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[Kryyptehk]

Sarah1281 wrote...

I could believe that Maric tried to keep Cailan away so that he would slip the existence of Alistair to Rowan. Though why would they be introduced if that were the case?

You're assuming that Rowan was alive once Alistair was born. Even if she was, however, she died when Cailan was young so that's a poor excuse.

That's true, I forgot that Rowan died when Cailan was young. Then I think I agree with Lady D about the "guilt" thing.

[tuppence95]

I still don't hate Cailan, even after what Gaider said today.  I don't think he ever should have been made king though.  He's like an eager, excited child.  One of my characters tried so hard to be rude to him, but  you can't say anything that gets under his skin.  

I wonder how different this story would have been if Bryce had been crowned King?

[Merilsell]

Sandtigress wrote...

Because Loghain would have never come up with Alistair being the son of an elven Orlesian Grey Warden mage. Ever.

You can be sure that this sort of information would have caused Loghain an instant brain fry  xD

P.S.  Someone asked DG today if we would ever meet Maric and Fiona's son.  DG's answer was *eyebrow* "Maybe you already have?"  If he could have used , I'm sure he would have.

Heh. That is in DG words already some kind of confirmation. Weeeheee.

[errant_knight]

rak72 wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

rak72 wrote...

I think this was the plot of Eamon's Orlesion shrew wife all along. Get in there, have Alistair sent to the Chantry to stop any heirs from him. Then convince Eamon to arange this marriage with the Orlesion Empress. Eamon is a sell out. My Couslan girl has his number, she's keeping him FAR from King Al. She's going to spend a lot of time prepairing her nieces/nephews for future rule

Maric was alive when Alistair went to the Chantry. I find it difficult to believe that it was done without his approval.

Eamon could have convinced him that it would be good for thhe boy.  But at any rate, why would Maric EVER allow this.  He could have sent him of to be a squire some place.

Heh, I explain it all in the story I'm writing.

[LadyDamodred]

Kryyptehk wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

I could believe that Maric tried to keep Cailan away so that he would slip the existence of Alistair to Rowan. Though why would they be introduced if that were the case?

You're assuming that Rowan was alive once Alistair was born. Even if she was, however, she died when Cailan was young so that's a poor excuse.

That's true, I forgot that Rowan died when Cailan was young. Then I think I agree with Lady D about the "guilt" thing.

Maric seems like too good of a guy not to let that bother him, no matter how hopeful he was at the end of The Calling.  And I think it would bother him more as the years passed.  *shrugs*  I suppose we might never know.

[errant_knight]

rak72 wrote...

Re lyrium addiction - you see strung out templars around Fereldan, so people must know. I imagine that the king would be privy to this, especialy if he is researching his son becoming a templar.

I don't think so. I'm pretty sure that Alistair is spilling some serious beans when he tells you. He makes reference to telling Chantry secrets. It's pretty easy to explain crazy templars as the results of blood magic. And you don't see strung out templars all over ferldan--you see one in a cell.

Modifié par errant_knight, 06 septembre 2010 - 04:57 .

[errant_knight]

Merilsell wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...

Because Loghain would have never come up with Alistair being the son of an elven Orlesian Grey Warden mage. Ever.

You can be sure that this sort of information would have caused Loghain an instant brain fry  xD

P.S.  Someone asked DG today if we would ever meet Maric and Fiona's son.  DG's answer was *eyebrow* "Maybe you already have?"  If he could have used , I'm sure he would have.

Heh. That is in DG words already some kind of confirmation. Weeeheee.

Not so much. It could be Cullen--or Jowan.

[cmessaz]

Omg Jowan >.<

[inclemency]

1am here and my brain has turned to mush...time for sleep. Since it's Monday here, I'll leave you with a derp. 'Night, all

[Sarah1281]

Merilsell wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...

Because Loghain would have never come up with Alistair being the son of an elven Orlesian Grey Warden mage. Ever.

You can be sure that this sort of information would have caused Loghain an instant brain fry  xD

Don't forget the elf part.

Not so much. It could be Cullen--or Jowan.

I would officially give up on the Theirin bloodline forever.

[Sarah1281]

MariSkep wrote...

tuppence95 wrote...

I wonder how different this story would have been if Bryce had been crowned King?

Anora would have been busy trying to get on the 'good side' of one of the Cousland kids. Hopefully she would have been there when Howe attacked.

I can dream, can't I?

Honestly though I can't imagine it would have changed much. The Couslands seem to have a very high opinion of the Grey Wardens and I don't imagine a nobleman of Bryce's status would have taken so kindly to Loghain's constant second guessing. Maybe Bryce would have been more politically savy to convince Loghain to allow the Orlaisan Wardens into the country and he definitely would have been willing to wait for Eamon. Maybe but I'm more inclined to think he'd have met a fate similar to Cailan's.

On the other hand...Bryce was experienced and not an idiot. And he wouldn't have been on the front lines. Or plotted to marry Celene.

Edit: Damn, why did he turn the throne down today? Loyalty is a virtue but not mindless loyalty.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 06 septembre 2010 - 05:03 .

[LadyDamodred]

MariSkep wrote...

tuppence95 wrote...

I wonder how different this story would have been if Bryce had been crowned King?

Anora would have been busy trying to get on the 'good side' of one of the Cousland kids. Hopefully she would have been there when Howe attacked.

I can dream, can't I?

Honestly though I can't imagine it would have changed much. The Couslands seem to have a very high opinion of the Grey Wardens and I don't imagine a nobleman of Bryce's status would have taken so kindly to Loghain's constant second guessing. Maybe Bryce would have been more politically savy to convince Loghain to allow the Orlaisan Wardens into the country and he definitely would have been willing to wait for Eamon. Maybe but I'm more inclined to think he'd have met a fate similar to Cailan's.

Bryce wouldn't be fighting on the front lines.  And even if he did, he had at least 3 heirs.  So things probably would have played out a bit differently.

[Kryyptehk]

LadyDamodred wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

tuppence95 wrote...

I wonder how different this story would have been if Bryce had been crowned King?

Anora would have been busy trying to get on the 'good side' of one of the Cousland kids. Hopefully she would have been there when Howe attacked.

I can dream, can't I?

Honestly though I can't imagine it would have changed much. The Couslands seem to have a very high opinion of the Grey Wardens and I don't imagine a nobleman of Bryce's status would have taken so kindly to Loghain's constant second guessing. Maybe Bryce would have been more politically savy to convince Loghain to allow the Orlaisan Wardens into the country and he definitely would have been willing to wait for Eamon. Maybe but I'm more inclined to think he'd have met a fate similar to Cailan's.

Bryce wouldn't be fighting on the front lines.  And even if he did, he had at least 3 heirs.  So things probably would have played out a bit differently.

3 heirs?

[cmessaz]

I really don't see Bryce as a glory seeker. He would have handled the situation better, like you know, waiting on Eamon's troops....

[tuppence95]

 Bryce would never have been the fanciful child that Cailan was.  Loghain might not have been quite so fed up with him ... and no, I doubt he would have been dealing with the Orlesians, based on his comments during the origin story.

It's late, and I got carried away with this interesting discussion.  So I didn't get any further with my HNM who is married to the lovely Anora.  

[LadyDamodred]

Kryyptehk wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

tuppence95 wrote...

I wonder how different this story would have been if Bryce had been crowned King?

Anora would have been busy trying to get on the 'good side' of one of the Cousland kids. Hopefully she would have been there when Howe attacked.

I can dream, can't I?

Honestly though I can't imagine it would have changed much. The Couslands seem to have a very high opinion of the Grey Wardens and I don't imagine a nobleman of Bryce's status would have taken so kindly to Loghain's constant second guessing. Maybe Bryce would have been more politically savy to convince Loghain to allow the Orlaisan Wardens into the country and he definitely would have been willing to wait for Eamon. Maybe but I'm more inclined to think he'd have met a fate similar to Cailan's.

Bryce wouldn't be fighting on the front lines.  And even if he did, he had at least 3 heirs.  So things probably would have played out a bit differently.

3 heirs?

Fergus, the PC/younger sibling and Oren.

[sylvanaerie]

Kryyptehk wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

tuppence95 wrote...

I wonder how different this story would have been if Bryce had been crowned King?

Anora would have been busy trying to get on the 'good side' of one of the Cousland kids. Hopefully she would have been there when Howe attacked.

I can dream, can't I?

Honestly though I can't imagine it would have changed much. The Couslands seem to have a very high opinion of the Grey Wardens and I don't imagine a nobleman of Bryce's status would have taken so kindly to Loghain's constant second guessing. Maybe Bryce would have been more politically savy to convince Loghain to allow the Orlaisan Wardens into the country and he definitely would have been willing to wait for Eamon. Maybe but I'm more inclined to think he'd have met a fate similar to Cailan's.

Bryce wouldn't be fighting on the front lines.  And even if he did, he had at least 3 heirs.  So things probably would have played out a bit differently.

3 heirs?

Fergus, PC and Oren

[Kryyptehk]

@Lady D and Sylva. Ah yes, I had forgotten Oren. Carry on

[KnightofPhoenix]

Hey, Eleanor could also be an heir couldn't she? I love her! lol

[Sarah1281]

MariSkep wrote...

Not knowing who everyone is talking about is something I'll have to live with for never playing the Human Noble Origin. Oh well.

You could look them up on the wiki. Basically, Bryce is the father, Eleanor is the mother, Fergus is the brother, Oriana is the sister-in-law, and Oren is the nephew.