39010 réponses à ce sujet

[Collider]

RagingCyclone wrote...

Tigress M wrote...

@Collider - Yes, it's right before he kills himself, sadly. I've only done that ending twice (once for the achievement and again during my dice run) and that is the last time I will ever see that cutscene. I HATE that ending.

What she said.

There are worse scenes, though.

[RagingCyclone]

Yes, Collider there is one worse, the US with Leliana unhardened. That one I actually cried with.

[Reika]

Collider - Not sure which is worse, Alistair sacrificing himself, or doing the US and the funeral scene after the mod for Fort Drakon.

[inquartata02]

What happens with the US and Leliana unhardened?



(I really need to stop giggling whenever I type/read/hear hardened or unhardened.)

[Giggles_Manically]

She apparently commits suicide to be with the warden again.



Although Zevran's slide was bad to.

He becomes the leader of the crows but is never able to love someone again.

[Sarah1281]

I was going to wait until stats went back up but, well, I'm impatient.

Love Means Never Having To Say You're Sorry


Alistair’s nine-year-old daughter Moira had been sent to him by her exasperated nanny after the child had knocked over her little brother’s blocks and refused to apologize.
 
She stared at him defiantly. “I’m not going to say I’m sorry!”
 
“Moira, you know that you made Teagan cry,” Alistair told her, a hint of disapproval in his voice.
 
“I didn’t mean to!” Moira objected. “I didn’t even mean to knock over his stupid blocks, anyway. He just built them too close to the door and I didn’t see them.”
 
“If you didn’t mean to knock them over and didn’t want your brother to cry then why won’t you apologize?” Alistair asked reasonably. “You can apologize for accidents, too, you know.”
 
“I know,” Moira said solemnly, nodding. “But…I can’t apologize to him. I just can’t.”
 
“Why not?” Alistair asked patiently. “I promise you that he’ll forgive you if you do.”
 
Moira looked at the floor. “That’s not it.”
 
“I’m not a mind-reader, Moira,” Alistair told her. “I can’t help you until you tell me what’s wrong.”
 
“I can’t apologize to Teagan ’cause I love him!” Moira burst out.
 
Alistair blinked. “I…don’t quite follow. Shouldn’t loving him mean that you’d want to make him not upset at you anymore?”
 
Moira looked torn. “Well, yeah…except that I need some other way to get him to not be mad anymore.”
 
“What’s wrong with apologizing?” Alistair inquired.
 
Moira huffed. “I just told you! I can’ts ’cause I love him!”
 
“Why can’t you apologize to Teagan and love him?” Alistair asked her, feeling a little out of his depth.
 
“Because I heard mommy say that love means never having to say you’re sorry,” Moira explained. “And I love Teagan so I can’t tell him that I’m sorry.”
 
Alistair tried very hard to keep a straight face and though he managed not to chuckle, he couldn’t help the small smile tugging on his lips.
 
Moira’s face crumpled. “And now you’re laughing at me and Teagan will probably never forgive me and…and I don’t know what to do!”
 
“Easy, Moira, I’m not laughing at you,” Alistair was quick to reassure his daughter. He placed a hand on her shoulder.
 
“You’re not?” Moira asked uncertainly, her eyes scanning his face for any hint of deception.
 
“I would never laugh at you,” Alistair promised. “I just realized that you got the wrong idea from what your mother said. You’re allowed to apologize to someone that you love.”
 
Moira’s eyes widened. “You are?”
 
Alistair nodded. “Towards the end of your mother’s pregnancy with Teagan, I was apologizing to her at least a half dozen times a day, you know. And then when she got a little…upset while your brother was being born, she apologized to me afterwards as well.”
 
Moira’s forehead scrunched up in confusion. “So…was mommy lying, then?” The very idea seemed inconceivable to her.
 
“She wasn’t lying,” Alistair corrected her. “The expression ‘love means never having to say you’re sorry’ means that you’re not supposed to hurt the people you care about on purpose and knowing that they will always forgive you, no matter what…or at least that’s how I’ve always understood it.”
 
“So Teagan will forgive me for knocking over his blocks because he loves me, even if I don’t apologize?” Moira asked hopefully.
 
“Eventually, yes,” Alistair confirmed. “But I think that we can speed that process up if you did apologize to him.”
 
“Why?” Moira asked, puzzled. “You just said that he would forgive me anyway.”
 
“Yes, but if you apologize then he’ll know that you’re sorry about what happened and it would be easier to forgive him,” Alistair explained. “You know how I apologized to you last year when I accidentally stepped on your favorite toy?”
 
Moira nodded slowly, a flash of sadness dancing across her face at the reminder of her broken toy. “Yeah.”
 
“Well, if I hadn’t said I was sorry, would you have forgiven me by now?” Alistair asked.
 
Moira thought about it. “Hm…I don’t know. But I guess a year is kind of a long time so maybe yes.”
 
“Was it far easier to forgive me since I said that I was sorry?” Alistair asked pointedly.
 
“Yeah because then I knew that you cared that you made me cry-Oh!” Moira realized. “Thanks Dad, I gotta go!” She ran for the door.
 
“Where?” Alistair called after her.
 
“I gotta go tell Teagan I’m sorry about his blocks before he forgives me!” she shouted back over her shoulder.
 
“And so another crisis is successfully dealt with,” Alistair mused. “I can’t wait until they’re old enough to have serious problems…”

[RagingCyclone]

inquartata02 wrote...

What happens with the US and Leliana unhardened?

(I really need to stop giggling whenever I type/read/hear hardened or unhardened.)

I have that ending here so if anyone wanted to see it they could. It has included Leliana's epilogue slide.
http://social.biowar...2/albums/924293

[Collider]

Reika wrote...

Collider - Not sure which is worse, Alistair sacrificing himself, or doing the US and the funeral scene after the mod for Fort Drakon.

I was thinking Alistair being executed (pretty cold blooded), but that works too.

[Reika]

Collider wrote...

Reika wrote...

Collider - Not sure which is worse, Alistair sacrificing himself, or doing the US and the funeral scene after the mod for Fort Drakon.

I was thinking Alistair being executed (pretty cold blooded), but that works too.

Wait. They show Alistair getting executed?

[inquartata02]

 That is so sad! 

[Collider]

They don't show the execution, but it's pretty horrid that the warden would betray Alistair like that. After all they've been through.

At least in the sacrifice ending, Alistair does something he wants to do. He does his duty, and he accepts it.

[errant_knight]

That was lovely, Sarah. And I needed that explained to me, too, so Alistair did good work today.

[inclemency]

Well on a happier note, Alistair now proudly wears the kitty cat hat, the panda wasn't the right fashion accessory for the Cailan armour.

[Reika]

Collider wrote...

They don't show the execution, but it's pretty horrid that the warden would betray Alistair like that. After all they've been through.
At least in the sacrifice ending, Alistair does something he wants to do. He does his duty, and he accepts it.

Ah, okay. I was rather horrified if they did show that happening to Alistair.

Storm - I think the kitty hat is far more adorable than the panda hat.

[MageTarot]

Reika wrote...

[Ah, okay. I was rather horrified if they did show that happening to Alistair.

Some heartless modders have attempted an "Alistair executed" mod where the player kills him at the Landsmeet.

Fortunately none of them are very good.



PS - yes, I'm still playing catch-up with all these posts. Just popped in to say hello  

[Reika]

Heya Mage.



And that's just...awful. But I guess that's just me.

[MageTarot]

Nope, not just you. I have yet to do the ultimate betrayal on Alistair. I was prepared to a few weeks ago though - had the character rolled up and had him go through his origin story. But for some weird reason, he never uploaded correctly to the website. Finally gave up after the 4th try and deleted him from both the game and the character generator. There was definitely a message somewhere in there for me.

[Reika]

Yeah, there's some things I just won't do, even though it's a game.

Edit: Because there isn't enough Alistair, or happy stuff for Alistair.

And well, Cebo's work still makes me squee.

Modifié par Reika, 04 janvier 2011 - 02:42 .

[RagingCyclone]

Cebo, you did an excellent job capturing Marlana and Alistair there.

[KyleTheArtist]

I think the cat hat is more happy then the owner of the hat XD



I could not do the sacrifice. Screw the achievement, I aint doing it XD EVAR! Not with my mage warden anyways. Love her to much and don't want her heart broken either.



I also took the whole Dark Ritual like a business thing XD I read that some people went bat poop insane about it. OMG he's cheating on my warden. Dude, it's business sex, no string attached, you'll both live happily ever after. Besides it's a game XD

[inclemency]

Reika, that is just gorgeous!

*waves to MT*

Switched around armour today, let Alistair wear the armour Rory had on most of the game, but Eamon on is now awake, and they're all in Denerim and getting ready to kick some Howe butt, so it was armour change time.
I'm sure going to miss doing that in DA2

Modifié par inclemency, 04 janvier 2011 - 02:54 .

[CeboCabo]

Thank you, Rage



Reika, you're making me blush :*)

[Reika]

Kyle - I did a prompt on my take on how I always thought things led up to the DR. And I never saw it as cheating. Not that my warden was happy with it, but the choice of dying and leaving Alistair to a potentially unhappy life. Or a life without Alistair... Yeah, she went the selfish route.

Because let's face it, nothing else had gone right with the Blight, how was Riordan's plan actually going to work?

Edit:

Cebo - Hehe, well, I always try to give credit where its due.

Modifié par Reika, 04 janvier 2011 - 02:54 .

[inclemency]

Cebo, didn't realize you were here, it's wonderful. Lol, you did colour, and it turned out great