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Congrats Frostajulie :D

Give me a bit to come up with a prompt. (I'll have to go over the list of previous ones. :D )

Here's a sexy Vey and Zev kiss in the meantime. :D

(I masked the dwarven boobies with happy faces..hopefully that's sfw enough. lol

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Prompt: "What would Zevran say... I think you know." 

This is what Morrigan says during her dark ritual offer.  When she gives your Warden reasons why he/she should take her offer this is one of the things she mentions.   What would Zev say if your Warden could ask him?
Time Limit: 3 hours
Deadline: Tuesday midnight (EST)  April 19th
Prize:  Give me any screenshot from your game and I'll do a Artrage outline (possible colored)  sfw or nsfw i don't care.

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Verly wrote...

Here's a sexy Vey and Zev kiss in the meantime. :D

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*sob* why, oh why can I not mod my Zev like this! Curse you PS3

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Congrats, frostajulie! :D

Hmm, interesting new prompt... that once again wanders directly into territory I mean to cover later XD May have to sit this one out, but looking forward to the entries X3

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Verly wrote...



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Prompt: "What would Zevran say... I think you know." 

This is what Morrigan says during her dark ritual offer.  When she gives your Warden reasons why he/she should take her offer this is one of the things she mentions.   What would Zev say if your Warden could ask him?
Time Limit: 3 hours
Deadline: Tuesday midnight (EST)  April 19th
Prize:  Give me any screenshot from your game and I'll do a Artrage outline (possible colored)  sfw or nsfw i don't care.


All my Wardens save one either accepted the DR without much thought or rejected it out of hand.  (The exception was an Ali-mancing Cousland who'd have no reason to talk it over with Zevran.)  However, at least one felt awful about it afterwards, and I could see her rehashing the decision with Zev.

Still Life with Woodpecker
(So titled because it immediately follows Even Cowgirls Get the Blues, a nsfw fill on the kink meme, and my title-maker is broken today)
Time: 45 min
Prompts: 3

They’d made up, finally, this eve of the great battle. The pain in her earlobe had dwindled to a dull thobbing, a minor nuisance compared to the joy of hearing him admit his affection. Obliquely, of course, but still.

There was another shadow over Kallian’s heart. “I’m such a coward, Zev.” She admitted it aloud, speaking into his encircling arm.

He chuckled. “A coward would be running for Jader, my dear Warden. There is no shame in a little nervousness before such a fight. Even a little fear, no?”

“Not what I meant,” she sighed. There was a long pause, and then: “I made a deal with Morrigan, so me and Alistair won’t die tomorrow. Well, sort of. We could still die, but... one of the Wardens was guaranteed to die, see, killing the Archdemon. She says she can fix it so that won’t happen.”

He was quiet for a moment. “This is what she was biding her time for, yes?” Kallian knew that he’d long suspected the witch’s motives.

“Yep. Flemeth’s plan from the get-go.”

He shifted, rubbing her arm lightly. “Is that so bad? Perhaps Flemeth had a soft spot for Grey Wardens, no?”

“No,” Kallian said flatly. “Morrigan does, though, and Alistair’s filling it up right now.”

The strangled choking sound behind her almost made her smile. “You... you do not mean to say that Alistair and Morrigan are -- ?”

“It’s some sex magic thing,” Kallian said, feeling her face warm in shame. “The poor guy... I think he’d honestly have rather died in battle, Zev. But I talked him into it. Because I’m a coward. I can’t believe... I can’t believe I did that. I made him -- ”

“You did not, amora,” he chided her softly. “Unless you dragged him to her room and held him down for her.”

“You didn’t see his face, Zev. He trusts me and when I said it had to be done, he -- ”

“He knew you were right,” Zevran finished firmly. “There will be regrets and shame, yes, but he will be alive to have them. That is always the better path.”

“But - ”

“No ‘buts’, amora. I know whereof I speak.”

“I... oh. Oh.” And she turned in the compass of his arms to hold him. “I’m doing everything wrong tonight, Zev, I’m sorry. I didn’t mean...”

“Hush, my Warden.” He did not look upset. “From the sound of it, you have done many things right, and given hope where there was none. As an agent of inescapable death myself,” he said with a self-deprecating grin, “I know too well what my victims would have given for such a reprieve. Alistair, if he has any sense at all - which is not at all certain, of course - will thank you one day for this.”

“You think?”

“I know.”

She smiled, tentatively. Perhaps she was not so unforgivable, after all.

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Also, congrats to frostajulie!

I'll try and be better with feedback this week. I was kinda out of it last week. >.>

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Congratulations, frostajulie! :)

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Congratulations to frostajulie! Posted Image

@ Verly ~ Great prompt. I will have to find some time in between papers to get something together.

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@Jenovan - I really like that entry. Straight-forward certainly isn't always best. (And thanks!) 

@Verly - I like that. The comparison of brands is interesting. (And interesting idea for the new prompt)!

@Shadow of Light Dragon - It's certainly a different kind of comfort than most of the others, but it seems to work for me. I like it.

@payroo - Thanks!

@frostajulie - Congratulations! That was a very nice entry.

@Corker - I really like that one. Interesting, and also humorous in places.

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Verly wrote...



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Prompt: "What would Zevran say... I think you know." 

This is what Morrigan says during her dark ritual offer.  When she gives your Warden reasons why he/she should take her offer this is one of the things she mentions.   What would Zev say if your Warden could ask him?
Time Limit: 3 hours
Deadline: Tuesday midnight (EST)  April 19th
Prize:  Give me any screenshot from your game and I'll do a Artrage outline (possible colored)  sfw or nsfw i don't care.


Ritual...

Prompts: 2
Time: 2 Hours

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*le sigh*

Coming back from dropping off the face of the earth to say that I wish I were surprised that Zev's cameo is buggy in DA2 (which I've just found out). But considering his romance in DAO was already bugged, well...

Guess I'll have to hold out a bit more before starting a DA2 playthrough.

In the meantime though, a great big hug for Zev (grope included). Because he's also been uglied Posted Image

Seriously though, so far, I find that the only elf who benefits from the new and "improved" DA2 look is Fenris. The others...*shudder*

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Agreed I love elves and I love playing as an elf but they are awful in DA2... except Fenris. Made deciding not to purchase the game until it sells for $20 very easy for me.

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I think there's a few more good examples than that... Merrill, Marethari, and Athenril all look well-designed, IMO, and for some reason, I rather liked Huon's wife, after I accepted her hairdo. I'm not sure if I actually liked the look of Jethann, or if his animation and VA were just so amusing that it totally eclipsed his toon. I thought Pol looked okay, and there were a few random passers-by here and there who (at least in the long view) looked good. And (inexplicable brand aside) I liked Huon's design. Not winning any beauty pageants anytime soon, but he's not meant to.

Buuut still not really liking the Zevran import. :/

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Thing is, the attractive elves in 2 are mostly only attractive because they got big, well defined eyes WITH at least a brow ridge if not eyebrows, and smaller narrower noses and pouty lips. Even so, when you look at them real close, or from certain angles, they still look freakish with that nose and that weird neck. Their body shape reminds me of aliens... you know, the gray ones people believe in IRL... All long skinny limbs, concave torso, little actual muscle and bone structure... They don't even look attractive in a fey way, just freakish. I think the idea of making their face shape and figure more different from the other races is fine and all, but it is sooooooooooo poorly done and over done. Do all elves REALLY have to have the same exact nose, just different sizes? Really? And why do their necks get wider ware they join the head and narrower ware they join the shoulders? Yuck. I'm beyond not OK with that.

I don't think it's possible to create Zevran properly as a DA2 style elf, because his bone structure was nothing like the bone structure that all elves share now. The pointy nose that stuck outward from his face balanced his sharp cheekbones and slightly jutting chin, which in turn balanced his large pouty lips. If you give him this new forehead-ridge-to-nose bridge thing, with the flat face, it utterly ruins his features. They also made his brow ridge too low and chin too long. Ugh.

The only thing inherently attractive about the new elves is their cute dainty little feet. Not that it makes even the least bit of sense to go around a city barefoot, much less into battle barefoot. I think the eyes can be pretty when they aren't too huge, and are balanced and fit with the rest of their features, which they often don't anymore.

I also hate their ears. Too cartoony. I'm all for giving the Dalish Elves ears that stand out a bit more and are longer, as the Dalish are supposed to look different from City Elves according to lore... the City Elves are the 'flat ears' who can almost pass for being petite and pretty humans, because their proximity to humans alters their genetics. This also is what is noted as making them so attractive to humans. City Elves should not have these huge long ears that stick straight out. (the new ears also help make Zevran look weird.)

This rant was brought to you by sleepy crankynes. Will get caught up on thread.... Monday?

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@Corker... Nyssa weirds me out, like Orana, the eyes are interesting but the rest of the face..... ;) I mean sure, well designed but they weird me out and Huon..... *shiver* that was just unpleasant, lol

I don't understand why they didn't just leave Zev and Alistair alone, they could have given him the same face with just the larger eyes (I like the big eyes) they managed to recreate Leliana to look exactly the same so there is no excuse.............Oh wait a minute..... she is female THAT must be why *cynical face*

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@ Corker: Can't say I agree, unfortunately. Maybe Athenril, but that would be the only one from your list. All the other ones look like vampires from Buffy to me (and Huon I find just downright creepy). And that's not a good thing. I'm actually starting to wonder how it is that Fenris still managed to look good. I might have not minded Merrill, I think, if I didn't remember her from DAO. I thought she looked better and also older. So when she turns out looking like a manga-eyed ditzy teenager...errr...

@ EccentricSage: Agreed about the new bone structure not fitting Zev. The DA2 elves all look bony, whereas Zev had rather curvy, sensual features. Had they just shown me a screenshot of him from DA2 without saying who it was, I wouldn't have recognized him. The nose is wrong, the mouth is wrong, and that eyebrow ridge just makes the poor guy look like a Neanderthal ><

I'm wondering if they were trying to go for an "antique Greek statue" look with the freaky noses. Doesn't explain the concave-chested, über-thin body shape or the unnaturally big eyes though. Still, it's really hard for me to believe that elves are supposed to be attractive to humans in the DA-verse now.

Then again, it's true that some humans got hit with the ugly stick as well. Both Alistair and Anders look like they've just woken up from a hangover.

@ Jenova65: Maybe they managed to recreate Leliana almost perfectly because - and correct me if I'm wrong here, but that's what I seem to remember - she had a generic human female face model to begin with?

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I thought I'd share my latest Zev and Veylya artwork. It's nsfw so I will share a link. :)

http://i16.photobuck...y-Exploring.jpg

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The elves just look odd to me in DA II. Fenris and Merrill look almost all right (so long as I ignore certain things), as do Marethari and Athenril (if I ignore a few more things), but most of them... no.

There were only two things I liked better about the elves in DA II (and I will admit I'm picky about elves in general): them being taller, and the Dalish having an accent (which I always thought was odd that they didn't). Everything else, I'd much rather was how it had been. Ears are something I actually tend to not even notice, but every time I did notice them I thought they were too large.

I think Fenris and Merrill would look better in the old way, too, really - they're already less extreme than most of the new elves. 

Anders, Nathaniel and Leliana looked fine to me (though I think Leliana actually did looked somewhat different, so I'm sure there are those who thought otherwise), and Alistair looked a bit off (though not so badly off as Zevran).

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Halae Dral wrote...

The elves just look odd to me in DA II. Fenris and Merrill look almost all right (so long as I ignore certain things), as do Marethari and Athenril (if I ignore a few more things), but most of them... no.

There were only two things I liked better about the elves in DA II (and I will admit I'm picky about elves in general): them being taller, and the Dalish having an accent (which I always thought was odd that they didn't). Everything else, I'd much rather was how it had been. Ears are something I actually tend to not even notice, but every time I did notice them I thought they were too large.

I think Fenris and Merrill would look better in the old way, too, really - they're already less extreme than most of the new elves. 

Anders, Nathaniel and Leliana looked fine to me (though I think Leliana actually did looked somewhat different, so I'm sure there are those who thought otherwise), and Alistair looked a bit off (though not so badly off as Zevran).


I love the Welsh accents for the elves, too.  <3 

Anders looks hawt.  Mmmm.  Lelliana in 2 looks more like the mod someone made for Origins that made her resemble her apearance in the trailer.  All in all, I think she improved.

There's also Cullen.  He looks younger in 2, and they softened his features.  I think they made him more of a pretty boy than he was in Origins, which is unfortunate, IMO.  I liked his very prominent and distinguished features in Origins.  I don't want everyone to look like twenty-somethings through a soft focus lense.  But he still came out GOOD.  I still want to bang him.

Alistair looks like he's had too much cheese and wine.  There's a theory that it's a face designed just for drunken alistair, and that maybe this is a bug and there's a better face for King or Warden Alistair.  It'll be nice if that is true.  But by real world standards, I didn't think he looked that terrible.  Still a cute guy, just a cute guy who's let himself go a bit.  lol

My god, I need to go find some threads about fans complaining about Alistair's face... I imagine epic opportunities for Gaider snark. XD

Oh, and Isabella... I had trouble getting used to the re-design of a familiar character, and how stupid I think her outfit is, but she looks great and is awesome.  <3

I really hope they make a toolset available.  I would love to see Zevran restored to his former glory, with maybe a bit of added age to his features, elves in general tweeked, and some sexy leather armor for Isabella.  And shoes for the elves.

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Just as an aside -- Fenris has a unique body, not the standard elf male. He's quite a bit broader in the shoulder and his arms definitely are more muscular. Fenris also has far stronger features than the other elves -- he has a square, well defined jaw, and he actually DOES have prominent cheekbones. His eyebrows also detract from the flat nose thing.

I think for the most part DA2 elves look like insects. Some look ok, but most are pretty bad.

I think Zevran could actually be salvaged. Make his eyes larger and closer together and do some serious work on his lower face, getting the angularity back to it which can be done with the face morph system, darken his eyebrows a bit, try to get him some cheekbones, and he'd be fine.

But I don't think we're going to get a toolset.

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ejoslin wrote...

Just as an aside -- Fenris has a unique body, not the standard elf male. He's quite a bit broader in the shoulder and his arms definitely are more muscular. Fenris also has far stronger features than the other elves -- he has a square, well defined jaw, and he actually DOES have prominent cheekbones. His eyebrows also detract from the flat nose thing.


Aha! So that's what it is. They cheated when they made Fenris. Makes sense now. That being said, I still find his build to be a bit too much on the slight side. Especially for someone who uses a greatsword.

I think Zevran could actually be salvaged. Make his eyes larger and closer together and do some serious work on his lower face, getting the angularity back to it which can be done with the face morph system, darken his eyebrows a bit, try to get him some cheekbones, and he'd be fine.

But I don't think we're going to get a toolset.


Posted Image That's a shame. Did BW outright say so, or...?

EccentricSage wrote...

Anders looks hawt. Mmmm.


See, I wouldn't have found anything wrong with his current appearance if I couldn't compare him to his Awakening self. But I found he was distinctly hotter in that. He had finer features and a thinner face, and I preferred that. That wonderful aquiline nose, yummm...

Alistair looks like he's had too much cheese and wine. There's a theory that it's a face designed just for drunken alistair, and that maybe this is a bug and there's a better face for King or Warden Alistair. It'll be nice if that is true.


I was actually wondering about that. It really does look more appropriate for his drunken self.

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I'd forgotten about Isabela (probably because my character never took her anywhere). I think her face does look better, in fact, though her outfit bugs me. How I wish you could still give them different armour.


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Prompt: "What would Zevran say... I think you know." 

This is what Morrigan says during her dark ritual offer.  When she gives your Warden reasons why he/she should take her offer this is one of the things she mentions.   What would Zev say if your Warden could ask him?
Time Limit: 3 hours
Deadline: Tuesday midnight (EST)  April 19th
Prize:  Give me any screenshot from your game and I'll do a Artrage outline (possible colored)  sfw or nsfw i don't care.



Time: 1 hour, 46 minutes
Prompts: 0

I expect I'd've been better off drawing something on this one, but I felt like trying to write... (and I couldn't really figure out what to draw). Ah well; at least it's something.

- - -

The halls of Castle Redcliffe seemed silent and deserted, the darkness oppressive. Zemariel leaned against the wal, pressing the side of his face to the cool stone and staring out the window. It all looked so peaceful out there. He could hear footsteps in the hall - Morrigan returning to her room, he guessed. He almost turned to look, but reconsidered - he didn't really want to talk to her just now. The whole thing had been very awkward.

It had been the right thing to do. He was sure it had - how could making sure nobody had to die be wrong? - and he did trust her, but it felt wrong, and he still had doubts. What if she was lying, or if it simply didn't work after all? And then... I should've talked to Zev, he thought. There had been no time to do so - it had to be right then, she had said. He sighed.

Footsteps in the hall again. She's coming back? Zemariel braced himself and turned to face Morrigan. To his surprise, it was not the witch who was coming down the hall, but Zevran.

"Ah, so I have finally found you, my Warden!" Zevran looked quite cheerful, if perhaps slightly worried around the edges. Of course, Zemariel thought, he has no reason not to be cheerful - he doesn't know. "Zev..." he began, but couldn't manage to think how to put it. He folded his arms and kept looking out the window, half hoping Zevran would simply move on, having found him. A thought occured to him. "Did someone send you to look for me?"

Zevran paused. "No, nobody has sent me. I was simply wondering where you had gotten to."

"And here I am!" Zemariel was quite aware that the grin he was trying to give wasn't quite working, but he hoped that against all odds Zevran wouldn't pick up on it. Of course, he did.

"Something is bothering you, I see." Zevran came to stand beside him at the window. "You are not worried about the coming fight?"

"I guess I am. It's not that, though, not exactly, it's... well." Zemariel sighed in frustration. It would've been a convenient excuse - and it wasn't as if lying didn't come easily to him normally - but he didn't want to lie to Zevran. He didn't want to think about the implications of that considering how he expected the news of the ritual to be recieved.

"What, then?" Zevran shrugged. "Would it help to speak of it, perhaps?"

Just get it out of the way now, Zemariel told himself. He closed his eyes. That was harder than it sounded. He had always hated letting people down, and he was sure that was what he had just done. "Zev, do you know what happens to the Warden who deals the killing blow to the Archdemon?"

There was a pause. He opened his eyes again, watching Zevran's face. "To some extent, yes. I know that he dies." A momentary expression flickering across Zevran's features, but it was gone before Zemariel could be sure what it was. "You are not planning on doing it yourself, are you?"

Zemariel looked down at the ground. Maybe I should be. He tried to banish that thought. "It's not just dying. It's worse than that. The... soul of the Archdemon has to go somewhere, and it goes for the closest tainted target. It tries for another Darkspawn, I guess, so it can keep leading the horde, but if it's a Grey Warden it finds instead then the Archdemon's soul is destroyed. And so is the Grey Warden's."

"I see." Zevran made no indication of how he felt; he was obviously waiting for Zemariel to finish.

"I don't know what happens after we die. I guess you go to the Fade, or something. I've never really thought about it much. Whatever it is, it's got to be better than nothing. I don't know that I could strike the killing blow, knowing  what would happen. I don't think I could let Alistair do it. If Riordan fails, that is... and what are the odds we'll get it right the first time?"

"And yet you have no choice in that situation. One of you must do it, or the Blight will not be ended." Zevran put a hand one Zemariel's shoulder. It would normally have been a comforting gesture, but Zemariel felt worse. It seemed that Zevran was getting the wrong idea entirely about what he was trying to tell him. He opened his mouth to say something, but couldn't think how to put it. Apparently I only know the right things to say if I'm not being honest, he thought with some chagrin. "It is not a decision to be made lightly, I am sure," Zevran continued, "but if I may make a suggestion... Riordan is the more senior Warden than you, is he not? It seems that that honour should fall to him. Perhaps you could simply try to ensure his success, although I do admit to having certain selfish reasons to encourage you to do so."

"There was a choice," Zemariel finally blurted out, unable to bear the awkwardness of the conversation any longer. "Morrigan had a plan, a ritual, that would make it so nobody had to die from it. I couldn't turn that down! You can understand, can't you?"

"Of course." Zevran took Zemariel by the shoulders, forcing the Warden to look at him. "My dear Warden, it is not as if this were the first time we have employed blood magic to solve our probelsm - I assume that is your worry? They use a sort of blood magic in the Crows, you know. It does have its uses, and it seems this is one of them."

"Zev... no, that's not it - well, it probably was blood magic, but - damn it." Zemariel bit his lip and looked out the window. "I slept with her. The ritual is for... she said it needed a child, it had to be a Warden, and I couldn't ask Alistair to do that..." he trailed off, and finally made himself look back at Zevran. To his surprise, it seemed the other elf was holding back a laugh. "What's funny?"

"You slept with her?" Zevran shook his head. "That was all it was? The way you were carrying on, my Warden, I thought that you had agreed to be the one to sacrifice yourself to end this Blight and hadn't thought how to tell me! I could wish that you had spoken to me first, of course, but I am rather relieved."

"You don't mind?" Zemariel supposed his expression must have been rather comical, judging from the look on Zevran's face.

"I do admit to some amount of jealousy." Zevran chuckled. "Yet how could I mind, knowing that I do not have to worry about losing you to your nobly self-sacrificing ways?"

"I didn't say I was going to..." Zemariel decided he didn't really need to admit now that he had been prepared to do it if it had come down to it. Zevran had probably guessed as much anyhow.

"I could see that grim look in your eye when you left the meeting with Riordan," Zevran told him, confirming his suspicions. "I was contemplating knocking you out before the battle so you would not have been able to carry through with it, but I suppose I would have let you if you felt that it was what you had to do. I am, however, very glad that I needn't worry about it."

"I wanted to ask you first, but she said there wasn't any time." Zemariel hugged Zevran, leaning his head on the other assassin's shoulder. "I'm sorry. I should've insisted I ask you first. I'm glad you're not angry about it."

Zevran put his arms around Zemariel, holding him tightly. "I may become rather disgruntled, should it happen again, but I am far too relieved to be upset now, I assure you." After a moment, he leaned his head down to whisper in Zemariel's ear, a mischevious smile on his lips. "So then, tell me - how was it? I believe you owe me a story, at least."

Zemariel laughed. "Well, it was all rather awkward, really..." he began.

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"slightly worried around the edges." - I like that very much!

I love the entire "Sex? You're worried what I will think about using sex to achieve a goal? Warden, have you been listening to my stories?" vibe you have there. And Zev wanting the details. XD She *does* have that most delightful wrinkle on her brow when she's perplexed...

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Halae Dral, really nice! I love the little touches about Zemariel usually being a great liar, but he doesn't want to lie in this situation. The things love will do to someone. ;) (And it's so Zevran to ask for the details... XD)

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@ Halae Dral ~ It is just perfect. You express Zemariel's fears and anxiety very well. I really enjoyed it. Posted Image