him wanting to make sure that nothing happened to someone important to him because he thought that Taliesin was probably more important to him than Rinna was and yet…He would be very upset if Taliesin died and would readily take the opportunity to avenge him if he could but he didn’t feel that same compulsion he did where Rinna was concerned. Taliesin was no better of an assassin than Rinna so what was the difference? Why did the thought of anything happening to her make him feel sick while the thought of something happening to Taliesin just filled him with a cold anger?
 
He would have to figure this out or otherwise get past it because this desire to protect Rinna wasn’t going to do anybody any good, not even her.
 

 
Caunira Surana could kill a man with a gesture from hundreds of feet away. She could take out a dozen darkspawn at a time and on the off-chance that she suffered a physical injury she could completely heal it in a matter of seconds. From what Wynne had said, Caunira was one of the top apprentices up at the Circle Tower and he could definitely see why. Caunira could take care of herself far better than Rinna ever could and he had no doubt that, if she so chose, she could kill him without so much as touching him. She had been the death of hundreds and would probably be the death of hundreds more before this Blight business was through.
 
That was why it didn’t make any sense. With Rinna, at least, he felt that if it came down to it he probably would be able to defend her better than she could defend him. With Caunira, it was just the opposite. So why…why did he want to try anyway? When he saw someone (usually a long-ranged fighter or another mage or emissary since close-quarters fighters didn’t often get close to her) going after her in a fight, he went after them without a second thought. If someone got close enough to attack her with a sword or a dagger then they were losing a head and if any of them actually managed to wound her…well, they usually ended up regretting that.
 
For all of that, though, he knew that it was absolutely unnecessary. She had been managing just fine even when it was just her, Alistair, Morrigan, and the dog and she would continue to manage fine even if…when the day came that they were no longer travelling together. More often than not, it was Caunira who was freezing an enemy that was about to land a blow on him. And as far as protection went, she was the one with the skills and the reputation to keep the Crows from coming after him while he could do nothing to stop the darkspawn or the humans from trying to kill her.
 
And yet…and yet it almost felt like Rinna all over again. He still wanted to hide her away so she wouldn’t get hurt, he still wanted to hurt whatever had hurt her, and he still wanted to run to her side and fight her enemies. Unlike with Rinna, however, he actually did. Unlike with Rinna, there were no Crows or unwritten rules holding him back.
 
Zevran still couldn’t figure it out and he was starting to doubt that he’d ever get past it but maybe…maybe that was okay. Caunira could take care of herself, after all, and he’d be there to try to protect her however he could regardless. He had to have learned something from that mess with Rinna and maybe that was what mistakes to avoid. Maybe this time, he could pull it off.
 
Maybe.
 
He had another chance now and it was all thanks to Caunira. He’d do whatever it took to keep her safe.

[Tellervo]

ICevoL wrote...




Prompt: One of the reasons I first liked Zevran as a character was that his default tactics are set to defend the warden if he/she is being attacked.  So, the prompt for this week is Protective Zevran -- any aspect of Zevran being protective (in battle, verbally, etc.) is fair game.

 

You didn't say who he had to be protective of...




”Where is he?”

Zevran looked up at Morrigan and took in the flush to her skin, the fire in her eyes, the tension in her stance—none of it at all sexual, indeed about as far as one could get. She looked ready to unmake the subject of her search with her dreadful magic, or perhaps transform into some beast to tear into them more viscerally. With a lazy blink and a half-smirk, clueless and careless, Zevran politely told her, “You must be more specific, my dear.”

“That damnable hound! I saw him over here earlier. We shall have more than words after what I found in my pack!” And Zevran suddenly found a slender hand shaking half a mangled rabbit in his face, unpleasantly close, and he couldn't help but wrinkle up his nose at the rank sack of fur.

“You are not taken with such gifts from an ardent admirer, my dear? Surely we can train the hound to fetch you baubles and jewelry instead, but everyone must start somewhere, yes?”

Morrigan's grip on the rabbit tightened until her knuckles turned white and fine bones in the abused corpse snapped audibly, stark contrast to her animalistic sound of frustration. “Utterly... useless!” As she stalked off, Zevran kept his expression carefully neutral, went back to tending the fire while Leliana and Wynne finished preparing the evening's meal.

Everyone looked up to watch her rage at the Warden over the mabari's behavior, shaking the dead rabbit at him in one hand and a ruined set of underthings covered in blood and dog slobber in the other. The Warden shrugged, of course, and everyone could hear Morrigan's colorful exclamation of rage.

Once Morrigan was back at her own fire angrily distracting herself with potion making and everyone was sated from dinner, Zevran brought the hound his scraps, as they had come to a silent agreement earlier when the hound ran off to hide.

“That was pretty good, but you must be more careful in the future, my friend. She will find you next time.” The mabari simply wagged his tail, dipping his snout as if in acknowledgment, before digging into the offered scraps.

Modifié par Tellervo, 05 janvier 2011 - 01:40 .

[jenovan]

*chases away crickets*  Fun variety of stuff so far!   I love when interpretations of a prompt go all over the place X3

@Corker, oh those damn tactics. XD I love how Zevran gets a shot in even while he's "apologizing".

@Mina, man that is crazy good, especially in 37 minutes!   I just love the sense of scale here...

@Sarah, aww... Sometimes the Warden is a second chance for Zev in more than one way, eh? :3

@Tell, Zev + dog is always gold XD  "Surely we can train the hound to fetch you baubles and jewelry instead, but everyone must start somewhere, yes?”  



And now for something completely different, a commission done by the loverly payroo!  It's a scene from a non-entry of mine from an older prompt.

Modifié par jenovan, 06 janvier 2011 - 04:00 .

[Corker]

@Minaleth - O.O  Is that an ogre-sized revenant?  Holy moly!  Good think Zev's on top of things!

@Sarah - It is kind of odd that he's so protective of the leader of Team Badass, isn't it?  If anybody can  handle themselves, it's usually the Warden.

@Tell - Agreeing with jenovan, Dog is always gold! 

@jenovan - Niiice.

[Creature 1]

jenovan wrote...

And now for something completely different, a commission done by the loverly payroo!  It's a scene from a non-entry of mine from an older prompt.

Wonderful work, very detailed. 

[Minaleth]

Corker wrote...
@Minaleth - O.O  Is that an ogre-sized revenant?  Holy moly!  Good think Zev's on top of things!

Yeah, they are not big enough in game me thinks :3 But Zev can handle that.

Nice stories everyone!