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[Yankee23]

@Inclemency - you were right about those teeth on Gilmore, wtf?  The morph I made started out with his original head. One conversation and I was right back in the toolset. Much better now.

TOP.

Modifié par Yankee23, 11 septembre 2010 - 10:53 .

[Addai]

Monica21 wrote...

tuppence95 wrote...
I have no reason to doubt anything Loghain says.  I'm sure that is either what he believed, or that is what actually happened.  I can see Maric wanting to acknowledge Alistair, but assuming Fiona is the mother, he did make the promise to her.  I just doubt very much that Loghain knew of the Orlesian connection.  I think he would've made sure Maric never acknowledged that he had a part-Orlesian bastard son.

This I agree with, but I still think he would have been able to connect the dots enough to be suspicous. And I still believe that if he knew definitively who Alistair's mother was, that he would have used it against him at the Landsmeet. So while he may have suspected, it's something he could never prove. Loghain also has a selfish reason to protect Rowan's memory, considering he loved her more than Maric ever did. (In my opinion.)

And my comment about doubting wasn't directed at you; my apologies if I came off as harsh. I just don't see the need for disbelieving something that's probably true because a character you don't like said it.

He might never have actually seen Alistair or known enough to realize what the time frame was.  I could see it working like this:  Loghain hears rumors from Redcliffe that there's a boy running around who's the king's bastard.  He goes to confront Maric, and Maric basically grunts non-answers at him, from which Loghain presumes that Maric must not have recognized the boy because he was trying to hide him from Rowan.  That was the only reason Loghain probably could come up with why Maric would do such a thing.  It would have been easier for everyone for Loghain just to believe his false suppositions, so Maric never corrects him, and in Loghain's mind it becomes the truth of what happened.

Modifié par Addai67, 11 septembre 2010 - 10:58 .

[Addai]

Monica21 wrote...

tuppence95 wrote...
I think Loghain is telling the "truth" as he knew it.  Check out the quote I posted from The Calling a couple pages back.  Yes, Loghain must've known about Alistair being Maric's bastard.  But Maric went to some lengths to keep Fiona's involvement from Loghain.  Loghain was practically keeping Maric a prisoner at that time, and Maric had to wait until Loghain was away from the castle before he managed to sneak Fiona and Duncan in.  I really doubt that Loghain knew that Alistair's mother was Orlesian.  [based on the Fiona - Alistair theory.]

I don't know if he knew exactly who Alistair's mother was, but he is smart enough to narrow down any potentials just based on timeframe alone.

And that doesn't speak to whether Loghain knew that Maric "nearly" acknowledged him. Again, there's no reason to doubt him unless you don't believe it because it's Loghain.

I don't doubt him because he's Loghain, but rather because in The Calling you see Maric being cagey and concealing things from him.  So everyone's guess that Maric and Loghain were bosom buddies who told each other all was just a facade.  Hence why I doubt Loghain knew much about Alistair at all.

[inclemency]

Yankee23 wrote...

@Inclemency - you were right about those teeth on Gilmore, wtf? The morph I made started out with his original head. One conversation and I was right back in the toolset. Much better now.
*snip*

Omg, your good looking morph had those teeth? When I venture to play that mod again you'll have to tell me how you fixed them! Lol, they were bizarre, weren't they?

Modifié par inclemency, 11 septembre 2010 - 11:20 .

[Lady Jess]

Awww I think they're crushin'

[Giggles_Manically]

Nice is that from Cmessaz origin specific scene?

[Lady Jess]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Nice is that from Cmessaz origin specific scene?

Yep. I figured I'd try it out before we headed into the forest. The romance is triggered but he's only at interested at the moment.  Gotta keep it that was til we see what a jerk Zathrien was to his clan.

[Giggles_Manically]

Lady Jess wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Nice is that from Cmessaz origin specific scene?

Yep. I figured I'd try it out before we headed into the forest. The romance is triggered but he's only at interested at the moment.  Gotta keep it that was til we see what a jerk Zathrien was to his clan.

I actually liked Zathrian.
His charachter had some real depth to it, and showed what hatred can do to people.

Plus the ending where he dies, and cures the curse, mixed with the music and all is just awsome.

[Lady Jess]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Nice is that from Cmessaz origin specific scene?

Yep. I figured I'd try it out before we headed into the forest. The romance is triggered but he's only at interested at the moment.  Gotta keep it that was til we see what a jerk Zathrien was to his clan.

I actually liked Zathrian.
His charachter had some real depth to it, and showed what hatred can do to people.

Plus the ending where he dies, and cures the curse, mixed with the music and all is just awsome.

As a character maybe. But as a Keeper, to a Dalish warden, he's betrayed his clan, and at least Lyra believes her people to be better than that, she expected betrayal from humans but not a keeper, this person trusted with the care and protection and leadership of an entire clan. His hatred almost destroyed them from within.

[Yankee23]

Lady Jess wrote...

[snip]

Awww I think they're crushin'

*mutters jealously about Lady J's awesome screenshots*

[Giggles_Manically]

Lady Jess wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Nice is that from Cmessaz origin specific scene?

Yep. I figured I'd try it out before we headed into the forest. The romance is triggered but he's only at interested at the moment.  Gotta keep it that was til we see what a jerk Zathrien was to his clan.

I actually liked Zathrian.
His charachter had some real depth to it, and showed what hatred can do to people.

Plus the ending where he dies, and cures the curse, mixed with the music and all is just awsome.

As a character maybe. But as a Keeper, to a Dalish warden, he's betrayed his clan, and at least Lyra believes her people to be better than that, she expected betrayal from humans but not a keeper, this person trusted with the care and protection and leadership of an entire clan. His hatred almost destroyed them from within.

Thats more what I meant as a charachter he has great depth and is very interesting.
Also that point also changed my Dalish as well, he didnt go all I HATEZ SHEMS! when he was recruited but seeing a person he thought was supposed to represent his people become such a villian was a turn.

[errant_knight]

Lady Jess wrote...

No matter what I do, I never get a good front view of Alistair in this scene. It's always Sten or someone. I'm thinking Lyra might have actually ran shrieking into his chest after Archie came flying up out of there.

How did Alistair end up in this shot? who was in the party. It always seems to be Oghren, for me....

[Addai]

It depends on party placement who is where in the Dead Trenches shots. I think that spot on the ledge is for #2? And #3 will be behind you in the "glare at Archie" shot. You can go back to Orzammar and make a save before going to the Dead Trenches, and experiment with moving party members around. Not that I've done this, of course! 

Modifié par Addai67, 11 septembre 2010 - 11:53 .

[Yankee23]

I always have Alistair in slot 2 and that's usually the shot I get. I like how it looks like they might be holding hands if you catch it right.

[LadyDamodred]

Meet Carys, Alistair's Dalish lady though neither of them know it yet.

[Lady Jess]

LadyDamodred wrote...

Meet Carys, Alistair's Dalish lady though neither of them know it yet.

Nice! and look he's already praying to the maker!

[LadyDamodred]

Lady Jess wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Meet Carys, Alistair's Dalish lady though neither of them know it yet.
*snip*

Nice! and look he's already praying to the maker!

Carys isn't mean at all.  A little wary, a little distant, but she doesn't hate shems.

She will, however, be very, very confused about the rose.

[tuppence95]

LadyDamodred wrote...

Meet Carys, Alistair's Dalish lady though neither of them know it yet.
*snip*

She looks great!  I like her eyes.  I wish I hadn't done the slanty eyes and pouty mouth on  mine, but I've past the point where I'd want to do her over again.

[inclemency]

LadyDamodred wrote...

Meet Carys, Alistair's Dalish lady though neither of them know it yet.
*snip*

She looks great, and that tattoo looks nice, as well.  I always wondered what it would look like in the game, it's really nice on her.

[Addai]

More Dalish love. 

[cmessaz]

Lady Jess wrote...



Awww I think they're crushin'

Awww how cute! This is one scene I haven't been able to use my own character in yet.

Edit: ENGRISH CME!

Modifié par cmessaz, 12 septembre 2010 - 12:25 .

[Merilsell]

Addai67 wrote...
More Dalish love. 

Yay.

Alistair approves:

[cmessaz]

Yankee23 wrote...

I always have Alistair in slot 2 and that's usually the shot I get. I like how it looks like they might be holding hands if you catch it right.

I am guilty of always having Alistair in the 2nd slot. I've actually started trying to change that up a bit. Btw nice new avatar yankee!

[errant_knight]

Addai67 wrote...

It depends on party placement who is where in the Dead Trenches shots. I think that spot on the ledge is for #2? And #3 will be behind you in the "glare at Archie" shot. You can go back to Orzammar and make a save before going to the Dead Trenches, and experiment with moving party members around. Not that I've done this, of course! 

Heh, I'll be doing that to get the pictures. Thanks!

[Lady Jess]

LadyDamodred wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

Meet Carys, Alistair's Dalish lady though neither of them know it yet.
*snip*

Nice! and look he's already praying to the maker!

Carys isn't mean at all.  A little wary, a little distant, but she doesn't hate shems.

She will, however, be very, very confused about the rose.

lol no no I meant praying to the maker "look, i know I'm not the religious type, but if you can just make this ONE girl like me..."