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[Thor Rand Al]

Somebody wrote...

Glorfindel709 wrote...

Gah!!! Doing Urn of Sacred Ashes and just saw Wynne in her underwear.. with a prominent cameltoe *gags*

Maybe your warden will wake up in bed next to her later. 

All I have to say is just EWWWWWW  
lol



Top of the page.  No smut lol

Modifié par Thor Rand Al, 04 février 2011 - 01:57 .

[LadyDamodred]

Sarah1281 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
I could've sworn Gaider debunked this.

The Warden (the taint specifically) is a conduit so any Warden must still kill the Archdemon for the soul to transfer. Supposedly.

Edit: That said I can't find the quote for the life of me. Too long ago.

So the Archdemon soul has to be transfered to a Warden, and then to the baby?
But Morrigan said that the Archdemon soul would follow the child like a beacon. I do not remember her specifying anything, and Riordan wouldn't know as he wouldn't be accustomed to a DR.

Oh well, the game failed to convey that impression with its vagueness, and since my Warden did not have the luxury of reading Gaider's comment, it wouldn't matter in the game.

Gaider said that the way they saw it, the soul went into the Dark Ritual and then into the baby but since they didn't put it into the game, you can feel free to ignore that.

Nice!  *ignores*  That's a big reason for a couple of my Wardens to do the DR.  They figure the odds are pretty good all of them might die before making it to the AD, so it's for the best if someone else can kill it.  It's also why she doesn't bring Morrigan.  Too risky.

[TotoroTori]

Hey yall I was looking through my scraps and junk art and I came across this




okay now let me be miss lurker again and hide in the shadows!

Modifié par TotoroTori, 04 février 2011 - 01:55 .

[_Somebody]

Thor Rand Al wrote...

Somebody wrote...

Glorfindel709 wrote...

Gah!!! Doing Urn of Sacred Ashes and just saw Wynne in her underwear.. with a prominent cameltoe *gags*

Maybe your warden will wake up in bed next to her later. 

All I have to say is just EWWWWWW  
lol

Wouldnt be the first time she woke up with a young man in her bed:P

[Yankee23]

Fantastic, Tori!

[Ryzaki]

Sarah1281 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
I could've sworn Gaider debunked this.

The Warden (the taint specifically) is a conduit so any Warden must still kill the Archdemon for the soul to transfer. Supposedly.

Edit: That said I can't find the quote for the life of me. Too long ago.

So the Archdemon soul has to be transfered to a Warden, and then to the baby?
But Morrigan said that the Archdemon soul would follow the child like a beacon. I do not remember her specifying anything, and Riordan wouldn't know as he wouldn't be accustomed to a DR.

Oh well, the game failed to convey that impression with its vagueness, and since my Warden did not have the luxury of reading Gaider's comment, it wouldn't matter in the game.

Gaider said that the way they saw it, the soul went into the Dark Ritual and then into the baby but since they didn't put it into the game, you can feel free to ignore that.

Ah good I knew I heard something similar.

[Thor Rand Al]

Somebody wrote...

Thor Rand Al wrote...

Somebody wrote...

Glorfindel709 wrote...
Gah!!! Doing Urn of Sacred Ashes and just saw Wynne in her underwear.. with a prominent cameltoe *gags*

Maybe your warden will wake up in bed next to her later. 

All I have to say is just EWWWWWW  
lol

Wouldnt be the first time she woke up with a young man in her bed:P

Ya n all I gotta say to that comment, I so wanted to slap her after that lmao.  So wish we could've intervened dang it.  Given her an a--chewing lol

[KnightofPhoenix]

Sarah1281 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
I could've sworn Gaider debunked this.

The Warden (the taint specifically) is a conduit so any Warden must still kill the Archdemon for the soul to transfer. Supposedly.

Edit: That said I can't find the quote for the life of me. Too long ago.

So the Archdemon soul has to be transfered to a Warden, and then to the baby?
But Morrigan said that the Archdemon soul would follow the child like a beacon. I do not remember her specifying anything, and Riordan wouldn't know as he wouldn't be accustomed to a DR.

Oh well, the game failed to convey that impression with its vagueness, and since my Warden did not have the luxury of reading Gaider's comment, it wouldn't matter in the game.

Gaider said that the way they saw it, the soul went into the Dark Ritual and then into the baby but since they didn't put it into the game, you can feel free to ignore that.

Wait what?

How can the soul go into the Dark Ritual? Were we supposed to make the ritual (and sex?) right in front of the archdemon for it to work?

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 04 février 2011 - 02:04 .

[_Somebody]

Thor Rand Al wrote...

Somebody wrote...

Thor Rand Al wrote...

Somebody wrote...

Glorfindel709 wrote...
Gah!!! Doing Urn of Sacred Ashes and just saw Wynne in her underwear.. with a prominent cameltoe *gags*

Maybe your warden will wake up in bed next to her later. 

All I have to say is just EWWWWWW  
lol

Wouldnt be the first time she woke up with a young man in her bed:P

Ya n all I gotta say to that comment, I so wanted to slap her after that lmao.  So wish we could've intervened dang it.  Given her an a--chewing lol

Or perhaps asked to be her next young victim.

[Addai]

Sarah1281 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
I could've sworn Gaider debunked this.

The Warden (the taint specifically) is a conduit so any Warden must still kill the Archdemon for the soul to transfer. Supposedly.

Edit: That said I can't find the quote for the life of me. Too long ago.

So the Archdemon soul has to be transfered to a Warden, and then to the baby?
But Morrigan said that the Archdemon soul would follow the child like a beacon. I do not remember her specifying anything, and Riordan wouldn't know as he wouldn't be accustomed to a DR.

Oh well, the game failed to convey that impression with its vagueness, and since my Warden did not have the luxury of reading Gaider's comment, it wouldn't matter in the game.

Gaider said that the way they saw it, the soul went into the Dark Ritual and then into the baby but since they didn't put it into the game, you can feel free to ignore that.

I think it was that the AD passes through the Warden making the killing blow, then on to the baby.  He was answering the question- if the DR is performed, is a Warden still necessary to kill Archie.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Addai67 wrote...
I think it was that the AD passes through the Warden making the killing blow, then on to the baby.  He was answering the question- if the DR is performed, is a Warden still necessary to kill Archie.

Well the game did not convey that at all. I do not recall Morrigan specifying who has to kill the Archdemon and Riordan's comments become irrlevent as he does not know about the ritual and how it's supposed to work.
Wouldn't the Warden die immediately upon contact with the archdemon spirit anyhow?

Meh, I think it's safe to ignore it in the game.

[Thor Rand Al]

Somebody wrote...
Or perhaps asked to be her next young victim.

Thats just ahhh WRONG N EWWWWWWW  lol

[Addai]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Addai67 wrote...
I think it was that the AD passes through the Warden making the killing blow, then on to the baby.  He was answering the question- if the DR is performed, is a Warden still necessary to kill Archie.

Well the game did not convey that at all. I do not recall Morrigan specifying who has to kill the Archdemon and Riordan's comments become irrlevent as he does not know about the ritual and how it's supposed to work.
Wouldn't the Warden die immediately upon contact with the archdemon spirit anyhow?

Meh, I think it's safe to ignore it in the game.

The game doesn't ignore it.  A Warden does still have to kill the archdemon, even if the DR has been performed.  You can't have Joe Redcliffe run up and take the killing blow.

I hypothesized that getting a shot of Archie does affect the Warden making the killing blow, even if she or he doesn't die.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Addai67 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Addai67 wrote...
I think it was that the AD passes through the Warden making the killing blow, then on to the baby.  He was answering the question- if the DR is performed, is a Warden still necessary to kill Archie.

Well the game did not convey that at all. I do not recall Morrigan specifying who has to kill the Archdemon and Riordan's comments become irrlevent as he does not know about the ritual and how it's supposed to work.
Wouldn't the Warden die immediately upon contact with the archdemon spirit anyhow?

Meh, I think it's safe to ignore it in the game.

The game doesn't ignore it.  A Warden does still have to kill the archdemon, even if the DR has been performed.  You can't have Joe Redcliffe run up and take the killing blow.

You base that on the cutscene?
That is not sufficient enough to prove that the Warden is needed to kill it. The game ignores it, at least when it's relevent for the decision to make the DR. Morrigan makes absolutely no mention of it.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 04 février 2011 - 02:16 .

[Zjarcal]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
You base that on the cutscene?
That is not sufficient enough to prove that the Warden is needed to kill it. The game ignores it, at least when it's relevent for the decision to make the DR. Morrigan makes absolutely no mention of it.

I agree. Even if the cutscene was the game's way of telling you that a warden was needed to kill Archie even with the DR performed, nothing before the battle or during the conversation with Morrigan suggests that.

EDIT: This is to say that a warden who thinks that the DR increases the odds of winning isn't necessarily making a mistake (even if it is a mistake, it can't be known at the moment).

Modifié par Zjarcal, 04 février 2011 - 02:23 .

[Addai]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

You base that on the cutscene?
That is not sufficient enough to prove that the Warden is needed to kill it. The game ignores it, at least when it's relevent for the decision to make the DR. Morrigan makes absolutely no mention of it.

The game doesn't spell out the mythology behind it, but the game clearly has it set up that only a Warden can take the final blow.  Gaider's post just explains why.  edit:  Besides, no one knows if the DR is going to work.

Modifié par Addai67, 04 février 2011 - 02:21 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Addai67 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

You base that on the cutscene?
That is not sufficient enough to prove that the Warden is needed to kill it. The game ignores it, at least when it's relevent for the decision to make the DR. Morrigan makes absolutely no mention of it.

The game doesn't spell out the mythology behind it, but the game clearly has it set up that only a Warden can take the final blow.  Gaider's post just explains why.  edit:  Besides, no one knows if the DR is going to work.

That is before the DR is introduced. Riordan talks about it, but he does not know anythign about the DR, so what he says is moot.

If Morrigan thought it to be important info, she would have said it. She said the archdemon spirit will seek the child like a beacon. She did not specify that the spirit has to pass through the Warden in transit and then go to the child. I'd think that's too important of an info for Morrigan not to reveal.

She did not. So I ignore it, like the game itself ignored it.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 04 février 2011 - 02:33 .

[Addai]

Don't let me stop you. LOL Morrigan also doesn't say "ok you've done the DR, now you're clear." Rather she goes on acting as though she expects the Wardens to kill the archdemon. Since the game doesn't contradict it, what Gaider said is perfectly reasonable. BTW I think it was in the "What do darkspawn eat" thread in the DA2 forum but I'm not gonna trawl.

Modifié par Addai67, 04 février 2011 - 03:54 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Addai67 wrote...

Don't let me stop you. LOL Morrigan also doesn't say "ok you've done the DR, now you're clear." Rather she goes on acting as though she expects the Wardens to kill the archdemon. Since the game doesn't contradict it, what Gaider said is perfectly reasonable. BTW I think it was in the "What do darkspawn eat" thread in the DA2 forum but I'm not gonna trawl.

And where does it state that she expect the Warden to do it? She doesn't say anything.

What Gaider said, while could be reasonable outside of the game,  is irrelevent in the game itself. The game didn't bother to even remotely hint at it. Morrigan doesn't say a thing about it, while she should have, that's pretty relevent info. So I have no reason to believe it in the game.

[Addai]

And yet your Warden still acts like it's up to the Wardens to kill the AD? Whatever. I don't care. Someone was asking about Gaider's statement, I clarified from my memory of what he said. Since I wrote a story based on what he said, it was pretty fresh in my mind.

[erilben]

Addai67 wrote...

And yet your Warden still acts like it's up to the Wardens to kill the AD? Whatever. I don't care. Someone was asking about Gaider's statement, I clarified from my memory of what he said. Since I wrote a story based on what he said, it was pretty fresh in my mind.

Well Morrigan could be wrong or lying that the DR will work, so you still want a Warden to kill the AD.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Addai67 wrote...

And yet your Warden still acts like it's up to the Wardens to kill the AD? Whatever. I don't care. Someone was asking about Gaider's statement, I clarified from my memory of what he said. Since I wrote a story based on what he said, it was pretty fresh in my mind.

 If he did, it was after the choice (because the game forces me), so it's moot to the decision making.

If the game wanted me to take it into consideration, have Morrigan specify it.
While Gaider's comment is useful and of course, WoG when it comes to the lore, when the game doesn't bother to hint this during the decision making process vis a vis something that is clearly unprecedented (so no past references or codexes for me to refer to. Nor do Riordan's words carry much relevence), then meh. No way to include it when I was making the decision. 

[RagingCyclone]

Sorry, Cat, been busy today, but it's still Thursday in this country, so here is what you wanted. If you want the smexy Rage, Yankee has that pic.

[Catspaw]

Thank you Rage!! Now I can have a good drool! Had to wait until the darkspawn left for school to see these. Love you!! *kisses*

Every time I see that pic, I have a difficult time forming words.

"Nope, Ali, I don't care how much you hate her, you're doing the DR. I am not wasting a tush like that"

[sevalaricgirl]

Alistair discussion while I'm waiting for stuff to copy to a backup hd. My favorite ending for Alistair is an unhardened Alistair, Anora takes the throne and Alistair stays as a GW. He only leaves his loves side to go to Highever to memorialize Duncan. Here's the reason. Thirty years is a long time. Think about it. He and the femWarden are in their early 20s. Alistair has only been a GW for 6 months longer than the warden. So when and if they go to their calling, they'll end up going together so even in the end they'll be together. Now if I'm not metagaming and playing a mage which I normally do, my warden trusts Morrigan. My warden never wanted to be in the circle, helps Jowan and stands up for him even after she finds that he's a blood mage. She's not a blood mage, she's a healer and an arcane warrior, she's a good mage but understand what friendship means. The templars and the chantry on the other hand have rubbed her the wrong way. Anyway, she trusts Morrigan and though Morrigan has an attitude problem, she understands her. Who wouldn't have an attitude problem being hunted by templars all the damned time. Since my warden trusts Morrigan, she believes that Morrigan will do the right thing by raising OGB and convinces Alistair to do the DR because as I said before, 30 years is a long time and to have happiness for 30 years for both Alistair and my warden, doing what they love to do, protecting Fereldon, is a very happy ending and fits in with Awakening much better than any other ending. Awakening takes place shortly after DAO so it is conceivable to Alistair is in Highever when Anora asks the warden to go to Vigil's Keep/Amaranthine and conceivable that since Alistair is in Highever he is taking a leave of absence from the GWs temporarily to do his own business so femWarden is considered the only living GW in all of Fereldon. The seneschal doens't know about Alistair just like Rhiordan, though he had Duncan's recruiting records, didn't know about femWarden being a warden. Just my early morning thoughts.



BTW, my warden can't bring herself to romance anyone else but Alistair. Heck, maybe it's his voice, or his charming demeanor. She loves Zev to pieces and it glad he wants to stay with her and the GWs but she can never seem to romance him, even though he is morphed into a cute Zev. Alistair it is for me all the time. Now off to work for me. Have a good day.