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ejo...that top was...er...yeah... lol

EDIT: aaw crap, now I have to find one...brb.

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techwench wrote...

ejo...that top was...er...yeah... lol

EDIT: aaw crap, now I have to find one...brb.

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When Zeravn ddid this to the broodmother on my game I was all !!!!!!  and wished to goodness there was a way I could have captured it on my Xbox.

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ejoslin wrote...

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Can I mention that in my current DA:O game I'm telling Zevran to leave after the encounter in denerim, for potential transfer reasons?


If done right, that actually is a very VERY sad and touching scene.  It can lead to the other public kiss, and you do get the feeling that things are not done between them.


Hmm.  I got no kiss.  Are we talking mods  here? 

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beggargirl wrote...

When Zeravn ddid this to the broodmother on my game I was all !!!!!!  and wished to goodness there was a way I could have captured it on my Xbox.

The first time he did that in my game, I thought it was awesome...but now he does that to me ALL THE TIME! He keeps stealing my deathblows! Punk. lol

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Zev got the kill shot in on the Broodmother in my game as well. He's so sexy when he fights.
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Love what Zev is wearing Tigress. What is it and where did you get it?..if you don't mind me asking.

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techwench wrote...
The first time he did that in my game, I thought it was awesome...but now he does that to me ALL THE TIME! He keeps stealing my deathblows! Punk. lol


My first playthrough Zevran was a peice of crap fighter, and I was glad I was a rogue, because it seemed silly that the only other rogues in game were useless.

My last playthrough his stats were so well placed (even though they were lower than mine), he was killing everything before I had a chance to even get to the enemies.  I had to resort to giving him crap weapons just so I had a chance to even get to the enemies to attempt to steal from them.

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beggargirl wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

beggargirl wrote...

Can I mention that in my current DA:O game I'm telling Zevran to leave after the encounter in denerim, for potential transfer reasons?


If done right, that actually is a very VERY sad and touching scene.  It can lead to the other public kiss, and you do get the feeling that things are not done between them.


Hmm.  I got no kiss.  Are we talking mods  here? 


No.  The romance has to be active, and you have to pick a particular conversation line.  It's pretty harsh, but it's one of two public kisses with him in the vanilla game.  You have to go down the conversation line, after he says he's free from the crows, "As long as no one tells them."  And go with it.

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janburg wrote...

Love what Zev is wearing Tigress. What is it and where did you get it?..if you don't mind me asking.

Armor of the Black Fox

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Thank you!

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beggargirl wrote...

My first playthrough Zevran was a peice of crap fighter, and I was glad I was a rogue, because it seemed silly that the only other rogues in game were useless.

My last playthrough his stats were so well placed (even though they were lower than mine), he was killing everything before I had a chance to even get to the enemies.  I had to resort to giving him crap weapons just so I had a chance to even get to the enemies to attempt to steal from them.

Yeah, default/autoleveled Zevran is craptastic. But with ZevranASAP and/or the respec module, he is a BAMF...that I have to periodically disable tactics on so I can get a deathblow in once in a while. :P

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ejoslin wrote...

beggargirl wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

beggargirl wrote...

Can I mention that in my current DA:O game I'm telling Zevran to leave after the encounter in denerim, for potential transfer reasons?


If done right, that actually is a very VERY sad and touching scene.  It can lead to the other public kiss, and you do get the feeling that things are not done between them.



No.  The romance has to be active, and you have to pick a particular conversation line.  It's pretty harsh, but it's one of two public kisses with him in the vanilla game.  You have to go down the conversation line, after he says he's free from the crows, "As long as no one tells them."  And go with it.



Awww!

Just did this.   [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/crying.png[/smilie]

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Hey, I just popped in to say thanks to ejoslin for the advice :) I managed to get Alistair to dump me so I didn't feel like a louse and Zev was straight in there ;)
I'm really pleased because he has always been in my top two or three characters in DA (along with Alistair..... hence the problem I have not romancing Alistair) I am really pleased that I finally have a warden who can appreciate Zev properly In future I will be sure to have my non nobles do this so Zev gets the loving he deserves :P
Anyway, thanks again (and to the other two who offered advice, don't know if they post here?) Might pop by more if that is OK? :)

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janburg wrote...

Love what Zev is wearing Tigress. What is it and where did you get it?..if you don't mind me asking.


It's Armor of the Black Fox. :)

Edit:  @Jenova - Welcome!  Come back and hang out with us any time!  Like you, I love Alistair and have only discovered the joy of Zevran in recent months, but now really like romancing them both and winding up with Zevran in the end.  

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Tigress M wrote...

janburg wrote...

Love what Zev is wearing Tigress. What is it and where did you get it?..if you don't mind me asking.


It's Armor of the Black Fox. :)

Edit:  @Jenova - Welcome!  Come back and hang out with us any time!  Like you, I love Alistair and have only discovered the joy of Zevran in recent months, but now really like romancing them both and winding up with Zevran in the end.  

Thank you :D I will do. 
I have always 'fancied', the idea of a Zev romance but could never resist Alistair, in future though I know what to do when I want some Zev love instead of Alistair.
Is the romance any different with a Dalish elf? Or is it all the same regardless? 

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Jenova65 wrote...

Hey, I just popped in to say thanks to ejoslin for the advice :) I managed to get Alistair to dump me so I didn't feel like a louse and Zev was straight in there ;)
I'm really pleased because he has always been in my top two or three characters in DA (along with Alistair..... hence the problem I have not romancing Alistair) I am really pleased that I finally have a warden who can appreciate Zev properly In future I will be sure to have my non nobles do this so Zev gets the loving he deserves :P
Anyway, thanks again (and to the other two who offered advice, don't know if they post here?) Might pop by more if that is OK? :)


You're welcome :D  I love talking about Zev :wub:  I probably go on a bit too much ;)

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More of N&A, if anyone is interested. Chapter Ten. I promise to bash out chapter eleven ASAP.

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Sharing some kissy kissy. lol Rodrick and Zev
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ejoslin wrote...

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Hey, I just popped in to say thanks to ejoslin for the advice :) I managed to get Alistair to dump me so I didn't feel like a louse and Zev was straight in there ;)
I'm really pleased because he has always been in my top two or three characters in DA (along with Alistair..... hence the problem I have not romancing Alistair) I am really pleased that I finally have a warden who can appreciate Zev properly In future I will be sure to have my non nobles do this so Zev gets the loving he deserves :P
Anyway, thanks again (and to the other two who offered advice, don't know if they post here?) Might pop by more if that is OK? :)


You're welcome :D  I love talking about Zev :wub:  I probably go on a bit too much ;)

No, not at all, I had abandoned that particular play through a week or so ago, because I had a bee in my bonnet about romancing Zev for a while and I just couldn't bring myself to do the whole 'try this and reload', with likely an hour to two hours gameplay because of 'doing it wrong', and rinsing and repeating til I got it right, iyswim? (OCD gamer, lol) 
I saw the Mad at Zev thread and felt the need to defend him (because he has always been one of my favourites) and when I saw the links in your sig, I thought it was serendipity :) 
I feel a bit swoony about him now :wub: I know it was just coincidence but after resolving the romance dialogue we pootled off to Redcliffe and when the Ogre there picked up my warden and started shaking her it was at that time that Zev jumped in. The ogre dropped her unharmed as Zev performed the 'slo mo' kill - it felt like he was protecting her........
I am definitely going to make a Dalish Elf just for him :wub: I might follow the advice for getting him sooner too :D I've always loved him but now have a renewed appreciation for him.

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Jenova65 wrote...

Is the romance any different with a Dalish elf? Or is it all the same regardless? 


I think a Dalish gets an extra (non-romance) line when discussing the Dalish with Zevran.  City Elf gets some LI-specific dialogue when s/he goes home... but I think that's bugged unless your LI is Alistair.  (But ejoslin's ZDF restores it, IIRC.)

From an RP perspective, though, I think it's potentially *very* different.  I made a Dalish to romance Zevran with, too, and... couldn't do it.  So don't make a Mahariel who's so hung up on "Live free or die" that s/he can't get past "I consider myself more Antivan than elven."  ;)

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Welcome, Jenova!  Great name. ;D

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I think a Dalish gets an extra (non-romance) line when discussing the Dalish with Zevran.  City Elf gets some LI-specific dialogue when s/he goes home... but I think that's bugged unless your LI is Alistair.  (But ejoslin's ZDF restores it, IIRC.)

It sure does.  I don't know what it is with a CEF, but the line I got in my recent re-run with my CEM is great. XD Roughly paraphrased:

CEM: The wedding never happened.
Zevran: Did she find out that you...

and then the rest of the conversation continues without getting into the details of that.  Oh man, it's not funny, but I laughed because it fit really well.  Thanks again (and always), ejo!  :wub:

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Corker wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...

Is the romance any different with a Dalish elf? Or is it all the same regardless? 


I think a Dalish gets an extra (non-romance) line when discussing the Dalish with Zevran.  City Elf gets some LI-specific dialogue when s/he goes home... but I think that's bugged unless your LI is Alistair.  (But ejoslin's ZDF restores it, IIRC.)

From an RP perspective, though, I think it's potentially *very* different.  I made a Dalish to romance Zevran with, too, and... couldn't do it.  So don't make a Mahariel who's so hung up on "Live free or die" that s/he can't get past "I consider myself more Antivan than elven."  ;)

Ah, lol, thanks :lol:
ETA - I play on 360 and PS3 my PC is not good enough to run DA (though I hope to get a better one this year some time, so will bear that in mind) :)

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jenovan wrote...

/delurks

Welcome, Jenova!  Great name. ;D

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I think a Dalish gets an extra (non-romance) line when discussing the Dalish with Zevran.  City Elf gets some LI-specific dialogue when s/he goes home... but I think that's bugged unless your LI is Alistair.  (But ejoslin's ZDF restores it, IIRC.)

It sure does.  I don't know what it is with a CEF, but the line I got in my recent re-run with my CEM is great. XD Roughly paraphrased:

CEM: The wedding never happened.
Zevran: Did she find out that you...

and then the rest of the conversation continues without getting into the details of that.  Oh man, it's not funny, but I laughed because it fit really well.  Thanks again (and always), ejo!  :wub:


ROFL :lol: Thanks, it is my username everywhere it is my gamertag too (that, or just Jenova where I can) Mine is from FFVII ofc, what about yours?  *is nosy about usernames....* 

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ROFL :lol: Thanks, it is my username everywhere it is my gamertag too (that, or just Jenova where I can) Mine is from FFVII ofc, what about yours?  *is nosy about usernames....*

Mine's from FFVII as well, and I'll also go for "Jenova" when it's available (very seldom on game sites ;).  "Jenovan", though, is an term our roleplaying group uses for people who have been experimented on using Jenova's cells, so the word has a meaning (to me, anyway). XD

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Ooh, on topic, and possibly hot-button.  I've seen a lot of dissing of Zev in the various DA2 threads.  One of the things that gets brought up against him as a male romance LI is that he will say, when asked about his sexual history (roughly paraphrased):
Given my druthers, I prefer a soft and shapely woman, but I know what I am.

His next sentence is something to the effect of, he won't let what society thinks dictate how he feels about people.

Some players have taken this line as belittling of a male Warden, i.e. "well, I like women but you'll do", especially since you can choose to have this conversation quite late in your relationship.  Others have argued that many bisexual people do have a preference, but that doesn't make their relationships with the non-preferred gender any less meaningful.

Discuss? :wizard:


My take: #1, I will say that I took that conversation as soon as it was available, because it seemed appropriate with my CEM, who had never been with a man before, himself.  So I didn't find it all *that* off-putting.  Besides that, the second half of the sentence kind of defuses the first, I think: I like women, but I like men too, I am aware of that and will not attempt to hide it.

Maybe more importantly, if you deepen the romance, and follow it through to the end, does it really matter?  If he's just helped you kill his former lover/best friend (who is, by the way, a man), and tried really hard to confess his love for you, and given you a token, can you not accept that he cares for you as you are, regardless of your gender?

And a sort of technical aside: I think, kind of like having the post-tent talk after you hit Love, this conversation as written may simply not fit right later in the relationship.  Or at least, Zevran's responses might not.  He's honest but not tactless, and when at Adore with someone, saying that you prefer the other gender seems a bit... iffy. :P
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Okay, news from the DA2 forums (again).
Apparently someone managed to get a Zev screenshot of how he looks in DA2.
It's in the 'super heavy spoiler' thread.. if anyone is interested (and doesn't want to read/see other spoilers) I can post a link/pm the picture.
To give some info, it looks definitely like Zevran, but I don't know.. I don't like his new looks (damn the new art style). x.x