Sorry for your loss. My thoughts are with you in this difficult time. Anything you need just let me know 
My computer died a long time ago and I haven't played Origins much since. All my posts on Imageshack got struck down when they went pay for post, so no, I haven't any shots of Alistair in Origins or DA2, only his appearances in Inquisition are left.
My computer died a long time ago and I haven't played Origins much since. All my posts on Imageshack got struck down when they went pay for post, so no, I haven't any shots of Alistair in Origins or DA2, only his appearances in Inquisition are left.
Aw man that's terrible! If you ever want anything particular or any screenshots feel free to give me a poke! I have way too many for my own good. xD
Just watched a couple of Youtube vids on DA:I - couldn't help it, had to satisfy my curiosity. Minor spoiler below.
Has this left a sour taste in the mouth for anyone else?
So Male Wardens have now been granted by the devs a somewhat complete and satisfying closure; ramming home the point of how well designed the Alistair/Female Warden romance was not to have a happy ending, or even a peace of mind ending. Male Wardens have ended up with a fluffy get-both; while females totally got screwed over to serve a plot that allows the male warden to have a perfect happy-family-siring-an-old-god-with-your-love ending. Cheers writers.
Just watched a couple of Youtube vids on DA:I - couldn't help it, had to satisfy my curiosity. Minor spoiler below.
Has this left a sour taste in the mouth for anyone else?
Spoiler
So Male Wardens have now been granted by the devs a somewhat complete and satisfying closure; ramming home the point of how well designed the Alistair/Female Warden romance was not to have a happy ending, or even a peace of mind ending. Male Wardens have ended up with a fluffy get-both; while females totally got screwed over to serve a plot that allows the male warden to have a perfect happy-family-siring-an-old-god-with-your-love ending. Cheers writers.
I consider my endings with Alistair to be quite happy, thank you very much. In fact, my canon is a female Surana who remains his mistress and he becomes king. One night with Morrigan is a small price to pay for that happiness. No relationship is perfect, and while Morrigan in love seems quite happy with her warden, so does Alistair and Leliana, even though all three are not with the HoF, they speak as if they will be 'soon' and plan to be together for a while.
And a warden (either male OR female) romancing Zevran or Leliana doesn't even have to do the Dark Ritual. They can feed Loghain or Alistair to the Archdemon and have their 'happily ever after' with the other two LI's.
You want perfect, go watch a Disney film. You want a game that makes you think, makes you make hard choices, play Dragon Age.
Oh, and BTW,
I consider my endings with Alistair to be quite happy, thank you very much. In fact, my canon is a female Surana who remains his mistress and he becomes king. One night with Morrigan is a small price to pay for that happiness. No relationship is perfect, and while Morrigan in love seems quite happy with her warden, so does Alistair and Leliana, even though all three are not with the HoF, they speak as if they will be 'soon' and plan to be together for a while.
And a warden (either male OR female) romancing Zevran or Leliana doesn't even have to do the Dark Ritual. They can feed Loghain or Alistair to the Archdemon and have their 'happily ever after' with the other two LI's.
You want perfect, go watch a Disney film. You want a game that makes you think, makes you make hard choices, play Dragon Age.
I never said I wanted a Disney ending thank you. I was just asking if anyone felt the same way, that female pcs that romanced Alistair GOT all those hard non-disney choices, while male pcs got to raise their child with their love together, plus, eliminating any downsides of their choice that allowed everyone to live? So happy endings are possible - for some.
A bitter sweet tragic ending would be fine, I love those. I don't mind the tragic Alistair dying ending, I don't mind that Alistair dumps you in the ending. I don't mind the hard choices. However, its NOT a hard choice if there's no eventual ambiguity around the DR (re spoiler - OK that's what I'm getting at so yeah, no consequenes?. Do we learn anything about how Alistair feels about the DR by the way?) it becomes a no brainer, which implies there's a "wrong" choice; which yes, leaves a bit of a bitter after taste for those that didn't do it, and seems against the philosophy of Dragon Age to me. That "One night with Morrigan" implied a lot of fall out, both immediately and in the future, personally and politically, which if they are going to sweep aside devalues the US and WC endings.
I never meant to imply that you should feel dissatisfied with your ending, but rather, people will be dissatisfied if the writers don't leave enough wriggle room for all players to role play that they can feel that they did the "right thing", and this for me, applies even in retrospect.
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So Male Wardens have now been granted by the devs a somewhat complete and satisfying closure; ramming home the point of how well designed the Alistair/Female Warden romance was not to have a happy ending, or even a peace of mind ending. Male Wardens have ended up with a fluffy get-both; while females totally got screwed over to serve a plot that allows the male warden to have a perfect happy-family-siring-an-old-god-with-your-love ending. Cheers writers.
The love between my Sorcha and her Alistair cannot be denied by BW, Mr Gaider or anyone. They have beaten the taint and have six children and a slew of grandchildren. They have lived long enough and been annoying enough for people to begin to think it time for the Maker to claim them. 
I never said I wanted a Disney ending thank you. I was just asking if anyone felt the same way, that female pcs that romanced Alistair GOT all those hard non-disney choices, while in compensation, male pcs got to raise their child with their love together, plus, eliminating any downsides of their choice that allowed everyone to live? So happy endings are possible - for some.
A bitter sweet tragic ending would be fine, I love those. I don't mind the tragic Alistair dying ending, I don't mind that Alistair dumps you in the ending. I don't mind the hard choices. However, its NOT a hard choice if there's no eventual ambiguity around the DR (spolier - OK that's what I'm getting at so yeah, no consequenes?. Do we learn anything about how Alistair feels about the DR by the way?) it becomes a no brainer, which implies there's a "wrong" choice; which yes, leaves a bit of a bitter after taste for those that didn't do it, and seems against the philosophy of Dragon Age to me. That "One night with Morrigan" implied a lot of fall out, both immediately and in the future, personally and politically, which if they are going to sweep aside devalues the US and WC endings.
I never meant to imply that you should feel dissatisfied with your ending, but rather, people will be dissatisfied if the writers don't leave enough wriggle room for all players to role play that they can feel that they did the "right thing", and this for me, applies even in retrospect.
Okay, going to chalk it down to just how things read (without emphasis hard to interpret) but your post originally read to me like "suck it up, buttercups, Morrigan lovers got the fluffy, happy ending, Alistair lovers didn't. If that's not what you were implying, I apologize. It's not the first time I have had to defend my choices in the game, I'm sure it won't be the last.
I actually found the Morrigan scenes in Inquisition strangely comforting. She's a good mother to Kieran, regardless of who the daddy is, and that was my chief worry about the OGB. I figured with Bioware not making him canon, there wouldn't be a whole lot come of it anyway so I never expected that choice to come back and bite me in the ass. Even with Inquisition's ambiguous ending (it's the same regardless of Kieran's existence or not), I'm pretty confident it's not going to be the Thedas shattering disaster some people were worried about.
Okay, going to chalk it down to just how things read (without emphasis hard to interpret) but your post originally read to me like "suck it up, buttercups, Morrigan lovers got the fluffy, happy ending, Alistair lovers didn't. If that's not what you were implying, I apologize. It's not the first time I have had to defend my choices in the game, I'm sure it won't be the last.
I actually found the Morrigan scenes in Inquisition strangely comforting. She's a good mother to Kieran, regardless of who the daddy is, and that was my chief worry about the OGB. I figured with Bioware not making him canon, there wouldn't be a whole lot come of it anyway so I never expected that choice to come back and bite me in the ass. Even with Inquisition's ambiguous ending (it's the same regardless of Kieran's existence or not), I'm pretty confident it's not going to be the Thedas shattering disaster some people were worried about.
Apologies my original post was simply bitter. But this relates to my second post - I like the tragic endings - but if the ogb is OK , and there is no real earth shattering consequenes, the there's no real reason to go US or WC. Glad some find comfort, but people who gave away everything and died or let Alistair die now feel like they well - screwed up. Actually, everybody lives - with no downsides. Other than I have to persude adorable Alistair to have a child with another woman (which now has a name - Kieran I suppose?), which is a complete emotional kick in the tainted uterus. And if I turn it down for that I'm just being well, unbelievably selfish I suppose. Oh and I have to bear his traumatised face when I raise the suggestion. Actually Alistair, your suspicisions are wrong on this one, off you go, there's a good lad.
So what's the point of the heroic sacrifice? Or the lost bastard prince going out in a blaze of glory for his kingdom? Nothing unless you like the guilt of letting Alistair die.
Modifié par DinkyD, 14 décembre 2014 - 11:17 .
Well, we know they never intended to make the OGB canon, so outside the worry of 'will this come back to slap me in the ass' the only reason for doing it (or not) is to get a happy, bittersweet (or tragic) ending for Origins. I suspect the way they dealt with it in Inquisition was to get rid of all the "OGB is/should be the protagonist for DA#4, 5, 6 etc..." crap. Certainly if roleplaying your warden, he/she can't know the future or what it will entail. And I don't know what, if anything, they have planned for the OGB really, just I was glad to see Morrigan turned out to be a really good mom who loves her little boy.
I know I get the role playing aspect and the player aspect confused, and true when you say that you were comforted by knowing that the option that let you and your LI live also didn't compromise the child. Others would be comforted by knowing the ogb was a problem, so US was a good option.
Not knowing that it would be cannon is the same as making it trivial I suppose, so that should have been a clue it didn't matter if it was accepted.
Morrigan being a good mom is great for those that took the Dark Ritual, the - me and Alistair get to live option - but again, not great for those that turned it down because they didn't want to turn over their love's child to someone who thought love was a weakness with qustionable mother role model and so on.
I think what my point is that the ogb had such significant life or death consequences that tapped so much into values/expectations/perceptions, that the writers, ihmo, should have "kicked the can down the road" and not confirmed or denied player's reasons for taking or not taking the ritual. Which, actually, I expected them to do. So, wrong again! And doing this they've respected some choices over others
I know I get the role playing aspect and the player aspect confused, and true when you say that you were comforted by knowing that the option that let you and your LI live also didn't compromise the child. Others would be comforted by knowing the ogb was a problem, so US was a good option.
Not knowing that it would be cannon is the same as making it trivial I suppose, so that should have been a clue it didn't matter if it was accepted.
Morrigan being a good mom is great for those that took the Dark Ritual, the - me and Alistair get to live option - but again, not great for those that turned it down because they didn't want to turn over their love's child to someone who thought love was a weakness with qustionable mother role model and so on.
I think what my point is that the ogb had such significant life or death consequences that tapped so much into values/expectations/perceptions, that the writers, ihmo, should have "kicked the can down the road" and not confirmed or denied player's reasons for taking or not taking the ritual. Which, actually, I expected them to do. So, wrong again! And doing this they've respected some choices over others
I don't get why you say this? They didn't make the OGB canon, they didn't do anything world shattering with the choice (or lack of) in the child. They simply addressed the plot thread and tied it up rather than leaving another one open ended. They didn't completely ignore the Warden or Alistair dying. The game doesn't insert a child if one wasn't made. In this instance Morrigan doesn't have her son, I would imagine the dialogue sans child is very different in the garden (I've only imported a DR choice because i really, really enjoy the scenes with the OGB) and one of my worries (how would the child's life be with a mother like that?) was addressed. They didn't 'respect some choices over others', they just addressed the ones you made in the game, and resolved them so we get an 'ending'. If it wasn't the ending you were expecting, I'm sorry, but I'm glad they resolved it like they did.
I'm not sure what you were expecting? A Warden still dies if you don't do the DR, Morrigan is childless in Inquisition if unromanced (and experiences no character growth from Origins to Inquisition). We don't have a crystal ball that would predict how it would turn out years ago. Whatever reasons a player (or as their warden) would have for doing or not doing the DR didn't change. As i pointed out earlier, I expected the child to have a terrible growing up like Morrigan did. That he didn't shows good writing in that Morrigan experienced growth and became a better mother than her mother was to her. Your choices were respected, it's just Bioware didn't go with what you expected to be the end result. Maybe the choices led to something extremely minor (Morrigan experiences growth and learns to love someone else more than herself), but it's still a result.
And tying up this loose end means they can move the game to new vistas without people pissing and moaning "I wanna play as my OGB child in DA:4".
I don't get why you say this? They didn't make the OGB canon, they didn't do anything world shattering with the choice (or lack of) in the child. They simply addressed the plot thread and tied it up rather than leaving another one open ended. They didn't completely ignore the Warden or Alistair dying. The game doesn't insert a child if one wasn't made. In this instance Morrigan doesn't have her son, I would imagine the dialogue sans child is very different in the garden (I've only imported a DR choice because i really, really enjoy the scenes with the OGB) and one of my worries (how would the child's life be with a mother like that?) was addressed. They didn't 'respect some choices over others', they just addressed the ones you made in the game, and resolved them so we get an 'ending'. If it wasn't the ending you were expecting, I'm sorry, but I'm glad they resolved it like they did.
I'm not sure what you were expecting? A Warden still dies if you don't do the DR, Morrigan is childless in Inquisition if unromanced (and experiences no character growth from Origins to Inquisition). We don't have a crystal ball that would predict how it would turn out years ago. Whatever reasons a player (or as their warden) would have for doing or not doing the DR didn't change. As i pointed out earlier, I expected the child to have a terrible growing up like Morrigan did. That he didn't shows good writing in that Morrigan experienced growth and became a better mother than her mother was to her. Your choices were respected, it's just Bioware didn't go with what you expected to be the end result. Maybe the choices led to something extremely minor (Morrigan experiences growth and learns to love someone else more than herself), but it's still a result.
And tying up this loose end means they can move the game to new vistas without people pissing and moaning "I wanna play as my OGB child in DA:4".
Like I've said in every post, IF the ogb isn't earth shattering there's no reason for some of the choices in DA:O because, as I've said, if there is no earth shattering consequences to the DR that anyone who let their pc or Alistair die is taken for a fool. You are actually told that they died for nothing because they were NO negative consequnces for the DR. I'm sorry if you can't relate to that. You seem delighted that its "good writing" that there are no negative consequences for the DR, but you can't see that, you know, someome might consider it good writing that their decision to sacrifice themselves wasn't in vain? That THEIR choice might be valued? As I said, they should have catered to both.
It's not the point to say that the writers did this with the story, it's the writing I have a problem with.
The fact that "growth" explains morrigan's attitude doesn't cancel out the doubts, but well done - you were surprised that morrigan would be a good mother. good for you. But, those that doubted enough to turn down the dr in defence of the child were idiots and died for no good reason - screw them. WHOOT
Modifié par DinkyD, 15 décembre 2014 - 02:09 .
Like I've said in every post, IF the ogb isn't earth shattering there's no reason for some of the choices in DA:O because, as I've said, if there is no earth shattering consequences to the DR that anyone who let their pc or Alistair die is taken for a fool. You are actually told that they died for nothing because they were NO negative consequnces for the DR. I'm sorry if you can't relate to that. You seem delighted that its "good writing" that there are no negative consequences for the DR, but you can't see that, you know, someome might consider it good writing that their decision to sacrifice themselves wasn't in vain? That THEIR choice might be valued? As I said, they should have catered to both.
It's not the point to say that the writers did this with the story, it's the writing I have a problem with.
The fact that "growth" explains morrigan's attitude doesn't cancel out the doubts, but well done - you successfully predicted that morrigan would be a good mother. good for you. Those that doubted that were wrong whoo.
I didn't say I predicted she'd be a good mother. Quite the opposite. I've been saying I didn't expect that she would be a good mother, she surprised me! I expected her to be the same manipulative, lying power mongering ******--which she is, but also one with depth--who I figured was going to eat the OGB's dragon soul or use it to do something horrible to the world, or to ...I dunno what I thought she would do with it. Nothing good, that's for sure.
I was expecting world shattering consequences too. At the very least I expected she would resent the child as she resented Alistair, but she didn't. Several of my wardens sacrificed themselves because they didn't want to give Morrigan that kind of power. That choice isn't pooped on. Your warden had no crystal ball to know what would happen. In this instance, if you made that choice then there is no child. Morrigan doesn't change. The world went on, your warden sacrificed him/herself (or Alistair or Loghain did so) and the Old God Soul is lost permanently.
But it was kind of nice to see that even if you give her the child, it's not something that ends up horribly awry. It leads to character development and Kieran turns out to be an okay kid (as of Inquisition anyway). No telling what Bioware has up their sleeves for what--if anything--more they plan. I suspect the plot line is done, but I don't write for Bioware, I could be completely off base on this one as well.
How could they have 'catered to both choices', and still remained true to the story? Because it's not canon, they can't have the OGB going on a world destruction tour. If you don't give her the child, there is no child. If you do there is. Some choices aren't world shattering. We didn't know what would happen years ago when we played Origins. If we look back now and regret it, well, that's kind of how regret works.
Knowing he isn't canon is kind of a huge red flag saying "not going to be a world shattering choice" if he's born, even as early as when we played Origins. And if you chose the tragic ending (dying yourself or losing your love) then that's the ending you chose. What happens in Inquisition doesn't change that. But for those who did the DR ending, it was kind of nice to see the child doesn't grow up alone in a swamp waiting for his mother to eat his soul, or take over his body or raise him in the same sh*tty way Flemeth did Morrigan.
Or would you have preferred that Alistair's (or the warden's) only child grows up miserable and lonely with nothing but a cold, unfeeling parent?
I didn't say I predicted she'd be a good mother. Quite the opposite. I've been saying I didn't expect that she would be a good mother, she surprised me! I expected her to be the same manipulative, lying power mongering ******--which she is, but also one with depth--who I figured was going to eat the OGB's dragon soul or use it to do something horrible to the world, or to ...I dunno what I thought she would do with it. Nothing good, that's for sure.
I was expecting world shattering consequences too. At the very least I expected she would resent the child as she resented Alistair, but she didn't. Several of my wardens sacrificed themselves because they didn't want to give Morrigan that kind of power. That choice isn't pooped on. Your warden had no crystal ball to know what would happen. In this instance, if you made that choice then there is no child. Morrigan doesn't change. The world went on, your warden sacrificed him/herself (or Alistair or Loghain did so) and the Old God Soul is lost permanently.
But it was kind of nice to see that even if you give her the child, it's not something that ends up horribly awry. It leads to character development and Kieran turns out to be an okay kid (as of Inquisition anyway). No telling what Bioware has up their sleeves for what--if anything--more they plan. I suspect the plot line is done, but I don't write for Bioware, I could be completely off base on this one as well.
How could they have 'catered to both choices', and still remained true to the story? Because it's not canon, they can't have the OGB going on a world destruction tour. If you don't give her the child, there is no child. If you do there is. Some choices aren't world shattering. We didn't know what would happen years ago when we played Origins. If we look back now and regret it, well, that's kind of how regret works.
Knowing he isn't canon is kind of a huge red flag saying "not going to be a world shattering choice" if he's born, even as early as when we played Origins. And if you chose the tragic ending (dying yourself or losing your love) then that's the ending you chose. What happens in Inquisition doesn't change that. But for those who did the DR ending, it was kind of nice to see the child doesn't grow up alone in a swamp waiting for his mother to eat his soul, or take over his body or raise him in the same sh*tty way Flemeth did Morrigan.
Or would you have preferred that Alistair's (or the warden's) only child grows up miserable and lonely with nothing but a cold, unfeeling parent?
I didn't say you thought Morrigan would be a good mother, only good enough to accept the ritual, even though you thought her to be a power lalalallala. Whatsist do da whatever.....but you took the risk.
OK, we're going round in circles here. Your consequences of not doing the DR are: there is no DR child. But there's more to it than that. Isn't there?
And yes, my pc doesn't know the consequeces in Da:I, but then again, your characters can't take comfort from knowing that Alistair's child will be taken care of.
Bioware processing those outcomes isn't the same as acknowleding the value of them.
Look, please tell me a good reason why anyone would feel good about the WC or US ending. The only reason I have involves ignoring everything but DA:O is that right?
I didn't say you thought Morrigan would be a good mother, only good enough to accept the ritual, even though you thought her to be a power lalalallala. Whatsist do da whatever.....but you took the risk.
OK, we're going round in circles here. Your consequences of not doing the DR are: there is no DR child. But there's more to it than that. Isn't there?
And yes, my pc doesn't know the consequeces in Da:I, but then again, your characters can't take comfort from knowing that Alistair's child will be taken care of.
Bioware processing those outcomes isn't the same as acknowleding the value of them.
Look, please tell me a good reason why anyone would feel good about the WC or US ending. The only reason I have involves ignoring everything but DA:O is that right?
Yea, I agree, I'm wasting my time just arguing in circles with someone I expect wanted to come complain on the BSN and I was the sucker who took the bait.
I'm done here.
Although my kneejerk reaction tends to be "YES, IGNORE METAGAMING WHEN MAKNIG DECISIONS!!!" even knowing that the OGB isn't going to be a problem I can see a player not wanting the Warden to go through with the DR simply because the US is a rather big legacy and we've been told that the Warden's story is over.
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However, I've heard some disturbing rumors ... is it true that the "Warden Mistress to King Alistair" doesn't get a shout out?
I didn't say you thought Morrigan would be a good mother, only good enough to accept the ritual, even though you thought her to be a power lalalallala. Whatsist do da whatever.....but you took the risk.
OK, we're going round in circles here. Your consequences of not doing the DR are: there is no DR child. But there's more to it than that. Isn't there?
And yes, my pc doesn't know the consequeces in Da:I, but then again, your characters can't take comfort from knowing that Alistair's child will be taken care of.
Bioware processing those outcomes isn't the same as acknowleding the value of them.
Look, please tell me a good reason why anyone would feel good about the WC or US ending. The only reason I have involves ignoring everything but DA:O is that right?
Trolling like a b*tch.
Trolling like a b*tch.
Nice.
But I did make the mistake of labouring my point to tedium because I felt I was failing to get my point across, and if I came across as trolling then I apologise.
EDIT: And, in retrospect, the post may have had an unintended tone. I didn't mean to call people out on their decisions, it was intended as a genuine appeal for insight. I'd find it really disapponting from a narrative stand point if the dr decision is totally trivialsed, or white washed over. I was asking plaintively, surely they'll be more to it than Morrigan getting to have an ordinary child won't there? Pretty please writers - throw me a bone here. But I'm probably jumping to premature conclusions anyway.
Metagaming is inevitably going to come into I suppose, because people will tend to play looking for closure on the decisions they made with their wardens. And as some may find closure knowing it's not completely obvious that the dr dooms the world, it would be nice that it was possible it still might, making the sacrifce not in vain. I think it would be a sound decision that nobody really gets closure. The problem of course is that it can't really have earth shattering effects in game - that's why I thought that it would be left very ambigous, and it's effects would not become known - you'd just continue to have this shadowy question hanging over from one game to the next maybe. I hope this is the writers' approach.
Otherwise, I'll be just as interested in the effect and meaning of the decisions made my US & W/C endings. For example, it would be nice if playing though with a charcter you got to appreciate what your own US warden achieved with their sacrifice. I don't want it dismissed as well, you chose that ending, oh & Alistair just died too, end of story, anyway moving on with DA:I....it's a cop out.
Even if the dr has some horrible consquences, it could still be defended on the basis that it saved a life. There would still be something to discuss in these forums still. Not so the other way round - if there are no horrible consequences someone died to prevent nothing bad from happening. Nothing to even ponder over. The dr is a win/win button that some wardens didn't press. The biggest decision in the game turns out not to be a dilemma at all. It's all a lopsided anticlimax.
Modifié par DinkyD, 15 décembre 2014 - 04:45 .
Just watched a couple of Youtube vids on DA:I - couldn't help it, had to satisfy my curiosity. Minor spoiler below.
Has this left a sour taste in the mouth for anyone else?
Spoiler
So Male Wardens have now been granted by the devs a somewhat complete and satisfying closure; ramming home the point of how well designed the Alistair/Female Warden romance was not to have a happy ending, or even a peace of mind ending. Male Wardens have ended up with a fluffy get-both; while females totally got screwed over to serve a plot that allows the male warden to have a perfect happy-family-siring-an-old-god-with-your-love ending. Cheers writers.
Assuming, DinkyD, that you weren't trolling, I'm going to post this. This isn't mine, DarkSpiral said it in another thread regarding this question of "What is the purpose of the DR if it's not some world shattering alternate bad choice", but it sums up pretty much what I was trying to point out a couple days ago. Bolded for emphasis the point I was trying to make.
{{Quote}}So that you can make the choice, of course. I give flak to people from time to time that rant about how the choices don't matter in regard to the sequels. Would you honestly prefer a game that didn't let you make choices at all? They do have them. Lots of them, in fact. Far worse would be to never tie the thread off at all.
A choice only needs to matter in the moment, and hoo boy did the Dark Ritual matter at the time. Now, I say this with the understanding that the next game, and all game sin the franchise, will have new protagonists. If the game carried forward the same character, that would be different.{{Quote}}
Meh.. just you watch. My warden will cure the calling and ultimately the taint then she and Alistair will have lots lots more little wardenlings than morrigan will ever have. And they will all have Ali's hairdo even the girls!
YES 
Sweet head cannon easies the pain! (or future writing -well unlikely)
Hey Merry Christmas! Is that Alistair related?
Merry Christmas to you too and all of Al's pals. 
Maybe someone can post a pic of Alistair in Santa's hat? That would be Alistair related. I lack the talents do to so.
Merry Christmas Alistairians!
So, I'm playing Dragon Age Inquisition, and for the first time this playthrough I decided to have Alistair as a Grey Warden (who romanced Warden!Amell)
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