Excellent point. We know that supposadly Bryce had enough support to be king, so I guess Alistair won't put her to the side. Might not be smart.inclemency wrote...
Queen Cousland would have been savvy enough to put a solid ally at Gwaran, and between that, and her brother in Highever would have a solid base of support, never mind having Alistair, as well.
Modifié par cmessaz, 06 septembre 2010 - 03:21 .
That is true, I have to say I forgot about that line hahaha.KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Axekix wrote...
I have to ask, what consequence you see this having for Fereldans. You think they would become second class citizens? While Cailan is ruling there is little chance of injustices against Fereldans being tolerated, and if he's working towards smoothing relations diplomatically while on the throne, why assume things would be worse when his heirs take over?
You rely on Cailan doing any of that? He didn't even know what was happening in his own capital city (alienage). How would he know what happens when he lives in Orlais?
Different yes, but that doesn't mean they can't happen concurrently, which is more what I was suggesting.And once again, it's not "smoothing relations diplomatically", it's merger. Vastly differnt things.
Well I would hope Cailan would have a hand in their upbringing, and teach them respect for all people. But perhaps I am giving Cailan more credit than he deserves here.Because his heirs would be raised as Orlesians and would think like Orlesians. Why would they identify with the barely civilized Fereldans?
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Modifié par LadyDamodred, 06 septembre 2010 - 03:29 .
And Anora might have been more like Rowan- fighting for something other than her own ambition.LadyDamodred wrote...
Indeed. There are a lot of similarities between Maric's childhood and Alistair's. Thry are very, very similar in how they think about the kingship. I think had Cailan not been raised as a prince, he probably would have turned out very close to what Maric and hardened Alistair are.
LadyDamodred wrote...
Axe: It's just that if they're raised in Orlaid, Cailan would have far less influence over them than Celene. He also doesn't seem to be very strong. *shrugs*
Is it blasphemy to suggest I think hardened Alistair would do a better job of raising kids with Celene than Cailan would?
cmessaz wrote...
Excellent point. We know that supposadly Bryce had enough support to be king, so I guess Alistair won't put her to the side. Might not be smart.inclemency wrote...
Queen Cousland would have been savvy enough to put a solid ally at Gwaran, and between that, and her brother in Highever would have a solid base of support, never mind having Alistair, as well.
Spelling iz herd.
Axekix wrote...Different yes, but that doesn't mean they can't happen concurrently, which is more what I was suggesting.
Well I would hope Cailan would have a hand in their upbringing, and teach them respect for all people. But perhaps I am giving Cailan more credit than he deserves here.Axekix wrote...
Remember, all the "royalists" conveniently died. Anyway, I guess I was wrong. I doubt Alistair would put her to the side.Yankee23 wrote...
cmessaz wrote...
Excellent point. We know that supposadly Bryce had enough support to be king, so I guess Alistair won't put her to the side. Might not be smart.inclemency wrote...
Queen Cousland would have been savvy enough to put a solid ally at Gwaran, and between that, and her brother in Highever would have a solid base of support, never mind having Alistair, as well.
Spelling iz herd.
Also, I don't think most of the nobles are as hung up on the Therin bloodline as Eamon is, they accept Anora readily enough. I think Eamon's support at the landsmeet is more because he is respected than that he is trying to keep a Therin on the throne. So, I don't think Alistair would run into too much resistance later by naming a heir from another noble family. Whose family might cause some vigorus discussion but not the idea in general.
You have the option of asking Alistair if Loghain knows that he's Maric's son in the discussion where he admits his parentage. I took this as a hint that Loghain might very well be trying to rid himself of the last Theirin, the warden being rather shrewd and all.tuppence95 wrote...
Here's something I was never sure of. Was Loghain trying to kill Alistair and the warden throughout the game because they were witness to his deserting the battle? Or was he trying to get rid of Maric's last heir, so he could control Anora's throne? I'm guessing the latter, since he had his daughter locked away.
I do think that Loghain is a fascinating character, but I can't stand the things he did. If he had succeeded in killing Alistair & warden, I would have loved to have seen his face when he discovered what he had done.
There's also the fact that Alistair's queen is a Cousland, from the most powerful family in Ferelden. The odds are good that an heir that was named would be a child of Fergus's, which would likely be quite acceptable to the nobility, if no Theirin was available.cmessaz wrote...
Remember, all the "royalists" conveniently died. Anyway, I guess I was wrong. I doubt Alistair would put her to the side.Yankee23 wrote...
cmessaz wrote...
Excellent point. We know that supposadly Bryce had enough support to be king, so I guess Alistair won't put her to the side. Might not be smart.inclemency wrote...
Queen Cousland would have been savvy enough to put a solid ally at Gwaran, and between that, and her brother in Highever would have a solid base of support, never mind having Alistair, as well.
Spelling iz herd.
Also, I don't think most of the nobles are as hung up on the Therin bloodline as Eamon is, they accept Anora readily enough. I think Eamon's support at the landsmeet is more because he is respected than that he is trying to keep a Therin on the throne. So, I don't think Alistair would run into too much resistance later by naming a heir from another noble family. Whose family might cause some vigorus discussion but not the idea in general.
errant_knight wrote...
You have the option of asking Alistair if Loghain knows that he's Maric's son in the discussion where he admits his parentage. I took this as a hint that Loghain might very well be trying to rid himself of the last Theirin, the warden being rather shrewd and all.tuppence95 wrote...
Here's something I was never sure of. Was Loghain trying to kill Alistair and the warden throughout the game because they were witness to his deserting the battle? Or was he trying to get rid of Maric's last heir, so he could control Anora's throne? I'm guessing the latter, since he had his daughter locked away.
I do think that Loghain is a fascinating character, but I can't stand the things he did. If he had succeeded in killing Alistair & warden, I would have loved to have seen his face when he discovered what he had done.
tuppence95 wrote...
Here's something I was never sure of. Was Loghain trying to kill Alistair and the warden throughout the game because they were witness to his deserting the battle? Or was he trying to get rid of Maric's last heir, so he could control Anora's throne? I'm guessing the latter, since he had his daughter locked away.
I do think that Loghain is a fascinating character, but I can't stand the things he did. If he had succeeded in killing Alistair & warden, I would have loved to have seen his face when he discovered what he had done.
Modifié par LadyDamodred, 06 septembre 2010 - 03:42 .
Couslands are my answer to all without an heir between Alistair and my Queen Cous. And now I'm even happier to make her queen. This is good news!!!errant_knight wrote...
There's also the fact that Alistair's queen is a Cousland, from the most powerful family in Ferelden. The odds are good that an heir that was named would be a child of Fergus's, which would likely be quite acceptable to the nobility, if no Theirin was available.cmessaz wrote...
Remember, all the "royalists" conveniently died. Anyway, I guess I was wrong. I doubt Alistair would put her to the side.Yankee23 wrote...
cmessaz wrote...
Excellent point. We know that supposadly Bryce had enough support to be king, so I guess Alistair won't put her to the side. Might not be smart.inclemency wrote...
Queen Cousland would have been savvy enough to put a solid ally at Gwaran, and between that, and her brother in Highever would have a solid base of support, never mind having Alistair, as well.
Spelling iz herd.
Also, I don't think most of the nobles are as hung up on the Therin bloodline as Eamon is, they accept Anora readily enough. I think Eamon's support at the landsmeet is more because he is respected than that he is trying to keep a Therin on the throne. So, I don't think Alistair would run into too much resistance later by naming a heir from another noble family. Whose family might cause some vigorus discussion but not the idea in general.
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Alistair doesn't think it has much meaning, because he figures he's a commoner, and not in line for the throne, but Alistair's opinions on that are a product of his childhood, more than political awareness.tuppence95 wrote...
errant_knight wrote...
You have the option of asking Alistair if Loghain knows that he's Maric's son in the discussion where he admits his parentage. I took this as a hint that Loghain might very well be trying to rid himself of the last Theirin, the warden being rather shrewd and all.tuppence95 wrote...
Here's something I was never sure of. Was Loghain trying to kill Alistair and the warden throughout the game because they were witness to his deserting the battle? Or was he trying to get rid of Maric's last heir, so he could control Anora's throne? I'm guessing the latter, since he had his daughter locked away.
I do think that Loghain is a fascinating character, but I can't stand the things he did. If he had succeeded in killing Alistair & warden, I would have loved to have seen his face when he discovered what he had done.
Thanks, I'll have to listen to that dialog again. I remember Alistair saying Loghain knew, but that's all I remember.
cmessaz wrote...
Couslands are my answer to all without an heir between Alistair and my Queen Cous. And now I'm even happier to make her queen. This is good news!!!errant_knight wrote...
There's also the fact that Alistair's queen is a Cousland, from the most powerful family in Ferelden. The odds are good that an heir that was named would be a child of Fergus's, which would likely be quite acceptable to the nobility, if no Theirin was available.cmessaz wrote...
Remember, all the "royalists" conveniently died. Anyway, I guess I was wrong. I doubt Alistair would put her to the side.Yankee23 wrote...
cmessaz wrote...
Excellent point. We know that supposadly Bryce had enough support to be king, so I guess Alistair won't put her to the side. Might not be smart.inclemency wrote...
Queen Cousland would have been savvy enough to put a solid ally at Gwaran, and between that, and her brother in Highever would have a solid base of support, never mind having Alistair, as well.
Spelling iz herd.
Also, I don't think most of the nobles are as hung up on the Therin bloodline as Eamon is, they accept Anora readily enough. I think Eamon's support at the landsmeet is more because he is respected than that he is trying to keep a Therin on the throne. So, I don't think Alistair would run into too much resistance later by naming a heir from another noble family. Whose family might cause some vigorus discussion but not the idea in general.
Glad to be of service.
tuppence95 wrote...
javapadawan wrote...
tuppence95 wrote...
*snip*
My apologies for reposting an old shot, but can anyone tell me what armor (mod?) this is? It's kind of smexy.
I was just trying to remember where I got it. It wasn't a new armor. It was a mod that alters in game mage robes. But I haven't been able to remember the name of the mod. Sorry. I hope someone else knows what it is.
Modifié par rak72, 06 septembre 2010 - 03:40 .
rak72 wrote...
I think this was the plot of Eamon's Orlesion shrew wife all along. Get in there, have Alistair sent to the Chantry to stop any heirs from him. Then convince Eamon to arange this marriage with the Orlesion Empress. Eamon is a sell out. My Couslan girl has his number, she's keeping him FAR from King Al. She's going to spend a lot of time prepairing her nieces/nephews for future rule
LadyDamodred wrote...
tuppence95 wrote...
Here's something I was never sure of. Was Loghain trying to kill Alistair and the warden throughout the game because they were witness to his deserting the battle? Or was he trying to get rid of Maric's last heir, so he could control Anora's throne? I'm guessing the latter, since he had his daughter locked away.
I do think that Loghain is a fascinating character, but I can't stand the things he did. If he had succeeded in killing Alistair & warden, I would have loved to have seen his face when he discovered what he had done.
Six of one, a half dozen of the other. I think, had he succeeded in killing the Wardens, it would have been a doubler bonus for him. You know, right up until the archdemon leveled Ferelden.
I often wonder, had Alistair been raised more politically savy, woudl Loghain have tried to win him over or would he havw tried all that much harder to kill him?
rak72 wrote...
I think this was the plot of Eamon's Orlesion shrew wife all along. Get in there, have Alistair sent to the Chantry to stop any heirs from him. Then convince Eamon to arange this marriage with the Orlesion Empress. Eamon is a sell out. My Cousland girl has his number, she's keeping him FAR from King Al. She's going to spend a lot of time prepairing her nieces/nephews for future rule
javapadawan wrote...
tuppence95 wrote...
javapadawan wrote...
tuppence95 wrote...
*snip*
My apologies for reposting an old shot, but can anyone tell me what armor (mod?) this is? It's kind of smexy.
I was just trying to remember where I got it. It wasn't a new armor. It was a mod that alters in game mage robes. But I haven't been able to remember the name of the mod. Sorry. I hope someone else knows what it is.
Thanks for the response! I've been poking around DA Nexus for a while now with no luck (the closest thing I found was one called Sexy Male Robes, but they look quite a bit shorter than the one in your screenshot). Ah well.
On the bright side, I did find a mod that hides armor altogether, which should make for a rather interesting playthrough.
Loghain put a bounty on remaining Warden's heads, but there's no evidence that he knew Alistair survived. Even after Lothering and finishing the first ally quest, Howe is the one to tell him about the remaining Wardens and suggesting Zevran as an assassin. The only way I can think he'd know about Alistair surviving is if you let Loghain's men go in Lothering. They would certainly have a description of Alistair.tuppence95 wrote...
Here's something I was never sure of. Was Loghain trying to kill Alistair and the warden throughout the game because they were witness to his deserting the battle? Or was he trying to get rid of Maric's last heir, so he could control Anora's throne? I'm guessing the latter, since he had his daughter locked away.
I do think that Loghain is a fascinating character, but I can't stand the things he did. If he had succeeded in killing Alistair & warden, I would have loved to have seen his face when he discovered what he had done.
Zev - definatly! BFF!inclemency wrote...
rak72 wrote...
I think this was the plot of Eamon's Orlesion shrew wife all along. Get in there, have Alistair sent to the Chantry to stop any heirs from him. Then convince Eamon to arange this marriage with the Orlesion Empress. Eamon is a sell out. My Cousland girl has his number, she's keeping him FAR from King Al. She's going to spend a lot of time prepairing her nieces/nephews for future rule
Lol, mine, too, as well as keeping Zev close by to help smooth out potentially sticky situations
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