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[BevH]

AmbraAlhambra wrote...

Oooooh they posted sketches of Alistair for the comic!





:wub::wub:

*squeeeee!* he's looking pretty hot there!


I'm so excited about this comic but at the same time I'm terrfied they're going to screw him up!





I'M IN A GLASS CAGE OF EMOTION!!!

Okay I'm done.

 That would be my main fear as well. And based on the advice of my comic loving daughter, I'll be waiting until July when the hardcover comes out.

[Penarddun]

I'm doing a new playthrough with a mage and I want to go to Orzammar first. Well actually I'm going to do Soldier's Peak and Shale first, but Orzammar will be the first main quest line. I have it figured out in my head role playing wise for my character why she is going to Orzammar first. But I was wondering if this affects the party members' development negatively....

Is it required to go to Redcliffe to get Alistair to start progressing? I thought I read somewhere that if you don't go to Redcliffe that Alistair remains Neutral or something. And does it mess up the Leliana Nug quest if I go to Orzammar before she is more fond of me (this doesn't realy matter much, since that Nug's squeaking at camp drove me nuts). Also I remember there was a specific herbalist quest in Orzammar. Will that be unobtainable if I go there first?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm just trying to get this to work with my Mage's decisions, and already noticed some odd things (or maybe just thought I did). Especially with Alistair and Leliana. They don't seem to be developing at the same rate as they do when I went to the Circle Tower/Redcliffe first.

Modifié par Penarddun, 18 février 2012 - 08:40 .

[Eternal Phoenix]

Ah. Thank God. This thread doesn't contain as much depth as the Loghain thread. I went there to see the discussion and it was a discussion about DNA and ancestry. Truly, Loghain is the deepest character in video game history if he inspires discussions about DNA, war, economics and ancestry.

So I'll just set up camp here. Alistair is a pretty cool guy.

Carry on.

[BevH]

Penarddun wrote...

I'm doing a new playthrough with a mage and I want to go to Orzammar first. Well actually I'm going to do Soldier's Peak and Shale first, but Orzammar will be the first main quest line. I have it figured out in my head role playing wise for my character why she is going to Orzammar first. But I was wondering if this affects the party members' development negatively....

Is it required to go to Redcliffe to get Alistair to start progressing? I thought I read somewhere that if you don't go to Redcliffe that Alistair remains Neutral or something. And does it mess up the Leliana Nug quest if I go to Orzammar before she is more fond of me (this doesn't realy matter much, since that Nug's squeaking at camp drove me nuts). Also I remember there was a specific herbalist quest in Orzammar. Will that be unobtainable if I go there first?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm just trying to get this to work with my Mage's decisions, and already noticed some odd things (or maybe just thought I did). Especially with Alistair and Leliana. They don't seem to be developing at the same rate as they do when I went to the Circle Tower/Redcliffe first.

I can't answer all your questions, but I'll answer what I can and hope that maybe someone else can answer the rest.

On Alistair, it's not necessary to go to Redcliffe first. I've recently started going to Kinloch Hold first so I can get Wynne right away. Or do you mean skip Redcliffe altogether? On that I have no experience since I've always done Redcliffe. The herb quest should still be there. As for anything regarding Leliana, I don't know, since I've never completed the nug quest, and I don't usually have her in my party when I go to Orzammar.

[Penarddun]

BevH wrote...

On Alistair, it's not necessary to go to Redcliffe first. I've recently started going to Kinloch Hold first so I can get Wynne right away. Or do you mean skip Redcliffe altogether? On that I have no experience since I've always done Redcliffe.

Thank you! I do plan on going to Redcliffe eventually, just not first.  I'll probably get to Redcliffe before the Dalish and most of Denerim, but I planned on doing almost everything else before. Although I know Alistair has critical dialogue at Redcliffe so I thought it might stunt his storyline or something.

[theskymoves]

Penarddun wrote...

BevH wrote...

On Alistair, it's not necessary to go to Redcliffe first. I've recently started going to Kinloch Hold first so I can get Wynne right away. Or do you mean skip Redcliffe altogether? On that I have no experience since I've always done Redcliffe.

Thank you! I do plan on going to Redcliffe eventually, just not first.  I'll probably get to Redcliffe before the Dalish and most of Denerim, but I planned on doing almost everything else before. Although I know Alistair has critical dialogue at Redcliffe so I thought it might stunt his storyline or something.

You won't get the reveal on Alistair's parentage, or his personal quest until you go to Redcliffe. You will still be able to advance the romance with him to a certain point (if that is a concern) but IIRC, he won't advance from Adore to Love until he meets Goldanna, no matter how high his approval is. If you aren't a stickler for roleplay, you can go to Redcliffe, talk to Alistair and get both his Daddy and Goldanna stories, and then leave without talking to Tomas and triggering the Redcliffe events.  Getting the Goldanna quest does have a approval threshold, but I can't recall what it is off-hand.

As I recall, getting Leiiana to offer the nug quest is some strange combination of critera involving approval and exhausting her available conversation options. Most of the time I can't get it to trigger, even late in the game with approval over 80 and nothing left to talk to her about.

Opening the herbalist quest should just be a matter of speaking to the quest giver, but you will need a party member with master (4th tier) herbalism to complete the quest.

pax~
tsm

[cmessaz]

Haven't been in here for a long time! Just wanted to see if you guys had seen this: Alistair's Funeral and let you know that I uploaded a version of IRS that is compatible. (Hopefully, haven't had a chance to test it).

Have fun crying, I know I did

[BevH]

cmessaz wrote...

Haven't been in here for a long time! Just wanted to see if you guys had seen this: Alistair's Funeral and let you know that I uploaded a version of IRS that is compatible. (Hopefully, haven't had a chance to test it).

Have fun crying, I know I did

Yes I saw it today as well. And agreed...
Don't know if I'll get it as I hate that ending.

[cmessaz]

BevH wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Haven't been in here for a long time! Just wanted to see if you guys had seen this: Alistair's Funeral and let you know that I uploaded a version of IRS that is compatible. (Hopefully, haven't had a chance to test it).

Have fun crying, I know I did

Yes I saw it today as well. And agreed...
Don't know if I'll get it as I hate that ending.

Yeah, I think most people are doing it for "science". I only killed him off by accident my first playthrough lol. Afterwards it was always my warden who died or Loghain.

If anyone does it please let me know how it works, since I can't test it right now.

Modifié par cmessaz, 20 février 2012 - 03:57 .

[Merilsell]

Wow. That is... *curls in a ball and whimpers*

But in the same time I love this mod to pieces, because finally finally there is a tribute to Alistair's sacrifice, others than "Oh yeah, that guy? Dead? Well, pity but you are alive, Warden, so who cares" in the vanilla version. I always hated that ending so much because of this. And because Alistair is dead and all that, of course. Will get it as soon there is an elf version, since I have an army of elves but only one HNF and she is romancing Zevran. Ah well

[BevH]

cmessaz wrote...

BevH wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Haven't been in here for a long time! Just wanted to see if you guys had seen this: Alistair's Funeral and let you know that I uploaded a version of IRS that is compatible. (Hopefully, haven't had a chance to test it).

Have fun crying, I know I did

Yes I saw it today as well. And agreed...
Don't know if I'll get it as I hate that ending.

Yeah, I think most people are doing it for "science". I only killed him off by accident my first playthrough lol. Afterwards it was always my warden who died or Loghain.

If anyone does it please let me know how it works, since I can't test it right now.

Oh fine... for science... And yes, mine was by accident as well. I didn't have IRS at the time and no matter how many times I tried, or what I had my character say, Alistair made the final blow.

I don't know where your mod is. When I click on the link you provide it takes me to the page that says I have to be a registered member. I look at the top of the page, and yes, I'm logged in. *scratches head*

Edited: Nevermind... needed to remove the "adult content blocker"

Modifié par BevH, 20 février 2012 - 08:57 .

[BevH]

OK... I did a test run with my mage warden (poor Ariana... she sacrifices so much for science! lol) and... there seems to be a problem. I got to the scene where Alistair kills the archdemon, and then where the cutscene should a) take me to the scene you deleted from IRS where the warden goes to Alistair; or should go to the Landsmeet for the conclusion, it loops back to the roof and everyone seems stuck except for the character you control. Sorry.

Edited: Erm... don't kill me. I didn't install it properly. Another test upcoming. (Poor Ariana )

Modifié par BevH, 20 février 2012 - 10:11 .

[BevH]

Hmm... I don't know if maybe I didn't install the funeral correctly... it didn't fire for me. *sigh*

[BevH]

*sigh* now I remember why I hated being a beta tester so much. Now I can't get IRS to function properly. Well, one part... the part where the warden can KO Alistair to take the final blow... unless I'm just not picking the right responses. *sighs again*

[Yankee23]

@BevH...same thing is happening to me. Cme's modified version of IRS works fine without the Funeral mod and the funeral doesn't trigger without IRS altogether. Seems like it's something with the funeral mod.

[cmessaz]

I'm working with the modder to determine the problem. I believe we have ruled out IRS.

[Maria13]

Weeell girls and boys... Comic was released today and it does not disappoint.

In fact it's beautifully illustrated, well written and Alistair is superbly portrayed as an able king a good fighter and an interesting (if tormented) hero. In fact, it is narrated from his POV...

I am impressed, I am rapt... I hope to have the spare time to write a worthy review in the next few days.

Extract:

Alistair: Fine, fine. Let's get this over with...

Isabela: [to Varric] You think that was his commanding voice?

Varric: I'm sure it works if you're from Ferelden...

Alistair: ... Before the crows find us raiding their archive, please?

digital.darkhorse.com/read/1795/

Modifié par Maria13, 22 février 2012 - 10:05 .

[tklivory]

Maria13 wrote...

Weeell girls and boys... Comic was released today and it does not disappoint.

In fact it's beautifully illustrated, well written and Alistair is superbly portrayed as an able king a good fighter and an interesting (if tormented) hero. In fact, it is narrated from his POV...

I am impressed, I am rapt... I hope to have the spare time to write a worthy review in the next few days.

digital.darkhorse.com/read/1795/

Thanks for the mini-review, Maria!  I know we've all been curious about the comic in these here parts. 

[Maria13]

Just posted a brief review of the graphic novel. No plot spoilers. social.bioware.com/239230/blog/211482/

[Lady Mimzy]

The Silent Grove is far better than I had expected. In truth I was a bit scared about how Alistair was going to come across. I knew that putting Alistair, Isabela and Varic together could either be awesome or a recipe for disaster. I'm glad they stayed true to what the writers had already established in games as their characters. I can't wait for the rest of the digital work to come out and yeah, I'll probably get the hardcover version as well (just in case my laptop crashes)

Side note: Hi everyone. Nice to see this thread still going. ^^

Modifié par Lady Mimzy, 25 février 2012 - 03:57 .

[tklivory]

 Hmmm, looks like I gotta get me this comic, then.  Too many people I like have given zeir approval!