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And you lot call David Gaider a sadist...both of those scenarios are just :crying:

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

The guy who plays Nigel on Crossing Jordan, is the guy who plays Alistair?
Wierd since I have watched the show before and would never have put that toghther.

I think he has more of a London working-class accent in Crossing Jordan.  For Alistair he did more of a BBC accent.  Of course, that makes Alistair...

Hottest. BBC anchor.  Evah.

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Speaking of which, I know the actor is Scottish, but is Alistair's accent a Scottish accent. I would have placed it as English, but I've never been to Scotland, and I'm sure there are regional differences.

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tuppence95 wrote...

hollirae wrote...
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OK I am still trying to wrap my head around this being the sexy voice of ALISTAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Really.  No I am going to listen very carefully.  Hmmm I wonder if that is going to change my opinion of Alistair???   I guess we will see when I play tonight.


I've seen better pictures of him.  I kinda like this one.  www.imdb.com/media/rm1946521088/nm0884313


OK now that picture does them both justice!!!  I am not saying he is bad looking he is just not who I pictured attached to Alistairs voice.Image IPB


Giggles_Manically wrote...

The guy who plays Nigel on Crossing Jordan, is the guy who plays Alistair?
Wierd since I have watched the show before and would never have put that toghther.


SEE THAT"S WHAT I MEAN!!

I really enjoy the voice work I just never pictured Him...Ok I don't know who I pictured for Alistairs voice, but ....

Modifié par hollirae, 13 août 2010 - 08:51 .


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Sorry double post

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On the subject of how long people lived: the upper classes if they survived childhood and didn't die in wars didn't die that young. I looked at the life spans of a bunch of medieval kings once and what I found was that they typically died between 45 and 65 if they didn't die of war-related causes or hunting accidents. Some lived into their 70s though it wasn't common. That's not really that far beyond where a Warden's 30 years would take him, though. It's hard to say how magical healing would impact that, but it's worth noting that we meet very few really old characters in the game. Other than perhaps Irving (and Flemeth of course), is there anybody who appears to be over 60?

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maxernst wrote...

On the subject of how long people lived: the upper classes if they survived childhood and didn't die in wars didn't die that young. I looked at the life spans of a bunch of medieval kings once and what I found was that they typically died between 45 and 65 if they didn't die of war-related causes or hunting accidents. Some lived into their 70s though it wasn't common. That's not really that far beyond where a Warden's 30 years would take him, though. It's hard to say how magical healing would impact that, but it's worth noting that we meet very few really old characters in the game. Other than perhaps Irving (and Flemeth of course), is there anybody who appears to be over 60?



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maxernst wrote...

On the subject of how long people lived: the upper classes if they survived childhood and didn't die in wars didn't die that young. I looked at the life spans of a bunch of medieval kings once and what I found was that they typically died between 45 and 65 if they didn't die of war-related causes or hunting accidents. Some lived into their 70s though it wasn't common. That's not really that far beyond where a Warden's 30 years would take him, though. It's hard to say how magical healing would impact that, but it's worth noting that we meet very few really old characters in the game. Other than perhaps Irving (and Flemeth of course), is there anybody who appears to be over 60?


My point was actually that comparing Fereldan life expectancy or diet to the Medieval era of ours is a moot anyway.
We don't know that much about dwarves or elves or even golems or mages and their longevity or lack thereof for instance.

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UpiH wrote...

Speaking of medieval longevity re KoP: Both Averroes and Alhazen lived over 70 years.


They happened to live in what was at the time the most advanced civilisation in terms of medicine. That's not what Ferelden is.

But I forgot why we were arguing about this in the first place, it's not important.  

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I always equate the timeframe to the Elizabethan, rather than Medieval years. Either way there are a quite a few howlers, the first big one for me is the one being that Elissa/Aedan Cousland would never have met Cailan before Ostagar.

Modifié par inclemency, 13 août 2010 - 09:23 .


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30 years with Alistair.. give or take a few... then the 2 of us go fight darkspawn in the Deep Roads.. finding time to appreciate each other with antidotes of the past years.. "Glorious"Image IPB             I can live with thatImage IPB (my PC that is)

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

UpiH wrote...

Speaking of medieval longevity re KoP: Both Averroes and Alhazen lived over 70 years.


They happened to live in what was at the time the most advanced civilisation in terms of medicine. That's not what Ferelden is.

But I forgot why we were arguing about this in the first place, it's not important.  


Yeah, there was a great medicine school by the time of Averroes, can't remember whether it was in Baghdad or in Medina. That's why I tossed Yarrow Mamout, a 19th century American in the mix, because you spoke of the diet. 
 
Methinks Alistair speaking of cooking is just a quip aimed at infamous British "cuisine". You know, one of the world's thinnest books: British Gourmet. Asterix in Britain or in the Legion iirc had more of it.

I didn't think a moment we were "arguing" but rather just discussing and jokingly at that.

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Okay people Half-Alidragon is as done as I'm going to do.. so.. Skadi.. eat your heart out...:D


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reference/base  pic provided by Zyanic. 

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Khalara wrote...

Okay people Half-Alidragon is as done as I'm going to do.. so.. Skadi.. eat your heart out...:D


(awesome pic above)
reference/base  pic provided by Zyanic. 

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Khalara wrote...

Okay people Half-Alidragon is as done as I'm going to do.. so.. Skadi.. eat your heart out...:D

reference/base  pic provided by Zyanic. 


My God!........That's awesome!
<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3

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Wow, that's fantastic, Khalara! *fave*



:)

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don't repost the image please... we got in trouble for that on the other thread...

Thanks again guys.. :blushes:
I don't know why I torture myself drawing scales... but they are so neat and they look good on him.. and... agh.. I'm a glutton for punishment I guess.. At least they weren't teeny tiny scales. :crosses eyes:

Modifié par Khalara, 13 août 2010 - 09:35 .


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Cutie:

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As for 30 years being a long time.... My parents just celebrated their 36th anniversary and have been together for 42 years. In same cases, especially with young Wardens, 30 years isn't very long at all.

I don't get it. Why does the fact your parents have been together for over thirty years mean that thirty years isn't a long time?

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UpiH wrote...

maxernst wrote...

On the subject of how long people lived: the upper classes if they survived childhood and didn't die in wars didn't die that young. I looked at the life spans of a bunch of medieval kings once and what I found was that they typically died between 45 and 65 if they didn't die of war-related causes or hunting accidents. Some lived into their 70s though it wasn't common. That's not really that far beyond where a Warden's 30 years would take him, though. It's hard to say how magical healing would impact that, but it's worth noting that we meet very few really old characters in the game. Other than perhaps Irving (and Flemeth of course), is there anybody who appears to be over 60?


My point was actually that comparing Fereldan life expectancy or diet to the Medieval era of ours is a moot anyway.
We don't know that much about dwarves or elves or even golems or mages and their longevity or lack thereof for instance.

Yep, if they were real medieval people, the men would be closer to five feet tall than six, everyone would be missing teeth, and few people would make it past 40.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

UpiH wrote...

Speaking of medieval longevity re KoP: Both Averroes and Alhazen lived over 70 years.


They happened to live in what was at the time the most advanced civilisation in terms of medicine. That's not what Ferelden is.

But I forgot why we were arguing about this in the first place, it's not important.  

I'm pretty sure it started with people saying it's better to have a fellow Warden LI (not necessarily because Alistair just a fellow Warden over a non-Warden) because it's not fair to the non-Warden that in thirty years you're going to die. I think thirty years is long enough that it's not horribly unfair. It's not like you're getting together knowing you have only a year to live or anything like that.

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hollirae wrote...

maxernst wrote...

On the subject of how long people lived: the upper classes if they survived childhood and didn't die in wars didn't die that young. I looked at the life spans of a bunch of medieval kings once and what I found was that they typically died between 45 and 65 if they didn't die of war-related causes or hunting accidents. Some lived into their 70s though it wasn't common. That's not really that far beyond where a Warden's 30 years would take him, though. It's hard to say how magical healing would impact that, but it's worth noting that we meet very few really old characters in the game. Other than perhaps Irving (and Flemeth of course), is there anybody who appears to be over 60?



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Actually, Arl Eamon, at the beginning of the blight, would be about 45 (he was 15 in the stolen throne, which began in Glory 8:99.  The blight, according to the bioware folks, begins in dragon 9:30).

By that same aging standard, Loghain is about 50, give or take a couple of years. 

Eamon just doesn't seem to be aging as well as his brother (Teagan, by that same standard, would be about 38).  Of course, he IS married to screeching-harpy-crazywoman Isolde.  That's gotta age you.

Uh...to make this Alistair-thread-worthy, Eamon would have been about 25 I guess when he was handed Al as a baby?  :huh:

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hollirae wrote...

maxernst wrote...

On the subject of how long people lived: the upper classes if they survived childhood and didn't die in wars didn't die that young. I looked at the life spans of a bunch of medieval kings once and what I found was that they typically died between 45 and 65 if they didn't die of war-related causes or hunting accidents. Some lived into their 70s though it wasn't common. That's not really that far beyond where a Warden's 30 years would take him, though. It's hard to say how magical healing would impact that, but it's worth noting that we meet very few really old characters in the game. Other than perhaps Irving (and Flemeth of course), is there anybody who appears to be over 60?



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Not sure I agree...what's the tooltip say (not that it's infallible)?  I would have guessed they were in their fifties,  which is where I tend to place Wynne and Gregoir as well.  Loghain fights awfully well for a guy over sixty.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

UpiH wrote...

Speaking of medieval longevity re KoP: Both Averroes and Alhazen lived over 70 years.


They happened to live in what was at the time the most advanced civilisation in terms of medicine. That's not what Ferelden is.

But I forgot why we were arguing about this in the first place, it's not important.  

I'm pretty sure it started with people saying it's better to have a fellow Warden LI (not necessarily because Alistair just a fellow Warden over a non-Warden) because it's not fair to the non-Warden that in thirty years you're going to die. I think thirty years is long enough that it's not horribly unfair. It's not like you're getting together knowing you have only a year to live or anything like that.


That reminds me of the last line of Blade Runner.  "Too bad she won't live, but then again, who does?"

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You guys always forget the other races. Alistair's LI could be an elven or dwarven lady as well. There are old elves and dwarves, remember the storyteller in the Dalish Camp and their leader and whatnot, not to speak of the Dwarven Shaperate guy to mention just a few.



Maybe we should compare the longevity to those of, say Adam, Noah, Metuselah etc. They were well in their 900's, I'm told... So, 30 years is not at all that long a time.