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[Kornichon]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I want to make one with:
Ceiling Zevran is watching you masturbate..

that....that make me think of that crap I did..... XD

[Tigress M]

ejoslin wrote...
Edit: About Alistair -- I don't think him pulling away is a bad thing.  As he was falling in love, he was totally lost in all the wonderful feelings that come with first love and living for the moment.  But after he falls in love, he has to face the fact that things are going to happen that are totally beyond his control, and that may cost him everything he holds dear.

Agreed.  I actually like how he stops obsessing about the relationship and just accepts it as part of his life, at least for awhile.  

But, I also like Zevran's internal struggle with his feelings.  I see Zevran trying desperately not to fall in love because he knows all about tragic endings.  And yet, he not only does fall in love, but he risks everything to be by the Warden's side.  (Please take my observations with a grain of salt, coming from a Zevran novice and all.)

@Verly - Nice Cousland you have there.  

@Kornichon - Oh!  That is great!  You really do a fantastic job of capturing facial expressions.  

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I have seriously got to hurry up and get to the good stuff with Deserae.  I'm gettin' tired of having to recycle Zev pics!  LOL

[ejoslin]

Tigress M wrote...

ejoslin wrote...
Edit: About Alistair -- I don't think him pulling away is a bad thing.  As he was falling in love, he was totally lost in all the wonderful feelings that come with first love and living for the moment.  But after he falls in love, he has to face the fact that things are going to happen that are totally beyond his control, and that may cost him everything he holds dear.

Agreed.  I actually like how he stops obsessing about the relationship and just accepts it as part of his life, at least for awhile.  

But, I also like Zevran's internal struggle with his feelings.  I see Zevran trying desperately not to fall in love because he knows all about tragic endings.  And yet, he not only does fall in love, but he risks everything to be by the Warden's side.  (Please take my observations with a grain of salt, coming from a Zevran novice and all.)

I agree about Zevran, fwiw.  After you kill Taliesen, he could get away from the Crows.  It's actually the one chance he has to be free -- the Crows will assume he's dead; staying with the warden and fighting the blight means the crows will learn he's still alive.  While he's willing to stay with a friend warden if asked, he actually would prefer his freedom and has to be talked into staying.  But he actually wants to stay if he's in a relationship -- if you leave it entirely up to him, he asks to stay and is heartbroken if you tell him it would be better if he left.

But I think he why he doesn't want to fall in love is more to do with how he was taught.  Love will get you killed, the only person you can count on is yourself, and he really survived by living for the moment, just enjoying whatever he could. (Then again, I have the unpopular belief that what Zevran didn't actually love Rinna, so, well, take my PoV for what it is).

Kornichon. Pervy Zev is pervy!  But they're gorgeous!  

Modifié par ejoslin, 04 février 2011 - 12:27 .

[ColaQueen]

We don't mind recycling, it's good for the environment and all that

[Creature 1]

ejoslin wrote...

I think Alistair's "Something you need, my dear," has a very deliberate effect -- and it's not the most positive.

If I call my husband while he's working on something he answers, "Yes, dear?" with this tone that's rather like Alistair's, and totally different from the way he usually answers ("What's up?").  It makes me want to kick puppies (I didn't mean to interrupt!  I'll call back later!).  So Alistair's response really annoys me.  Probably part of the reason I've romanced him once. 

[Tigress M]

ejoslin wrote...
But I think he why he doesn't want to fall in love is more to do with how he was taught.  Love will get you killed, the only person you can count on is yourself, and he really survived by living for the moment, just enjoying whatever he could. (Then again, I have the unpopular belief that what Zevran didn't actually love Rinna, so, well, take my PoV for what it is).

I think I we have the same thoughts here, just expressed differently. I was not meaning he knew about tragic endings from a personal standpoint, but just that he'd grown up in a life where love meant nothing compared to the knife at someone's throat or the politics involved.  

And I don't think he loved Rinna either.  I don't think he knew how.  I say this because when you ask him if he loves you he says he doesn't know because he's never felt this way before.  My one regret with his romance is that I didn't see the trigger for his change of heart.  What happened between him and Warden that caused him to lose his heart for the first time?  

With Alistair you get a hint of it in the fact that he will comment on being surprised that you actually listen to him.  So, you can see he's never had anyone who really cared about him and that makes his falling in love with the Warden much easier to understand.  

I realize Zevran would be more subtle in the revealing, and perhaps I've missed seeing the trigger.  *shrug*

EDIT:  @Creature - It doesn't grate on me that much... I just wish it was more tender like his earlier salutations were.  

Modifié par Tigress M, 04 février 2011 - 12:44 .

[Corker]

mousestalker wrote...



Prompt: Loyalty . Go wild! 

Not all loyalty is deserved...

Cruel to the End
40  min
Prompts: 2

"I'm hungry," Oghren announced, halting before the door of the Gnawed Noble Tavern.

"Thirsty, more like," Zevran observed dryly.

"Heh, that too," Oghren readily admitted.  "But I could go for a bowl of something hot.  Think Her Nibs can spare you long enough to eat?"

"Of course," Zevran replied, carefully light with his tone.  

Oghren rolled forward through the door.  "Ain't no 'of course' about it," he muttered as they seated themselves at a table.  He kept shooting furtive glances at Zevran from under his bushy red eyebrows until the assassin sighed.  "Do I have something in my teeth?  A burr in my hair?  What, Oghren?"

"Nothin'," the dwarf grunted, signalling one of the staff for two meals.  Then he sighed and pursed his lips.  "Probably ain't my place to say.  But you're all right.  Down in the Deep Roads, you look out for those you fight with, you know?  Yeah."  He leaned forward suddenly, head tilted up to look Zevran in the eye.  "Go.  Get gone.  Your Crow friends are dead and there's lots of ships in the harbor.  Just go and I'll handle Her Nibs."

"Because we fight together, you counsel me to cowardice?  I believe I should be insulted, Oghren."  Zevran smiled, but there was no warmth in it.

"That ain't it," the dwarf growled, "and you know it.  She don't treat you right."

"Your concern is touching," Zevran said flatly.  "But misplaced."  He summoned up a smile and a leer.  "Perhaps I prefer such treatment, no?"

The dwarf sat back abruptly, eyes uncertain.  "Then... I lost my appetite," he said, shaking his head.  He slid out of the booth and turned to the door, then stopped, his back to the elf.  "You're a demon in a fight, good scout, fast with a dirty joke," Oghren said quietly.  "Any unit above or below the Stone that didn't have rocks for brains would be happy to have you.  You got options.  Just sayin'."

"You are right," Zevran said coolly, and Oghren half-turned back to the table.  "It is not your place to say."

The dwarf's shoulders slumped.  Shaking his shaggy head, he stumped back out the door, into the marketplace.

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A/N: "Her Nibs" could be any Warden who abuses the romance/gift system to inspire undeserved loyalty from her followers, but I'll admit I had my Odessa Amell in mind for the role.  Which is why it's Oghren here, instead of Leliana (who would have handled the conversation much better), but who wasn't recruited. 

Corker: Zevran! Oghren!  Discuss feelings and emotional pain and stuff!
Zevran: ...
Oghren: ...
Corker:  ...Right, then.  >.<

[ejoslin]

Tigress M wrote...

ejoslin wrote...
But I think he why he doesn't want to fall in love is more to do with how he was taught.  Love will get you killed, the only person you can count on is yourself, and he really survived by living for the moment, just enjoying whatever he could. (Then again, I have the unpopular belief that what Zevran didn't actually love Rinna, so, well, take my PoV for what it is).

I think I we have the same thoughts here, just expressed differently. I was not meaning he knew about tragic endings from a personal standpoint, but just that he'd grown up in a life where love meant nothing compared to the knife at someone's throat or the politics involved.  

And I don't think he loved Rinna either.  I don't think he knew how.  I say this because when you ask him if he loves you he says he doesn't know because he's never felt this way before.  My one regret with his romance is that I didn't see the trigger for his change of heart.  What happened between him and Warden that caused him to lose his heart for the first time?  

With Alistair you get a hint of it in the fact that he will comment on being surprised that you actually listen to him.  So, you can see he's never had anyone who really cared about him and that makes his falling in love with the Warden much easier to understand.  

I realize Zevran would be more subtle in the revealing, and perhaps I've missed seeing the trigger.  *shrug*

EDIT:  @Creature - It doesn't grate on me that much... I just wish it was more tender like his earlier salutations were.  

The trigger is killing Taliesen.  It's more than a game mechanic, but unfortunately, the dialog there that reveals what exactly is going on has a very narrow approval range (between 26 interested and 70 care) and even if you fall in that approval, a dialog choice will make you skip over it as well.  

Though...  you know, I think I know what you mean.  It's not a trigger, but when Zevran tells you about Rinna, if you ask him why he's telling you, he'll say, "You've been a good friend to me, and more.  Far more than I deserve,"  if in a romance.  It's close to what he says to a friend, but I think it has more meaning to a lover as he will tell a lover about Rinna so much earlier.  With a friend, you have to have freed him from the crows to hear that.  As a lover, you just have to have him at "adore."  Once he's at that point, he cares deeply for the warden, and trusts the warden, more than he ever has for anyone.  I think it's the first time someone has just cared for him without an ulterior motive.

I think it's a little sad and very sweet how much sooner he does trust a lover.  He really does let his guard down easily if the romance is active.

Edit: One other point about Zevran, though -- I think this actually may happen earlier.  When you get to 26+, he has that conversation with the warden about the future and whether they're friends or, if the romance is active, if they are more.  He also wants to know if it's possible that after the blight, if there's a possibility that they'll stay together.  The warden can say they're friends with benefits, or can tell him that they'd like a future with him.

Modifié par ejoslin, 04 février 2011 - 02:18 .

[Mariefoxprice83]

I like Zev's shock when you give him the boots and the gloves and he has to be talked into accepting them. I had a really cool comment from him with the boots. "No-one has simply given me a gift before." This wasn't true when Erik gave him the boots, as it happened because he had already given him the Dalish gloves, the brandy and possibly a gold or silver bar - Zev is therefor a liar but still endearing. :-)

[ejoslin]

Mariefoxprice83 wrote...

I like Zev's shock when you give him the boots and the gloves and he has to be talked into accepting them. I had a really cool comment from him with the boots. "No-one has simply given me a gift before." This wasn't true when Erik gave him the boots, as it happened because he had already given him the Dalish gloves, the brandy and possibly a gold or silver bar - Zev is therefor a liar but still endearing. :-)

I don't think he's lying, really.  The game does assume that he'll get the gloves before the boots, but the point is that there's never been anyone who's just given him a gift, not wanting anything in return.  He's just never had anyone be nice to him before, unless they wanted something.

Modifié par ejoslin, 04 février 2011 - 02:20 .

[Mariefoxprice83]

That's true but it still amused me that he seemed to have forgotten the gifts I had already given him - I gave him both the boots and the gloves because I wanted to. I don't think I really "needed" to at that point because I had already given him the brandy to make him befriend Erik.

[Tigress M]

mousestalker wrote...



Prompt: Loyalty . Go wild! 

A Promise Kept

Time: 90 mins
Prompts: 0

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He knew it was a death sentence. He’d known it would be from the moment the words fell from her lips. No, that wasn’t true. He’d known for far longer than that… almost from the beginning.

“I go where you go.”

He’d known then where this road would lead. And he wouldn’t be anywhere else.

“I am yours.”

He was. He often wondered who had figured out the depth of his commitment first, her or him. They’d talked about it over the years, neither one remembering exactly when the reality of their relationship reached their consciousness, but never doubting it was real. All they knew was that under impossible circumstances they had met, and grown to… care for each other… love each other.

There was that word. The center of it all. It had taken him years to say it. She’d never pushed. Never asked. Never let on how much she’d longed to hear him say that one simple word. But he’d never forgotten the look in her eyes the night he had finally told her he loved her.

Hearing the horrible news, he’d torn into the birthing room, mindless of anyone and anything in his way as he raced towards her side. She’d been holding a bundle close to her breast, the tears flowing silently down her cheeks as she rocked the too still form in her arms. The look of despair on her face tore his heart and her words chilled his soul.

“I’ve failed. Her. You.”

“Shhhh,” he’d said, stroking her hair, matted with sweat from the ordeal. “You have not failed. It was simply not meant to be.”

Her body shook as her cries found a voice, great sobs escaping from her heaving shoulders. “You must hate me now!”

“No, my amora,” he’d replied, laying a tender kiss on her forehead. “I do not hate you, my dear Warden. My… my love for you has never been greater.”

He’d seen her eyes lock on his, disbelief mingled with pain. “L-love?”

He returned her stare, his own eyes glistening with unshed tears. “Did you ever doubt the depth of my feelings for you? They are no less simply because the Maker has chosen to take our daughter directly from your womb into his domain. I am a stubborn fool, this is true. But, surely you must know that I have loved you for years.”

He shook his head, brushing the memories away as he focused on the scene before him. He watched as the monsters laid their burden aside before kneeling down to drink from the grimy underground pool of stagnant water at their feet. She was still unconscious, thank the Maker. He was not sure he could follow through with this had she been awake – had he been forced to stare into her eyes.

He silently slipped his dagger out of its sheath as he made his way from behind the rock and into the shadows along the wall of the cave. His mind focused on one thing. The last promise he had made to this woman who had held his heart in her hands for so many years.

“I’m coming with you,” he’d said when he’d realized what was happening.

“No!” she’d replied, her eyes fierce with determination. “You have no need to sacrifice yourself in this manner! This is my burden. Mine alone.”

“I go where you go,” he’d replied, staring her down. “This has always been the way of us. It will not be any different now.”

And so, he’d followed her into the Deep Roads. They’d met much stronger resistance than the last time they had ventured down these dark, oppressive tunnels, proving the stories true about the Deep Roads being safer during a Blight. But, they’d fought fiercely, bravely, carving their way deeper and deeper into the filth the Darkspawn called home.

“Promise me one thing,” she’d said after their first night underground.

“Anything, my amora,” he’d replied, rubbing a salve into a wound she’d taken during the day’s fighting.

“Don’t,” she’d begun, her voice catching. She cleared her throat and turned towards him, grabbing his hand as her eyes pierced his soul. “Don’t let them take me. I… I don’t want to end up like –“

“I won’t,” he’d said, interrupting her. And taking her face in his hands he kissed her tenderly. “I promise.”

The Darkspawn were still inattentive, vying for a place at the pool, heedless of the shadow moving ever closer to their prize. That would change as soon as his deed was done. He had no illusions about what his future held. He did not care. By the Maker, just let him complete this final task.

A Hurlock on the edge of the group paused, sniffing the air. Zevran froze, less than an arm’s length from his target. But a Genlock, seeing his rival’s inattention, jostled the Hurlock even further away from the pool, instigating a fight between the two as the Hurlock took offense. Now was his chance. Perhaps the only one he’d have.

He raised his dagger high, tears streaming down his face as he plunged the knife deep into her breast. She gasped once, her eyes opening briefly, and he swore he saw a smile cross her lips before he felt claws grabbing him from behind.

He spun around, pulling his other dagger from its sheath, beginning his final dance.

“I am yours,” he whispered as he felt a maul slam into his chest, breaking his ribs. “I am yours.”

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Edited for minor formatting error.  One of these days I'll get it right the first time.  

Modifié par Tigress M, 04 février 2011 - 04:54 .

[Sialater]

Oh, hell, Tigress.



~wipes tears~

[Tigress M]

@Corker - Your story is heartbreakingly sad in its truth. I know from having played Zevran as a close friend for almost a year that he will stay by the Warden's side with nothing to gain by the act. Countless Zevran's have followed my Warden's clear through the Blight, even attending their weddings to Alistair in the end. Very touching.

@Ejoslin - I understand what you're saying. I guess my question is, what makes Zevran trust the Warden? I get that no one's ever been kind to him... just to be kind, but how does he know the Warden doesn't have an agenda? Especially that early on in the relationship?

I guess I would just like to see a little more of that trust build up, if that makes any sense. Maybe a confrontation from another party member where Zevran sees the Warden sticking up for him... I dunno.. it's hard to explain. LOL

@Sia  - Sowwy.  

Modifié par Tigress M, 04 février 2011 - 04:48 .

[ejoslin]

Tigress M wrote...

@Ejoslin - I understand what you're saying. I guess my question is, what makes Zevran trust the Warden? I get that no one's ever been kind to him... just to be kind, but how does he know the Warden doesn't have an agenda? Especially that early on in the relationship?

I guess I would just like to see a little more of that trust build up, if that makes any sense. Maybe a confrontation from another party member where Zevran sees the Warden sticking up for him... I dunno.. it's hard to explain. LOL

I think it's just that no one has ever been nice.  Perhaps the trust comes from not killing him to begin with and then instead of being all untrusting and nasty, asking him about himself, trying to learn what makes him tick.  

It's one of those circumstances where if you give the non-plot gifts, it seems weird I guess.  Though, there is the romance dialog where you ask him about his sexual history where he may tell you that he's on a new path and it's already been many new things.  Maybe that's it -- the warden is showing him a completely different way of living than he's ever known.

Edit: And GAH 

Modifié par ejoslin, 04 février 2011 - 04:56 .

[Tigress M]

ejoslin wrote...

I think it's just that no one has ever been nice.  Perhaps the trust comes from not killing him to begin with and then instead of being all untrusting and nasty, asking him about himself, trying to learn what makes him tick.  

It's one of those circumstances where if you give the non-plot gifts, it seems weird I guess.  Though, there is the romance dialog where you ask him about his sexual history where he may tell you that he's on a new path and it's already been many new things.  Maybe that's it -- the warden is showing him a completely different way of living than he's ever known.

That could be it.  We (at least I) tend to forget sometimes that DAO takes place over the course of a couple years.  Menaing there's plenty of time for Zevran to see how much different his Warden is, compared to those he's known in the past.  That makes a lot of sense, actually.  Thanks! :happy:

[ejoslin]

Tigress M wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

I think it's just that no one has ever been nice.  Perhaps the trust comes from not killing him to begin with and then instead of being all untrusting and nasty, asking him about himself, trying to learn what makes him tick.  

It's one of those circumstances where if you give the non-plot gifts, it seems weird I guess.  Though, there is the romance dialog where you ask him about his sexual history where he may tell you that he's on a new path and it's already been many new things.  Maybe that's it -- the warden is showing him a completely different way of living than he's ever known.

That could be it.  We (at least I) tend to forget sometimes that DAO takes place over the course of a couple years.  Menaing there's plenty of time for Zevran to see how much different his Warden is, compared to those he's known in the past.  That makes a lot of sense, actually.  Thanks! :happy:

Zevran was with the warden for less than a year -- he may say something after the landsmeet was called like "If a year ago blah blah blah, I would have slit his throat."  But it still should have some time.

Edit: *grin* Trying to leave out blatant spoilers

Modifié par ejoslin, 04 février 2011 - 05:03 .

[Tigress M]

@Ejoslin - Even still, a few months would give Zevran a little time to see someone acting in an entirely different way than he's used to, as you mentioned. (I forget canon isn't ZevASAP now that I get him so early LOL).

[ColaQueen]

I can finally contribute some Zevness to this thread, it's only vanillavren but ya know beggars and all that

First meeting



And of couse Alistair is not impressed

[Tigress M]

Great shots, especially coming from what? Taking a pic of your TV screen? I truly admire people who play on a console and still try to grab shots to share.

[techwench]

HOLY. BALLS. TIG! That made me cry.

[Mariefoxprice83]

I was tempted to upload a screenshot I have of that first scene with Zevran - it was with him lying down too! I went through my screenshots earlier and scrapped most of them (back of the PCs head, random NPCs) but I kept a few decent ones of both PCs I played throughout, as well as a few nice ones of Zev that may get uploaded in the near future. :-)

[Verly]

Tig's story made me cry too.

[ColaQueen]

Tigress M wrote...

Great shots, especially coming from what? Taking a pic of your TV screen? I truly admire people who play on a console and still try to grab shots to share.

Cheers! Luckily we have an HD big screen which makes playing any game a dream and means taking shots can happen when things stop long enough. Unfortunately it is usually during dialogue sceens and I keep my text on becuase I always forget what people have said before I make decision on how to answer lol. I also still get lines if the camera angle is a bit weird. My husband thinks I am mental for taking pics of the telly whilst playing a game. He's probably right.

And for all the Zev lovers because I am sure we are all beautiful and strong, exciting and dangerous and of course Zev fancies our Wardens

[Tigress M]

As I told Sia earlier... sowwy. If it's any consolation... it made me cry, too. I love both reading and writing tragedies, though I do try to add variety to my fanfic so as not to turn off those who don't happen to share my same tastes.