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I have been trying to find a comic strip that I saw Zevran in that was hilarious but I cant remember where nor can I find it.

It had a funny warden in it that insisted she was a guy it was freakin hilarious.

One scene the boys and this warden were perving on - morrigan, wynne and leliana having a bath and they got busted.

If anyone knows who that is or where it is pls point me in the direction - I knew I should have bookmarked it Posted Image

FINALLY !  Found one of my TOP

TY SolD



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Keeps shrinking down :(  - linked to DeviantArt page for bigger version

Modifié par Tryynity, 03 novembre 2011 - 11:46 .


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I found the story easy to follow. Using the italics for thoughts, for me, made the story clearly understandable. I will say, however, that it is probably easier for someone who is already familiar with that scene in the game to follow than someone, say, who had not played the game. Just a thought.

And I like Taryn.  She's fun. Posted Image

Modifié par tklivory, 03 novembre 2011 - 05:25 .


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@Tryynity - You're looking for Zinoodle's art, methinks (Kornichon here on BSN). :) You should find all you're looking for in her 'Messalyn's Comics' folder.

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I support Tklivorys opinion. Story is easy (and fun) to read. Tho one point i have: i don't like to many quotations. But thats a question of personal taste.

@Bite
If it is understandable what i want to say, that is a most important first step. The rest comes - i hope - with time. I'm writing now in english since 5 weeks (before that never more than a few lines in a forum), so it will be a few months, perhaps even a year before i'm content with my style.

@All a question about Zevran
In the first meeting you have the line: "i want to torture you first" with his answer: "... pleasure ... but torture is to get informations".
Now the question: what if i want to do exactly this? Torture him first to verify his former informations. How hard would it be to succesfully accomplish and how would he react afterwards? Would he understand the need?

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tklivory wrote...

I found the story easy to follow. Using the italics for thoughts, for me, made the story clearly understandable. I will say, however, that it is probably easier for someone who is already familiar with that scene in the game to follow than someone, say, who had not played the game. Just a thought.

And I like Taryn.  She's fun. Posted Image


Thank you - it is only first draft and needs more fleshing out - she is supposed to be less Valley Girl Dumb and more Valley Girl Smart - with a mix of Private School Tramp LOL or something like that.

Thank you so much for reading - I wasnt sure it was easy enough to follow - for me it is.  I probably need to add more back drop to help ppl who have not seen DAO although my audience for this character has Im sure.

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

@Tryynity - You're looking for Zinoodle's art, methinks (Kornichon here on BSN). :) You should find all you're looking for in her 'Messalyn's Comics' folder.


Yes yes that is it !!! MESSALYN  I luvs her Posted Image and her/his Zev is gorgeous Posted Image

Zaxarus wrote...

I support Tklivorys opinion. Story is easy (and fun) to read. Tho one point i have: i don't like to many quotations. But thats a question of personal taste.


@All a question about Zevran
In the first meeting you have the line: "i want to torture you first" with his answer: "... pleasure ... but torture is to get informations".
Now the question: what if i want to do exactly this? Torture him first to verify his former informations. How hard would it be to succesfully accomplish and how would he react afterwards? Would he understand the need?



Thank you I appreciate your imput - if you can follow and its not your natural language that is a good sign.


Re:  Zevran - I dont think you actually get to torture him - I think I said that to him on one thru but it just gave a different conversation but I dont remember that line... hmmm

Im running my Cousland thru tonight up until Zev ambush I think so Ill see.

Modifié par Tryynity, 03 novembre 2011 - 07:59 .


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@ Zax: I think if you tortured him, he would still join you - but I think he wouldn't trust you, and it would be more likely that he would betray you or simply leave.

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Zaxarus wrote...

Now the question: what if i want to do exactly this? Torture him first to verify his former informations. How hard would it be to succesfully accomplish and how would he react afterwards? Would he understand the need?


In the Lost in Dreams quest of Broken Circle, Zevran's dream implies he'd be a hard nut to crack if it came to torture. On the other hand, how would you know if you'd successfully verified your information? Torture never guarantees truth.

How would he react afterwards? Well, I imagine he'd like you about as much as he likes the Crows. I suppose he'd consider your approach practical, although considering he's already told you everything without torture he might also consider it a bloody waste of time when he was being cooperative from the start.

He'd probably stick with the party, as he needs protection from the Crows, but earning his friendship might be harder. It might depend on this: did Taliesen ever torture Zevran in earnest (sexplay does not count, people :P)?

Edit: NP Tryynity :D

Modifié par Shadow of Light Dragon, 03 novembre 2011 - 08:26 .


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@Tryynity
Oh, misunderstanding. I don't mean torture him in the game. I will meet him (hrhr, just a freudian slip, wrote "meat him" first) in a few days in my fanfic story and thought about what is realistic to describe.

@Shadow
"you never know your success in torturing". That's a good point, especially as my warden has no experience in the matter.

Modifié par Zaxarus, 03 novembre 2011 - 08:36 .


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LOL I totally missed that .... my bad thats what happens when you read/reply multitask when replying to peoples questions

Plus I was thinking about Fenris and what to do hehehe

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I love the Fenris-Rivalry-Romance. Ejoslin's video started this idea. But in most PTs i leave him after the romance scene. I like Merrill toooo much.

Time zone googling, Tryynity is now preparing dinner, Zaxarus drinks his second morning coffee.

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? How can you have a Rivalry romance .... I need to start hanging in the Fenris thread... I havent yet coz I havent decided who ... if anyone will beat Zev on the attachment disorder thing I have going on LOL

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I think we speak about this better in your blog. :)

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Tryynity wrote...

? How can you have a Rivalry romance .... I need to start hanging in the Fenris thread... I havent yet coz I havent decided who ... if anyone will beat Zev on the attachment disorder thing I have going on LOL


Heh, it's easy. :) Instead of going into the Friend zone you go Rival, and just keep selecting those flirt options. The romance activates either way, and you still get all the companion quests provided you max out Friend/Rival.

I do miss having companions *hate* you though, enough that they'll get angry and leave. DA2 you can't even tell your companions to leave when you're fed up with them (with one notable exception, except that he comes back. Twice).

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Yes, it annoys me, too. I hate rivalmance. It makes no sense. And it's much less fun.
Admit it: who didn't make Zev angry to hear his great story about drunk girl who puked on his leather boots? xD

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Rivalmances would make more sense if the rivalry system was a little more coherent. At its best, it represents challenging the NPC on their beliefs, and I think that can work in a story. But at its worst, it means you can do things that the NPC ought to find utterly reprehensible and still end up in bed.

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I've not actually done a rivalmance in DA2, and I think largely for that reason (feeling like I'd have to do things that simply shouldn't be compatible with a romance...). I think there could be a good way for it to be done...maybe if it were combined with Origins' idea of hardening characters. (Not that one would be requisite of the other, or correlate with it directly, or anything, but...just a thought. The positive, redeeming parts of a rivalmance [questioning the NPC's beliefs/behavior/etc.] seem to match well with the instances of hardening in Origins. I think?)

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Yes. It is like the hardening, especially if you want to "improve" the companion, to help him grow up (in Alistairs case).
In DA2 for example i see something simliar in the relationship to Merrill. You collect rivalry points if you speak out against her use of blood magic. You don't do it to hurt her but to help her realize her errors, so that she can be a "better elf", possibly (in the beginning) even to conciliate Merrill with her clan.

btw i like the system in ME2 more with the 2 parallel scores of friend/rival. with some characters in DA2 i have the problem that i don't fully disagree or agree with them. If i want to play my char consequently i go up and down with the points. In the end (decision for the final battle) i perhaps loose a companion thru this system.

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/agreed when I read that my first reaction was How would that work?

"You ugly scrag I hate your f'n guts now get im my bed - ooo baby" I dont think so LOL:blink:

When you challenge a person - they may hate you at first but like you more for being real later - but that would make the score go up

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Tryynity wrote...

? How can you have a Rivalry romance .... I need to start hanging in the Fenris thread... I havent yet coz I havent decided who ... if anyone will beat Zev on the attachment disorder thing I have going on LOL


Heh, it's easy. :) Instead of going into the Friend zone you go Rival, and just keep selecting those flirt options. The romance activates either way, and you still get all the companion quests provided you max out Friend/Rival.

I do miss having companions *hate* you though, enough that they'll get angry and leave. DA2 you can't even tell your companions to leave when you're fed up with them (with one notable exception, except that he comes back. Twice).


I have to say Ive never had anyone hate me - maybe I should do that - I tried to make Alistair hate one of my characters but changed my mind - I could stand being hated LOL

I should experiment but I dont like it - I told Zev to leave just to see and broke up with him - OMG it was terrible - his face Posted Image I felt terrible - so I dont really play around with the negative side Im too chicken LOL

Modifié par Tryynity, 03 novembre 2011 - 11:26 .


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You should definitely make Zev hate you. It's hilarious. xD

#5870
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Who can tell me how to get Mark of Assassin - previous code winners would know this.

I have the code but Im not sure what to do with it LOL

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@Tryynity: On the side-menu, you'll go to My Games -> Register Games. At the top there's a link to click for promo code redemption. You can then paste it into the box on that page, and there should also be a link to get to "registered game content" that you can click on after that. (Or maybe it takes you straight to that page? Don't remember.) The link for Mark of the Assassin should be there now (on mine, it's at the very top). Click the appropriate "more info" button on the side, and ta-da! There is a download link.
There might be a faster way, but I think that's how I did it.

@Klidi: Is it really? Eep, I don't know if I'd have the heart...but if it really is, I might have to give it a shot...

Modifié par Bitenomnom, 04 novembre 2011 - 03:42 .


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Aw dangit, I quoted myself instead of editing my post. Ignore this please. XD

Modifié par Bitenomnom, 04 novembre 2011 - 03:41 .


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LOL ty Bite I will do that - I saw that but I didnt want to punch the code in and then have it register as redeemed and then find out I could not use it later when I got the download.

Tallis looks like a fun character Im looking forward to it.

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You should definitely make Zev hate you. It's hilarious. xD



I dont think I could stand it - but I should give it a go just for something different

Modifié par Tryynity, 04 novembre 2011 - 06:00 .


#5874
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While Alistair yells, Zev will tell you what you remind him of. ;)

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You can also search YouTube to find clips of most of the DAO dialogue, so you can hear Zevran's little parable or Alistair's rant without triggering it yourself.