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[tklivory]

Merilsell wrote...

DOOO EEEET

Lenya is way too demanding lately that I could write stories on the side. That and my lack of focus on one thing for too long. It is a curse to get so easily distr-- ....OH LOOK A SQUIRREL! *runs away*

*cracks whip* Lenya!  Write!  Now!  No excuses!  No distractions!

EDIT:
Aack, ToP?   All right, an ooooooooldie but goodie because I like it:

Modifié par tklivory, 16 octobre 2011 - 02:48 .

[csfteeeer]

erilben wrote...

tklivory wrote...

This must be the GW ending, maybe drunkistair, definitely not King Alistair.

Gaider says it's King Alistair: https://twitter.com/...355811768766464
Do Kings not have anything better to do ?

So.... it's NOT a canonization(that's a word right?)?

What the **** are they doing then?

if it's NOT a canonization then it's just a waste of time.


On another topic..... WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS?

[rak72]

I am not at all pleased with this. Just leave me alone with my semi happy ending, I'm so sick of dragon age right now.

[tklivory]

rak72 wrote...

I am not at all pleased with this. Just leave me alone with my semi happy ending, I'm so sick of dragon age right now.

So let's talk about something better.  What is your semi happy ending?  I haven't settled on what my 'best' ending is yet as I'm mildly OCD and definitely HFA, so I can't make that decision until I've played all the Origins with both genders and...

Ahem.  Anyway.

So I like to ask other people about their choices and endings.  So please share?

An Alistair bribe, one of my favorite Fan Arts:

by Batasha Tasha

[rak72]

I like my princess Cous Cous & King Al. ^ That's a cute picture

[RagingCyclone]

My ending (going by the Dan And Alistair stories I write) Dan is with Leliana (this was already destroyed by DA2) and Alistair is king who eventually marries Dan's cousin Maggie (my queen Cousland run).

[tklivory]

RagingCyclone wrote...

My ending (going by the Dan And Alistair stories I write) Dan is with Leliana (this was already destroyed by DA2) and Alistair is king who eventually marries Dan's cousin Maggie (my queen Cousland run).

I haven't played DA2 yet, but ouch.  Really?  Leliana as LI doesn't carry over AT ALL??

My poor Kara... She wuvs Leliana so muches... 

[RagingCyclone]

She's working for the chantry and is basically the main Seeker...she only mentions the warden was dear to her heart...that's about it.

[Penarddun]

tklivory wrote...
Speculation in other threads say that a Witch of the Wilds is also mentioned.  So now Flemeth, Morrigan, and/or OGB are now to be brought in the mix too?

Yep, I was there, and I can confirm Gaider did mention "Witch of the Wilds" in association with the new comic. As well as stating this would be looking into Alistair's past. Also, someone mentioned Flemeth, but I'm not sure whose voice that was. I got distracted by the comic art that popped up on the projection screen.

@Maria, thanks for the question suggestion. I didn't get to ask it though, because they ran out of time. Ah well.

tklivory wrote...
What is your semi happy ending?

Hmm, as a female Warden, it would be either Alistair as King and Warden as Princess consort, OR Anora on the throne and Alistair and the Warden continue to be Grey Wardens and help people, go on other adventures, etc. I feel bad putting Alistair on the throne by himself, even hardened. And marrying him to Anora? It broke my heart when he tries to grab her hand at the coronation and she pulls it away. I just can't believe he could possibly be happy as King without the Warden beside him.

If I played a male Warden, I think I would find a semi-happy ending by romancing Morrigan, following her in the mirror, and leaving Alistair as a Grey Warden. He just seems to be so good at being a Warden. And I can see him moving up in the Grey Warden ranks and doing a lot of good that way, as Duncan did.

I think I expanded a bit much on the question already, but the other ending I found semi-happy is if as a male mage, making the ultimate sacrifice and then by doing so having the mages get a new tower, named after him, and a chance to govern themselves... but does that get taken back in DA2? (I thought I read somewhere that if the mage makes the ultimate sacrifice it turns out a bit better for the mages, but that may have just been wishful thinking on my part).

Modifié par Penarddun, 16 octobre 2011 - 04:23 .

[tklivory]

RagingCyclone wrote...

She's working for the chantry and is basically the main Seeker...she only mentions the warden was dear to her heart...that's about it.

*Hugs Leliana plushie close* Don't worry, nothing will separate you from Kara.

[tklivory]

Penarddun wrote...

tklivory wrote...
Speculation in other threads say that a Witch of the Wilds is also mentioned.  So now Flemeth, Morrigan, and/or OGB are now to be brought in the mix too?

Yep, I was there, and I can confirm Gaider did mention "Witch of the Wilds" in association with the new comic. As well as stating this would be looking into Alistair's past. Also, someone mentioned Flemeth, but I'm not sure whose voice that was. I got distracted by the comic art that popped up on the projection screen.

@Maria, thanks for the question suggestion. I didn't get to ask it though, because they ran out of time. Ah well.

Didn't Flemeth meet Maric in one of the books?  How old is Alistair again?

(i keed, i REALLY keed)

Flemeth is an interesting character.  In my head I have an extremely strange and esoteric AU FF explaining the nature of her change from humanity.

But, mention Witch of the Wild and hint at dragons... I think Flemeth more than Morrigan, and definitely OGB.

So - is Flemeth human, or a dragon that assumed the form?  That would be fun.

edit for no haz brain

Modifié par tklivory, 16 octobre 2011 - 04:15 .

[Lenimph]

I must say Alistair caught my eye in that drawing for that new comic... will be interesting to see how Gaider will make him interact with Varric... and Isabela... >.>

Also Rage is butt hurt the Leliana cameo in the Sebastian dlc is cool and I find her other cameo at the end reassuring.

Leliana cameos... Leliana cameos everywhere (in comparison to the other LI's anyway)

[tklivory]

AmbraAlhambra wrote...

My happy ending is in the slightly AU that I write in my fanfic with Aedan Cousland as the Warden and Alistair marries his little sister Brenna. Cuz I need my happy ending even if it's just in my head :wub:

I'm a hopeless romantic... what can I say?

Nothin' wrong with that... unless you are David Gaider, that is.

Modifié par tklivory, 16 octobre 2011 - 05:51 .

[Maria13]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHH MAKERRRRRRRRRRR!

Such good news that Alistair will still be around.

Frankly I always thought he would end up in Antiva or the Free Marches checking out the vinyards...

Actually there was a story idea I haven't yet fully developed "A. Theirin: Import/Export" warden Alistair ending whereby after a few hard years abroad (Isabella takes him away from Denerim...) he ends up with a little business in Antiva/Free Marches exporting Antivan wines and importing... Mabaris!

Anyway... Perhaps I could fit it into this prompt... Hmmm...

[tklivory]

@AmbraAlhambra - Loved your fill! Besotted couples give me *squee* vibes. I love reading stories that take place in those moments between love internally acknowledged and love externally confessed. It's a wonderful mixture of vulnerability and confidence that you captured quite aptly in your story. Thank you for sharing!

Oh, and you can count me in to be around to read your FF when it's done!


EDIT:
@Maria - After my initial resistence to the idea of the comic (as shown in my reactions above and scattered throughout the forums ), I have decided I am cautiously excited that an 'official' Alistair story is coming out of Bioware (which means they haven't completely abandoned the character).  I'm just afraid to get really excited about it because... well, I don't want to be disappointed again.  Now, I'm worried more about the art than anything.  I'm an avid comic book collector/reader, and I'm very picky about comic book art (I lean more towards B&W and less 'superhero' art, TBH).  IDW has been very hit and miss with their licensed books, so I'm nervous about that too.

I look forward to reading your fill.  The idea you teased sounds fun, but I know I'll enjoy whatever you write!

Modifié par tklivory, 16 octobre 2011 - 10:04 .

[Maria13]

@Tkl thanks for the thumbs up? Errrr, there was a prompt some weeks ago was there not of "Everything in its place..."? Or is my imagination running away with me again.

@Pen oh well! What happened though?

@Leniph Leli is awesome too and I like her appearance in DA2... I just wished Ali and Zev looked as good as she did.

[tklivory]

Maria13 wrote...

@Tkl thanks for the thumbs up? Errrr, there was a prompt some weeks ago was there not of "Everything in its place..."? Or is my imagination running away with me again.

I think there was.  My thumbs up was more along the lines of 'I've read your fills before and loved them, please make moar'.   And the tease I was talking about was this:

Maria13 wrote...
Actually there was a story idea I haven't yet fully developed "A. Theirin: Import/Export" warden Alistair ending whereby after a few hard years abroad (Isabella takes him away from Denerim...) he ends up with a little business in Antiva/Free Marches exporting Antivan wines and importing... Mabaris!

That's all. Sorry to confuse ya!

Modifié par tklivory, 16 octobre 2011 - 11:43 .

[RagingCyclone]

Ambra...great fill.

Regarding the comic...my thoughts are why the use of characters from the games. I would rather the comics expand/explore the lore and world of Thedas using new faces and characters. For me it just seems like a limited imagination to use the same characters over and over to explore an entire world that has thousands of potential protagonists the see the world...and new perspectives. I just view using the same characters over and over as a wasted opportunity.

[Merilsell]

I'm torn with this. On the one side, I'm happy to see Alistair again, in whatever form however, and believe the snark is strong in this comic....but on the other hand I also agree with Rage. o.O

Neat prompt-fill, Ambra. I do love me some fluff at times Especially with the drama fest, I currently have in my own story.

[csfteeeer]

RagingCyclone wrote...

Ambra...great fill.

Regarding the comic...my thoughts are why the use of characters from the games. I would rather the comics expand/explore the lore and world of Thedas using new faces and characters. For me it just seems like a limited imagination to use the same characters over and over to explore an entire world that has thousands of potential protagonists the see the world...and new perspectives. I just view using the same characters over and over as a wasted opportunity.

i SORTA agree with you.

but, there are differences between a new story and an unfinished one.

This is a new story, hence, no need for a character from the game(unless it's something that has to be canonized. and this isn't the case).

Changing protagonist during an unfinished story however(like for example, leaving Hawke as the responsible for the mage war but changing him/her out of nowhere), it's considered Deus Ex Machina.

[RagingCyclone]

Been busy...busier than I thought I would be. Here is one where the belief part of the prompt plays out a little between Dan and Alistair...and then again between Alistair and Morrigan. Enjoy:

A New Blade…
The former Templar sat on the porch of the small home in Redcliffe sharpening his sword with his whetstone. The house had belonged to a family who did not survive the first night of the attacks by walking corpses that had been sent by Connor while he was possessed. The group had been offered rooms at the castle, but they had declined. He and Dan preferred to stay in the village around the townsfolk they had fought alongside to protect a couple of weeks before. They were simple folk, but proud. The two wardens respected them greatly, and after talking realized people like these villagers would be the ones who would pay the most and fight the most in the upcoming Blight. But there was also Isolde, Arl Eamon’s wife. Eamon was still unconscious, and the Arlessa harbored ill feelings towards Alistair personally. Dan was more than willing to join Alistair in the village and forgo the castle because he too had a dislike for the woman finding her too self centered which was a trait Dan said reminded him of himself before Ostagar and was something he wanted to put behind him. So the group stayed in two adjacent houses in the village. Dan, Leliana, and Morrigan shared the house formally occupied by the girl Kaitlyn and her brother Bevin. After their first visit the two had left for Denerim using the five sovereigns Dan had given them to start a new life. In return she had given him the keys to her house to use whenever they returned to the village. Murdock, the mayor of the village, had reserved the adjacent house that Alistair, Sten, and Zevran stayed in. Only Wynne had opted to stay at the castle watching over Eamon and trying different healing spells she knew to try and revive the Arl.
The day was nice and warm, and Alistair had skipped donning a shirt while he sat on the porch sharpening his blade. He had been meticulously working on the blade for an hour and had begun to sweat. Beads ran down along his muscular arms and torso. He noticed that the street they were located in had a lot of traffic. Several women had walked past him while he labored with his sword. They smiled and giggled at him, some even waving to him as they went past. He was polite and waved back at times always smiling. He looked up when Dan emerged from the house next door. The man was wearing a white billowy shirt and his typical black breeches. He was carrying two mugs, and walked over to hand one to Alistair before pulling up a chair to join his fellow warden.
“Are you still sharpening that thing?” Dan asked.
“It’s not dragonbone like yours. I have to continually sharpen the blade.”
“You mean Oathkeeper?”
“That one,” Alistair replied as he continued working his steel blade.
“This is absurd, Alistair. I keep telling you to take the sword. I have my family sword I can use.”
“And what if you lose it? You mentioned having cousins and other relatives you mean to find and turn the sword over to. No, this sword is just fine.” He turned his attention back to working the whetstone along the length of the blade.
“We have the coin to get a new one,” Dan said. “You really need another sword. No matter how much you work that blade the notches will always be there.”
“This sword is just fine,” Alistair protested. “I have had it a long time.”
“Then we can store it with my family sword, but its fighting days are over.”
“It’s still a good sword.”
Leliana came up behind Dan and whispered into his ear. She smiled at Alistair and began walking towards the chantry courtyard and the middle of the village. Dan got up to follow her.
“Look…just think about it, ok?” Dan pleaded. “I don’t want you stuck in a fight when that sword decides to break.”
“It won’t break,” Alistair replied.
“Just think about it.”
Dan turned to follow Leliana who was now out of sight. Alistair sat alone continuing to work the whetstone along the blade’s edges. It was his first sword when he became a Grey Warden. It wasn’t a fancy blade, and truth be told it was not supposed to be the main one he would use. But the battle at Ostagar had gone badly, and Duncan had not had the chance to give him the sword he was meant to carry. Instead this was the blade Duncan had given him, and he would be damned if the sword would be laid aside just because it had some notches. Another girl walked past and waved at him with a giggle. He smiled and waved back, and then his thoughts drifted to when Duncan had first given him the sword.
“That iron sword the Templars gave you for training will do no good against darkspawn,” Duncan had said.
“I have no other sword,” Alistair had replied.
“Take this sword for now,” Duncan had said when he handed the sword to Alistair. “It is a steel blade and should serve well for the time being. After we are finished at Ostagar we should have time to get a proper sword at one of our old caches here in the Ferelden countryside.”
“The Grey Wardens have caches of supplies in Ferelden?”
“Old caches, yes,” Duncan had replied. “There is one in particular that has recently come to my attention. After Ostagar we will need to investigate it. I am sure we will find a more suitable blade for you there, Alistair.”
“Thank you, Duncan.”
“You are welcome, Alistair,” Duncan had replied. “Now I must travel north. There is a possible recruit I must check upon in Highever. I will see you again in Ostagar.”
“Maker watch over you, Duncan,” Alistair had said.
“Maker watch over us all.”
Duncan had then turned and left Alistair alone holding a new sword…at least new to him. It was older and had seen some action, but it was a good blade. He was brought back to the present by more giggling from a few more girls walking by. They whispered to each other, smiled, and waved at him. He ran his hand through his hair and smiled back which caused more giggling from the girls as they walked away occasionally looking back at him. While he watched them he noticed Dan and Leliana coming back. She was holding his arm, and in the other he was carrying a package. He also had a sword slung to his back, and Alistair did not remember him carrying a sword before. Leliana was also wearing a new outfit. It was a white short dress with grayish green sleeves and leggings. The neck was cut low showing some of her cleavage, and around the midsection was chainmail. She also had a red scarf wrapped around her neck. When they got to the front of the house they were staying in, he handed her the package, and they kissed before she entered the house smiling and waved at Alistair before walking through the door. Dan walked back over and unslung the sword before sitting in the chair he was in before.
“You two went shopping I see,” Alistair said.
“Leliana had some outfits made by Owen and his daughter. She got three total and decided to wear the white one today. I like the way they look on her.”
“I see,” Alistair said with a nod. “And a new sword?”
“This was one Owen forgot he even had the last time we were here,” Dan said pulling the sword from the sheath. It looked just like Oathkeeper. “It’s dragonbone, but Owen doesn’t remember if it has a name.”
“You are a terrible liar,” Alistair stated sitting back in his chair. “That is Oathkeeper. I wasn’t paying attention before, but Leliana must have brought it with her.”
“Ok…fine…it is Oathkeeper. But I want you to have it, Alistair. You need a good sword to use. I can use my daggers until I find a better sword, but you need a good sword now with your preference of using a shield. Take it,” Dan said presenting the sword to his friend with both hands.
“You don’t understand. This sword was given to me by Duncan.”
“I’m not asking you to discard it, my friend. Put it in the chest with my family’s sword. It’ll be safe there. But please take this to use in battle. I understand the importance of a sentimental sword, believe me.”
Alistair sighed deeply. “Very well.” He took the sword Oathkeeper and was surprised at how light it felt in his hand. He smiled at Dan as he marveled at the craftsmanship that had gone into the blade and the hilt.
“And the good thing is you will never have to sharpen it. Dragonbone never dulls.” Dan grinned.
“Thank you,” Alistair said. “Perhaps you’re right. Maybe it is time to put this blade aside for now.” He handed the old steel sword to Dan.
“Trust me, it’ll be safe. Now if you will excuse me, I’ll put this in the chest in our house. I also have someone waiting for me,” he said with a wink. He then got up and left Alistair alone again.
It was indeed a fine sword. Dan had gotten it in Lothering after helping clear out some animals that had been terrorizing the locals. He wasn’t sure how the blade had gotten there or its name, but it was an excellent blade. He got up and walked to the small clearing between the two houses and shadow sparred. He would have to work on his balance because the blade was so light, but his speed increased with every swing.
He worked up a sweat sparring, and soon stopped to catch his breath. He reached down to grab his shirt to wipe his brow, and then remembered he was not wearing a shirt. He turned around to walk back to the porch to retrieve it when he stopped short. There were four young maidens watching him and whispering to each other. The shortest one, not more than perhaps five foot in height, played with her bottom lip with her finger. She walked over to him, and he backed up against the side of the house as she approached. The other three maidens slowly crept up behind her giggling and whispering to each other. The girl had shoulder length blonde hair and green eyes. Her bosom was proportionate to her size, and he guessed she weighed perhaps one hundred pounds. He was as flat against the house wall when she stopped not six inches in front of him. She kept her head down as she looked up at him still playing with her bottom lip.
“Are you one of the Grey Wardens? The one called Alistair?” she asked. Her voice was light and playful…almost angelic.
“That’s me,” he replied and then cleared his throat.
“I know the other one, Dan is his name? I know he is with that red haired girl you travel with,” she said playfully. He looked at the other girls, all still giggling and whispering amongst themselves. “Are you with the dark haired one?” she asked drawing his attention back to her. She had quit playing with her bottom lip and had now undone one of the laces of her bodice and was running her finger along her cleavage.
“Morrigan?” he asked and swallowed hard. “No, I am not with her.” He dropped the sword on the ground.
“Does that mean you have no woman in your life?” she asked as she ran her hands along his chest. “A big, strong, warrior like you needs a woman in his life…or more.” The other girls giggled louder at her last phrase. She ran her hands lower along his stomach and reached his beltline. “Do you find me attractive, Alistair?”
“You are very pretty, miss” he replied. “But I can’t…I mean I have sworn an oath to protect the lands from the darkspawn.”
“But that doesn’t mean a vow of chastity, right? I mean your friend, he has a woman.”
He didn’t realize it but she had undone the laces on his breeches. “I…um…I should go…yes…I need to go…I’m going now…” he turned and started to walk away when she grabbed the back of his breeches pulling the down a little.
“Won’t you please stay with us? We get lonely sometimes, and we need a big, strong, handsome man like yourself.”
He didn’t even reply and began walking faster. She lost her grip and he started running. He looked back and they were following him, but there were now more of them. He ran down by the docks, but was stopped by another group of girls. They started chase and he turned and ran down an alley trying desperately to lose his followers. There were perhaps ten of them now following him. He looked for help, for any men to drive some sense into these women chasing him, but he did not see any. He realized that most of the men in the village had been killed when the walking corpses were attacking the village. He made his way past two more corners to double back towards the house. He cleared the last corner to find the first girl, the pretty blonde one standing on the porch waiting for him. Not hesitating he darted for the door of the other house and ran in shutting the door behind him and locking it. He doubled over to catch his breath. The women in the village had gone sex crazy. He looked up to see Morrigan standing in front of him with her arms crossed.
“And just what do you think you are doing barging in here like that?” she asked perturbed.
“I was…being chased…crazy…” he tried to say between breaths.
“And you decided to run in here instead of your own house?”
“Couldn’t…one blocking me…had to escape…”
“Well could you at least lace up your pants? Your thing…it’s peaking out at me,” she said as she pointed.
“My what?” he asked and looked down. Embarrassed he pulled his breaches back up and laced them. “I’m sorry about that. Those women…they are crazy.”
“Um hmmmm…and I am to believe this? That women are chasing after you, Alistair? I cannot fathom why any woman would stoop to chasing you.”
“Well…they are.”
“Then they can keep doing it,” she said as she reached around him, opened the door, and shoved him back outside into the throngs of the ten maidens waiting outside. She quickly locked the door and giggled to herself as she heard him cry out to be left alone. When the sounds outside dissipated she unlocked the door and peaked outside. He was no longer there nor were the girls, but what was left of his pants was strewn here and there across the porch. She reclosed the door and locked it laughing at the former Templar’s misfortune.
The next morning the entire group met outside the chantry prepped to leave out for Denerim to find Brother Genitivi. Alistair was red faced and pulled Dan off to the side before they departed the village.
“Next time we come here…we stay at the castle,” he said sternly.
“Are you sure that is what you want?” Dan asked.
“Absolutely!”
“Ok.”
The group started to leave, and as Alistair walked past Morrigan she slapped him on the rear causing him to wince in pain.
“Have fun last night, Alistair?” she asked with a devilish grin.
“No…and not another word!” he said glaring at her. “I slept in the chantry last night because of you. And I received a long lecture from the Revered Mother about virtues and chaste values. I swear I must be…” he trailed off as he walked away leaving her doubled over laughing.

[tmp7704]

csfteeeer wrote...

So.... it's NOT a canonization(that's a word right?)?

What the **** are they doing then?

if it's NOT a canonization then it's just a waste of time.

On another topic..... WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS?

From what i gather it's a story which happens in Mr.Gaider's personal playthrough, so to speak. I think it's interesting, in the same way it's interesting to hear about what happens to Alistair and everyone else in other people's games, even though my own playthrough (and the ideas of what happened afterwards) can be completely different.

I'd imagine the bits like secret behind dragons, what Antiva looks like and the people shown there are going to be universal pieces of lore.

So overall, doesn't really feel like waste of time, imo.

[tklivory]

RagingCyclone wrote...

Ambra...great fill.

Regarding the comic...my thoughts are why the use of characters from the games. I would rather the comics expand/explore the lore and world of Thedas using new faces and characters. For me it just seems like a limited imagination to use the same characters over and over to explore an entire world that has thousands of potential protagonists the see the world...and new perspectives. I just view using the same characters over and over as a wasted opportunity.

The cynical part of me sees it as a money grab.  All three of those characters have a fairly hefty fan base.   A Zevran fan noted in the DA2 thread about this comic that Zevran isn't mentioned (even though an Antiva setting would seem to make it more appropriate for him) because Zevran was one of the less popular characters in DA:O (is he?  really?)

I'm with you, Rage.  I'd rather see new (or minor) characters used rather than the biggies as an opportunity to expand the lore without having the potential to mess up people's head-canons.  As much as I like Alistair (mmmmm, ex-Templar goodness), I feel this is an attempt to lure the fans of DA:O and DA2 together into one big money pot.

Edit for additional thought:
It's kinda like DA2 or DLC for DA:O.  I want so badly to like it, so I'm staying cautiously excited, but it wouldn't have been my preferred method of additional Alistair material.

Modifié par tklivory, 16 octobre 2011 - 03:28 .