Gawd, soo much this 100x over. Never felt so much sadness over a game as when the end credits of Origins rolled. I played DAII first and my reaction was "thank god its over". I felt really foolish when the quest to meet King Alistair came up and I thought "who the fook is King Alistair?" :-p Took me a great while before I played Awakening because I knew the crew won't be there except Oggy.
DA2 butchered Alistair's and Zevran's looks. 
I hate to admit that I have spent far too many hours on this game since I decided to install it in February. I'd added it to my Origin account when it was offered free in October, but never thought I would actually play it more than a run through. I've been an avid Sims fan since the first one, and never really found myself drawn into any other games until now. I've been lurking here for the past month, and finally decided it was time to post 
I started it without any spoilers, avoided any forums, discussions or play throughs the first time. When Alistair ninja'd my Dalish elf with the rose and the kiss I was completely hooked on the game. Sadly she didn't have the happy ending I wanted for her. Alistair dumped her after the lands meet and she chose to not do Morrigan's DR, killing the archdemon herself. I think I cried for two days! Now my canon is FN Rouge that jointly rules with Alistair, though I did one run through where she let him rule alone and stays with him. I'm not exactly sure what happened (I have the Cousland wedding mod added) and at the end of that one the wedding scene played and I was like, wait what? Did Alistair just marry the warden anyway? Not that I oppose at all, it was just a surprise.
I did play though a CEF who romanced Zevron, I attempted to break things off with him twice, but the heartbroken looks he gave had me reloading the scene. It worked for this PC but I'm completely an Alistair fan. After the landsmeet he asked that she stay around and help him, she did try to talk her way out of it, but he got rather testy with her and insisted that she stay after it was all over. Morrigan convinced her to get Alistair to do the DR to save Zevron from loosing the only person he truly loved, and to ensure that Therin blood stay on the throne.
I loved the game so much I had to read The Stolen Throne and The Calling to better understand the history of Ferelden. I still can't bring myself to let Logain live, and after seeing a video of his reaction in Return to Ostegar I don't think I ever could. He is so blinded by hate that he cannot act in the true interest of Ferelden. I also see much of Maric in Alistair despite him never actually knowing his father, and I don't think I could ever let him just walk away from the throne and simply be a warden.
I just completed an Awakening run through and I wish I had looked at some spoiler’s because it did not end as I thought. I did not intend to let the Architect live, especially after finishing The Calling! I thought I would still have a chance at defeating him in the end. Somehow I think this play through was bugged, Nathaniel Howe's relationship status hit (Love) around 70-80, right after we met up with his sister, and stayed that way through the whole game. I wish I had been a lfy on the wall during that talk, I wonder what she said that made him go from warm to love I’m pretty sure that wasn’t intended and there certainly weren’t any flirty dialogues between them. I can accuse Anders of mild flirting, but not Nathaniel.
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I just completed an Awakening run through and I wish I had looked at some spoiler’s because it did not end as I thought. I did not intend to let the Architect live, especially after finishing The Calling! I thought I would still have a chance at defeating him in the end. Somehow I think this play through was bugged, Nathaniel Howe's relationship status hit (Love) around 70-80, right after we met up with his sister, and stayed that way through the whole game. I wish I had been a lfy on the wall during that talk, I wonder what she said that made him go from warm to love
Even though I tease about my "married to King Alistair" Cousland having a crush on Nate, I never really saw his approval of her getting to 100% love to be THAT kind of love. I saw it as friend love, not romance love. They never flirted with each other but instead indicated mutual trust and respect. I only played Awakening with this female Cousland and with a male Cousland, in a committed romance with Zevran (he even got a letter from Zevran during the game), so I have no idea if there are flirt options for a warden not in a romance.
PS Nice first post Kadan!
I play Awakening right now and Maker! i miss my husband lol. Where the heck Alistair the Warden gone?
BTW welcome to madness Kadan
Wow when I did the Ultimate Sacrifice on my dwarf fighter it was kind of nice and touching. I'm thinking you had a different experience.
Oh it was very touching, but it was still very sad. I didn't used to be so sappy when I was younger. There are few movies or books I can read without tears anymore. I'm becoming a softy as I age. After that play through I found a walk through, I knew there was so much I had missed the first time and wanted a plan for the second play through. The mods went in next, and then I bought the Ultimate Edition to have all the DLC and Awakenings. I'm not in a hurry to buy the next two, but I know that I will eventually. At first I felt cheated, knowing that most of them would not return in the future games, but like any of my favorite novel series' I reallized that a beloved character's story makes way for others even if it is bitter sweet.
DA2 butchered Alistair's and Zevran's looks.
Don't remind me. King!Alistair looked decades older and Zevran... even the mod I ended up using doesn't come close to fixing what they did to him. (He at least looks better now that he has eyebrows. But still.)
Don't remind me. King!Alistair looked decades older and Zevran... even the mod I ended up using doesn't come close to fixing what they did to him. (He at least looks better now that he has eyebrows. But still.)
Oh the horror! They really messed t up that bad??
Oh the horror! They really messed t up that bad??
They did! Alistair is a bloated mess and Zevran didn't look like Zevran. 
I agree, they really look like if they were someone else. As I had played DA2, when I played DA:O I didn’t match Alistair with the king of DA2 until his conversation about his father in Redcliffe! They didn’t looked alike! The worst, playing DA:O I didn’t remember that already I had met Zev in DA2! However, looking in the brighter side, I think Cullen looks better In DA2 than in DA:O. In DA:O he seemed older than himself ten years later!
Thankfully, they have done a fine job with Alistair’s face in DA:Inquisition, despite his new hair style… he looks in his early thirties and it makes him interesting
Dragon Age fanart with Alistair. Not mine, just sharing. NSFW.
http://www.deviantar...Skill-499172225
wow that's nice work there !!
Dragon Age fanart with Alistair. Not mine, just sharing. NSFW.
Lordy! 
Evildude you are evil. Why can't Al be real (sobs into cereal)
Breaking out of Origins lurkdom
So I just started Origins (for the first time) a few days ago. I started with a FCE rogue who was I planning on romancing Zevran with and then Alistair tried to ninjamance her with his gift (I really didn't think they were getting to that point)! I was so sad that I had to let him down gently that I immediately started a FHN rogue just for him. So far I'm loving Alistair's sense of humor and his awkwardness at times. Oh Alistair 
Returning to lurkdom
Our Al is hard to pass up. The only way I was able to romance Zevran was with a male dalish. Sorry Al - but you get them most times. 
Dragon Age fanart with Alistair. Not mine, just sharing. NSFW.
http://www.deviantar...Skill-499172225
Breaking out of Origins lurkdom
So I just started Origins (for the first time) a few days ago. I started with a FCE rogue who was I planning on romancing Zevran with and then Alistair tried to ninjamance her with his gift (I really didn't think they were getting to that point)! I was so sad that I had to let him down gently that I immediately started a FHN rogue just for him. So far I'm loving Alistair's sense of humor and his awkwardness at times. Oh Alistair
Returning to lurkdom
Welcome EggplantRed join the fray!
"Behind Alistair’s candid earnestness lies a conflicted character. Steve Valentine, Alistair’s voice actor, shares his thoughts on the man who might be king of Ferelden. As it turns out, there’s plenty more to Alistair than witty one-liners and great hair."
http://blog.bioware....air-in-between/
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