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Penarddun wrote...
I think I'm going to try reinstalling first and make sure I got with the defaults. Is this anything like tortoisehg? I was trying to get that working with bitbucket a month ago and just couldn't get it to work either. I think it has something to do with win 7 being finicky.


Win7? Finicky??? Are you sure you have the right OS? :P  And I think it installs a mini MS SQL Express (2005 or 2008), so not a *nix based SQL at all.

Edit: I'm trying to remember where I saw this... I'm almost certain it was in a screenshot on this thread. It was an alternate camp (or just a clearing) with a mini lake or pond or something. And there were screenshots of the Warden and Alistair. Was this part of a mod? Or just someone using the toolset to get screenshots? I'll try to find the page it's on.


Pretty sure that's in either IRS or tmp's Mild Romance... whichever one has the option for wandering off to be with Alistair in camp.  (unless you mean *in* the pond, I think that's only in Zev's equivalent of IRS?  could be wrong, though)...


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Son of a tied down... ToP??  Again???

Hee hee... oh well.  Not my picture, but I wuv it nonetheless:

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Penarddun wrote...

What resolution/settings do you find are best? (to get the best screenshots of Alistair of course... to stay on topic)

I was playing in 1920 x 1080, but everything is so small, so I switched to 1280 x 720 but then the lettering is blurry and the character face is fuzzy. I currently have a low-end IPS (16:9) and the colors are supposed to be accurate (they seem so with photographs and such), but DA doesn't look as good as when I played on my xbox with my TV, which makes no sense. So I know I must be doing something wrong setting-wise on the PC.

Do you tweak your monitor settings at all?

Edit: My graphic details are on High, should I add anti-aliasing?


I use the native resolution for my screen (1920X1080), with the in-game graphics settings on either Medium or High. I keep Anit-Aliasing turned on, and I use the basic install of the JB3 hi-res textures. (I get ~30-35 fps on my ancient computer.) I usually don't do any editing of my 'caps, beyond occasionally tweakling the brightness  and white point in Photoshop

I gave the DAO Graphics Enhancer mentioned up-thread a try a while back, and while it does some really nice things with the lighting in the game, I abandoned it almost immediately for two reasons: it interfered with the readablity of all the in-game text, and screencapping (and presumbably, video capping) with Fraps no longer worked, which rendered the Graphic Enhancer useless, as far as I was concerned.

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(unless you mean *in* the pond, I think that's only in Zev's equivalent of IRS?  could be wrong, though)...

They were IN the pond! I completely forgot about that. :lol: I think the screenshot I'm remembering had a Calian morph for Alistair.

And.... Got the toolset to work! Yippee! :wizard: Now to make a head morph. :o I am so excited! Is it okay to use the Single Player Module for a basic head morph, or should I create my own Module first so as not to accidentally explode my game?


Edit: @tsm - Thank you! I'm going to use the JB3 hi-res textures. So far that is the one I understand the most from reading the descriptions on the Nexus. Seems to be the one that will work best for me too. And thanks for mentioning Fraps, I knew I forgot to install something. Is the paid version that much better than the free one they offer?

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Penarddun wrote...

They were IN the pond! I completely forgot about that. :lol: I think the screenshot I'm remembering had a Calian morph for Alistair.


Well... there is an option for More Options at the Pearl that shows a *cough* interlude with Cailan and Duncan pre-Ostagar battle... in a pond... and it's quite, ah, racy.:o  Duncan looked happy, as I recall... :whistle:

And.... Got the toolset to work! Yippee! :wizard: Now to make a head morph. :o I am so excited! Is it okay to use the Single Player Module for a basic head morph, or should I create my own Module first so as not to accidentally explode my game?


Sweet!  As I recall, I made a test module just to make sure, but it's been a while since I re-installed my toolset.

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Duncan was nowhere to be seen, sadly.  Just Calianstair and the Warden. :wub: I'm going through the old pages now. I will find it. :ph34r:

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Ok, can't resist sharing an oldie but goodie from Mel_Redux:

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Found it! On page 867! :wizard:  This is the one I was thinking of. What is DT Camp? :huh:

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Managed to get some quick screens at DT Camp, trying to figure out a way to get more of the water in the shot
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I also found a rather out of character picture of Lenya in my search. What armour is this Meri? :whistle:

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And the toolset is a black void of distraction. I just spent 3 hours staring at a head morph.... I can't seem to get rid of the little bag/ripple under the eyes. Is it just an elf thing? I put a rectangle around the right eye, but they both have it.

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@ Pernaddun: Ah, that's from the Dark Times mod, a really extensive add-on adventure with *hilarious* items in it, such as:
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Also, there is a skin mesh called 'elfnoeyebags', I'll try to figure out which mod has it.

Mk, the skin mesh with no eye bags for elves is part of the Dracomies True Textures, which is installed with Dragon Age Redesigned, another highly recommended mod.  You need to change the base skin texture on tab 1 of the character, but toggle the settings and the eye bags will go away.

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That picture is AMAZING. I'll most definitely have to get that mod asap.

And right now I have the uh_hed_fema_0d as the base skin texture and uh_hed_elfa_0d as the blend skin. Is there any way to get just the texture? I'm not sure I want to use the whole redesigned mod yet. For the most part I really like the way all the NPCs look... yes I'm odd that way. :P

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Penarddun wrote...

That picture is AMAZING. I'll most definitely have to get that mod asap.

And right now I have the uh_hed_fema_0d as the base skin texture and uh_hed_elfa_0d as the blend skin. Is there any way to get just the texture? I'm not sure I want to use the whole redesigned mod yet. For the most part I really like the way all the NPCs look... yes I'm odd that way. :P


Yeah, if you download the DA Redesigned mod and then just do step one (i.e., install Dracomies True Textures) that won't change any appearances in the game, but you'll get all the skins and eyes for the toolset (and Dracomies has some downright beautiful eye textures).  You don't have to install the .mor files, just install the Dracomies bit.  Since it's a multi-step process, you can do it piecemeal.

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tklivory wrote...
Yeah, if you download the DA Redesigned mod and then just do step one (i.e., install Dracomies True Textures) that won't change any appearances in the game, but you'll get all the skins and eyes for the toolset (and Dracomies has some downright beautiful eye textures).  You don't have to install the .mor files, just install the Dracomies bit.  Since it's a multi-step process, you can do it piecemeal.


Oh good. Yeah, I got the bags less defined but still not great with the current textures. I'll try these new ones now.


Much better. The freckles don't quite show up as clearly in the game, but it's pretty accurate across the board. I tested a .mop for the preset and a .mor and they look okay. There's this other updo hairstyle I would love to use, but a front hair piece keeps clipping the cheek.

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I hope Alistair likes her.

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It's RDT!!!
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Penarddun wrote...

Much better. The freckles don't quite show up as clearly in the game, but it's pretty accurate across the board. I tested a .mop for the preset and a .mor and they look okay. There's this other updo hairstyle I would love to use, but a front hair piece keeps clipping the cheek.


Lookin' good.  I'd recommend playing with the sliders for cheeks on the blend to highlight the freckles more - you can specify which parts of the face are blended.  I do this all the time for scars and freckles, so it just takes some experimentation.

Also a word of caution on .mop files: there's a known bug that affects the nose settings when you export to a mop file:

"Now, I will issue a cautionary note here, if you are making a mop file for the CC, the nose/eyes sliders will only accept all or none on the slider. In other words, if you move a nose slider to 50, the mop file will export over with the full 100 on the nose/eyes making it appear different than in the toolset. Unfortunately there is nothing that can avoid this, it's just how the toolset works."  (source)

This really annoyed me until I figured out why it happened (my noses in particular looked funky because I modify my noses a *lot*), so now I tend to use Eye Shapes as much as possible rather than the eye sliders and just use a default nose if I'm building a Custom Preset for the CC (in-game Character Creator).  Note this applies only to .mop exports: .mor exports put the eyes and nose out exactly as they are in the toolset.

Anyway, yes, I think Alistair *will* like her. ;)

And now, some RDTs:


Bad, bad Archie!

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And yet somehow, not as bad as Vaughan...

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 Some schmexxy dual wieldin' Alistair killin' stuff. <3*sigh*

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Wonderful RDT pictures! Can't wait to start making my own. Btw, Alistiar looks great with the dual wielding fighting style. I've never made him anything but sword and shield, but it might be time to branch out and give him dual or archery skills... Hmmmm.

What do you think about the dragon outside the Urn of Ashes? I killed it the first playthrough, but haven't since. I'm wondering what the companions would say about it, Alistair in particular. Would he be for killing the dragon, or just say leave it alone? With all the great other armour options, the rewards aren't a priority. And leaving it alive seems to create the best epilogue slide.


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Lookin' good.  I'd recommend playing with the sliders for cheeks on the blend to highlight the freckles more - you can specify which parts of the face are blended.  I do this all the time for scars and freckles, so it just takes some experimentation..


Thanks! I'll experiment a bit with that for my final .mor file.

I noticed the character creator in game made the face look slightly different. I must have used mostly positions/numbers it liked, because it was really hard to tell what was changed, nothing specific (no one else I asked at home could tell the difference), but it was just a little off everywhere.

I'm going to use the .mop to start the new character, so I get the general portrait position correct, and then just import the .mor file into the first save game. Figure that is the best of both worlds.

I love the tucked hair. I can't find a hairstyle I like that doesn't clip her cheeks, so I'll probably just stick with the unobtrusive plain one now that it has the hair away from the face. Brilliant mod, that one.

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High-dexterity dual-wielding Alistair is a revelation... I had him jumping on top of the Broodmother's head and doing an acrobatic tuck and roll finish after the deathblow. Just astonishing... and I didn't have him tanking, so I could put him in medium or heavy armour without worrying that he'd die on me. :o

I usually kill Not!Andraste, for the EXP, rather than the loot. Alistair doesn't care one way or the other, though he will urge the Warden to be cautious. My S+S Warrior babe Moira Cousland was feeling giddy that day, and decided to solo the high dragon. On nightmare difficulty. Good fun, that...

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Like tsm, I usually kill the Dragon for EXP, but since I tend to hit Haven as the second or third stop after Lothering (Honnleath, Tower, Haven), I use the *ahem* copout method of killing her and get away without any damage. It's one my 'bad non-RP moments', I'll freely admit. (I also sometimes will break down and take advantage of the EXP exploit in the Temple, but only if I'm doing a speed run for story, dialogue and mod testing)

EDIT: also, tsm, your Warden is awesome. :D

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tklivory wrote...

Like tsm, I usually kill the Dragon for EXP, but since I tend to hit Haven as the second or third stop after Lothering (Honnleath, Tower, Haven), I use the *ahem* copout method of killing her and get away without any damage. It's one my 'bad non-RP moments', I'll freely admit. (I also sometimes will break down and take advantage of the EXP exploit in the Temple, but only if I'm doing a speed run for story, dialogue and mod testing)

EDIT: also, tsm, your Warden is awesome. :D


*thinks* IIRC, this was Circle Tower - Redcliffe - Warden's Keep - Honnleath - Ashes. I wanted to level her enough to play through Orzammar on Nightmare+, so every bit of EXP helped!

And thank you! I'm just starting a re-play of Moira - who is an indestructable goddess :whistle: - after a bad mod install truncated her original run one treaty shy of a Landsmeet. She is my first warrior, after a whole lot of rogues and mages, and my first (presumed) happy ending non-cheat Queen o' Ferelden! Finally! (My previous Queen Cousland was a non-romance political marriage, and my Amell blood mage queen was courtesy of the Anyone Can Marry Alistair mod.)

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I just added my .mor file to my saved game, using the GFF editor, and there was a little yellow exclamation mark in the log area that said something about "shared reference no long being shared." Have you ever seen this? Is it okay?

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Penarddun wrote...

I just added my .mor file to my saved game, using the GFF editor, and there was a little yellow exclamation mark in the log area that said something about "shared reference no long being shared." Have you ever seen this? Is it okay?


:huh: Sorry, that doesn't sound familiar.  How did you add the .mor to the game?

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I also found a rather out of character picture of Lenya in my search. What armour is this Meri? :whistle:

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Ahahaha, this is me messing with Lenya and all the armor that she would never wear. I have some wonderful screens of her looking so very, very uncomfortable. :D

But my ingame explanation is actually this being Alistair's dream and hoping he wears no armo, because then he will be the one feeling very very uncomfortable then.:ph34r:  The armor is named ****ty pumpkin, btw. No sh*t xD Just don't ask me where I got it from. I have so many mods that I have grown afraid to add new ones, because I always expect something to break my game. I already have mods that are not working anymore as they should. (Dahlia's first night does not fire anymore, I need to take the other Alistair mods out for it to work, or bash locks...does not bash anymore...and I have no effing idea why

Which brings me to the graphic enhancer...I tried it too and while the textures were nice and all, I found the brightness too dark for my taste. And, err, the dark colors had suddenly all a greenish hue? Sten looked like Hulk in camp, lol. So I put it off again and live with the graphic as it is. I don't trust the other Hi-Res mods, as there are bazillions of packs to install and I really like to NOT break my brain and game. Thank you very much. 

Installing the toolset is a pain in the ass. I really have no idea how I managed to install it that it actually works. I just know that I don't want to uninstall it, as in ever.  Btw, the camp is from Dark Times Part 1 Mod, which is a massive and very good one. I have only played the half of it till now, since I didn't want to have additional companions in my Lenya game, but it adds tons of stuff. Dahlia has worked on that one, too, as far I can remember. 

http://social.biowar...m/project/2157/ 

Too bad that Act 2 will most likely never come, though, but I understand that it is a crapload of work and interests change with the time. 

I know that, since after gaming ME3 I had a hard time coming back to DA:O and my fic. Which I will complete, even if it kills me. And it probably will, given the fact how things...developed in Redcliffe. Sigh, sometimes I hate myself for the things I do to the characters. ....Then the moment passes, I cackle with glee and write on. But it kills me that I can't talk about it because...spoilers. Argh. Tklivory....beta 911? Since you are only one chapter behind of what is written and stuff.

I'm happy to see the thread in general livelier again. I'm only rarely on BSN anymore, because this thread had become so quiet and I was/I'm a tad annoyed by the general whininess/ drama of this forum/site in general. That, and tumblr pretty much ate my life. :ph34r:

For all the wonderful people who want to stalk...err follow me there, here my addy: 

http://merilsell.tumblr.com/ 

Just let me know who you are, so I have an idea why you were so crazy to add me, and hence willing to endure my random madness.:P

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tklivory wrote...

Penarddun wrote...

I just
added my .mor file to my saved game, using the GFF editor, and there was
a little yellow exclamation mark in the log area that said something
about "shared reference no long being shared." Have you ever seen this?
Is it okay?


[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie] Sorry, that doesn't sound familiar.  How did you add the .mor to the game?


I stuck the .mor into my override and then just added it to the morph row in the editor. It seems to be working fine. I checked
and the morph is in the game as it should be. Maybe the error doesn't
mean anything. I looked it up and some people had the same thing but I dont' think it does anything bad... I hope. EEk.


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The armor is named ****ty pumpkin, btw. No sh*t xD Just don't ask me where I got it from. I have so many mods that I have grown afraid to add new ones, because I always expect something to break my game. I already have mods that are not working anymore as they should. (Dahlia's first night does not fire anymore, I need to take the other Alistair mods out for it to work, or bash locks...does not bash anymore...and I have no effing idea why)


That gives me enough to go on. I will track it down with google. Thanks!

Which brings me to the graphic enhancer...I tried it too and while the textures were nice and all, I found the brightness too dark for my taste. And, err, the dark colors had suddenly all a greenish hue? Sten looked like Hulk in camp, lol. So I put it off again and live with the graphic as it is. I don't trust the other Hi-Res mods, as there are bazillions of packs to install and I really like to NOT break my brain and game. Thank you very much.


Good to know. I am getting used to the way it looks, now that I am out of the fade (first PC run is an elf mage). So I may hold off on that then. I kept telling myself to only install a few select mods to make sure I didn't break the pc game on the first go, but there are so many good ones, that don't seem to take away from the lore aspect at all, I just kept adding more and more to the override folder. I have Dark Times saved on my desktop. But I'm forcing myself to at least get through my mage playthrough before adding that, JUST so I know the current mods I have installed won't break the game.

So far I have MRP, IRS (with the 3 optional epilogue, camp fixes), royal wedding, neutral teeth, dracomies true textures (just for the freckles for making my character in the toolset), open lock spell, less barking, dark ritual, and a couple of extra hairstyles (which I'm not really using, just tucked), and a couple of armours.

So I think I'm safe from breaking my game. But those mods do add up fast! <_<


I'm happy to see the thread in general livelier again. I'm only rarely on BSN anymore, because this thread had become so quiet and I was/I'm a tad annoyed by the general whininess/ drama of this forum/site in general.


I hadn't noticed any drama (is that ME3 stuff?) But I pretty much just stayed on this thread. I had it open in my tabs as usual to see if anything new happened. I was waiting to finish building my pc and was hoping people would still be around when I finally got to installing DA. I'm definitely a bit late to the PC version.

Yes, do keep writing Meri! Yours is one of the few fanfics that I still keep up with. I'm sort of starting to write one for a mage origin. Problem is I have the last chapter written and a couple of random middle ones but nothing in the beginning yet, so it will remain on my desktop for a while still. But I really like the idea of not making Alistair king. It is something I have changed my mind about over the last few months. I did the Cousland/Queen ending the first time, but after subsequent playthrough I liked the idea of Alistair staying a Warden more and more, and I started to feel bad for Anora... crazy, I know. So I need to write all these thoughts down eventually.

I also bought an extra copy of DA:O for the PC, by accident, well more like I saw it and it looked lonely, so I bought it. :innocent: I'm trying to get my friend to start playing. I've been telling her about it since last summer. So I've decided to just give her the extra in hopes she'll try it out. I feel like I'm that creepy lady who gives DA:O discs out for Halloween instead of candy. :devil:

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I have a crippling weakness for exotic weapons and armor.  I'm pretty darn *not into those things* in RL, but for some reason I can't resist dressing up my characters like little Barbies (except, ya know, sexier and more lethal).  I love trying the more random and hilarious clothing (especially for the women) and keep hoping someone will come out with a suitably hilarious equivalent of this for men to wear (for the lulz, if nothing else).  One can dream, right?

EDIT: And yes Pernaddun, corruptio-- I mean, converting a friend is good.  Gooooood. *strokes the head of her cat*

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So I think I'm safe from breaking my game. But those mods do add up fast! <_< 


Yup, alone what I have for skins, tints, eyecolors/textures and hairstyles I have I could make hundreds of wardens without ever taking the same options/style. But then again, what do I do? Playing with Lenya. Exclusively. Lol. Well, and since I only game her save when I need ideas how to write it, I advance only really slow there. Which means I only use half of the mods I have, if at all. But I still always add more hairstyles and minor stuff. I feel like gollum hoarding up his things, unable to let it go. "MY PRECIIIIOOOOUSSSZZZZ"

:ph34r:

 I hadn't noticed any drama (is that ME3 stuff?) But I pretty much just stayed on this thread. I had it open in my tabs as usual to see if anything new happened. I was waiting to finish building my pc and was hoping people would still be around when I finally got to installing DA. I'm definitely a bit late to the PC version.

Yes, do keep writing Meri! Yours is one of the few fanfics that I still keep up with. I'm sort of starting to write one for a mage origin. Problem is I have the last chapter written and a couple of random middle ones but nothing in the beginning yet, so it will remain on my desktop for a while still. But I really like the idea of not making Alistair king. It is something I have changed my mind about over the last few months. I did the Cousland/Queen ending the first time, but after subsequent playthrough I liked the idea of Alistair staying a Warden more and more, and I started to feel bad for Anora... crazy, I know. So I need to write all these thoughts down eventually.

Well, teh ME3 ending drama, yes. Mainly. But there are other things where I just scratch my head. For example: I can't believe people are still discussing DA2. With that I don't mean the people who liked it, but the ones who hated it. I disliked it myself, but I stopped giving a damn about it months ago. :blink: So BSN is pretty much a vicious circle where the drama goes round and round with the same arguments over and over again. That being said, it is reallly better to stay in one thread and not look beyond that. I was late to the PC version myself, btw. Just bought it in the end of 2010, where most people in this thread were already done for good with it and busy with fawning over Hawke and Co. Sigh.

Oh thanks. :blush: Currently I don't read much myself, but I always keep telling myself that I will read all the stuff bookmarked in my favorites. One day. Yup. Or something *hides* As for writing, I'm sooo slow atm. And I get constantly distracted by shiny things. Given the drama in there, this is probably my brain shutting off after a while if it ever was with me in the first place, lol. Which additionally scares me...I'm not that far away from the more intimate scenes. Ummm yeah. :unsure:

Oh, I'm not much of a fan of the marriage ending myself, because it is so...standard? There are so many possibilities how the game can end and I feel like 90% of the gamer choose to marry Alistair with a HN. Nothing wrong with that, of course, it just gets boring after a while. Especially when it comes to FF.  So I'm always happy if someone chooses to write a fic with another outcome. There are way too few Post blight Alistair Warden fics out there. Or, better asked, are there any at all? :blink: So if you get your thoughts sorted out to put it in a story, I'll be happy to read it :D 

Oddly, I grew to like Anora over time, but Eamon and Isolde have my eternal hate....which is quite noticable in my fic, I think :bandit:
 

I feel like I'm that creepy lady who gives DA:O discs out for Halloween instead of candy. :devil:


:lol: 

Nothing wrong with that. 

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I too don't understand why people complain about a game they don't like *years* after it comes out.  Granted, I've been avoiding the DA2 forums because I own it and want to play it but just haven't gotten the time and inkling all at once, and thus simply don't want it horrifically spoiled (though I have already been combing through the Nexus and the Projects on BSN for mods to use when I do *whistle*).  (side excited note: there's an Ezio Auditore mod for DA2 - *squee*)

Anyway, I'm still having too much fun making morphs and playing the game with different choices, and really exploring the Quest and Add-on mods (like Quests and Legends and Dark Times) to want to move on yet.  (Of course, I put over 200 hours into Dragon Age before I even first modded it, soooo... yeah...)

Indeed, carry on, wot? :innocent: