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ejoslin wrote...

Unfortunately, I don't think it would be. It's not so much changing the animations (though that in and of itself would be some work) as it is, those conversations can trigger anywhere, and you don't want to sit down in the middle of the deeproads or wherever to start a conversation.

It's a good idea, and maybe someone more talented than I can see way to do it, but I can't :(


I think you could do it by duplicating the conversations and setting one as only triggered in camp with the new animation while leave the other as-is.  But it would be getting into piles of conditionals for each one.  
If in camp, if convo x hasn't already triggered so you can't get the same conversation in and out of camp, if whatever else was already flagged, etc etc.
Hm... or you could change them all to only trigger in camp, but that would really limit what Zevran can say when you're out and about.  That would certanly be the easiest solution, though.  Just drag them all to fall under the 'if: in camp:' section.

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oh thanks anyhow! im always curious of what can and cant be done.

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LupusYondergirl wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Unfortunately, I don't think it would be. It's not so much changing the animations (though that in and of itself would be some work) as it is, those conversations can trigger anywhere, and you don't want to sit down in the middle of the deeproads or wherever to start a conversation.

It's a good idea, and maybe someone more talented than I can see way to do it, but I can't :(


I think you could do it by duplicating the conversations and setting one as only triggered in camp with the new animation while leave the other as-is.  But it would be getting into piles of conditionals for each one.  
If in camp, if convo x hasn't already triggered so you can't get the same conversation in and out of camp, if whatever else was already flagged, etc etc.
Hm... or you could change them all to only trigger in camp, but that would really limit what Zevran can say when you're out and about.  That would certanly be the easiest solution, though.  Just drag them all to fall under the 'if: in camp:' section.


You'd have to rebuild the sound files if you duplicate.  I suppose making the flags wouldn't be too bad, but just rebuilding the sound files...  They never quite cooperate with me.  The flags would just be a matter of having them set at the end of each conversation then having the front end trigger appear only if that flag isn't set which isn't confusing, except, of course, there are a couple that already have conditions at the beginning.  *grin* Zevran doesn't have an "IF:In Camp section -- though it would be easy enough to make (I handled fixing his royal scandal dialog at the script level).  But conversation with him only in camp wouldn't be good!

Yeh, yeh, I'm naysaying!

In other news, I am working on a new male elf kiss by request.  It's based on the alternative dwarf kiss.  Hopefully I'll have it done tonight!

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Yay for end of school weeks!   So I am sitting here with a full glass of wine and am totally ready to review these fantastic stories/pieces of art….Apologies if I missed anyone!  Oh, and if in the course of reading I saw something else I wanted to comment on, I added it in parentheses…hopefully it isn’t too confusing!

@ Soignee  Aww!  How nice! I’ve heard your “Missa” being referenced so many times…it was nice to finally read a part that makes me realize why she is so well adored by ff readers!     It is definitely on my list of things to read -  oh, and I love your picture too – one can tell by Zev’s posture that she took him by surprise and has yet to react.  J

@ Corker – Loverly!  You really got all the characters down pat – I could literally hear their voice in my head while reading, which is not something I get while reading a lot of FF, to be honest.  Oghren was *hilarious* (Ooooh…I hadn’t even thought of having Tori being a disguise for Zev….!  I likeys!)

@ Payroo – Yes for Zevran and Taliesin!  I love how you were able to make Zev still look like himself…only younger.  I love Zev’s expression as well.  The little backstory was most enjoyed as well, and definitely added to the picture.  (PS - *Chase*!!   I knew it started with a “C”, but for some odd reason I was stuck on “Casey”  Thanks for clearing that up for me….:))

@ Hilde  - OMG – your Auryn sounds like *quite* the fascinating character!  I really enjoyed how you set it up too,
because that’s how I always imagine Zev’s first weeks or so with the party, basically being shunned by the rest of the group…except for the one who saved him (and good soul Leliana of course…J)  I’ll admit that I was actually pleasantly surprised by Auryn’s action as you framed her as kinda innocent in her actions with Alistair…but she is apparently anything but! 


@Shadow – Loved your Oghren as well!  I really enjoyed how you set this up – I was totally thinking they were going to duel….only to find out that that was most definitely not the case!  Poor (or should I say lucky?) Ferrix!!  Kudos for it being all the boys too in on the betting too, while I am sure the women-folk were doing something much more productive.  Dem crazy boys!

@Maradeux – Ummm….first kisses nekkid in the water *rock*!!  I also really liked the childhood first kiss too…the idea of the laboratory and everything…very creative! 

@Wildannie – Aww- the sweet side of Zevran!  I liked how you worked in his knowledge of potions and everything…I’m thinking that the sleeping draught he made might have been a weaker version of a potion he knew. ;)

@Caridounette – Oooh…I loved the quick little shots we got of different wardens getting their Zev love!  I think I liked Darriel’s the best…if only because of the description of the kiss and the banter between the two.  All are well done, though!  Nikky comes in at a close second, only because she sounds ridiculously awesome, and it’s refreshing to read about a warden who knows what she wants.  :lol:

@Frostajulie – Loved this one!  I loved how you introduced us with the lyrium, and also ended on that note – it really tied the whole story together.  Also- loved the inclusion of the failed romance with Alistair…and not only that but having her relations with the other party members be so sour!  Poor Antiva!  I really liked how you were able to flesh out her character so well in just 60 minutes….congrats on writing such a great first piece of fanfiction!

@Ejoslin – Hahah.  I love how all during this prompt you have kiss mods being finished or tweaked…the timing is too amusing! (BTW – looooved your FAQ that you made regarding Zevran.  Thanks for making it. :lol:)

@Sarah – Well done on getting Zev’s voice and personality down!  I loved that last little paragraph where Zev gives his feelings on why he didn’t want to chat it up with Alistair for so long…and the ending line  really makes one wonder…Hmmmm… (And yes, that House episode that you summarized was totally part of my inspiration…;))

And my glass is gone. Oh well.  Time to fill it back up and to work on my new chapter!  Huzzah for 3-day weekends!
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Modifié par FutileSine, 01 octobre 2010 - 02:42 .


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 *grin* I have to admit, I have been VERY inspired by the stories here.  I made one more kiss per a request -- an elf male one.  It's based on the passionate dwarf one with a few tweaks.

Edit: Gah, I'm so glad you found the faq useful.  It's such a beautiful story.

Modifié par ejoslin, 01 octobre 2010 - 01:29 .


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 @futile  thanks alot! i love how my 3 Zev/Warden turned out :)  Nikky the casless was a very diffrent playthrough then the others... she was alto like Zevran in some ways and they didnt fall in love until much later in the game... just playing a round in the tent :whistle:.  When the Talissen encounter happened, she was so surprised he didnt pull a Leske  on her ! Thats when it really start for them...

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@ ejoslin: *DOWNLOADS FURIOUSLY*



@ Sarah: Hahaha, even when Zev's not being romanced I love it when he plays the role of adviser!

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caridounette wrote...

 @futile  thanks alot! i love how my 3 Zev/Warden turned out :)  Nikky the casless was a very diffrent playthrough then the others... she was alto like Zevran in some ways and they didnt fall in love until much later in the game... just playing a round in the tent :whistle:.  When the Talissen encounter happened, she was so surprised he didnt pull a Leske  on her ! Thats when it really start for them...


Ooooops!  I just realized I *totally* misspelt your name....umm....it was the wine typing??  Hahah.  I apparently just saw that "car" and associated it with the one handle I remembered...At least you knew I was talking about your story!!  My bad....:blush:

Aww....you know, that whole story idea is pretty awesome- I like the idea of Nikky being so hesitant, just like Zev, to actually progress beyond anything purely physical.  Definitely fits with the whole casteless thing.  

*quietly goes up to previous message to edit name*

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 haha no problem Futile... its a french word so im used to the misspell :P

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 /pokes head in...  MORE kiss spam from me!  This time it's a human female passionate kiss (it should look a little familiar by now).  My goal is 3 choices of kiss per gender/race.  Human male may be a bit tough :/  I probably will just mess with camera angles.

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 Wow, it's been quiet today!  Well, I made another kiss.  This one is a sweet kiss between Zevran and a Dwarf.  Last on my list is a passionate kiss between Zevran and a Human Male, but bleh, stupid height difference :/

Edit: Gah, I uploaded the wrong FRAPS (there's weirdness in the facial expressions in the one I uploaded first.  I fixed the link, and it goes to the correct now now.

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What is the difficulty with making a LI kneel to kiss a dwarf anyway?



I used a pretty basic 3d modeling program in high school, but all I had to do was manipulate a model to kneel which was fairly easy.

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It's not difficult -- there are a couple of kneel animations available, though most of the kiss animations (not all) have motion involved which makes it trickier. But Zevran, really, the height between him and a dwarf is such that the kneel is a bit much (though I leave it in in the passionate kiss) The height difference between Zevran and a Dwarf looks like the same between my husband and myself. With this last kiss, I tried to use camera angles to give an illusion of the height difference.

Modifié par ejoslin, 01 octobre 2010 - 05:09 .


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ejoslin wrote...

 /pokes head in...  MORE kiss spam from me!  This time it's a human female passionate kiss (it should look a little familiar by now).  My goal is 3 choices of kiss per gender/race.  Human male may be a bit tough :/  I probably will just mess with camera angles.

If I could find a way to send cookies via the internet you would have a whole plate of them right now.  Really good ones.

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MMMMMM! Cookies! Yay! I'm glad you like the kiss :D

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Prompt: First Kiss
This one is wide open, guys ;)  Only rule is that it has to involve Zevran somehow.  Interpret as you will!

Time: 1 hour


I tried doing the literal first kiss, but Keiran was being a huge dork about it. So you get this instead. Symbolic first kisses count, right? [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/uncertain.png[/smilie] 55ish minutes all together.


Don't ask me why I wrote poetry. My muse works in strange ways...

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In the streets of Antiva, that's where I found you.
Alone, surrounded by Crows.

You notice me.
Our eyes meet across the crowd.

Your expression barely changes, but recognition and relief is what I see.
Took you long enough to get here, amora.

We need say nothing. Even after all these months apart, we know what the other is thinking.
I got caught up in Amaranthine. I got away as soon as I could.

The Crows finally notice me. They realize Zevran isn't alone.
What they don't realize is that as long as I draw breath he is never truly alone.

The battle begins.
With axe and sword I fight my way to you and we stand back to back.

I feel an arrow pass close to my cheek. Archers.
In a flash, I draw my own bow and the first archer falls from the roof with a strangled cry.

Your blades whirl in a blur, protecting me while I shoot down the archers.
It's so familiar... it's as if we were never parted.

Soon enough... it is over. We are wounded, but alive.
The same cannot be said of the Crows; the street runs red with their blood.

The longing I see in your eyes matches what I feel in my own heart.
Surrounded by death, still holding daggers and bow, we kiss for the first time in months.

It is full of promise.
I missed you.

A promise for a future together.
I missed you too.

A promise to never be parted for so long ever again.
I love you, Zevran.

We pull apart rather quickly. We are too exposed here.
I know.

You grab my hand and pull me towards the nearest alley.
We need to disappear if we want a proper reunion.

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Went back and read the other entries...

@soignee: I just love your art style

@corker: Your works always crack me up.

@payroo: Love it! Zev looks very mischievous. :3

@hilde: Very nice story once again! Poor Alistair is in over his head... and Zevran too from the looks of it!

@shadow: That was hilarious!

@caridounette: Very cool idea, showing the different Wardens' first kiss experiences.

@kornichon: I lol'd. Zev got out of there just in time!

@frostajulie: Very interesting concept with the lyrium abuse.

@sarah: Zevran is spot on. I liked his reasoning for leaving Alistair alone and going after someone else.

I hope I didn't miss anyone. If I did, I apologize!

@ejoslin: Wow @ those kisses. I don't even know which to put in my game; they are all so good! Keiran and I both approve! :wub:

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I'll just... leave this here.  It's boring and short, but whatevs.  Nations and Ages Chapter 6

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Korina1982 wrote...

I tried doing the literal first kiss, but Keiran was being a huge dork about it. So you get this instead. Symbolic first kisses count, right? [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/uncertain.png[/smilie] 55ish minutes all together.




You seriously, SERIOUSLY just saved the Awakening ending for me.  I absolutely love this -- it fits, and is so much better than the way I saw it.

It's beautiful too...

Edit: my flags were dangling!

Second edit: Because I can't post them enough, the proper link to my Zevran Dwarf Tender Kiss.

Modifié par ejoslin, 01 octobre 2010 - 07:21 .


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Tellervo wrote...

I'll just... leave this here.  It's boring and short, but whatevs totally awesome.  Nations and Ages Chapter 6

Fixed it for you. B)


I'm loving all the output from this prompt! XD (And hooray for poetry! X3) I am saving my detailed commentary for the wrap-up, though :x

I couldn't resist a bit of non-entry participation myself, so here's another sort of first kiss. An hour's worth of writing, but (since it doesn't count anyway) I took a bit more time to edit.


Across the Threshold


Zevran had not left Alessar's bedside for more than a few minutes at a time for two days now. The elven Warden had been rendered unconscious after delivering the killing blow against the Archdemon, and no one was sure what to do for him. His injuries had been healed, but Wynne and First Enchanter Irving suspected that something magical was at work, and that Alessar's tainted physiology had left him vulnerable to some strange after-effects from the massive explosion of energy when the Archdemon had perished.

Alistair had only been out for a few hours, and now seemed fine; if Alessar's problem stemmed from the darkspawn taint that they both shared, why was he still unconscious? Irving theorized that it was because he had been at the center of the blast, but no one truly knew. Historically, Wardens did not survive these things; there was no precedent.

Morrigan said that Alessar would survive, but she did not say in what condition, Zevran thought grimly. The witch had disappeared after the Archdemon had fallen, and now he -- the only one besides Alessar who knew of the ritual -- could not ask her if this was to be expected or not.

What sort of "life" would this be, spent unconscious? the assassin thought. Would he want to live like this? The two elves had never discussed such things, more worried about day-to-day survival than the unknowns of the future, but the idea of Alessar languishing in this state was painful.

But for now, Zevran would wait. Perhaps this truly was something that could be shaken off, and it would simply be a matter of time. Holding on to that hope, he had stayed by the Warden's side, quietly telling him stories of his career as a Crow, or of what the rest of their companions were doing, or how Alistair and Anora seemed to be getting along. He held a half-hearted hope that the sound of his voice might break through whatever shrouded Alessar's mind, but so far, it had not helped. Nor had gentle caresses or deep massage, smelling salts or invigorating oils. The Warden remained completely unresponsive to everything his concerned friends had tried.

It was nearly midnight on the second night, and the Antivan elf's eyes burned with exhaustion. He had snatched moments of sleep in the past two days, a handful of minutes here and there, but he couldn't last much longer that way, he knew. If Alessar woke, though, he wanted to be there, to see it, in case the other elf needed something -- even if that something was just his presence.

Or perhaps that's a bit vain of me, hmm? the assassin thought with a sardonic smile. Maybe the first one he'd want to see upon waking is Ovden. Regardless, he'd give anything to see Alessar's blue eyes open, alert and aware.

To keep himself awake, Zevran began to sing softly, a mournful Orlesian ballad about a love affair coming to an end. His Orlesian pronunciation wasn't the best, but of course, there was no one here to correct him. As he sang, he took one of Alessar's hands in his own and idly traced the lines on his palm.

"Sommes-nous les jouets du destin...? Souviens-toi des moments divins..." Perhaps singing such an unhappy song wasn't the best idea, but he'd always liked the tune, and it wasn't as if Alessar would understand it, even if he heard it. The elven Warden had certainly heard the melody before, because it was one of Zevran's favorites, but the assassin had never shared the lyrics, and Alessar had never asked.

He began to relax, his eyes drifting half-shut as the melancholy verses fell from his lips without conscious thought, but suddenly he felt a twitch from Alessar's hand, and he snapped into full alertness.

"Alessar?" he said softly, leaning close. The other elf's eyelids twitched. "He estado esperando, cielo mío."

The Warden groaned softly, and his hand closed around Zevran's. "Are you..." he croaked weakly, eyes still shut.

"Am I what, querido?" Zevran could feel his own heart racing. He wasn't sure he'd ever felt such relief in his entire life.

"Are you... alive? Am I...?" Now Alessar's eyes slowly opened, and he spent a moment rubbing them gingerly with his free hand before looking up at the assassin with that clear blue gaze. "Is this... real?"

Zevran laughed, his voice sounding high and strained in his own ears. Had his Warden come through this sound in mind as well as in body? "Of course it's real, cielo. Why wouldn't it be?"

"I... I don't know, I just... I don't remember," the other elf said slowly. He seemed lost in thought for a moment, but then he suddenly looked up sharply. "The Archdemon--! It's... it's over, isn't it?" His eyes pleaded for it to be true.

Fortunately, Zevran wouldn't have to lie, and he finally let himself smile. "Yes, it's over, querido. You finished it." The Warden looked at him in silence, as if he had trouble believing it; Zevran's reply was to lean close and kiss him gently, lingeringly, to prove that this, at least, was real and true.

"Welcome to the world after the Blight, cielo," he whispered as he pulled away. He was rewarded with a tired, but genuine, smile.

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(Zevran's bit of song is from "Protège moi" by Placebo. :3)

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ejoslin wrote...

 *grin* I have to admit, I have been VERY inspired by the stories here.  I made one more kiss per a request -- an elf male one.  It's based on the passionate dwarf one with a few tweaks.

Edit: Gah, I'm so glad you found the faq useful.  It's such a beautiful story.


Ffffffffffffffffff-- I'm going to have to remake Tannusen in-game again, aren't I?

That was, um, :wub: yeah.

Modifié par Aroihkin, 01 octobre 2010 - 09:00 .


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ejoslin wrote...

You seriously, SERIOUSLY just saved the Awakening ending for me.  I absolutely love this -- it fits, and is so much better than the way I saw it.

It's beautiful too...

Edit: my flags were dangling!

Second edit: Because I can't post them enough, the proper link to my Zevran Dwarf Tender Kiss.


Wow, thanks!  [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie] I prefer to stretch the bounds of the canon to make it fit my Warden if possible, instead of saying "screw you, canon" (although I've done that too :devil:). I'm glad you liked it.

Modifié par Korina1982, 01 octobre 2010 - 09:24 .


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ejoslin wrote...

 *grin* I have to admit, I have been VERY inspired by the stories here.  I made one more kiss per a request -- an elf male one.  It's based on the passionate dwarf one with a few tweaks.

I must have missed this last night dealing with a leaky roof, but now that I can finally watch it... :wub:<3:wub:
That is faaantastic!  Both the kiss itself (o mai is it hot in here?) and the camera work :D

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So those kisses are awesome especially the passionate human one. Did you say I could get those into my game?

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frostajulie, you can, but right now you have to do it manually. I'm fighting with my toolset right now to have random kisses if you use dialog tweaks/zevring. Unfortunately, my toolset is being BAD :(