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[Remmirath]

ejoslin wrote...

Also, though, (donning flame-proof suit here), I have my doubts about the depth of Zevran's feelings towards Rinna.  When he fell in love with the warden, he says he had no clue what love is, and he had to sort everything out.  It's like how he considered Taliesen a good friend, until he becomes good friends with the warden, and then he says he never had a friend before.

It's like, at least to me, that before the warden, the depth of feelings, of relationships, was far shallower.  It wasn't until he either became close friends or fell in love with the warden that he realized what friendship/love truly was.

Edit: Even if he felt he loved Rinna, he was so quick to not trust her and to let her be killed.  He felt no bitterness towards the person who killed her. He was sad that Taliesen had to die, not relieved, not feeling vindicated.  It seemed that when he was confessing about Rinna, it was more than he had done this horrible thing, but also what exactly he was, and what his worth as a person was.

You're really good at explaining these things. That's the impression I've always gotten, too.

All right, so I tried to draw something for the prompt. I have now learned that one hour is in fact not nearly enough time to try to draw a complicated scene! (Should've been obvious, right?) 
So, instead of doing the wise thing and changing it to something else easier to do, I just went ahead with it as far as I could.

Link because I'm not sure how large of images it's okay to post. (If the size isn't a problem and the link is annoying I can edit this.) 

Supposed to be having just killed Taliesin and after that whole fight. I guess I tend to interpret 'fate' as a sort of unpleasant but doomed to happen eventually kind of thing. I recalled that Zev lopping off his head was how it went down in one of my games, and I just went with it. It seemed to fit at the time. (And, honestly, I didn't have any other ideas.) 
I didn't have a ruler or any reference screenshots, so... yeah. Sucky perspective and such, and probably doesn't look a thing like the right place.

I should probably go sleep now before I just fall asleep in my chair. I think I'll catch up on looking through the last few pages and such when I'm not so incredibly tired.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

@Halae Dral - I looked at the pic before reading the explanation, and could tell instantly what the scene was meant to be. Poor Zev

@TotoroTori - Nekkid dwarf piggybacks?

Modifié par Shadow of Light Dragon, 07 septembre 2010 - 08:35 .

[Corker]

So, what do you do when your toddler decides to wait up for Daddy, two nights in a row, when Daddy is at an out-of-state wedding and not coming back that night?  You crumble, let the toddler fall asleep on the sofa, and play a new DAO game so that you don't fall asleep.  And then, since it's a holiday weekend and what the hell, you ignore all the posts on the ZevThread to see how far you can get your new Dalish before you have to start going to bed at a decent hour so you can function at work.

Hypothetically speaking, I mean.   And the answer is "everything except Orzammar."

Anyhow, I think I'm caught up now...

Sarah - Inexperienced Zevran is inexperienced.  Kind of surprised they let him out of the guildhouse...

wildannie - I like the spots of color and the change to his hair to show that it's a younger Zevran than Origins.  Fairly disturbing that they're only wearing towels.  

caridounette - Bittersweet.  I liked it.

Tanith - Hurray for internal politics!  Was the idea to isolate and assassinate the more experienced members of the House before cleaning out their headquarters?

Hilde - Okay, I'm an Anora fan, and I have to wonder why she'd think Howe is any less a threat to her power than her own dear father, but... hey, if you're going to have an evil!Anora, at least she's being proactive, and I can get behind that.

Mina - I love Vaughan's deranged expression.

Konichon - Fearless assassin undertakes impossible contract!  Killing two Grey Wardens has got to be easier than killing an innful of roaches.  (In his bare feet!  Ewwwww...)

ICevoL  - Love the inversion of the in-game contract and, uh, other stuff.

SoLD - I always find your Zevran to be pitch-perfect.

TotoroTori - Oh, so cute!

Halae Dral - I like the background.  Now that I'm looking at it... I think we get a lot more tight-in portraits than we do longer shots with backgrounds, and it's nice to see it set.  (I especially love that the Thedas Loot Fairies have left a Random Chest by the stairs.)

[TotoroTori]

Kornichon wrote...
TotoroTori ==> haha, naked? what are they doing in such position?

I absolutely have no clue you can never control you own characters


Maybe they are skinny dipping after smexy time? yall can give a scenario

Shadow of Light Dragon - yup , he needs a bosom to remind him why he 'works' for her.

Corker - Thank-you

Modifié par TotoroTori, 07 septembre 2010 - 12:55 .

[ICevoL]

I'm hoping someone here can help me with a question about the kmeme.

I've written a response for one of the prompts, but I'm a bit fuzzy on how the whole Anon posting thing works.  Is using a character that I've already posted in a "public" story OK?  I wrote an Alek/Zev for one of the open prompts, but I don't know if I should replace Alek's name with another (would probably use default M!Cousland first name) to keep it "anonymous" that I wrote the thing.  It's not a big deal to me if people figure out I wrote it (unlikely, unless someone on this thread happens across my response), but the Help/FAQ thread is HUGE so it's not terribly efficient to read the whole thing looking for an answer.

Someone help me out, please?

Corker -- I'm not sure whether I should curse you or kiss you for giving me this link...

[ICevoL]

Gah!!! double post - freaking forum *smacks it*

Edit: Since I can't delete this - I'll use it for something constructive.

Corker - thanks for reading Pirate!Zev.  Glad you enjyed *hugs*

Modifié par ICevoL, 07 septembre 2010 - 01:50 .

[jenovan]

/delurks



ICevoL, using your Warden's name is perfectly fine Some readers actually prefer it, they want to read about individuals. (Other readers want to be able to self-insert... XD) But if your Warden is written with a lot of specific traits and personality anyway, leaving his name is perhaps better. (Unless you absolutely don't want anyone to know who you are, of course.

[Corker]

It's up to you. Many of the contributors use their own Wardens and laughingly call it anon!fail, because if you know their Warden from a fan thread here, or from their less explicit fiction, it's not so anon. Some get a fan following on kmeme, if you saw the list of not-quite-so-anon LJs. From that point of view, having a distinct Warden can be an advantage - it goes to branding.



Uh, in the marketing sense.



tl;dr - If it's not a big deal to you, you don't have to use "Aedan Cousland."

[ICevoL]

*hugs jenovan*

Thank you for the quick response! I'll post it with Alek's name in it, then -- I don't care if my "anon" identity is known (it's not like I haven't already posted some bondage!kink publicly *snerk*) -- just didn't want to accidently break the rules...

// edited to add -- thanks to Corker, too! -- posters on this thread are awesome!  //

Modifié par ICevoL, 07 septembre 2010 - 01:58 .

[Corker]

*points to thread title*

[caridounette]

 @ icevol thanks for the link! Funny Zevran is funny, specialy with his accent. The convos i personaly find the most funny are between him and Wynne. magic bosoms and what its like to have a spirit in you... its just too hilarious!

@Totoritori (hope i spelled that right) Zev/Brosca look so playful ! Its beautiful.

@Halae you drew Zevran very good. I like how the companions are turned away while the Warden ( i guess thats who it is) is looking from atop. You can sense the Warden is sad by the way he/she leans even without the expression.

[TanithAeyrs]

@Totorotori: fistbump for Zev/Brosca art. I can really feel a sense that their relationship has passed beyond the "one day at a time" stage and into love as an established couple - too cute.



@Halae Dral: You can feel Zev saying good-bye, not just to Taliesen, but to the last tie to his past -so sad. And I agree with Caridounette, the Warden in the background adds so much to the scene, just based on posture.



@Corker: Bingo (although the Crows were taking advantage of a previously planned assignation in Kamina's case). Several other higher ranking members of House Alanza were eliminated in various ways prior to the assault on their home base. Also, sympathize with you on the not sleeping toddler- I had that problem quite a bit last year when my husband was traveling for work (of course he gets stuck with the kids when I am on call).

[jenovan]

Lots of fascinating and some heart-wrenching stuff this time around, guys   (Mine's going to feel so prosaic if I get time to do it... XD; )


While I'm thinking about it, wanted to bring a thread "policy" question up for you all (if we can really be said to have a policy .   Are people all right with having replies to the prompt that come up after the contest is over added to the list of replies as non-entries?

I think most of us have probably been in the position where a prompt gives us an awesome idea but we just can't get to it before the deadline... but we want to write it anyway.    Since it's technically a response to the prompt, it seems appropriate to list it that way, IMO; but I view prompts more as a tool to promote writing (quick or slow, timed or not) than a means to competition.   That is just, of course, my opinion.     What do you all think, and are there any objections to non-entries being added/posted after the contest ends?



Edit:  (knew I forgot something..)
@caridounette - thanks!   payroo gave me permission to use her lovely drawing to make an icon for Alessar.  Her rendition of his short hair is much better than in-game.

Modifié par jenovan, 07 septembre 2010 - 04:21 .

[ICevoL]

jenovan wrote...

Lots of fascinating and some heart-wrenching stuff this time around, guys   (Mine's going to feel so prosaic if I get time to do it... XD; )


While I'm thinking about it, wanted to bring a thread "policy" question up for you all (if we can really be said to have a policy .   Are people all right with having replies to the prompt that come up after the contest is over added to the list of replies as non-entries?

I think most of us have probably been in the position where a prompt gives us an awesome idea but we just can't get to it before the deadline... but we want to write it anyway.    Since it's technically a response to the prompt, it seems appropriate to list it that way, IMO; but I view prompts more as a tool to promote writing (quick or slow, timed or not) than a means to competition.   That is just, of course, my opinion.     What do you all think, and are there any objections to non-entries being added/posted after the contest ends?

I agree with you, jenovan.  Even if past-deadline (and also "it took too long") entries aren't "official" per se, they are responses to the given prompt and I don't see why they shouldn't be listed so people can find them easily.  Creativity is all to the good, IMO.

(And I hope you finish your entry, regardless of timing -- I'd love to see what you've come up with for this, and I seriously doubt the word "prosaic" will apply )

[Corker]

My two bits:

The thread is clearly fanfic/fanart friendly. I'd say post what you like, as long as it's on-topic and not *too* long. I'm not sure what *too* long is, precisely, but the hour-to-write pieces so far are a nice length. Much longer and I'd start thinking about posting it to Community Creations and then linking.

As far as listing non-competitive replies in a prompt-reply list... sure, why not? It's a prompt-reply list, not a list of the competitors. I would hate to read/see a really nifty fill, go about my business, then want to find it a few weeks later and have no idea where it was. And the search engine here is lousy.

[TanithAeyrs]

jenovan wrote...

While I'm thinking about it, wanted to bring a thread "policy" question up for you all (if we can really be said to have a policy .   Are people all right with having replies to the prompt that come up after the contest is over added to the list of replies as non-entries?

I think most of us have probably been in the position where a prompt gives us an awesome idea but we just can't get to it before the deadline... but we want to write it anyway.    Since it's technically a response to the prompt, it seems appropriate to list it that way, IMO; but I view prompts more as a tool to promote writing (quick or slow, timed or not) than a means to competition.   That is just, of course, my opinion.     What do you all think, and are there any objections to non-entries being added/posted after the contest ends?

I think the prompts are a great way to stimulate creativity, I would rather see a late non-entry than have someone miss out on the chance to challenge their writing skills.  It's not really about the contest for me anyway - I'm with you Jenovan- I enjoy writing things that challenge me.

I agree with what Corker said about keeping the non-entries in the list - I would never find them again if they weren't there and most of them are too good to just get buried in the thread.

Modifié par TanithAeyrs, 07 septembre 2010 - 04:32 .

[jenovan]

@Corker, good point about length -- now I'm mildly curious about what the average hour-long text is, but they're manageable. Beyond that, yes, maybe time for a link to the Community Creations forum, one's blog, LJ, or so on. (We'll go see it! We like to read! XD)



@non-entries and so on: that's the nice thing about the "awesome stuff" list, it is/was a great signpost/archive for a long thread. XD (I had probably better go back through the thread before it gets too long to catch non-contest stuff..)

[Sarah1281]

I know that if I'm properly inspired I can usually do 1200 words in an hour. If I'm not, of course, then I'll get a lot less out...

[TanithAeyrs]

Wow, Sarah, I guess I'm a really slow writer. My first submission for the weekly contests was a meager 440 words, I thought my latest was pretty long at almost 900. I confess that if I don't have a time limit I'll agonize over a paragraph for 2 hours sometimes, if the muse is flowing I can knock out a 3000 words in 5 or 6 hours. I'm hoping that the hour limit on the contests will improve my productivity in my other writing. For me it seems to be a trade off though, my best sections are usually written when the muse is flowing, then improved with massive editing - so another time sink.

[ICevoL]

@jenovan -- I just checked the 3 entries I've done, and they're all 1000-1100 words, if that helps



@TanithAeyrs -- I've been doing the same thing with the contests; trying to increase speed overall. That said, I have some serious OCD issues on the editing side, so even with speeding up the word count initially, I end up spending a bunch of time editing on non-contest stories (I usually save the last 10 minutes of promt time for editing, too *g*)

[TanithAeyrs]

@ICevol: yeah I set the timer for 50 minutes to leave 10 minutes for editing. I think the first prompt only gave us 45 minutes so I guess I don't feel quite as bad about my meager 400+ words. Also, when I edit I tend to trim alot (my main story usually loses about 500 words per chapter before I send it to my betas). I don't dump near as much in the contests due to lack of time, but I still trim alot.

[ejoslin]

 Ok, not nearly as interesting as all the creative things going on here (and seriously, gah, you folks are so talented), but I'm playing with FRAPS again.  I put up the talk Zevran has with the HNF if she's marrying Alistair for political reasons (it's very similar to the male version) but has not had sex with him.  It's a little different from the royal scandal talk, and in some ways sweeter.  This warden is not going to have a happy ending I'm afraid  She's a slave to duty, and Zevran is going to have to go back to Antiva eventually.

[wildannie]

 @ejoslin, ... I love seeing all the Zev dialog that i've never seen in my playthroughs, I've never managed to complete a Human Noble that far.  I love how he pretends to be blaise about it when he's clearly cut up.

I think I've caught up with all the entries now...

@caridounette - nice one - I'd never even thought about the looting of talisens body and how insensitive it was to Zev... i'm so thoughtless!  

@TanithAeyers - Wow, that's the darkest portrayal of Zev I've seen - it vividly brings home the coldness of his life with the crows.

@Hilde - Anora! I knew she was up to more than we knew! Howe would surely have double crossed her if he'd survived.  I also love how there's an instant mutual attraction between Z and your Warden... that's what happend to Ainan too:wub:

@Minaleth - Alway's nice to see Vaughan get it in the guts - he's a bad bad man!

@Kornichon - very funny, roach looks so surprised... maybe Zev was using stealth! 

@Shadow of Light Dragon - This is quite dark and unsettling, the poor boy... not sure if I like the trophy thing for my own imaginings of Zev (earring aside) but I love the story, it's got a really interesting angle.

@Halae Dral - Really nice drawing... your doing a lot better with 1hour than I am!  

....Oh and @TortoroTori - what a beautiful picture - it's really charming.

[Remmirath]

Okay, I've actually had sleep now and can focus on stuff. Much better. XD

@Corker - I really like that story. It is alternate, but it fits very well.
Also, thanks! I entirely avoided drawing backgrounds for a long time, so I've been trying to make myself do them more often now. (And it's always struck me as slightly odd how many chests you find in back alley ambush points...)

@Sarah1281 - That was a great take on that story. I always like seeing people's takes on things like that.

@wildannie - The emotion is very obvious there. I like the way only the blood and his hair are coloured.
Also, thanks! I tend to be fast at drawing. I've actually been trying to slow down, because I think I tend to get impatient and rush things. So, speed's not always a good thing in this case.  

@caridounette - I like the way you dealt with the whole looting everything in sight issue with that. Sometimes it makes sense, and other times... not so much. (If you think about it, the idea of killing someone and then immediately stripping them of everything valuable - including the skin for some animals - is a bit odd.) 
And thanks! I wasn't sure if that would work out.

@TanithAeyrs - I like that. Two rather different styles of assassination there, and I like the way you describe both of them.
Also, thanks! 

@Hilde - Interesting take on the scheming going on in the palace. I never got the impression that Anora and Howe were really in league, but if they were, I could see something like this happening.

@Minaleth - I love the expressions, and it's always nice seeing Vaughan die. XD

@Kornichon - I'm not sure there's anybody who actually liked the underwear in the game, and those are some good ninja skills he's got there. XD

@Shadow of Light Dragon - That was very good, and sad. I like your take on what sort of items might end up in the belt, too.
Also, thanks! I'm glad you could tell. I was kind of worried it wouldn't be obvious.

@TotoroTori - I really like the way you did the faces on that one. Especially the dwarf.

Sarah1281 wrote...

There's always the possibility that
the sword got stolen pretty quickly before you left Amaranthine or it
got stolen during the process of conquering the Crows and then they
lost it so you couldn't get it back.

That's what I thought happened, that it got stolen before you even left Amaranthine. Then that whole 'switching hands all over the place' deal would mean you wouldn't be able to get it back. (And I won't be too surprised if it shows up in the next game, or some other game down the road.) 

[ejoslin]

 I did some more playing with FRAPS.  This time the "Royal Scandal" talk.  Hahahaha, and the suggested videos on this page -- when flags go WRONG!  Only two lines are different.  And yes, he sounds torn up in this one as well, and trying to cover it.  I may put up the breakup that can go along with this one -- but it's horrible.  He's so sweet and loving and kind -- he completely gets why the warden would dump him for the chance to be queen/king and does his best to make him/her feel better.  I chose that response once without thinking and felt like crap for hours afterwards!