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@Halae Dral - nice description of the card game scene :D

@soignee - already commented in your blog - I really like the lone wolf metaphor. Very well written. :)

@Jenovan and Hilde - I don't care about "failed time" - your stories are both worth every time the needed. Very enjoyable reading. :)

@wildannie - so cute how he holds the wolf in his arms. :)

@tankgirly - sweet picture - it would have been perfect for the "first kiss" competition last week. :)

*lol* page top again - and because it's such a beautiful picture - here is Payroo's competition entry for this week once more:
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Saw a short movie tonight (Sintel, 15 min animated fantasy, worth watching IMO) and the credits song for some reason made me think of Zevran post US. :/

Link to just the music:

I Move On (Sintel's Song)

Come take my journey into night
Come be my shadow, walk at my side
And when you see all that i have seen
Can you tell me love from pride?

I have been waiting all this time
For one to wake me, one to call mine
So when you´re near all that you hold dear
Do you fear what you will find?

As the dawn breaks through the night
I move on forever longing for the home
I found in your eyes.

I will be listening for the drum
To call me over, far away from
My tender youth and the very truth
Showing me what I've become.

As the dawn breaks through the night
I move on forever longing for the home
I found in your eyes
Your voice saw me through the night.

Modifié par Shadow of Light Dragon, 06 octobre 2010 - 10:52 .


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Are there any mods that let you start a romance with Zevran even if you have already shut the door? I never romance him, only once have i done it all the way through. I'm halfway through a playthrough, and roleplay wise, my character suddenly started thinking she's been barking up the wrong tree, but that door was shut so tight so many times, there's apparently no going back. Kinda lame you can't just change your mind.

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I stand to lose about 6 hours of playtime in order to get back to a save where he's open to it u.u

Modifié par Aisynia, 06 octobre 2010 - 11:16 .


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@Shadow - what a beautiful, but sad little movie! (and it even had German subtitles *lol*) And you are right about the song - could be about Zevran, too. :crying:



@Aisynia - unfortunately I can't help you. :( I only know one situation when you (sometimes) have the chance to get the romance back - after the Taliesen encounter, if you choose the option "more than friends" in his "thank you" dialogue. Maybe Ejoslin could help you, but I guess she is still sleeping. ;)

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Thanks for the reply.



Will that come up even without the romance?



Good thing is, those 6 hours were screwing around with side quests. I'm willing to do it all over, because it was fun (and I've played this game over 30 times), I just hate to think that I suddenly had a change of heart and then it's on the ONE playthrough where I close the romance off. In every other playthrough, I leave it open, just in case. Go fig.

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Aisynia wrote...

Will that come up even without the romance?


Yes, it is thought as a romance starter. But sometimes the option is missing. I can't really say what's the reason. I hope it works for you. :)

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I think I'm just gonna rewind. I've looked all over, I don't see a mod for this. I'm always williong to build my own mods, but I don't understand enough about the dialogue system to bother. Won't be the first time I've done such a thing.



I appreciate you replying <3 <3 <3

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maradeux wrote...

This seems to be the week of silly poems for me. :P So - here is my entry: Zevran's thoughts about the specializations he would like to learn (or not). I needed about 50 minutes and it is a premier: the first poem I wrote directly in English (alright, there is one French/Italian/Spanish - its in all these languages the same -  adjective included, but I hope it is common enough to understand :D) - so it's not a translation this time. ;)


:lol: I love your poem.  I think writing prose in a foreign language would be hard enough, I can't imagine trying poetry.  

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Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

Saw a short movie tonight (Sintel, 15 min animated fantasy, worth watching IMO) 


yeah and it made me cry. MADE ME CRY. I saw this a few days back and wept like a child. D:

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soignee wrote...

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

Saw a short movie tonight (Sintel, 15 min animated fantasy, worth watching IMO) 


yeah and it made me cry. MADE ME CRY. I saw this a few days back and wept like a child. D:


Same here, both times I watched it. It was beautiful and tragic.

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Aisynia wrote...

I think I'm just gonna rewind. I've looked all over, I don't see a mod for this. I'm always williong to build my own mods, but I don't understand enough about the dialogue system to bother. Won't be the first time I've done such a thing.

I appreciate you replying <3 <3 <3


You can restart the romance with console commands, but that's it.  There's only two circumstances where you may be able to restart the romance with Zevran and one is a bug.  First is (bug) if Alistair forces you to choose between him and Zevran (has to be Alistair forcing the choice).  The wrong flag gets set (instead of romance_cut_off it gets romance_ended_cannot_be_restarted which doesn't work).  The other is if you break up with him while he's still in love -- he gets the "still in love" flag instead of the "romance cut off" flag.  

However, if you have gone through all his dialog, it doesn't really matter.  You have one more chance to start it late game IF it's not cut off.

Leliana is kind of the same way, but she has a bugged conversation that restarts it with everyone.  Alistair is definitely the same way -- if you break up with him or shoot him down, no second chances.

Anyway, making a mod to do it would be very easy, but would conflict with all the major Zevran mods.  All you'd have to do is add another romance starter line I suppose and have it clear the romance cut off flag and start the romance.  However, that would always be visible.  Or even easier, have the "do you stare at everyone like that" be visible all the time instead of just at romance not active not cut off and make sure the romance cut off flag is cleared somewhere in the conversation.

Console is easiest.  You can find directions here.

Edit: I think Morrigan is the only character where you are meant to be able to restart a completely shut down romance.

Modifié par ejoslin, 06 octobre 2010 - 11:59 .


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ejoslin wrote...

Aisynia wrote...

I think I'm just gonna rewind. I've looked all over, I don't see a mod for this. I'm always williong to build my own mods, but I don't understand enough about the dialogue system to bother. Won't be the first time I've done such a thing.

I appreciate you replying <3 <3 <3


You can restart the romance with console commands, but that's it.  There's only two circumstances where you may be able to restart the romance with Zevran and one is a bug.  First is (bug) if Alistair forces you to choose between him and Zevran (has to be Alistair forcing the choice).  The wrong flag gets set (instead of romance_cut_off it gets romance_ended_cannot_be_restarted which doesn't work).  The other is if you break up with him while he's still in love -- he gets the "still in love" flag instead of the "romance cut off" flag.  

However, if you have gone through all his dialog, it doesn't really matter.  You have one more chance to start it late game IF it's not cut off.

Leliana is kind of the same way, but she has a bugged conversation that restarts it with everyone.  Alistair is definitely the same way -- if you break up with him or shoot him down, no second chances.

Anyway, making a mod to do it would be very easy, but would conflict with all the major Zevran mods.  All you'd have to do is add another romance starter line I suppose and have it clear the romance cut off flag and start the romance.  However, that would always be visible.  Or even easier, have the "do you stare at everyone like that" be visible all the time instead of just at romance not active not cut off and make sure the romance cut off flag is cleared somewhere in the conversation.

Console is easiest.  You can find directions here.

Edit: I think Morrigan is the only character where you are meant to be able to restart a completely shut down romance.


Thankiies thankies so much ^_^ I am so appreciative. It's funny, I changed rom,ance flag, and it's as if I told him pretty much the opposite of what I really had :P Short of spending 4-6 hours redoing content, I'd say it's more than adequate lol.

<3 <3 <3

*excited*

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maradeux: Yeah, some of those other options aren't very practical. Fortunately, Zevran's so good at what he does that he really doesn't NEED any of that other stuff.



Are there any mods that let you start a romance with Zevran even if you have already shut the door? I never romance him, only once have i done it all the way through. I'm halfway through a playthrough, and roleplay wise, my character suddenly started thinking she's been barking up the wrong tree, but that door was shut so tight so many times, there's apparently no going back. Kinda lame you can't just change your mind.

Can you blame him? If you've gone out of your way to shoot him down so many times than sooner or later he's going to get the picture and perhaps lose interest.

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maradeux wrote...

Aisynia wrote...

Will that come up even without the romance?


Yes, it is thought as a romance starter. But sometimes the option is missing. I can't really say what's the reason. I hope it works for you. :)


*grin* I can answer this!  There's a flag, "romance_cut_off" that cannot be set in order for that line to show.  This flag is set for most breakups, and also if you let him know straight out that you're not interested.  Anyway, that line only shows up if the romance is not cut off.  I actually make it show up in a more limited way in my mods -- the romance cannot be cut off and the romance cannot be active, but I add another line for if the romance is active that leads to the friendship dialog.  The reason I did this was I saw the friendship dialog my first game, remembered it, then never saw it again as he was always my LI at that point.  But it's amazingly moving.  Plus, his reaction when you tell him he's more than a friend is really REALLY weird if you're in a romance with him rather than starting a romance with him.  I mean, you've probably been his lover for months, why would he be so surprised that you think of him as more than a friend?  But what Zevran LI fan would pick any line OTHER than that?

Ooooh, I"m so wordy!

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Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

Saw a short movie tonight (Sintel, 15 min animated fantasy, worth watching IMO) and the credits song for some reason made me think of Zevran post US. :/

Link to just the music:

I Move On (Sintel's Song)

Come take my journey into night
Come be my shadow, walk at my side
And when you see all that i have seen
Can you tell me love from pride?

I have been waiting all this time
For one to wake me, one to call mine
So when you´re near all that you hold dear
Do you fear what you will find?

As the dawn breaks through the night
I move on forever longing for the home
I found in your eyes.

I will be listening for the drum
To call me over, far away from
My tender youth and the very truth
Showing me what I've become.

As the dawn breaks through the night
I move on forever longing for the home
I found in your eyes
Your voice saw me through the night.



I agree, This fix Zev to the Tee.  It is beuatiful.

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Aisynia wrote...

Are there any mods that let you start a romance with Zevran even if you have already shut the door? I never romance him, only once have i done it all the way through. I'm halfway through a playthrough, and roleplay wise, my character suddenly started thinking she's been barking up the wrong tree, but that door was shut so tight so many times, there's apparently no going back. Kinda lame you can't just change your mind.


Drive by posting...

There is a mod on DA Nexus called MetaGame Items that includes something called...

"Love Potion No.9 - Romanceable followers only
With the Love Potion it is not only possible but very easy to romance multiple companions. --Now sets romance active no matter the circumstances."

Here's a link -> http://dragonagenexu.../file.php?id=13

/re-lurks (since I don't have time for more catch-up just now)

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I'm still working on kisses -- I neglected the human males terribly. Anyway, I reworked one, and made a third which will now trigger. I have an update file up at DANexus. I'll put up versions with the updated kisses everywhere soon enough. Waiting on youtube to finish uploading. When it does, I'll link the videos.

Sorry for taking so long, human males :(

Edit 1:  Alternative Human Male Kiss 

Edit 2: Passionate Human Male Kiss

Modifié par ejoslin, 06 octobre 2010 - 06:09 .


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Your kisses are wonderful as always, ejoslin. :) But that dog is annoying. :-/

@creature and Sarah - thank you for your feedback to my poem. I'm glad you liked it, Creature. :)

Modifié par maradeux, 06 octobre 2010 - 06:38 .


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@Corker and maradeux – Love both your takes on Zevran’s lyrics to Keiran Posted Image
 
@jenovan – I’m saving this link, since I have plans to FINALLY begin reading Alessar’s story from the beginning in the next couple of days (or the weekend, depending on work); will hit this one up then *nods*
 
@ wildannie – Zev has too much charm for his own good, for sure. Cute!
 
@ tankgirly – lovely sketch; thanks for sharing!
 
@Hilde – Oh dear… poor Auryn! Sounds like she can’t carry a tune in a bucket. Good thing Zev likes the other things she does with her mouth, huh? *wags eyebrows* Posted Image

(and thanks for your comment on my story, too *G* - I had fun playing with the “overlap” between shape shifter and ranger)
 
@ maradeux – Heeee! I especially love the bit about the Ranger’s Bear pet getting stuck in a door. That happened to me more than once and it’s ANNOYING! *g* Posted Image

 @ ejoslin – More kisses, yay! Alek Cousland in particular thanks you *G

Modifié par ICevoL, 06 octobre 2010 - 07:56 .


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@sarah - haha, zev's just not interested in learning new skills!... is that his 'distinct lack of ambition' 

@Icevol - KaiLynn to the rescue! nice twist

@Korina1982 - Ha, Zev's such a wind up merchant, I like 

@Halae Dral - I like how you show Zemariel's confusion and subtle jealousy.

@payroo - more love for the pied lute player of Antiva :)


@soignee - this is so well crafted, Vardel is one tough character - really menacing.

@corker - this compliments K1982's story perfectly

@jenovan - you really have captured the feeling of their 're-negotiation' here.

@hilde - Your Zevran is always just spot on.  I love how Zevran and Leliana try to be tactful, it's so endearing - you write very very well. 

@mara - nice poem! your multi-lingual talents certainly put me to shame.  *laughs* ...The bear really is a useless lump in confined spaces! 

edit: @ tankgirly - very nice pic!

Modifié par wildannie, 06 octobre 2010 - 08:46 .


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Eh, I guess this is my entry. (not so) Sweet Music.

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@shadow - That's a beautiful but sad film... whoops, I think I'm going to be late for work now *runs off*

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Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

Prompt: Rogue Specializations: Bard, Ranger, Duelist, Shadow, Legionnaire Scout
Involve Zevran with a non-assassin specialization in any way you please. ;) (Assassin stuff can be included at your discretion, but at least one of the others listed must be used somehow...)


Shallow

"I admit, I am surprised the bardic secrets are kept so closely."

Leiliana let her fingers dance out the song's closing cadence as she tilted her head at the assassin.  That was bait, she was sure, but she approached it anyway.  "Why do you say that, Zevran?"

"They seem... somewhat trifling, if you will pardon my saying so.  Inspiration is all very well and good, but putting steel in flesh is what wins the day."

Leiliana looked down at her instrument and carefully began a new piece.  "Ah, Zevran, perhaps you are ready to become a bard yourself.  You have already pierced our first secret."

"Oh?" 

"Indeed, the four Great Songs are only a cover.  Very clever of you to deduce this."

Out of the corner of her eye, she saw him lean back and cross his arms skeptically.  "But those are the bardic skills you bring to our company, yes?  Is there something you have kept from us?"

"Only to preserve harmony.  But a little dissonance, by way of demonstration, will do no harm.  Keep an eye out in Morrigan's direction, would you?"

"I... certainly.  Why?"

"The effect will be most subtle with her.  If you don't watch, you might miss it."  So saying, she brought the prelude around to lead directly into the song.

It was an old Orlesian standard, very popular and well-known even in Ferelden.  It was a love song, of course, perfectly balanced between sentiment and bitter regret, and the music was subtly manipulative rather than florid and grand.

She did not look up, but projected out, both her voice and her presence.  That would catch their attention; upon seeing her turned so inwardly, they too would be drawn in.  She was careful not to acknowledge the soft footfalls and quiet murmurs that were gathering around her; the spell, such as it was, required that the song appear to consume her entire attention.

She let the last words fade softly and fingered a lingering postlude, looking up only when the last note was an echoing ghost in the night.

Wynne was seated nearby, tears in her eyes.  "I loved that song as a girl," she sighed. 

Kallian had also joined them by the fire, and the Warden looked at her wistfully.  "That was really beautiful."

Morrigan, she saw, had been drawn a half-dozen paces away from her fire, but had already turned back.  Leiliana smiled, pleased; the elven funeral song had been too obvious to impress the witch, and she was glad she'd been able to find a more affecting piece this time.

"Thank you," she said graciously to the mage and Warden.  "I'm glad you liked it.  But I did not mean to disrupt the evening chores."

"You can disrupt them like that any time you want," Kallian said, brushing her fingertips over the bard's shoulders as she returned to her abandoned axe.  Wynne nodded in agreement before rising to get back to the wash.

Zevran was looking at her closely.  "So... what?  You... can summon an audience?  Good for making some coin, I suppose, but..."

Leiliana sighed and shook her head.  "The lute, the song, the performance... it gets the girls."

Zevran's gold eyes widened.  "I... see.  Perhaps I spoke ill of the bardic arts too soon, then..."

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So, in the interests of full disclosure...

I had too many ideas for this prompt. Shallow is my entry, but I also wrote two other pieces just to see how they'd turn out. It turned out they both need about another 60-120 minutes of writing time, I think. :)

Bone Splinters has Zevran visiting ranger Vashti in the new Dalish homeland after the Blight; The Symphony I See in Thee is a non-canonical follow-up on hardened!Leiliana's 'your Zevran' conversation.