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Congrats mara! :D


ejoslin wrote...

But I've been thinking -- why do you spare Zevran?

Oooh, fun question :)  Hmm, short answer for my CE, he's a total woobie. ;)   Like I think someone pointed out about other Wardens, he's pretty young, and a bit naive -- he took Zevran's explanation about the Crows at face value, and he definitely felt sympathy for someone who had been enslaved and forced to become an assassin to survive.   It kind of appealed to him that Zev didn't beg or grovel or whatever to be spared, and his matter-of-factness about everything made Alessar feel like he was less likely to be lying.  He was also kind of intrigued by the fact that Zevran seemed to be in charge of the attack -- an armed elf leading a group of humans was a novel idea to him... well, besides his own situation ;)

My mage, on the other hand, is a pragmatist who likes to collect useful things, and he was confident (some might say cocky) enough to think that they could neutralize Zev if required.  He interpreted the initial flirting mostly as a ploy, but his interest was piqued nonetheless.  That aside, I think he viewed taking in Zev as somewhat like taking in a stray dog. ;D

Edit: Top of page? c'mon now...
How about a kiss from ejo's kiss mod? :wub:

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 Posted Image I can't believe I have won.

@Eccentric Sage - your poem is great, as short as it is. Please don't try to make it longer, just because you think you *should*. I don't believe it could get better. Like Corker I love the play of dove and crow and the sound is lovely. :)

So... you're all waiting for a new prompt I guess? :)

How about that...

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Prompt: "Do you stare at everyone like that?" - Zevran's eyes, Zevran's gazes.

Draw, paint, write, knit... - everything is allowed as long as you do not need longer than 60 minutes for the realization.

Deadline: Sunday, 31th Oct. 2010, 10:00 CET

Prize: Poem or short story about a topic of your choice. :)

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maradeux wrote...

Prompt: "Do you stare at everyone like that?" - Zevran's eyes, Zevran's gazes.


Oh, lol. This was the seed of my revolution.

I may have mentioned that my husband was the one who bought DAO; I played my first game on his computer before getting a copy of the game for myself.  He hovered over my shoulder for a fair amount of that first game, offering advice and commentary.

Well, f!Cousland had talked to Zev about being an assassin, about Antiva, all that early stuff, and I click on him and there's the option to ask him why he's staring at me.  So I click it, and lo, he admits to ogling my Warden.  My Warden is not okay with that.  She tells him so.  He shrugs and says, lightly, that he won't do it any more, then.  All's well that ends...

-10 APPROVAL?!  BECAUSE I DON'T WANT HIM STARING AT MY BUTT?  What gives, Zevran?

Husband was quick to suggest reloading and redoing the conversation, because (as he warned me) Zevran would betray you later if his approval wasn't high enough.  Approval had to be maintained!  This was SRS BZNS!

And I finally told him to stick it in his ear. It's hard enough to stand up to that sort of BS in real life, so my video game heroine was *certainly* not going to put up with it, approval rating be damned.

There was still a lot of meta-level "But you haaaave to take the side quests" thinking going on for that playthrough, but it was the start of realizing that I could play the game, have fun and even win without being a slave to the mechanics.

And f!Cousland and Zevran ended up +100 Friendly buddies anyway.  So there. :)

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Many congrats maradeux!



@Eccentric Sage - really loved your poem! beautiful and dark.

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Prompt: "Do you stare at everyone like that?" - Zevran's eyes, Zevran's gazes.

Draw, paint, write, knit... - everything is allowed as long as you do not need longer than 60 minutes for the realization.

Deadline: Sunday, 31th Oct. 2010, 10:00 CET

Prize: Poem or short story about a topic of your choice. :)



“Do you stare at everyone like that?” the Warden asked quietly. Zevran could certainly understand her hesitance. Caunira Surana had spent most of her life in a dank, isolated tower and had no memories of the outside from before she had been recruited into the Grey Wardens. She wouldn’t talk about what had happened but he had gathered that it involved some sort of blood magic scandal although he’d yet to see any evidence that she possessed any such talents.
 
At the Circle Tower, there had been only templars who were not supposed to get involved with mages and her fellow mages that she could gotten involved with. Of the mages, there was only one who had stood out to her as being at all spirited enough to be worth considering. Tragically – well, for her – he was a human which was a deal-breaker in and of itself and he was prone to chronically escaping so getting too close to him would have made her life there difficult so she had made sure to keep her distance and not allow herself to become too attached. Caunira was not at all experienced when it came to flirting and sex (although quite adept at turning people down if what he’d seen with Alistair and Leliana was any indication) and it showed in her question.
 
Most of the people he had known and been with would stare back unabashedly and begin to move towards sex or even simply jump him if they weren’t the patient sort. Something told him that that wouldn’t go over very well with Caunira and he did not wish to anger her for several reasons. She was his only protection against the Crows now that he had failed to kill her, of course, as well as the fact that she was a powerful mage and virgins were rarely interested in angry sex.
 
Did he stare at everybody the way he stared at her? It wasn’t like he had a mirror with him so he could see how, exactly, he stared at her and he hadn’t had to practice his stare for quite some time and so he wasn’t entirely sure though he rather doubted it. When he was a child growing up in an Antivan ****house, he had had just one stare: that of a resigned boy who watched other boys only a little older than him being sold off to many anonymous men and, occasionally, broken by them. He had seen the stares that they and many of the women of the ****house had used to entice their customers but, unlike with the massages he’d been taught, he had simply absorbed it and made no effort to make it his own.
 
When Zevran was seven he was sold himself but not to horny men – and sometimes women – but rather to the illustrious Antivan Crows. Zevran had been terrified at the prospect of being an assassin but he had seen them around sometimes, oftentimes in the very ****house he had grown up in, and they were all confident, powerful men. He had truly been lucky to escape the fate of the other ****-bred boys. Of course, such power and prestige did not come easily and the Crows training started to produce their first casualties in a little less than a year. That was when Zevran learned his second stare. The Crows didn’t want horror at death or weepy sentimentalism. They didn’t want fear and they didn’t want individualism. They had taught him to gaze impassively no matter what new sight lay before his eyes. It was a very useful skill, that, and it had saved his life on more than one occasion.
 
The years passed and Zevran had excelled in his training. He had thrown himself into it, naturally, desperate to survive and eager to excel at something other than looks which, given his species, were something that had always drawn people to him. Just because he wanted to be recognized for something besides that was no reason not to cultivate his innate talents, however, especially seeing as how seduction was such a useful tool for an assassin. That was when he developed his third stare. It had taken him more hours than he cared to admit practicing in front of a mirror and feeling very foolish and not at all enticed but eventually he had managed to take his half-forgotten memories from his years in the ****house and turn it into the kind of stare that almost without exception lured whoever he used it on into his bed. His targets, his superiors, Taliesin, Rinna…
 
Zevran was afraid that if he tried his usual alluring gaze on Caunira then she’d become spooked and he’d miss his chance with her. She looked a little like Rinna which both made him even more eager to pursue her and yet strangely reluctant. Caunira was not Rinna, he sternly reminded himself, and she would not meet the same fate. If nothing else, she had proven the ability to best him so even if he tried to kill her (again) she would be able to survive it. The Warden was his newest master but, unlike all of his previous ones, she didn’t seem to know what to do with him. If she had asked, Zevran would have had plenty of suggestions but she never did. She just talked to him for hours on end about his past and hers and genuinely seemed interested in getting to know him. If only for the sake of making sure that he wasn’t planning on trying his hand at killing her again, Zevran could understand the use of that.
 
How did he stare at her? He had caught himself staring several times – notably, right before she had asked him that question – and though he lacked the ability to see how it appeared to her, his gaze felt different than it ever had before. Almost everything with her felt different than it had before. A new country, a new and nobler purpose, a new game to play…he wasn’t quite sure what to make of it yet. But he did know one thing, at least.
 
“Not everyone.”

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Time for my attempt at catching up.

@maradeux - Thanks! I really like your poem. The transition from the better side of things to the worse side of things is nice. Also, congratulations!

@Hilde - Thanks! I like your poem. It's short, but it gets everything across very well.

@Tigress M - That's great. XD

@Sarah1281 - I like your take on that story. I could see it happening that way, and I like the poetry contest.

@wildannie - Thanks! I like your art there.

@EccentricSage - Running out of time is always annoying. I like what you have there, though.

ejoslin wrote...

But I've been thinking -- why do you spare Zevran?


Not all of my characters do. Some of them I just can't think of a reason why they would (Jezelda doesn't care for humans, elves, or basically anybody except
dwarves. She also doesn't care for assassins, and is somewhat paranoid. She killed him).

Zemariel tried to recruit everybody he saw, thinking he needed as much help as he could get. The fact that Zevran was also an elf had something to do with it as well. Narvinyel was completely sure she could kill him if he tried to do anything (despite that she had some trouble with that fight, so she might not've been able to), and thought 'why not'. Bryony didn't want to kill somebody who had surrendered, didn't want to just release him into the wild, and thought that he might be useful.

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Asepsis wrote...

tankgirly wrote...

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I WANT! :wub:


This artist actually take mail orders! I am very tempting to get this one....and perhaps beg her to do a Anders one while she's at it.

Tank:wub:

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tankgirly wrote...

Asepsis wrote...

tankgirly wrote...


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I WANT! :wub:


This artist actually take mail orders! I am very tempting to get this one....and perhaps beg her to do a Anders one while she's at it.

Tank:wub:


Oh me too! Alas I can't spare $75 at the moment! *sadness*

Also, congrats to the winner I LOVED the poem!!!<3

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The thread is about to drop to the second page and that would be bad, so I will ask another Zev Question.

We all know that Zevran will fight against you with Taliesen if his approval is low (25 neutral/blank or lower). Why? He genuinely does want to escape the crows.

My own thoughts are this. Zevran seems to believe, actually, that the warden will win. If he leaves the fight he will tell Taliesen that he will lose and advises the other crows to leave, telling them they have a choice.

I personally think that Zevran is just doing what he attempted to do the first time -- suicide via gray warden.

I don't consider him leaving the fight a betrayal, fwiw, only if he fights against you.  His leaving, to me, is also completely understandable because it's no longer a simple freedom vs slavery.  Since the romance is active, but not yet at adore, he's conflicted at a deeper level.  And he does still believe that the warden will win -- he just cannot fight his old lover whom he still cares for with his current lover whom he may not care as much about.  

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I think that he fights the GW not because it was his plan at lower approval, but because it's a choice between either the GW - who he is neutral about or Taliesen - who he's has feelings for. In my opinion he is more honourable to side with Taliesen at this point. The GW has had ample time and opportunity to bond with him but has not bothered.

Zevran is no doubt aware that his and Taliesen's chance of survival are slim but chooses to fight for the man who is probably the closest he has ever had to a real friend as he has been given no friendship from the GW.

So, I don't think he wants to die at this point but he is prepared to die fighting alongside Taliesen rather than kill or abandon his friend for the warden.

Edit: it makes me a little sad when Zev's nearly on page 2 :( 

Modifié par wildannie, 26 octobre 2010 - 07:02 .


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Ah, ok, my last question was talked to death in another thread. So, I'm going to risk LelianaFan wrath here with this one:

Leliana and Zevran were both murderers who used seduction to lure their targets. Leliana would resort to torture as well to get information when need be, though only as a last resort whereas Zevran believed in clean kills.

I find this is where their similarties end, however. Zevran was raised to do this -- he was never taught or shown any other way. He was a slave as well. As part of his training, he was subjected to torture, physical and psychological.

Leliana was not raised to do this. She fell in love with someone, and for whatever reasons, decided to get into the life. She was not a slave, she was a young woman in love who would do unspeakable things for her lover. It ended very badly for her, where she ended up being framed, tortured, abused, and escaped, and ended up seeking succor in the Chantry. She is seen as a "better person" than Zevran because of this.

But I got to thinking. It actually would make sense, given their upbringings, that Leliana would turn to the chantry. It also makes sense that she would see how badly off the path she was.

Zevran never had that exposure as a child, really, to what a "proper" life was. His becoming an assassin was not a choice -- he was very deliberately raised to be that way, and believed there were no other options for him. As a child, I am sure Leliana was not taught that she should be a bard, and be the very best bard she could be.

Hmmm, I'm trying to formulate this question. IS Leliana a better person because she sought out the Chantry and tried to change? Or is it that she already knew of a different way and knew, on some level, that the murdering/torturing ways she adopted were wrong. Or is Zevran in some ways a better person as he realizes, on some level, despite everything he was taught, that his life was something that, if possible, should be escaped from?

Zevran, had he continued with the crows, most likely would have died a young death, but it was far riskier for him to leave the crows than to stay. With Leliana, she HAD to run away.

Hmmmm, this probably makes no sense at all.

Edit: Both of them are pretty decent people despite their pasts for sure.

Modifié par ejoslin, 26 octobre 2010 - 07:10 .


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wildannie wrote...

I think that he fights the GW not because it was his plan at lower approval, but because it's a choice between either the GW - who he is neutral about or Taliesen - who he's has feelings for. In my opinion he is more honourable to side with Taliesen at this point. The GW has had ample time and opportunity to bond with him but has not bothered.

Zevran is no doubt aware that his and Taliesen's chance of survival are slim but chooses to fight for the man who is probably the closest he has ever had to a real friend as he has been given no friendship from the GW.

So, I don't think he wants to die at this point but he is prepared to die fighting alongside Taliesen rather than kill or abandon his friend for the warden.

Edit: it makes me a little sad when Zev's nearly on page 2 :( 


See, I agree with this. He tried to keep Taliesen out of it.  

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I find Zev to be more honest than Liliana. Zev gives you the truth upfront whereas you have to catch Liliana in the lie. As to whether that makes Zev a better person? No, not necessarily. I see them as equally good people.

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I do quite like leliana but she's definitely not a better person imo. It does seem like she may have been 'groomed' to be a bard but she undoubtedly had more of a choice than Zevran.

It seems to me to be very unlikely that Zevran would have taken the path of a killer without his upbringing, he even states that coldness didn't come naturally. Every job he took was a kill or be killed situation, not so much with Leliana.



it was natural for leliana to go to the chantry and for Zev to go to the Dalish. I always take it that he didn't get the opportunity to actually join up with the Dalish in any way, being met with a drawn bow and driven off (and he still sticks up for them!). I think this rejection is supported by his comment to Sarel.



So leliana ran away because she HAD to and was taken in, Zevran ran away to escape the grim day to day life as a young crow because he WANTED to and was rejected.






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it was natural for leliana to go to the chantry and for Zev to go to the Dalish. I always take it that he didn't get the opportunity to actually join up with the Dalish in any way, being met with a drawn bow and driven off (and he still sticks up for them!). I think this rejection is supported by his comment to Sarel.

Why would they do that? We know at least the ones in Ferelden are willing to accept city elves if they prove themselves. Was it because of the Crows thing?

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You know, I have no clue what happened when he tried to find the dalish, but I assumed he joined them for a little while given what he says about how it didn't live up to his fantasies. But given one other thing he may say about the Dalish (that he understands they're more violent than the Thedas ones) that make sense as well.

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I adore Leiliana so much so that I often romance her just to keep her talking because she shuts up so fast if you go the friends only route. But I think Zevran is a better person than she is by a long stretch.



Leil used seduction on her targets and killed them without remorse same as Zev but Leil never had to do it, it was a life she chose. Had Marjolaine not betrayed her she would most likely still be a bard and never reformed. Leilian actually never expresses remorse for the things she has done.



Zev was forced as a slave to be a crow or die when you sit at the table of life and everyone is feasting on steak should you turn down the gruel because its not good enough? NO you eat the gruel and live, making the best of a bad situation. That was what Zev did, he ate the gruel and became an assassin because he wanted to live. There are a couple of times where he expresses remorse and regret for the things he has done, and using the warden as an out he tries to escape the life that up until then had been chosen for him.



Now here is where people may say well Zev is perfectly willing to go on assassinating while Leiliana is ready to be all chantrified and reformed. But Why would Zevran do anything else he is good at being an Assassin, it pays well and refines his skills and as he says, some people need assassinating eg Howe, Loghain, Bhelan, Harrowmont, Irving etc. I have no doubt Leiliana would eventually get bored being a chantry mouse and return to the life of a bard the question is would she continue to kill people without remorse. It sounds as if Leiliana does not discriminate who she kills, as evidenced further in her DLC while Zev when given the choice would be more discriminating with who he would kill as evidenced by his apparent regret and most people try to avoid repeating things that will make them feel remorse.



I do think Leiliana is an awesome character and she is my 2nd favorite love interest but I think Zev is a better person in spite of the fact that on our first meeting he did try to kill me. They both have a lot of potential for good or evil but Zev seems to be more aware of his own wicked failings whereas Leiliana is oblivious of hers.


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I have no doubt Leiliana would eventually get bored being a chantry mouse and return to the life of a bard the question is would she continue to kill people without remorse. It sounds as if Leiliana does not discriminate who she kills, as evidenced further in her DLC while Zev when given the choice would be more discriminating with who he would kill as evidenced by his apparent regret and most people try to avoid repeating things that will make them feel remorse.

Why would she do that? She's been disillusioned about 'the game' and she knows all about the less glamorous sides of a bard now. I doubt she'll ever return to them although, especially hardened, she may leave the Chantry. There's quite a big difference between admitting she's bored at the Chantry and leaving (like she does in the game) and going back to her bardic lifestyle.

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Sarah1281 wrote...


it was natural for leliana to go to the chantry and for Zev to go to the Dalish. I always take it that he didn't get the opportunity to actually join up with the Dalish in any way, being met with a drawn bow and driven off (and he still sticks up for them!). I think this rejection is supported by his comment to Sarel.

Why would they do that? We know at least the ones in Ferelden are willing to accept city elves if they prove themselves. Was it because of the Crows thing?


Perhaps, or maybe they were just a less welcoming tribe... Oh, or maybe, they had been more welcoming in the past but when, years ago, one of their own ran off with a city elf woodcutter the tribe had turned their back on all outsiders.:happy:

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The thing I like about both Zevran and Leliana is that they're realistic; people with flaws. And like real people, they both recognize some of the flaws they have while others fall squarely into their personal blind spots. This is one of the things I love so much about DAO -- the complexity built into the characters (some more so than others).



Most of my warden's prefer Zevran's company (both in friendship and as an LI) simply because they prefer his stories to Leliana's (I know, sacrilege! Stories are Leliana's "thing"! *g*). Not that her stories are bad, but the religion thing frankly bugs... which is my issue, not Leliana's -- that's just who she is. I can't help if who she is annoys me in 60% (I'm estimating) of her conversations... ;D

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I don't know that you can say either are better, but I'm minded of their 'personal quests'.

Zevran had Taliesen, closest thing he had to a friend in the Crows, whom he calls a brother (once), and more'.

Leliana has Marjolaine, her bardmaster, whom she loved but was betrayed by.

You can talk Leliana into killing Marjolaine (quite easily, if I recall) and undo the merciful Chantry good-girl thing she was trying to live up to. You can't really do the same for Zevran...he makes the choice on his own whether to face Taliesen. What's more, if Zevran leaves Taliesen to his fate and doesn't fight at all, he will abandon the party later if the player takes issue with Zevran not helping to kill his former friend.

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I think Zevran has INTEGRITY. A word I don't think Lel would even know the meaning of. She lets other people as well as circumstances make her choices for her, even as she has the luxury not to. She speaks of doing good and passes judgment on others even as she does not sound as though she truly cared about the people she killed or tortured as a Bard. She strikes me as a silly hypocritacle girl who's too cowardly to know herself and lacks any personal sense of principal to stand upon. In place of principal, she simply spouts fairytail BS, or makes excuses. (The Maker made darkness, so embracing darkness is ok, for example of Lel logic)



Zevran tries to hide behind perverse humor and bravado, but beneath it is a person who has suffered slavery, indignity, and torture, but does not feel sorry for himself. He never had a choice, and yet, you find through dialogue that he does care about people. He wanted the assassinations he carried out to be against people who at least deserved it in some way, and he did not want his marks to suffer. He even tried to risk his life for a mark he had a crush on. He understands the neccessary evils in the world, and is straight forward and honest about that. When he realized what the Crows had truly made him, and how meaningless and negative his existence is, he tries to off himself. He seems to, deep down, be a very sensitive but proud person with a personal set of principals he lives by.



Lelliana will whisper you sweet lies and yet remain cold to the kill... trying to become whatever people want her to be on the outside, but seeming never to truly evaluate herself or take ownership of her own fate. I really hate people like Lel, and adore people like Zevran. And in my worldview, these traits make Zevran far better a person than Lel. Hell, I think at the core of his being, Zev is a kinder, more honorable, and more respectable person than most of the other companions. It just takes getting past the facade to find who he really is.

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Ooooh... as for the showdown question, I agree, from Zevran's POV it would be more of a betrayal to side with the Warden if the Warden did not bother to get to know him, or was a jerk to Zevran. Shame most Zev haters only see the surface.



As for how my Wardens justify sparing him, well, my Dalish, Dristen, wanted to liberate the slave and give him a second chance. He was well aware that Zevran could still be a threat, and as a rogue himself has an idea of what to watch out for. So it also was a case of keeping your friends close and your enemies closer. Granted, normally that would not imply BEDDING your enemy, but what can he say? He's a lonely, horny young elf who never got the chance the "bond" with anyone but the Ice Queen (Morrigan... I love her as a character, but she's an awful mate.) And Zevran is a much more attractive enemy than a Genlock. ;) Of course, he falls for him completely and throws caution to the wind.



My elven fem mage, Vallen, specializes in magic that is defensive, and magic that temporarily disables the enemy. She's good at watching her back. She did seriously consider that it would be safer to kill him, and almost did, but is not used to looking a helpless victim in the eyes. She couldn't do it, and Alistair wussed out too. lol So she decided to make the best of the situation. I'm not too far along with her yet, but so far she likes Zevran, has fun with him, is fascinated with him, but is utterly creeped out by him as well. It makes for an interesting dynamic.



My human noble, Davend, is used to the idea of collecting skilled people to work beneath him, and is confident, perhaps even cocky, about his control over the situation. He's probably pretty lucky Zev does not intend to kill him. lol He also does secretly take some perverse pleasure in the power he has over another's life. He started out thinking it's ok, since Zevran SEEMS fine with it, but he eventually starts to gain deeper understanding and compassion for Zevran, and starts to realize how ****ed up it is that the Elves are in that position in the first place. This is one of those characters who's cold and calculating like Loghain, but Zevran ends up changing him. It's really fun to see how things play out. Zevran is truly at his most impressive when the warden is a bit of an cold hearted pragmatist.



Astor, my human male mage, is also not far along. But he is soft hearted, more so than Vallen, and a bit fatalistic. He spares Zevran simply because he feels compassion and wants to believe in redemption and freedom, as he himself is a Blood Mage, as is his foolish friend Jowan. Astor is a rather depressive and dark character full of stormy emotions and inner conflict. He has grand dreams of an ideal world that seem unatainable, has been through a lot of ****, and has all odds as well as a world that hates and fears him stacked against him. He wants for Zevran what he wants for himself, and I don't think he cares too much if a night of comfort were to end with a dagger through his heart, though he would not admit that a part of him fancies that notion.



My fem city elf Sadith (I re-started her) is a hard person who feels very trapped and deeply wronged by humanity. She has no problem with the philosophy of 'death happens', and also feels some people just need to die. When faced with an elven slave/assassin, so full of dignity and calm in the face of impending death, she can't help but spare him out of immense respect. City elves like him are too rare, and she'd rather risk the possibility of a future duel to the death with him and have one of them die honorably and with dignity at the other's hands, than cut him down like some common sniveling highwayman. Needless to say, he ended up being the only one at camp who even remotely understands her. She doesn't have much respect for most of the companions, especially not Alistair, but Zevran is the real man back at camp. She doesn't want to get romanticly involved, she doesn't have the patience for that, and I can't see her letting him be the one in control in bed. I wonder if anyone has made a sex mod where the chick is in control? She's the alpha of this pack of strays, and even if he's the one she deems worthy, he's still a rung beneath her from her POV as leader.



I haven't even started a duster yet, and my Dwarf Noble is still waiting at Ostegar.