Thanks for the welcome, Maria13! Loooooove the pic you posted. Mmmm.
The Alistair Gush Thread: *Squee*
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#34327
Posté 14 août 2011 - 08:14
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Gotta say, I love the resolution on those pics. HighRes!Alistair is always welcome in my browser. Thanks for the welcome, by the way. Can't wait to get back to playing DA:O... I've put myself on a Lent-esque PC gaming fast until my new desktop gets here.
#34328
Posté 14 août 2011 - 12:20
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@ merrisel: Awwww, thanks! Alistair doesn't need teh awesome button. He IS my awesome button.
#34330
Posté 14 août 2011 - 01:22
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A bit tamer than some of my other stuff, but: http://www.fanfictio.../Green_and_Gold
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#34331
Posté 14 août 2011 - 04:48
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@rak, @fyre - More than happy to share the HiRes!Alistair goodness! I'm between games right now - my insanely over-modded install went belly-up, and trying to figure out where the conflict is, is... painfully painful; sorting screenshots and this thread are all that's keeping me going.
Hostile!Alistair @ -100 Approval. Does it get any hotter than this?
Methinks not... my next Warden is going to keep him pissed-off from Ostagar all the way to Fort Drakon, just so I can watch him scowl.
~tsm
Hostile!Alistair @ -100 Approval. Does it get any hotter than this?
Methinks not... my next Warden is going to keep him pissed-off from Ostagar all the way to Fort Drakon, just so I can watch him scowl.~tsm
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#34333
Posté 14 août 2011 - 07:42
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I've seen that exchange on YouTube, but never a screenshot of it. I thought he couldn't work that eyebrow any harder than he does at the Landsmeet. Apparently, I was wrong.
@rak, @tsm -- Loving the Duncanstair mod but I don't like how PT Replacement changes all the other eye colors as well. Is there a way to have only Alistair's colors change (and those NPCs with his same eye color, I assume)? Would I just remove all others from the Replacement folder? Do I have to update the changemorph (sp?) file to reflect that? Thanks
@rak, @tsm -- Loving the Duncanstair mod but I don't like how PT Replacement changes all the other eye colors as well. Is there a way to have only Alistair's colors change (and those NPCs with his same eye color, I assume)? Would I just remove all others from the Replacement folder? Do I have to update the changemorph (sp?) file to reflect that? Thanks
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Posté 14 août 2011 - 07:49
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Hey, Alis girl
In my game, the Hazel eyes looked like a nice light brown with the PT replacement. People who didn't have it in were saying the looked muddy. I changed a bunch of eye colors to light brown. I think the Duncanstair uses Lgt brown. I think if you just take out the eyecolor replacements, it will still look good. I don't think you need to change the Charmor because the replacements aren,t adding anything, just changing what is already there.
In my game, the Hazel eyes looked like a nice light brown with the PT replacement. People who didn't have it in were saying the looked muddy. I changed a bunch of eye colors to light brown. I think the Duncanstair uses Lgt brown. I think if you just take out the eyecolor replacements, it will still look good. I don't think you need to change the Charmor because the replacements aren,t adding anything, just changing what is already there.
#34335
Posté 14 août 2011 - 07:56
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Thanks, Rak. I do like the replacement Hazel and Light Brown and am using the Hazel right now because the LBR looks too light to me in camp. I just don't like that every other NPC's changed too, so I'm gonna pull the other colors. Also, are his eyes always two-tone? Until this I thought Zevran was the only one who had eyes like that, but on Ali both the Hazel and LBR replacement look to me like they're lighter on one side than the other. Don't know if the variation is part of the eye color itself or part of the character's morph file.
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#34336
Posté 14 août 2011 - 07:59
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I just looked in the eye color replacement folder. You can take out all of the other colors besides Hazel and you should be good.
#34339
Posté 16 août 2011 - 06:47
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Missing the discussions there used to be on here. So, sorry for the re-hash, old-timers, but I want to know WHY the fandom hates Eamon so much.
Here are the facts I'm aware of (N00BS—MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD):
* gave Alistair to the Chantry at Isolde's insistence
* made Alistair sleep in the stables when he lived in Redcliffe
* made Alistair sleep with the dogs when he visited Denerim
* tried to convince Cailan to dump Anora and have a political marriage with Empress Celene
Am I missing anything else? To me he seems a royalist but not necessarily an arse, as the first three items can be explained in other ways (e.g., he's whipped/Isolde wears the pants). Just wondering if there are any other FACTS that I've missed or forgotten.
Here are the facts I'm aware of (N00BS—MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD):
* gave Alistair to the Chantry at Isolde's insistence
* made Alistair sleep in the stables when he lived in Redcliffe
* made Alistair sleep with the dogs when he visited Denerim
* tried to convince Cailan to dump Anora and have a political marriage with Empress Celene
Am I missing anything else? To me he seems a royalist but not necessarily an arse, as the first three items can be explained in other ways (e.g., he's whipped/Isolde wears the pants). Just wondering if there are any other FACTS that I've missed or forgotten.
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Posté 16 août 2011 - 07:42
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I don't think he tried to convince Cailan to have a political marriage with Celene although yeah, he did try convince Cailan to dump Anora.
Where's this conversation about Alistair sleeping with the dogs in Denerim? I don't remember this :X
As for my opinion... I may not like Eamon all of what he did to Alistair, but the true fault lies with Alistair's father. Like Alistair said, Eamon didn't HAVE to do even that much, and perhaps felt that he couldn't do more or it would risk suspicion ("WHY is Arl Eamon supporting some kid and treating him like a prince?"). I give him props for at least making sure Alistair was taken care of, and it seems like his heart was in the right place to a certain degree.
Where's this conversation about Alistair sleeping with the dogs in Denerim? I don't remember this :X
As for my opinion... I may not like Eamon all of what he did to Alistair, but the true fault lies with Alistair's father. Like Alistair said, Eamon didn't HAVE to do even that much, and perhaps felt that he couldn't do more or it would risk suspicion ("WHY is Arl Eamon supporting some kid and treating him like a prince?"). I give him props for at least making sure Alistair was taken care of, and it seems like his heart was in the right place to a certain degree.
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Posté 16 août 2011 - 08:04
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Going "la la la la I can't hear you" re the last point (as I don't think I've got there yet), but I have to say that the only point that really bothers me is the sleeping in the stables. Big old castle at Redcliffe, they couldn't find him a bed in the servant's quarters at the very least? I mean, I know he's a bastard but he's still a human child.
Though that said, I've certainly read stories elsewhere about royal bastards having to sleep in the stables (I'm thinking in particular of Robin Hobb's Farseer Trilogy).
Though that said, I've certainly read stories elsewhere about royal bastards having to sleep in the stables (I'm thinking in particular of Robin Hobb's Farseer Trilogy).
#34342
Posté 16 août 2011 - 08:08
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AmbraAlhambra wrote...
Where's this conversation about Alistair sleeping with the dogs in Denerim? I don't remember this :X
I think it's an Alister dialogue when you first go to Denerim? He talks about remembering when he was there as a child. It has to be relatively early, because I've had it but haven't got to Landsmeet yet.
#34343
Posté 16 août 2011 - 08:19
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It's a bark you may get outside of the Arl of Denerim's estate when doing the rescue the queen quest.
#34344
Posté 16 août 2011 - 08:21
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Eamon... Interesting question...
I don't quite hate on him like others do but to tell the truth he did very little to improve his nephew's hard lot... Not that he was primarily responsible. The prime responsibility belongs with the parents: Yes Maric King of Ferelden; Yes Fiona, mage of the circle and grey warden, I'm looking at you... Why didn't you do as proper parents should and take personal care of your offspring or at least check on him now and then? You both had a certain status, seems to me neither of you bothered to use it for your SON.
Anyways, Eamon is a tool... So he gets him a nice young trophy wife and uses her as an excuse to mistreat an innocent child... Not good. Then he tries to use him as a political instrument, unforgiveable given the fact that he initially abdicated all responsibilty for him by dumping him with the Chantry...
No-one comes out well in this tale in my view. Only Alistair himself who is still, despite everything, a very decent human being.
I don't quite hate on him like others do but to tell the truth he did very little to improve his nephew's hard lot... Not that he was primarily responsible. The prime responsibility belongs with the parents: Yes Maric King of Ferelden; Yes Fiona, mage of the circle and grey warden, I'm looking at you... Why didn't you do as proper parents should and take personal care of your offspring or at least check on him now and then? You both had a certain status, seems to me neither of you bothered to use it for your SON.
Anyways, Eamon is a tool... So he gets him a nice young trophy wife and uses her as an excuse to mistreat an innocent child... Not good. Then he tries to use him as a political instrument, unforgiveable given the fact that he initially abdicated all responsibilty for him by dumping him with the Chantry...
No-one comes out well in this tale in my view. Only Alistair himself who is still, despite everything, a very decent human being.
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Posté 16 août 2011 - 08:38
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How do I hate Eamon, let me count the ways (rushed and quasi-coherent version):
-His total disdain and lack of concern for Alistair as a person. Alistair is so incredibly damaged, and IMO, a huge portion of blame for the insecurity, neediness, defense mechanisms and lack of self-worth falls squarely on Eamon's shoulders. He accepted responsibility for the welfare of a child, and he shirked that responsibility when it became inconvenient. (As did both of Alistair's bio-parents. I'd hate on Maric too, if he were still around, FWIW.)
-He is either so incompetent or distant in his own familial relationships that he was oblivious to what was going on with his own wife and child. That, of course, results in the decimation of Redcliffe, and the diversion of the Wardens from what they should be doing: ending the Blight.
-He's an inept machinator. He clearly craves power, but doesn't want to be the 'face' for any of it, lest it go wrong. (And yes, I understand that is a function of the game's mechanics.)
-Something I forgot mid-thought because I had to answer the phone... it'll come to me, and I'll add it later.
~ tsm
-His total disdain and lack of concern for Alistair as a person. Alistair is so incredibly damaged, and IMO, a huge portion of blame for the insecurity, neediness, defense mechanisms and lack of self-worth falls squarely on Eamon's shoulders. He accepted responsibility for the welfare of a child, and he shirked that responsibility when it became inconvenient. (As did both of Alistair's bio-parents. I'd hate on Maric too, if he were still around, FWIW.)
-He is either so incompetent or distant in his own familial relationships that he was oblivious to what was going on with his own wife and child. That, of course, results in the decimation of Redcliffe, and the diversion of the Wardens from what they should be doing: ending the Blight.
-He's an inept machinator. He clearly craves power, but doesn't want to be the 'face' for any of it, lest it go wrong. (And yes, I understand that is a function of the game's mechanics.)
-Something I forgot mid-thought because I had to answer the phone... it'll come to me, and I'll add it later.
~ tsm
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#34346
Posté 16 août 2011 - 10:12
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Eamon's problem was that he cared about Alistair too much. Alistair would have been much happier if Eamon had simply treated him as the son of a maid and found some nice servant couple to look after him, never telling him who his father was.
As it was, Alistair was sometimes treated as part of the family and sometimes just as a servant's child.
As it was, Alistair was sometimes treated as part of the family and sometimes just as a servant's child.
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Posté 17 août 2011 - 12:14
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I don't see Alistair as particularly damaged at all. Quite the opposite. If anything, his general optimism and humor, as well as his strength in standing for what he believes in show how well he's come through adversity. He doesn't have a problem with his childhood sleeping arrangements, players do. He's forgiven Isolde for her mistreatment long ago, as he has Eamon's sending him to the Chantry. That's quite strong. When involved with the PC, he's gentlemanly, but not shy, and he takes a chance that would make most quail. The only area in which he doubts himself is leadership and that changes fairly easily with support. A year isn't much time to go from 'I could never lead' to 'I can be king. I didn't want it, but I've changed--I'm actually looking forward to it.' I see him as extremely resiliant and a strong, opinionated person.
Also, Maric was still alive right up through the time that Alistair went to the Chantry. I don't belirve that he didn't have a major voice in what happened to Alistair. And it wasn't Maric buying Alistair golem toys, it was Eamon. I think Maric wanted Alistair at the Chanty for some reason, and Isolde was just the reason a small boy come up with. If it was only about Isolde, Alistair could have gone to Teagan. Blaming Eamon for Isolde's fear of having a mage in the family, and for her lies, doesn't make much sense to me, nor for the results of Loghain poisoning him. If anyone created the Redcliffe situation, it was Loghain, with some help from Isolde.
Also, Maric was still alive right up through the time that Alistair went to the Chantry. I don't belirve that he didn't have a major voice in what happened to Alistair. And it wasn't Maric buying Alistair golem toys, it was Eamon. I think Maric wanted Alistair at the Chanty for some reason, and Isolde was just the reason a small boy come up with. If it was only about Isolde, Alistair could have gone to Teagan. Blaming Eamon for Isolde's fear of having a mage in the family, and for her lies, doesn't make much sense to me, nor for the results of Loghain poisoning him. If anyone created the Redcliffe situation, it was Loghain, with some help from Isolde.
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#34348
Posté 17 août 2011 - 12:40
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Hello, everyone. I just wanted to take a moment to introduce myself. I've been popping in and out of this thread for a few weeks now, but I have just come to terms with the fact that I am a "fangirl." It's taken a lot to admit this to myself as I'm nearing 30 (the term "fangirl" just sounds so teeny bopper), married, and have two boys. Nothing is wrong with my marriage, in fact, my husband has a similar sense of humor as Alistair's as well as a few other things in common. *sigh* This is still a struggle for me for some reason. lol. But I have to come to grips with the fact that I rush through other aspects of the game just so I can get back to camp and talk with my favorite Warden, downloaded game mods and armor sets just because I think they would look amazing on Alistair, and spend numerous hours looking at fan art.
So...yeah...I'm a noob. I may not know all the ins and outs, so be patient with me. But I'm tired of lurking in the shadows and I want to gush over Alistair with other gamers!
So...yeah...I'm a noob. I may not know all the ins and outs, so be patient with me. But I'm tired of lurking in the shadows and I want to gush over Alistair with other gamers!
#34349
Posté 17 août 2011 - 12:47
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gingergen wrote...
Though that said, I've certainly read stories elsewhere about royal bastards having to sleep in the stables (I'm thinking in particular of Robin Hobb's Farseer Trilogy).
I love the Farseer and Tawny Man Trilogies!
Edit: Welcome Java! No shame needed over pixel crushes! And you'll find that your not in the minority with your age either, I'm 37!
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#34350
Posté 17 août 2011 - 12:51
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Gah...I quoted myself!
brb with some pics!
Edit: Hmm...I don't think our new friends have seen these...
brb with some pics!
Edit: Hmm...I don't think our new friends have seen these...
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