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[Qun00]

As Tumblr's passion for trivial things is endless, there currently is a little war over whether Alistair is "biracial" or not.

This is based on the fact that he was more tanned in Origins, compared to his design in DAI. It would seem that white people only come in one skin tone.

[GoldenGail3]

Some Hawkes of mine would be expendable, but only the ones I never finished or never played (made just for Keep).  The only Warden Alistair import I had a 'never finished' Hawke as my DA2 protagonist.  I ended up leaving her in the Fade.  Varric wasn't too happy.  I'd never sacrifice Kit or William though, those were my go-to Hawkes.  Those were Stroud/Loghain imports, though I really enjoyed Loghain's cameo in DAI.  I might have altered that world state to let him emerge at the end, but I was too far committed to the path I'd already chosen, and I had a Hawke I actually enjoyed as the guest companion.  Been too sick to play again, and I get the feeling no matter which GW emerges, you get the same speech at that point anyway.
 
If I'm still around for DA4 and they continue using Keep, I may alter that play to have Loghain as the senior warden in Southern Thedas.  Keep makes it so much easier to get the world state you want.

I'd never kill my Isabela romance, either. He's the only Hawke i really like enough to never kill ever. All of my other Hawkes are there as filler, to be honest.

[GoldenGail3]

As Tumblr's passion for trivial things is endless, there currently is a little war over whether Alistair is "biracial" or not.
This is based on the fact that he was more tanned in Origins, compared to his design in DAI. It would seem that white people only come in one skin tone.

Yeah, I noticed that too - Alistair looked pale white in DAI, not even the slightest tan on him. I wonder if that cave was good for him or not...

[Qun00]

His hair was dark blonde too, but that isn't worth nitpicking. He still looks Alistair-ish enough for me.

[robertmarilyn]

For my current DAI game, I replayed DAO and DA2 with leaving Hawke in the fade, in mind. I'll never leave Alistair in the fade and hate to leave Hawke there so I made this last Hawke, my "disposable" Hawke. 

 

As far as Alistair's skin tone in DAO vs DAI, I see it as DAO Alistair spending so much time traveling the country, getting lots of sun while the DAI Alistair has spent a lot of time in caves and dark, shady place, hiding from the GWs who are trying to capture him. 

[GoldenGail3]

For my current DAI game, I replayed DAO and DA2 with leaving Hawke in the fade, in mind. I'll never leave Alistair in the fade and hate to leave Hawke there so I made this last Hawke, my "disposable" Hawke. 
 
As far as Alistair's skin tone in DAO vs DAI, I see it as DAO Alistair spending so much time traveling the country, getting lots of sun while the DAI Alistair has spent a lot of time in caves and dark, shady place, hiding from the GWs who are trying to capture him.

Yeah, that's true. Although, I don't honestly think my Amell looks any better right now - she's probaly pale too and covered in Darkspawn blood, cause she's trying to avoid people right now, to find the cure to the taint in a more time efficient manner and becuase maybe she's slightly afraid Cory will come after her too, so she's also hanging around caves too...

[Ghost Gal]

As Tumblr's passion for trivial things is endless, there currently is a little war over whether Alistair is "biracial" or not.

This is based on the fact that he was more tanned in Origins, compared to his design in DAI. It would seem that white people only come in one skin tone.

 

I was about to say, "Of course he's biracial; his mom's an elf and his dad's a human. Since all human/elf children look like human though, and none of their descendants will ever look elven again, we could talk about the logistics of whether they're elf-blooded humans or just humans."

 

The reason they gave is... really not even I can't believe.

[GoldenGail3]

I was about to say, "Of course he's biracial; his mom's an elf and his dad's a human. Since all human/elf children look like human though, and none of their descendants will ever look elven again, we could talk about the logistics of whether they're elf-blooded humans or just humans."
 
The reason they gave is... really not even I can't believe.

Would you pefer that it was Baldurs Gate? Their are Half-Elves in Baldors Gate - which I find interesting...

[kimgoold]

Would you pefer that it was Baldurs Gate? Their are Half-Elves in Baldors Gate - which I find interesting...

 

That may be the only way we'll get a healthy proportionate male elf in this game! And I'd love to see some pointy ears on Alistair. (I cant draw but its cute).

[GoldenGail3]

That may be the only way we'll get a healthy proportionate male elf in this game! And I'd love to see some pointy ears on Alistair. (I cant draw but its cute).

Yeah, but this isn't Baldors gate... Theirs no such thing as Half-Elves in DA, their Elf-Blooded, cerntaly, but they look like humans in genealogy so there's that...

[Qun00]

Funnily enough, they seemed to be going for a half-elf thing with Feynriel. He looked like an elf with human ears.

[Qun00]

Funnily enough, they seemed to be going for a half-elf thing with Feynriel. He looked like an elf with human ears.

[GoldenGail3]

Funnily enough, they seemed to be going for a half-elf thing with Feynriel. He looked like an elf with human ears.

Becuase Feryneriel is a Mage, he somehow looks more elven then human due to that trait...

[Qun00]

That is just a theory.

[thats1evildude]

This is based on the fact that he was more tanned in Origins, compared to his design in DAI. It would seem that white people only come in one skin tone.

 

Ha! My dad was white and his skin was pretty dark. Attribute that to years of being out in the sun and a lifetime of smoking.

 

Becuase Feryneriel is a Mage, he somehow looks more elven then human due to that trait...

 

I've never seen these supposedly elven traits in Feynriel that others are apparently able to pick up on.

 

Besides Alistair, Michel de Chevin is not clearly a halfblood either.

 

[springacres]

As Tumblr's passion for trivial things is endless, there currently is a little war over whether Alistair is "biracial" or not.

This is based on the fact that he was more tanned in Origins, compared to his design in DAI. It would seem that white people only come in one skin tone.

And never lose their tans.  -smh-

[Ghost Gal]

Would you pefer that it was Baldurs Gate? Their are Half-Elves in Baldors Gate - which I find interesting...

 

It doesn't matter what I want. DA isn't D&D. Thedas isn't Faerun. They're two different universes with different genetic rules.

 

Funnily enough, they seemed to be going for a half-elf thing with Feynriel. He looked like an elf with human ears.

 

I think that was DA2's new art style. Remember how they redesigned everything? Elves, dwarves, Qunari, darkspawn, etc? It's likely the art department decided they wanted to make half-elf human hybrids slightly thinner and pointier-eared to make them look more elfy, but since that goes against established lore or the fans complained or both, they dropped it.

 

(Funny enough, Fenris' master Danarius also had Feynriel's slightly pointed ears, which has led many fans to speculate that he's a half-elf hybrid too.)

 

I'm actually not a fan of their lore decision to make it so elf/human hybrids look completely human so elven blood is lost entirely, but I can respect the lore reason. In-universe elves don't like it either since too much "mingling" with humans means they assimilate completely into humanity and their species goes extinct, but if that's the lore BioWare has chosen I'd rather they stick with it instead of rewriting it again. I'd also much prefer that to saying one thing and showing another.

 

Tell: "Elven/human children all look completely human."

Show: Feynriel.

 

And then that becomes weird because Alsitair, Slim Couldry (implied), and Michal de Chevin are all supposed to be half-elves who don't look anything like elves. If the artists changed it so all half-elves looked like elves but we're told they are or look fully human, it'd make it harder to take the lore seriously than it already is. (Plus Alistair would probably look weird as a visible half-elf hybrid for DAI.)

[GoldenGail3]

I think that was DA2's new art style. Remember how they redesigned everything? Elves, dwarves, Qunari, darkspawn, etc? It's likely the art department decided they wanted to make half-elf human hybrids slightly thinner and pointier-eared to make them look more elfy, but since that goes against established lore or the fans complained or both, they dropped it.
 
(Funny enough, Fenris' master Danarius also had Feynriel's slightly pointed ears, which has led many fans to speculate that he's a half-elf hybrid too.)
 
I'm actually not a fan of their lore decision to make it so elf/human hybrids look completely human so elven blood is lost entirely, but I can respect the lore reason. In-universe elves don't like it either since too much "mingling" with humans means they assimilate completely into humanity and their species goes extinct, but if that's the lore BioWare has chosen I'd rather they stick with it instead of rewriting it again. I'd also much prefer that to saying one thing and showing another.
 
Tell: "Elven/human children all look completely human."
Show: Feynriel.
 
And then that becomes weird because Alsitair, Slim Couldry (implied), and Michal de Chevin are all supposed to be half-elves who don't look anything like elves. If the artists changed it so all half-elves looked like elves but we're told they are or look fully human, it'd make it harder to take the lore seriously than it already is. (Plus Alistair would probably look weird as a visible half-elf hybrid for DAI.)

I'm glad we agree that Alistair would weird as if he were a Half Elf...

[GoldenGail3]

I've never seen these supposedly elven traits in Feynriel that others are apparently able to pick up on.

Besides Alistair, Michel de Chevin is not clearly a halfblood either.

Yeah, I know, i was speculating on why they think that... After all, Elf Blooded get more Elven traits if their mages.. It has to do with Magic... But Alistair is a son of an Elven Mage and yet he has no elven traits on him... I dunno why people think Feynriel looks more elven then human...?

[Qun00]

Still waiting for you to provide evidence.

[GoldenGail3]

Still waiting for you to provide evidence.

Did you not read my post that highlighted me saying I was guessing?

http://dragonage.wik...iki/Elf-blooded And here anyhow, if you soooo want to know becuase I don't know anything it would seem. I get myself into topics I don't know how to explain....

[Seven Zettabytes]

Yeah, I know, i was speculating on why they think that... After all, Elf Blooded get more Elven traits if their mages.. It has to do with Magic... But Alistair is a son of an Elven Mage and yet he has no elven traits on him... I dunno why people think Feynriel looks more elven then human...?

 

People probably think Feynriel looked elven because he had the facial features of his mother. In Origins or Inquisition looking like the elven parent wouldn't necessarily have meant looking like an elf specifically (for example, I personally think Fiona looks a lot like the Origins version of Alistair), but in DA2 elves were redesigned to look different from humans in more ways than just 'pointy ears'. They had a distinct look. 

[GoldenGail3]

People probably think Feynriel looked elven because he had the facial features of his mother. In Origins or Inquisition looking like the elven parent wouldn't necessarily have meant looking like an elf specifically (for example, I personally think Fiona looks a lot like the Origins version of Alistair), but in DA2 elves were redesigned to look different from humans in more ways than just 'pointy ears'. They had a distinct look.

Agreed on that last bit - I liked DA2 Elves designs, they weren't overly skinny and I hate the elf design in DAO so much... Ugh...

[Ghost Gal]

People probably think Feynriel looked elven because he had the facial features of his mother. In Origins or Inquisition looking like the elven parent wouldn't necessarily have meant looking like an elf specifically (for example, I personally think Fiona looks a lot like the Origins version of Alistair), but in DA2 elves were redesigned to look different from humans in more ways than just 'pointy ears'. They had a distinct look. 

 

No, Feynriel also had slightly pointed pointed ears on top of having slighter features.

 

Like I said, Danarius also had those same slightly pointed ears that no other human besides Feynriel had, leading people to speculate that he was half-elven. And I just looked it up.

 

Apparently there's a character named Eiton in the game Dragon Age Legends, which is based on DA2, and he looks like a pointy-eared human. Here's his concept art.

 

Personally, I'm not too big on these because they contradict the lore that children of an elven and human parent look fully human. If they went with DA2's redesigns where half-elves look a little elven, it would make it those who can "pass" as fully human, like Alistair and Michal, wouldn't work. And that's actually pretty important to their characters.

 

According to The Calling, Alistair's mom gave him to Maric partly because she didn't want him to experience the racism against elves that she did. If Alistair lived in a setting where humans of elven parents were slimmer and pointier-eared like Feynriel and Eiton (and implied Danarius), this would never work. Everyone would look at him and instantly notice, "Hey, he's a half-elf!" And you could kiss that whole Goldanna personal quest and "spare to the throne" plotline and worldstate goodbye. 

 

Agreed on that last bit - I liked DA2 Elves designs, they weren't overly skinny and I hate the elf design in DAO so much... Ugh...

 

Ugh, are you kidding me?

 

They look terrible. Even the best of them have bulbous heads on matchstick bodies (except Fenris, who gets a human-model body), with giant bug eyes and foreheads that dip down to the tip of her nose. Yeah, you can argue that a few DA2 elves look halfway decent (like Merrill, Fenris, and Athenril), but that's only because they look more human. If the DA2's elves are supposed to look so great, how come they have to make them look more human to make them look decent? Might as well cut out the middle man and just make them look like "slim humans with pointy ears (and big eyes)" to begin with.

 

Plus, for lore reasons I have a hard time believing that humans would find diseased goat people attractive, and... well:

 

[GoldenGail3]

No, Feynriel also had slightly pointed pointed ears on top of having slighter features.
 
Like I said, Danarius
 
Ugh, are you kidding me?
 
They look terrible. Even the best of them have bulbous heads on matchstick bodies (except Fenris, who gets a human-model body), with giant bug eyes and foreheads that dip down to the tip of her nose. Yeah, you can argue that a few DA2 elves look halfway decent (like Merrill, Fenris, and Athenril), but that's only because they look more human. If the DA2's elves are supposed to look so great, how come they have to make them look more human to make them look decent? Might as well cut out the middle man and just make them look like "slim humans with pointy ears (and big eyes)" to begin with.
 
Plus, for lore reasons I have a hard time believing that humans would find diseased goat people attractive, and... well:
 

Have you ever seen the messed up shite the DA creators made of Elves in DAI? THEY.LOOK.LIKE.THEY CAN FALL APART! They're skinny and I think the only decent looking elf in DAI is Sera... Solas Is lucky the creators took pity on him and gave him clothing that didn't make him look like how the male elf is. Omg, yeah, it gives me a new liking of DA2's elf design as a whole, despite them looking anime..