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[Tryynity]

Tellervo wrote...

Tryynity wrote...

@ Tellervo - OOoo that picture is the best action shot yet Ive seen - Zevran riding the freaking Dragon as he is killing it - did you pose that??!?!?! or is that live action - my screenshots suck majorly which is why I only have shots taken during cutscenes

Fraps at one frame per second. Sometimes I'll pause, center on an interesting character, rotate and start, but I don't do a lot of posing.  Most of it is happy accident and shotgun approach.

That is just an awesome shot - I want a poster of that one   Ill put it atop my bedhead.

.... and yay !  I scored a T>O>P

Modifié par Tryynity, 06 octobre 2011 - 11:56 .

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Sresla wrote...

I think the shortest I ever managed to complete a prompt in was about 3:30, so it might be possible if I mentally planned it out and then just sat down and wrote (No distractions? For three hours? What is this sorcery!). I'm just slow.

I often write when I'm distracted XD I just have to put little notes at the end of each writing section (1.00 - 1.30) and add up how long it took. It can make for disjointed writing at times though, but this is kinda a speed-art comp so it's hard to aim for perfection.

Maybe we need a monthly unlimited limit comp to supplement the weekly timed or something...but the whole point of a short limit was, I think, so that people wouldn't have to feel they need to devote an inordinate amount of time to compete with others who do possess lots of distraction-free time. :/

Twelve keys is pretty generous, btw. I don't mind that going for a full free months, but that is me.

(Also, regarding Zev's sleeping habits, I think I agree with just about everyone else who chimed in up there. Lots of points to consider and room to wriggle)

[Tryynity]

Oh and Im good with the whole - spread it out thing.... oh yes and a monthly specific comp sounds good too to compete for just the prizes...

What would be even more awesome is if BIOWARE could spare a judge each week/month to award the prize ... wonder what Zev's original creator is up to right now?

Modifié par Tryynity, 06 octobre 2011 - 11:52 .

[Tryynity]

One last thing - what do some ppl here do to remedy writers block ?

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

I highly doubt David Gaider would be willing to read and judge Zevran fanfiction (a lot of writers are unwilling to read other peoples' stuff on their own characters, if only to protect themselves legally), but it'd be nice if there was an official comp that included fiction, Prizes are nice and all, and it's fantastic Bioware have thrown us some, but a lot of the appeal of entering competitions has little to do with the prizes, and more to do with exposure -- to the judges, to professional writers, to idols (Felicia Day is allegedly one of the judges on the (official) MotA Art and Cosplay comp, which is great for entrants who are fans of hers).

My best remedy for writer's block seems to be 'write something else'. Mostly I only get blocks (as opposed to 'I just don't want to write right now' syndrome) when I'm trying to write in a direction the story doesn't want to go. Usually fixed by scrapping that section and going a different way.

[Corker]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...
Mostly I only get blocks (as opposed to 'I just don't want to write right now' syndrome)

This is an important distinction!  As a person who tends to sort of dither around for a while, then make a decision and jump in with two feet, I plunged into fanfiction and quickly got to feeling like I owed the Invisible Audience something.  It was getting a bit stressful there, and I have to explicitly give myself permission not to write if I don't feel like it.

If I do feel like it, and I'm having a hard time getting the words to come out but I *do* know where the story's going, I write anyway.  Badly.  Like, I write the simplest and most banal record of what I see in my head.   Usually, within a few paragraphs I'm over whatever was keeping me from going forward, *and* I have a rough draft I can use as a starting point for rewriting the difficult bit.

If I don't know where the story's going - usually actually not knowing how a character would react to a situation - I tend to want to hash it out with people.  Once I feel like I've got a good handle on what's a reasonable in-character thing to do, I'm good to go.

Lastly, if you mean, "I want to write but I don't know what, I don't have any ideas," I can't much help except to say that, in my personal experience, doing something begets more of it.  So start with a prompt, from the thread here or a prompt generator or a fan community on LJ or elsewhere, and write the most obvious thing that comes to mind, even if it seems trite or less than clever.  Do that a few times over, and see if the ideas start coming.

(IME, it's not the ideas that are the hard part.  Ideas are kind of easy, once they get going.  It's the execution, the giving the idea shape, that's the killer.)

[Tryynity]

You are probably right but I would also think David would be the best judge of a character he wrote - but you are right. Maybe ZEV's VO perhaps or someone else... but anywho not important just an idea.

Re writers block - Yea, Im beginning to think Im going to scrap my project if this keeps happening and just focus on Prompt topics instead. I have little problem with those.

Or maybe just write the scenes I already have instead of all the stepping stones I need to write to get there LOL

It is school holidays which makes it incredibly hard, but they end this week.

EDIT

- and yes it is often the execution - I know what has to happen like right now - Zev + Bella + Kaitlyn at Redcliffe and yesterday it was Zev on the beach thinking - got thru that and now stuck again even though I know what is supposed to happen.

I went as far as starting a new story and playing as only Zev and ignoring my character altogther - in an effort to get deeper into his character... most of the problem is because Ive read so many other "Zevs" lately I think Ive lost touch with the one I envisoned

Modifié par Tryynity, 07 octobre 2011 - 02:46 .

[Aroihkin]

I've got an odd case when it comes to periods of not writing, so I'm no help. Though I can certainly understand the frustration of wanting to and not being able to.

And Tell always gets awesome screenshots. XD

[Corker]

Oh hey, just saw this this morning in a completely different corner of the Internet: 10 types of writer's block and what to do about them.

[Klidi]

Great article! I usually get type 8 -can't find right word, or type of 1 - can't come up with an idea, or their combination.
I have loose outline, I know where I want the story to go, but sometimes I can't come up with an idea for the next scene, or a chapter, or on the contrary, I can 'see' it, but I can't find right words to express it. Writing exercises don't help - I don't have problems with writing in general, but with writing that concrete scene. It can be quite frustrating.

[Tryynity]

Yep thats me too

I live for the moments it just pours out of you I hate all the other times... I dont feel pressured to write for FF - for my LotRO story I posted everyday until I got sucked into DAO and Zevran's story

That was tuff going...

Thanks for the article Im going to read it now


EDIT - just read the article and I see another of the reasons I stopped with The Book of Gwynnyyth - I made a major plot mistake and couldnt fix it if I was to keep the story in-game.... Im going to re-write it later outside of the LotRO universe and just keep it in Tolkien's .... then of course Ill contact Jackson and ask him to make the movie with me - he will jump at the opportunity of course, who wouldnt *grynz* ... but thats another story ahaha

That article was extremly helpful thank you very much

Modifié par Tryynity, 07 octobre 2011 - 12:16 .

[ejoslin]

Seeing as I'm absolutely GREAT at overthinking things, one thing did occur to me about whether Zevran actually sleeps with the warden. Their first time, the after sex talk happens in the morning just before it's time for them to go which would make me think they had spent the entire night together.

The conversation starts this way:

Zevran: See? I knew this would happen eventually. I should have warned you right from the moment you refused to kill me. It was inevitable. (he is referring to the fact that they have just had sex, teasingly making it sound like some inevitability)

And ends this way:

Zevran: At any rate, we should be on our way. A new day awaits us, or so the rumor goes. (pleased)

I suppose that doesn't mean they actually slept, but, well, yeh. But also, if you ask him if he's still trying to kill you, he admonishes the warden slightly in all branches about how they should be past those types of suspicions.

Edit: I know, I'm overthinking this.  Moving along now

Modifié par ejoslin, 07 octobre 2011 - 03:51 .

[Aroihkin]

Overthinking is most of what's left to us, I don't see a problem with it. XD

[Sresla]

ejoslin wrote...

Zevran: At any rate, we should be on our way. A new day awaits us, or so the rumor goes. (pleased)

Technically, EJ, if you were overthinking, you'd have taken into account that - unless you mod it to be otherwise - at camp, it's always nighttime. So, you could argue that, after having sex, the Warden and Zevran repair to their separate tents until "morning." When the new day actually, you know, dawns.

(I haven't looked at that day/night mod in forever. I know the author was talking about having it be a random toggle, which I would have loved, to give it a feeling of actual time passage.)

[Zaxarus]

I support Ejoslins opinion about Zevran. Above all else he sees himself as a good lover. He has the ambition to be one. And to that belongs "the time after". Naturally he will react to the behaviour of his ood (object of desire). If the warden behaves very casual, Zevran will too. But normally he would try hard to give his ood a good feeling. As Ejoslin said, this "attack-finished-leave" is not very much liked, especially by the Damselles. No daisies in the morning, but await the sunrise together, yes.
And at least the warden he will trust from the beginning after their very special entré.

About David Gaider. mmm, i doubt i would like him to be a lector of my Zevran stories. Everyone here has his/her very own "version" of Zev. They should be similar, but not interchangeable. I don't want to copy DG, but evolve my own story about "my" Zevran.

[Sialater]

The prizes sound lovely. And I really wish I had an idea for this prompt. I really do. But... even if I won, I couldn't use the codes. I play on the 360.

[ejoslin]

Sresla, I just ignore that as the camp looks like it's night even in Leliana's after sex talk where it is clear that it's morning. Plus there are other dialogs from camp where companions say it's time to move on. I write it off as a graphics limitation.

And yes, Zaxarus, slam-bam-thank-you-ma'am is just, in my mind, not being a good lover, no matter how much fun the slam-bam part is

[Sialater]

Zaxarus wrote...
About David Gaider. mmm, i doubt i would like him to be a lector of my Zevran stories. Everyone here has his/her very own "version" of Zev. They should be similar, but not interchangeable. I don't want to copy DG, but evolve my own story about "my" Zevran.

Exactly.  Given that it's an RPG, each of the companions would evolve differently according to your Warden.  Hell, it's even true among my own Wardens.  I percieve Moira Surana's Zevran as ultimately different from Emma Cousland's Zevran.  They are similar, especially in that base personality set, but Emma's Zev hasn't been in love since Rinna.

[Corker]

Sialater wrote...


Exactly.  Given that it's an RPG, each of the companions would evolve differently according to your Warden. 

XD  Haha, I admit, I love to play around with this.  When you realize that the romance arc will go the same way, no matter what, as long as the approvals are up, trying to work out The Story Behind the Story is a lot of fun.  Why is Zevran just as loyal to a good-hearted Tabris who treats him well as he is to a cruel Amell who knows how to game the approval mechanics (tent time bonuses ftw!)?  Reconciling the in-game Zevran, who is by necessity largely the same, with the unseen Zevran is a trip.

[Bitenomnom]

Sushifer wrote...



First Time
Time Limit: 3 hours
Deadline: 8pm GMT Friday 7th October

Whew! Just in time, by my calculation. Formatting it to look not ridiculous took a lot longer than I thought. (And, naturally, Zev takes my DA-fanfic-posting virginity.) Anyway... *dies of nervousness*

The First Test


EDIT: Oops, forgot:

Time: 2.5 hours
Prompts: 1

Modifié par Bitenomnom, 07 octobre 2011 - 09:53 .

[Klidi]

If all Zevrans would be the same, there wouldn't be much point to write or read fanfiction. That's what I love about it - finding all those little differences, when the author manages to bring something new, when I think 'oh, it's so true, how come I never noticed that'. No matter how small detail it is.

[Bitenomnom]

D'oh, I didn't see that this posted so I rewrote it below. XD

Modifié par Bitenomnom, 07 octobre 2011 - 08:24 .

[Bitenomnom]

Klidi, I totally agree! That's part of why I love reading fanfiction, to see different ways people view or write the same character. Sometimes, you can get more insight into the character(s) involved just by comparing, for instance, how Zevran differs from one story to another. (If that makes any sense.) And you'd expect there'd be lots of different Zevrans, as Sialater said, because in theory the Warden affects Zevran every bit as much as he affects him/her.

I also agree with you, Corker -- "the story behind the story" stuff is so much fun to think about/work with. I love it when people navigate around/explain away effects of the game mechanics, etc., with their own ideas/explanations.

[Zaxarus]

ejoslin wrote...

And yes, Zaxarus, slam-bam-thank-you-ma'am is just, in my mind, not being a good lover, no matter how much fun the slam-bam part is.

May i hijack this phrase on occasion please?

[Sushifer]

Aaaand prompt is closed! What an excellent turnout we've had this week, too- it's really lovely that it's got so many people inspired, heh. I'm going to enjoy judging!

I may or may not be away for the first half of tomorrow, depending on how things work out. So, I might not have the results ready until tomorrow evening, but it definitely won't be later than then.

Modifié par Sushifer, 07 octobre 2011 - 09:01 .