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Haven't really been lurking lately, but I did skim my way through the pages I've missed. DA2 has fallen completely off my radar and I may end up previewing it with someone else's copy but I won't be buying it.

I still haven't even touched Leliana's DLC, finding out that Zevran absolutely isn't going to get one makes me glad I saved my hard drive space. Zev's been left to the fans, canon couldn't give a damn.

Still can't write; IO takes far more brain power than I currently have, and S&S takes (TMI time) some form of interest in smut. Right now I have neither, being far too sick and drained and brainfoggy.

I miss writing though. ._.

maradeux wrote...
But back to page 3... ;)

Aroihkin wrote...

I plan to continue someday, yes. Glad you liked what was up so far, anyway.

It has too much sequential plot for me to currently handle. Actually, scratch that, it had too much sequential plot for me to handle when I was writing non-sequential plot a month ago, which is easier than sequential.

Right now I'm lucky if I can hammer out a one-paragraph RP pose here and there. (...)  Incurably ill Aro is incurably ill, etc etc.


I don't know which kind of desease you have, but that does not sound good. :( Is there any hope that it can get better?

If you can't continue your stories, of course I would understand it. Thank you for everything you have done so far. :) I like your very special Warden Alleyana. Your own health condition might be one of the reasons that your discriptions of injury and pain are so plausible and gripping. In your story you show how Zevran helps Alleyana with the right touches on the right places to feel a bit better. This I found very affecting, it was another side of Zevran and I like it very much.

I also like this picture by sixthdeadlysin to your story. :)

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I will be sick until it kills me, I essentially have the RL version of the Darkspawn Taint. I even get greyed skin and lesions. It'll probably kill me in less than thirty years as well. But I do have better days than I've had lately, and there are always degrees of suck.

Alleyana as a character is about fifteen years old, and has almost always been written with some form of disability, handicap, or other physical disadvantage. Discovering my condition made trotting her back out into fanfic as the main OC (for the first time, she's usually support role) an interesting experience, but yeah. :3

I've always taken more inspiration for Alley in the creative injuries I've had, tended on others, etc. Though writing about the Taint obviously adds a link to the illnesses I have, I don't project my crap onto her except where it's relevant.

I try to write what I know and research thoroughly what I don't.

Also, going back to the old discussion, I see both Alleyana and Tannusen sticking with Zevran until death, for different reasons and in different ways. I already know how Alley dies (and no, not the deep roads) eventually, and I have suspicions how Tannusen will someday go out. Alley's is going to be pretty sad if I ever write it.

...Yeah, I'm a downer, lol. All the more reason I don't say much lately; nothing to contribute but angst. I can't even play DA right now due to hard drive space issues.

If I can un-suck enough to write again soonish, I may trot Alleyana around the k!meme too, just to break some brains. XD I owe different anons a lot of Tannusen fills, too...

Edit: And yeah, she spoils me with art. :wub: Amorius drew me an Alley as well, and Sixthdeadlysin also drew Tannusen for me from my other DA series.

All the more reason I really want to go back to writing. Anything that inspires other people to do creative things is worth doing, and it's not at all out of a lack of wishing to write that I've been silent lately.

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Aro!<3
*hugs*

...you know, speaking of your writings inspiring art, I have had this image of Tannusen and Greagoir (scene from The Opposite of Two) in my head for the longest time... would you mind if I drew it? :wizard:

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I feel like I was in the movie "While You Were Sleeping" - this thread has always been exploding when it is between 1 and 6 a.m. in my region. :P

(Nonvita) 2. the only companions who got their own DLC are the male love interests (I know Lel is bi, and that Zev could qualify as a male love interest also, but speaking for the majority, Morri and Lel are the male love interests), once again hinting that the male demographic is more important than the female.


This is exactly what annoys me, too. It is once again only for (straight) males. Just like this stupid DA2 trailer. It seems to me as if female fans are simply ignored by the game companies.

(Halae Dral ) I'm also pretty non-plussed about getting all-new companions again. Even if you could just take the old ones along and they didn't have anything new to say, I'd still prefer it.


I agree completely...

(Hilde) I pmd David Gaider about the thread and he put this in his reply. More consolation I hope...

" Truth be told, I'd do a Zevran-focused DLC if I could.."


*sniff* :(

(TanithAeyrs) The Zev thread has provided so much inspiration I think we as FF writers and artists all deserve our own endings.

Also, this means you can keep Zev for ever and ever (you just have to share him with the rest of us).


I guess, I could live with that. And Zevran would agree, I'm sure. :innocent:

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competition-entries...

@Tellervo "For a moment, he's jealous." - Me, too... so well written. I love your poetic flow of words. It's pure s*x :wub:

@Payroo - just HOT :D But I would like to see this NSFW-version, too. :devil:

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@Aroihkin - thank you so much for your long, detailed reply. Since "get well soon" does not seem to fit quite well to your condition, I just hope you will soon have some "better days". :(

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no Zev-DLC.... I'm so pissed :crying:
going to mess to Antiva is just a great door to get a lot of fun and excitings adventures!
or to know Zev's past with Rinna don't bother me.......
I want to know so moaaaar about him!

haaaa ****ing EA and money reign

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payroo wrote...
Aro!<3
*hugs*

...you know, speaking of your writings inspiring art, I have had this image of Tannusen and Greagoir (scene from The Opposite of Two) in my head for the longest time... would you mind if I drew it? :wizard:


Mind? Mind? Are you serious? If I had money I'd have comissioned you by now. XD

Draw away! I <3<3<3 arts.


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@Aroihkin - thank you so much for your long, detailed reply. Since "get well soon" does not seem to fit quite well to your condition, I just hope you will soon have some "better days". :(


That works well. Like I said, there's degrees of suck, it's just been a really bad few months. Every time I start to claw back out of it, RL has been dumping more stress onto me and pushing me back under.

I'll be back to writing as soon as able, though S&S is a million times easier to write, so IO will still be on the back burner until I can figure out how to handle it or can cope with sequential plot.

I'd like to get back to doing fanart at some point, too, Zevran is just too damn awesome by far.

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No Zevran DLC? I'm disappoint. :-(

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Epantiras wrote...

No Zevran DLC? I'm disappoint. :-(


I'm holding out faint hope that Zev will be one of the companions this time around. If not, well, that's seven more bucks that'll go to entertainment I'm convinced I'll get more out of.

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Suzene wrote...

Epantiras wrote...

No Zevran DLC? I'm disappoint. :-(


I'm holding out faint hope that Zev will be one of the companions this time around. If not, well, that's seven more bucks that'll go to entertainment I'm convinced I'll get more out of.


Like buying some grass seeds and watching them grow? XD Yeah...

I have no reason to invest any interest in their characters at this point (who I'm not already invested in), because they as a company have certainly shown no interest in them.

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So... A Murder of Crows (potential return to Antiva DLC).  Minibosses would all be Crow Masters, obvs; probably one's an apostate to mix things up.  Big boss would be the leader of the Crows.  Main quest line - take them all out.  Probably a few related steps where you have to find information to find where they are before you can do that; possibly you have to run some errands (sigh) for Interested Parties or you just faff around Antiva looking for clues to click on before the right door unlocks. 

The Big Choice seems to be who stays in Antiva, who goes back to Ferelden (or elsewhere) and what do they do?  To that end, I think there ought to be some miniquests and, depending on the choices you make there, it influences Zevran's desire to stay in Antiva and/or take up the reigns of the Crows.  Because it's kind of weaksauce and also creepy to just let the Warden automatically persuade him to do whatever the Warden wants.

(Weaksauce is apparently my word for the week. :wizard:)

I think the politics will enter into it by having more Crow Masters around than need killing.  You wheel and deal with your allies to figure out which ones need killing, which ones maybe need killing but maybe are more useful alive, and which are definitely better left alive.  Three potential minibosses, kill any two, gives three obvious possible outcomes (although that could be made more or less complicated by other choices).  Four minibosses, kill any two, gives... six, if I'm counting right.  That's some work to make good outcomes, storywise, for all six but it's not impossible.

What other side quests should there be?

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Something Chantry/Andraste related. How the rest of Thedas views the religion is a lot different to Ferelden, really.

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Corker wrote...

So... A Murder of Crows (potential return to Antiva DLC).  Minibosses would all be Crow Masters, obvs; probably one's an apostate to mix things up.  Big boss would be the leader of the Crows.  Main quest line - take them all out.  Probably a few related steps where you have to find information to find where they are before you can do that; possibly you have to run some errands (sigh) for Interested Parties or you just faff around Antiva looking for clues to click on before the right door unlocks. 

The Big Choice seems to be who stays in Antiva, who goes back to Ferelden (or elsewhere) and what do they do?  To that end, I think there ought to be some miniquests and, depending on the choices you make there, it influences Zevran's desire to stay in Antiva and/or take up the reigns of the Crows.  Because it's kind of weaksauce and also creepy to just let the Warden automatically persuade him to do whatever the Warden wants.

(Weaksauce is apparently my word for the week. :wizard:)

I think the politics will enter into it by having more Crow Masters around than need killing.  You wheel and deal with your allies to figure out which ones need killing, which ones maybe need killing but maybe are more useful alive, and which are definitely better left alive.  Three potential minibosses, kill any two, gives three obvious possible outcomes (although that could be made more or less complicated by other choices).  Four minibosses, kill any two, gives... six, if I'm counting right.  That's some work to make good outcomes, storywise, for all six but it's not impossible.

What other side quests should there be?


Corker, I WANT TO HAVE THAT! - not as DLC, but as expansion! Who starts writing the script? :innocent:

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I'm seriously considering giving it a go, maradeux. I've been running tabletop RPGs for seventeen years and writing my own adventures the whole time. My personal preferences run to political/intrigue/relationship games. This is right up my alley, honestly.



Not that I have the toolset skills for it. But I can pull together the module.

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Corker wrote...

I'm seriously considering giving it a go, maradeux. I've been running tabletop RPGs for seventeen years and writing my own adventures the whole time. My personal preferences run to political/intrigue/relationship games. This is right up my alley, honestly.

Not that I have the toolset skills for it. But I can pull together the module.


I'm sure, you will find some help! :happy: Charsen? Ejoslin? Whre are you all? *look around* (unfortunatly my own pc is too weak for the toolset. Installed it once and it nearly killed my pc... :?)

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Corker wrote...

I'm seriously considering giving it a go, maradeux. I've been running tabletop RPGs for seventeen years and writing my own adventures the whole time. My personal preferences run to political/intrigue/relationship games. This is right up my alley, honestly.

Not that I have the toolset skills for it. But I can pull together the module.


it will take months to make =/ in all honesty. I've only seen toolset from me poking it, but casually watching my internet babbydaddy make his mods and the work that goes into it for like, 10 seconds of gaming is insane.

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So, "Choose Your Own Adventure" webpages instead. *shrug* Makes the fight scenes easier.

"You win."

"But... but... shouldn't there be some tension, or..."

"If you died, you'd reload and do it again."

"Oh. Yeah."

ETA: Is it as bad for the non-cinematics as the cinematics?  If it were mostly combat and dialogue without too many cutscenes, how bad would that be?

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the more people on the project that have specific jobs to do, the easier it will be:

*modelmakers
*someone good with sound/willing to act out the parts.
*animators
*code monkies for data entry/flags
*writers/art direction

One person doing an entire DLC quality, full length project? That's a lot of man hours.

The creative side is will also take longer then you think, also. I was working on a Missa mod (lol shut up) and writing in this style:

Missa is standing on top of a roof looking down at the Warden at their party. The camera pans to see her smiling, observing them rather smugly.

Missa:

Look at this, boys. Look what blew into Dust Town.  Rather loudly, in fact. Tell me, do the Grey Wardens do subtle, or is that just you?

Warden:

1a) How do you know I’m a Warden?
1b) I don’t answer questions from rude strangers.
(If pc is a dwarf) 1c) I don’t answer questions from dusters.
1d) Just me. What can I say? I like to make an entrance.

Missa:

(said in a“are you really that stupid?” tone) 1a) Please. The entire city knows you’re here, not just Dust Town. I’m sure the Shaperate has already recorded what you’ve had for lunch and where you’ve been.
1b) Skips to dialogue tree 2
1c) Skips to dialogue tree 2
1d) Well, you’ve certainly done that. The entire city knows you’re here, not just Dust Town. I’m sure the Shaperate has already recorded what you’ve have for lunch and where you’ve been.

(sarcastic) 2) Oh, how rude of me! Allow me to introduce myself. Name’s Missa, by the way. Heard you’re looking for Jarvia. As luck would have it, so am I.


....IS ANNOYING and takes forever.

If you're still seriously thinking about it, if you say "I've written the script anyone want to code it?" in the toolset forums might get you somewhere. But the I HAZ AN IDEA is the easy part, if you see what I mean. Finding the codemonkies who are enthusiastic about it also will be hard.

I'm hoping this isn't coming across as LOL I WILL PIDDLE ON YOUR FIRE KAY but Toolset shenanigans are awkward and time consuming, and finding the people willing to do that without a money incentive is hard.

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(I'm afraid thare are too few people in the other forum, so I ask my question here, too)

I need the name of the Antivan currency. I remember one banter between
Zevran and Alistair about the estimated payment for his death - but I
don't have the toolset - could someone look and find out, please? :blush:

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soignee wrote...

If you're still seriously thinking about it, if you say "I've written the script anyone want to code it?" in the toolset forums might get you somewhere. But the I HAZ AN IDEA is the easy part, if you see what I mean. Finding the codemonkies who are enthusiastic about it also will be hard.


Totally understood.  I've been on too many collaborations that fell apart after the inital OH WOW phase.

I'm hoping this isn't coming across as LOL I WILL PIDDLE ON YOUR FIRE KAY but Toolset shenanigans are awkward and time consuming, and finding the people willing to do that without a money incentive is hard.


:D  No problem.  If toolset were simple, I'd have learned it myself by now.  My crowning achievement so far has been to get a blank face open and fiddle with the sliders a bit.  :unsure:

Honestly, I like writing game modules.  The adventure concept has been niggling at me for some time now, and I may as well give it a go.  It would undoubtedly be shinier and more fun to experience as an actual game, but hopefully there will something of interest even if there isn't.

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Corker wrote...

I'm seriously considering giving it a go, maradeux. I've been running tabletop RPGs for seventeen years and writing my own adventures the whole time. My personal preferences run to political/intrigue/relationship games. This is right up my alley, honestly.

Not that I have the toolset skills for it. But I can pull together the module.



I have been playing with the toolset for a while, not cutscenes but other aspects like characters, morphs, etc. My husband has created cities for the NWN toolset and has been helping me figure that out so if you do go that route, or any other for that matter, I would be super happy to help in any way possible.

And while I am at it I may as well pimp out my husbands graphic design services, limited however because work is amping up for him...Image IPB

More Zevran.....Image IPB

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maradeux wrote...

(I'm afraid thare are too few people in the other forum, so I ask my question here, too)

I need the name of the Antivan currency. I remember one banter between
Zevran and Alistair about the estimated payment for his death - but I
don't have the toolset - could someone look and find out, please? :blush:


Andris!

LOL Ali/Zev banter, it is so lulzy.

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Thank you, soignee! <3 Yes, that's the banter, I meant. Love it! :D

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Corker: I've been mulling over this since I proposed my "final expansion" idea. If you need a dialogue writer (I'd be willing to submit to someone as primary writer just so the damn thing gets made) I'd be more than happy to toss in for a mod. I don't have enough time to really learn the toolset because it won't work on my netbook, but I've done a little fiddling and I could, as someone else has offered, help out with morphs and the like.



I would love a modded Antiva expansion, and not even just for the Zev. I want some roguish nonsense.

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More Zevran, good idea, I'm not sure if there's anything I'd be able to do to help but I'd certainly be willing to try. I've not tried to master the toolset yet so I'm no doubt way behind you guys in usefulness.



The toolset (and mods) was the main reason i put myself in debt to get my shiney new pc so I should at least try...

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Corker wrote...

So... A Murder of Crows (potential return to Antiva DLC).  Minibosses would all be Crow Masters, obvs; probably one's an apostate to mix things up.  Big boss would be the leader of the Crows.  Main quest line - take them all out.  Probably a few related steps where you have to find information to find where they are before you can do that; possibly you have to run some errands (sigh) for Interested Parties or you just faff around Antiva looking for clues to click on before the right door unlocks. 

The Big Choice seems to be who stays in Antiva, who goes back to Ferelden (or elsewhere) and what do they do?  To that end, I think there ought to be some miniquests and, depending on the choices you make there, it influences Zevran's desire to stay in Antiva and/or take up the reigns of the Crows.  Because it's kind of weaksauce and also creepy to just let the Warden automatically persuade him to do whatever the Warden wants.

(Weaksauce is apparently my word for the week. :wizard:)

I think the politics will enter into it by having more Crow Masters around than need killing.  You wheel and deal with your allies to figure out which ones need killing, which ones maybe need killing but maybe are more useful alive, and which are definitely better left alive.  Three potential minibosses, kill any two, gives three obvious possible outcomes (although that could be made more or less complicated by other choices).  Four minibosses, kill any two, gives... six, if I'm counting right.  That's some work to make good outcomes, storywise, for all six but it's not impossible.

What other side quests should there be?

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THIS in any form, mod ,written , whatever works.  I have a bit of the Crow politics planned for my fic but this sounds great.  Would be glad to help but I don't have any toolset skills (and I'm not sure my P4 could handle the toolset anyway).  If enough interest is generated to try a mod I would be glad to do some writing.

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More entries - sweet!  Feedback time Image IPB

@soignee - *sniffles* that drawing of Zevran's mom is poignant and lovely.

@Tellervo - this was sensual and almost hypnotic. very nice!

payroo wrote...

Here's my (brainless) go at the leather prompt...


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I was just thinking how fortunate we are in the Dragon Age fandom to have a fantasy assassin who does not fit into the "draco in leather pants" trope (since that's the first thing, unfortunately enough, that comes into my mind when I think of leather. actually it's the second thing but the first thing is NSFW inappropriate :pinched:)

Dayum!!! Pardon me while I mop up the puddle of drool on my desk *grabs a towel*. Holy frijoles, this is hot! Image IPB

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@ICevol: Hehehe... that was simultaneous adorable and sexy. :wub: A-am I the only one hoping for a sequel/epilogue now?? *bricked*


Your wish is my command *bows* -- it's the least I can do, given how much enjoyment I get from the art you share with all of us (Disclaimer: If I'd had more than an hour, the first part would have gone full-on smutty anyway Image IPB)

*opens up MS word to start*

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