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[Glorfindel709]

I have a pretty simple and efficient way to get the people of Thedas to go after the Darkspawn. Self preservation, and the reveal of how Darkspawn are made. It's not common knowledge in any sense of the word, not even the Dwarves of Orzammar, the people most experienced with fighting them knew about them from what we gather in game.

Tell people that the Darkspawn gain their numbers by stealing their women, violating them in horrible acts that would curdle the blood of even the most hardened warrior, and they will come. The Chantry might even consider it an unholy abomination and try for a type of Exalted March (especially with how women in Andrastian culture tend to be put on a pedastal as the priests and the Prophetess.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

And your insane plan to cart off women to the darkspawn is any better?
Where you are going to let them build up their own power to reach whatever end they want?

No, since there will be a quota for it. They will not recieve more than they need. Since their mortality rate is going to be low, they will not require many women. One can produce thousands in her lifetime. So the amount they will need to sustain themselves, unless they are at war, is going to be very minimal.  

Self-fullfilling prophecy? Showing aggression at a people, species whatever you want to call them that just develop sentience and will be almost like lost children is asking them to build up their power and respond in kind.

And if they do decide to go to war anyways, then we can have your genocidal campaign that God knows how we are going to finance and sustain underground.

Giggles_Manically wrote...
You are taking just as much of a risk your way as I take going my way.
Dont try and sell it any different.

Now you are saying that? And yet still call my plan "insane"?

[Maricsblade]

errant_knight wrote...

OT/ Damn it, I just spent the last two and a half hours getting a frozen car started, digging out tire changing equipement and a spare from the trunk full of stuff (in -15 below weather) and now I can't figure out how to get the jack in a place where I can actually turn the handle to lift the car. Gah! /OT

So sorry, Errant. Things like that are why I'll never move back to a cold climate.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Glorfindel709 wrote...

I have a pretty simple and efficient way to get the people of Thedas to go after the Darkspawn. Self preservation

Yes, because we so did not see humans killing each other in the face of an existential threat. Or a people killing each other while a foreign power waited and got rid of all of them in time.

I think you understimate how short sighted people can be, especially when the threat you are talkign about is out of their immediate sight and very long term. It will only need one nation defecting, and all the others will be too scared to commit their forces underground.  

[Tigress M]

Completely changing the subject for a moment to post a funny. I installed the perm summons mod for ranger summons and having a wolf around in some cutscenes is throwing off the party positioning. The result?

Zaphod comes to Dragon Age:

[lv12medic]

Sten has an armored Kangaroo Pouch?

[_Somebody]

alisgirl wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

OT/ Damn it, I just spent the last two and a half hours getting a frozen car started, digging out tire changing equipement and a spare from the trunk full of stuff (in -15 below weather) and now I can't figure out how to get the jack in a place where I can actually turn the handle to lift the car. Gah! /OT

So sorry, Errant. Things like that are why I'll never move back to a cold climate.

Texas is always so hot though, I went there many years ago, and it was like in the high 90's everyday.

I take cold weather anytime. 
Just no snow, had too much of that lately.

[Merilsell]

Whoa, tigress, that is seriously scary O___O

[Addai]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...
His screw ups started a blight and the Awakening crisis.
Sorry but those are not minor events that you can go "whatevs" and move on from.

The blight would have happened anyhow. Even if he had only 1% chance to prevent it, it would be justified rather than do nothing.

There is something you're not mentioning, and that is that in an Architect-enhanced Blight, darkspawn will be more powerful and will have intelligence.  In fact it wouldn't even take a Blight for that to be a disaster.  Amaranthine was nearly destroyed by two warring factions of darkspawn and no archdemon.  What happens when the new Disciples don't want to stay in the Deep Roads anymore and decide to take the best surface land they can find?

It is not 1% to prevent what might happen anyway, rather, 1% chance to prevent disaster, 98% chance to cause even greater disasters than humanity has ever known and maybe 1% for something in the middle.

Modifié par Addai67, 17 février 2011 - 11:35 .

[Maricsblade]

Somebody wrote...

alisgirl wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

OT/ Damn it, I just spent the last two and a half hours getting a frozen car started, digging out tire changing equipement and a spare from the trunk full of stuff (in -15 below weather) and now I can't figure out how to get the jack in a place where I can actually turn the handle to lift the car. Gah! /OT

So sorry, Errant. Things like that are why I'll never move back to a cold climate.

Texas is always so hot though, I went there many years ago, and it was like in the high 90's everyday.

I take cold weather anytime. 
Just no snow, had too much of that lately.

Texas summers SUCK and I hate them with a passion. Especially since the last two years it's been 100 degrees by the second week in June. But I will take sweat over having to dig my car out of the snow, getting stuck on Lakeshore Drive in Chicago for 12 hours, risking freezing to death, breaking my @55 slipping on patches of ice...you name it.

[Maricsblade]

@Tigress -- Poor Alistair must be terrified. He always was afraid of teh Sten.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Addai67 wrote...
There is something you're not mentioning, and that is that in an Architect-enhanced Blight, darkspawn will be more powerful and will have intelligence.

What happens when the new Disciples don't want to stay in the
Deep Roads anymore and decide to take the best surface land they can
find?

A contradiction, blights can only happen with Archdemons in command and the rest following mindlessly. 
And like I said earlier, I prefer an enemy that can show fear, doubt and is susceptible to morale, than fight mindless hordes that can know no fear, hesitation or restraint, and who can still show a grasp of tactics and intelligence (collective intelligence vs individual. They use stealth, ambushes. Feign and preemptive attacks....etc). 

If you mean Awakened Darkspawn invasions. Why? What for? Why do they need "the best surface land they can find"? They don't eat, they don't need agriculture or land fit for pastoral activity. So what for?

In addition, in response to your percentages, if the last archdemon is slain, chances are it will still produce the same result, only more disastrous as it will be the darkspawn gaining sentience abruptly, in the middle of a war and without guidance.

All this I have already said (so yes, I already mentionned all this), and I grow tired of repeating myself, so I'd prefer it if you woud read my previous posts. The concept has been dropped anyhow and Awakening made irrlevent, so I fail to see the point in discussing it further.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 17 février 2011 - 11:45 .

[errant_knight]

alisgirl wrote...

Somebody wrote...

alisgirl wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

OT/ Damn it, I just spent the last two and a half hours getting a frozen car started, digging out tire changing equipement and a spare from the trunk full of stuff (in -15 below weather) and now I can't figure out how to get the jack in a place where I can actually turn the handle to lift the car. Gah! /OT

So sorry, Errant. Things like that are why I'll never move back to a cold climate.

Texas is always so hot though, I went there many years ago, and it was like in the high 90's everyday.

I take cold weather anytime. 
Just no snow, had too much of that lately.

Texas summers SUCK and I hate them with a passion. Especially since the last two years it's been 100 degrees by the second week in June. But I will take sweat over having to dig my car out of the snow, getting stuck on Lakeshore Drive in Chicago for 12 hours, risking freezing to death, breaking my @55 slipping on patches of ice...you name it.

The tire is now changed thanks to a very nice new neighbor who is a mechanic. He was just walking by and stopped to help! Turns out I was doing it wrong. Unlike my previous vehicle, this one's jack is meant to lift from the side of the body, not underneath. D'oh! Now I just have to wait until another neighbor with an air compressor in the garage gets home and I can find out what's going on with the tire. Fingers crossed!

[Maricsblade]

errant_knight wrote...

alisgirl wrote...

Somebody wrote...

alisgirl wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

OT/ Damn it, I just spent the last two and a half hours getting a frozen car started, digging out tire changing equipement and a spare from the trunk full of stuff (in -15 below weather) and now I can't figure out how to get the jack in a place where I can actually turn the handle to lift the car. Gah! /OT

So sorry, Errant. Things like that are why I'll never move back to a cold climate.

Texas is always so hot though, I went there many years ago, and it was like in the high 90's everyday.

I take cold weather anytime. 
Just no snow, had too much of that lately.

Texas summers SUCK and I hate them with a passion. Especially since the last two years it's been 100 degrees by the second week in June. But I will take sweat over having to dig my car out of the snow, getting stuck on Lakeshore Drive in Chicago for 12 hours, risking freezing to death, breaking my @55 slipping on patches of ice...you name it.

The tire is now changed thanks to a very nice new neighbor who is a mechanic. He was just walking by and stopped to help! Turns out I was doing it wrong. Unlike my previous vehicle, this one's jack is meant to lift from the side of the body, not underneath. D'oh! Now I just have to wait until another neighbor with an air compressor in the garage gets home and I can find out what's going on with the tire. Fingers crossed!

Wow, you are still so much more competent than I am. My answer was always to call Triple-A. 

[Maricsblade]

My turn for an O/T post. My game is so freaking buggy. I've got PCs who aren't even rogues getting attacked by Howe's men for stealing from him (during the "Crime Wave" that this non-rogue PC never could have participated in). Really sloppy programming, it seems.

[Glorfindel709]

@KoP You've ignored my suggestion to give them reason to want to fight the Darkspawn. Nothing galvanizes people into action like a perceived threat and someone to blame.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Glorfindel709 wrote...

@KoP You've ignored my suggestion to give them reason to want to fight the Darkspawn. Nothing galvanizes people into action like a perceived threat and someone to blame.

I did respond, it's the fourth post on this page.

[Sarah1281]

Even if he is lying, you seem to overestimate what he can do. What could he possibly do worse than starting a blight that is going to happen anyhow?

Presumably the next Blight won't occur naturally within a generation of the fifth one.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Even if he is lying, you seem to overestimate what he can do. What could he possibly do worse than starting a blight that is going to happen anyhow?

Presumably the next Blight won't occur naturally within a generation of the fifth one.

I actually think it would be better if a blight happened sooner rather than later. If it takes too long, the surface will grow complacent. It got off very lucky this time, considering how this blight was nothing like those preceeding it.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 18 février 2011 - 12:36 .

[Glorfindel709]

I think that nations would be rather more willing to do offer their forces to something that can and will be a true menace to their women.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Glorfindel709 wrote...

I think that nations would be rather more willing to do offer their forces to something that can and will be a true menace to their women.

A tad bit optimistic, don't you think? There have been equally horrific offenses and people stood by and did nothing.

But eh, none of this is important anyhow. I doubt the choice will be relevent in the future, the concept was dropped.

[Lady Jess]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Even if he is lying, you seem to overestimate what he can do. What could he possibly do worse than starting a blight that is going to happen anyhow?

Presumably the next Blight won't occur naturally within a generation of the fifth one.

I actually think it would be better if a blight happened sooner rather than later. If it takes too long, the surface will grow complacent. It got off very lucky this time, considering how this blight was nothing like those preceeding it.

Thats because this one never BECAME a blight. We stopped it before it started. Luckily for Thedas.  It's not that it wasn't as bad, it's only by our uberness that it stopped before it was fully formed. We killed the Archdemon as soon as it showed itself. 

[KnightofPhoenix]

Lady Jess wrote...
Thats because this one never BECAME a blight. We stopped it before it started. Luckily for Thedas.  It's not that it wasn't as bad, it's only by our uberness that it stopped before it was fully formed. We killed the Archdemon as soon as it showed itself. 

Previous blights showed up in different countries at the same time and ravaged them before any response could be mustered in time. This archdemon was stupid, why did it go out again?

But this sounds like nit-picking. In either case, Thedas was very lucky. 

Oh and good news folk. I continued my Arcturus Cousland PC playthrough after I paused for 2 months. Um...yea.



Telling pic, speaks a thousand words. Would be adequate for a prompt.

[Lady Jess]

*closes her eyes and ears and loudly sings LALALALALA because Kasha cannot take her sweetie being...I CANNOT SAY IT!!*

Modifié par Lady Jess, 18 février 2011 - 01:24 .

[rak72]