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[errant_knight]

Lady Mimzy wrote...

Is it just me? I still can't bring myself to recruit Loghain and have poor Ali marry Anora or let Anora excute him even if it is just to complete the trophies. =(

But then I can't kill the dalish or spoil the ashes either. Just goes against the grain and don't like getting the eyebrow of doom I guess.

Same here. It doesn't happen. I can have my PC walk away from the relationship, if female, but I can't have him/her spare Loghain or marry Alistair to Anora. I just don't want to do it, so.... Yeah.

[Elysis]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

You're part of the intelligent pragmatists clan my dear.

*fistbump*

The thing is, I don't see sparing him as pragmatic. I see it as logical. All character background/goals and other grey matters aside, four wardens is better then three is not?
Sparing him is basic survival. You want your Warden and Alistair to have a better chance at having a happy ever after? SPARE LOGHAIN. Of course, such a plan goes down the drain since Ali bails out.
Survival. Logic. Sometimes I wonder if people's hypothalamus work properly.

Oh but this subject makes me go into rant mode. Don't mind me...

[Wulfram]

Marrying Alistair to Anora is too logical a solution to the civil war for me to resist, so he only gets out of it if I spare Loghain and he's unhardened or the Warden wants to be Queen herself.

Sparing Loghain can be fun because it's refreshing to have a companion my warden really hates. Racking up double figure disapprovals after a single conversation is entertaining.

[Maria13]

errant_knight wrote...

Lady Mimzy wrote...

Is it just me? I still can't bring myself to recruit Loghain and have poor Ali marry Anora or let Anora excute him even if it is just to complete the trophies. =(

But then I can't kill the dalish or spoil the ashes either. Just goes against the grain and don't like getting the eyebrow of doom I guess.

Same here. It doesn't happen. I can have my PC walk away from the relationship, if female, but I can't have him/her spare Loghain or marry Alistair to Anora. I just don't want to do it, so.... Yeah.

I really don't understand the people who would do such a reprehensible thing in order to complete the trophies. What are trophies compared to integrity, morality and honour?

Modifié par Maria13, 14 juin 2011 - 04:53 .

[nos_astra]

Wulfram wrote...
Sparing Loghain can be fun because it's refreshing to have a companion my warden really hates. Racking up double figure disapprovals after a single conversation is entertaining.

Absolutely.

[Yankee23]

Maria13 wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

Lady Mimzy wrote...

Is it just me? I still can't bring myself to recruit Loghain and have poor Ali marry Anora or let Anora excute him even if it is just to complete the trophies. =(

But then I can't kill the dalish or spoil the ashes either. Just goes against the grain and don't like getting the eyebrow of doom I guess.

Same here. It doesn't happen. I can have my PC walk away from the relationship, if female, but I can't have him/her spare Loghain or marry Alistair to Anora. I just don't want to do it, so.... Yeah.

I really don't understand the people who would do such a reprehensible thing in order to complete the trophies. What are trophies compared to integrity, morality and honour?

Sometimes the fun of playing a game is trying out different things or collecting the achievements and there is nothing wrong with that.  I think it's a little unfair to imply that the player's choices are reprehensible or that they lack integrity, morality or honor. Let's debate all the possible reasons a warden has to spare or not spare Loghain, which we've done in here to no end, but commenting on someone's enjoyment of collecting achievements has no place in the discussion.  This isn’t the DA2 forums.

[cmessaz]

Yankee23 wrote...

Maria13 wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

Lady Mimzy wrote...

Is it just me? I still can't bring myself to recruit Loghain and have poor Ali marry Anora or let Anora excute him even if it is just to complete the trophies. =(

But then I can't kill the dalish or spoil the ashes either. Just goes against the grain and don't like getting the eyebrow of doom I guess.

Same here. It doesn't happen. I can have my PC walk away from the relationship, if female, but I can't have him/her spare Loghain or marry Alistair to Anora. I just don't want to do it, so.... Yeah.

I really don't understand the people who would do such a reprehensible thing in order to complete the trophies. What are trophies compared to integrity, morality and honour?

Sometimes the fun of playing a game is trying out different things or collecting the achievements and there is nothing wrong with that.  I think it's a little unfair to imply that the player's choices are reprehensible or that they lack integrity, morality or honor. Let's debate all the possible reasons a warden has to spare or not spare Loghain, which we've done in here to no end, but commenting on someone's enjoyment of collecting achievements has no place in the discussion.  This isn’t the DA2 forums.

LOL, yeah....let's not get like the DA2 forums please. And tbh...since my canon spared Loghain, it's a bit insulting?

I love Alistair, but I also love Loghain as a character. I did both ways when I played. I have also killed the Dalish, annuled the circle, killed Connor and Isolde, and spared the anvil. I can rp about anything, well poisoning the ashes is a bit of a mystery to me...but still. I don't find sparing Loghain to be "reprehensable" personally, but that is an argument I won't get into again. Point is, it's a game and I was able to rp it differently each playthrough, otherwise Origins wouldn't have kept me occupied as long as it did.

[Jon Jern_]

Are we alive again?

[Merilsell]

Yeah, I get that. I still haven't had a character that was...let's say... different enough to spare Loghain, though.

The one time I did for the achievement (yeah I know, lol) my Warden totally hated his guts. I think she sung "Oh Happy Day" as Archie munched on Loghain's soul. *whistles*

[cmessaz]

Merilsell wrote...

Yeah, I get that. I still haven't had a character that was...let's say... different enough to spare Loghain, though.
 

"Different"? Ok.....I will try not to be insulted by that since 3 of my characters spared him. 2 fed him to archi because I DO feel he needs to redeem....

Anyway, so whats new in the Alistair fandome while I've been away?

[LadyDamodred]

cmessaz wrote...
Anyway, so whats new in the Alistair fandome while I've been away?

I was wondering the exact same thing. 

[Thor Rand Al]

LadyDamodred wrote...

cmessaz wrote...
Anyway, so whats new in the Alistair fandome while I've been away?

I was wondering the exact same thing. 

I'll third this.  Anything hot n sexy goin on with our favorite Alistair

[Zjarcal]

Maria13 wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

Lady Mimzy wrote...

Is it just me? I still can't bring myself to recruit Loghain and have poor Ali marry Anora or let Anora excute him even if it is just to complete the trophies. =(

But then I can't kill the dalish or spoil the ashes either. Just goes against the grain and don't like getting the eyebrow of doom I guess.

Same here. It doesn't happen. I can have my PC walk away from the relationship, if female, but I can't have him/her spare Loghain or marry Alistair to Anora. I just don't want to do it, so.... Yeah.

I really don't understand the people who would do such a reprehensible thing in order to complete the trophies. What are trophies compared to integrity, morality and honour?

Yeah... we are all HORRIBLE BASTARDS for sparing Loghain. We have zero integrity, morality, and honour. Zip, nada. We are morally bankrupt!!!

...

Right. <_<

Elysis wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

You're part of the intelligent pragmatists clan my dear. 

*fistbump*

*fistbumps as well*

Modifié par Zjarcal, 14 juin 2011 - 08:55 .

[Elysis]

^ Ah. I do love the internet. :lol:

[Merilsell]

cmessaz wrote...

Merilsell wrote...

Yeah, I get that. I still haven't had a character that was...let's say... different enough to spare Loghain, though.
 

"Different"? Ok.....I will try not to be insulted by that since 3 of my characters spared him. 2 fed him to archi because I DO feel he needs to redeem....

Err, different as in playing different, nothing more. Try not to see an insult in every of my wording, please. And to eleborate: Normally I always end the game with Alistair at my Warden's side, not only because I prefer it that way, but also it fitted my characters so far best.

Different as in a character that likes Loghain and spares him due to that. Different as in a character willing to sacrify her fellow Warden for Loghain. And yes, I haven't found that character that differs from my other characters in that way yet. 

I hope that was clear enough now

[moogie1963]

I have tried all options,already from curiosity.After doing bad things i deleted my caracter,i could not play it anymore.
Alistar married to anora or making her queen i never do after i heard the conversation between erlina and the cook.

[cmessaz]

I guess it was your wording that threw me..."let's say....different" sounds kinda bad to me. Something like "I haven't found a good way to rp it" would be a bit different. Maybe I just read it wrong, not that big of deal. Frankly I'm not one who cares what other people do in their games. I just take offense to being told I'm immoral or whatever for doing something they don't agree with. I'm sure I wouldn't 100 percent agree with your rp either, and thats fine.

[Schratty]

I love Alistair. I love Loghain. The Landsmeet sucks no matter how you slice it.

[Merilsell]

cmessaz wrote...

I guess it was your wording that threw me..."let's say....different" sounds kinda bad to me. Something like "I haven't found a good way to rp it" would be a bit different. Maybe I just read it wrong, not that big of deal. Frankly I'm not one who cares what other people do in their games. I just take offense to being told I'm immoral or whatever for doing something they don't agree with. I'm sure I wouldn't 100 percent agree with your rp either, and thats fine.

Yeah, no offense taken/meant. My wording can be clunky at times, being no native speaker and all that.

However, You like to spare Loghain...well I don't because I couldn't care less for his character. That has nothing to do with condemning, but more with a heavy dose of indifference toward Loghain on my part. That is a different point of view and okay, because it would be boring otherwise. Matter of preference and all that jazz.

Also I like Alistair too much to do that to him (read: I don't have the heart for it. Hell, I have never killed him off either, so there is that) Stupid pixel man with his stupid puppy eyes, lol.

As for the different character, well personally (for me) I can picture a Cous or Male Dwarf doing that and some day in the future I'll be that brave to actually plan and roll a Loghain sympathizing, pragmatic character. Just now...not so much. Too busy with my FF, anyway.

Modifié par Merilsell, 14 juin 2011 - 10:57 .

[Merilsell]

This site needs an Alistair, though:

[cmessaz]

See I couldn't do it with my Cousland, and my Dalish got Warden Alistair. So it was always my Amells that wound up doing it...strangely. What makes it worse is that they always romanced Alistair. So it was heartbreaking, but that is how I like it. Yeah I guess I am weird.

Having said that, I need an Amell/Warden Alistair save for DA2 import, anyone got one? I don't care about decisions, just Anora sole ruler and Alistair romanced. I have my Dalish, Cousland and many Amells, but non of my mages got that ending D:

Edit: Sorry if I took it wrong, btw. Just the italisized "different" threw me off. Not trying to start an argument here. 

Modifié par cmessaz, 14 juin 2011 - 11:30 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

I didn't get any insulting vibe from merisell's post. There is another post that might have had that, but I wish I could care (not really, at best I wish that I wish I could care....ok maybe not even then).

[LadyDamodred]

Merilsell wrote...

This site needs an Alistair, though:
*snip*

Damn, he's fine looking.  I haven't played in so long that I've forgotten.  And DA2 Alistair is not nearly as good looking.  :/

[KnightofPhoenix]

Yankee23 wrote...
  I think it's a little unfair to imply that the player's choices are reprehensible or that they lack integrity, morality or honor.

I don't see why not. I mean, I wouldn't care (trust me, I couldn't be more oblivious), but I don't see why anyone can't say that.

If her opinion is that act x is reprehensible, then she has every right to say it. And if by implication she means that those who genuinely pick it out of convinction are reprehensible, then so be it. I'd expect those who do pick this option out of convinction would simply not care.

In otherwords, while respecting everyone is all fine and dandy, That shouldn't restrict expressing opinion. As politely as possible.

[Yankee23]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Yankee23 wrote...
  I think it's a little unfair to imply that the player's choices are reprehensible or that they lack integrity, morality or honor.

I don't see why not. I mean, I wouldn't care (trust me, I couldn't be more oblivious), but I don't see why anyone can't say that.

If her opinion is that act x is reprehensible, then she has every right to say it. And if by implication she means that those who genuinely pick it out of convinction are reprehensible, then so be it. I'd expect those who do pick this option out of convinction would simply not care.

In otherwords, while respecting everyone is all fine and dandy, That shouldn't restrict expressing opinion. As politely as possible.

You didn't quote the whole thing but my post was specifically referring to getting achievements. If someone wants to get all game achievements so be it, it's their choice. Expressing an opinion that certain actions in game would feel "reprehensible, lacking in integrity, morality or honor", to you or your warden is not what I was referring to but telling someone they are those things because of something they did for achievements is a little over the top and seems like an unecessary personal attack, imo...it's  a game.