tuppence95 wrote...
Lady Jess wrote...
"maybe if I lean a little he'll notice..."
This is so cute! But what has your mage done to him? I've never seen Alistair look so stoic.
Lady Jess wrote...
tuppence95 wrote...
Lady Jess wrote...
"maybe if I lean a little he'll notice..."
*clip
This is so cute! But what has your mage done to him? I've never seen Alistair look so stoic.
Maybe it's staring at the Tower bringing bad icky templar memories. Pshh he should try being a mage!
"Jaina...stop teasing Cullen!"
"Jaina...no fireballs in the library!"
"Jain, we do NOT cast itching spells on the Knight Commander!"
"Young Lady...what you and Anders were doing in the kitchen is strictly forbidden!"
tuppence95 wrote...
Lady Jess wrote...
tuppence95 wrote...
Lady Jess wrote...
"maybe if I lean a little he'll notice..."
*clip
This is so cute! But what has your mage done to him? I've never seen Alistair look so stoic.
Maybe it's staring at the Tower bringing bad icky templar memories. Pshh he should try being a mage!
"Jaina...stop teasing Cullen!"
"Jaina...no fireballs in the library!"
"Jain, we do NOT cast itching spells on the Knight Commander!"
"Young Lady...what you and Anders were doing in the kitchen is strictly forbidden!"
I like Jaina! My mage, who grew up with the Dalish, isn't nearly so much fun!
I've said it many times and won't belabor, but I dispute that this is the best for Ferelden in the long run, because no heir is coming out of that match and you're taking a big chance that they will get along at all rather than tearing at each other. Better IMO is to let one of them rule alone. It's short-term thinking to end the civil war by putting them together.Giggles_Manically wrote...
Its sad that whats best for the country is the worst for Alistair.
-ie Hardened and Married to Anora, with Loghain doing the US with no OGB running amok.
Addai67 wrote...
I've said it many times and won't belabor, but I dispute that this is the best for Ferelden in the long run, because no heir is coming out of that match and you're taking a big chance that they will get along at all rather than tearing at each other. Better IMO is to let one of them rule alone. It's short-term thinking to end the civil war by putting them together.Giggles_Manically wrote...
Its sad that whats best for the country is the worst for Alistair.
-ie Hardened and Married to Anora, with Loghain doing the US with no OGB running amok.
Addai67 wrote...
I've said it many times and won't belabor, but I dispute that this is the best for Ferelden in the long run, because no heir is coming out of that match and you're taking a big chance that they will get along at all rather than tearing at each other. Better IMO is to let one of them rule alone. It's short-term thinking to end the civil war by putting them together.Giggles_Manically wrote...
Its sad that whats best for the country is the worst for Alistair.
-ie Hardened and Married to Anora, with Loghain doing the US with no OGB running amok.
tuppence95 wrote...
inclemency wrote...
Can't wait to get this game done so I can go back to playing a Cousland!
I'm feeling the same way, but I've got much further to go. My Dalish mage hasn't even started Orzammar yet. She and Alistair can't seem to make up their minds. They both have too many issues with each other's backgrounds. My Cousland girl can just throw herself at him without worrying about all this templar/apostate nonsense.
I think the conflicts are exactly that what adds the needed spice in the relationship, otherwise it becomes boring fast. I like overcoming obstacles and a bumpy relationship that needs time to work a lot more than just throwing myself (or better saying my PC) at him. Because when you get past that stage, the result is much more gratifying. <3 Could be part of the reason why I'm more an elf/mage and a lot less a Princess CousCous person, I think. 
Lady Jess wrote...
This one's
basically good just devilish and adventurous. The problem being
Alistair is still stuck at "What do you need" grumpy stage because he
didn't like some of her smartass answers. I lost -10 for recruiting
ZEvran because she wisecracked about picking up castoffs. And another 5
with Shayle because I ordered her to attack him, and told him he pointed
out the obvious...lol
Merilsell wrote...
tuppence95 wrote...
inclemency wrote...
Can't wait to get this game done so I can go back to playing a Cousland!
I'm feeling the same way, but I've got much further to go. My Dalish mage hasn't even started Orzammar yet. She and Alistair can't seem to make up their minds. They both have too many issues with each other's backgrounds. My Cousland girl can just throw herself at him without worrying about all this templar/apostate nonsense.
Well and that is where we see things differently.Lady Jess wrote...
This one's
basically good just devilish and adventurous. The problem being
Alistair is still stuck at "What do you need" grumpy stage because he
didn't like some of her smartass answers. I lost -10 for recruiting
ZEvran because she wisecracked about picking up castoffs. And another 5
with Shayle because I ordered her to attack him, and told him he pointed
out the obvious...lol
Haha, tell me about it. Lenya did the same and Alistair was not amused. Right now in my third playthrough with her, I even had to cheat with one of those feast-day presents to get him anywhere near where he now is in my FF. There he is already caught somewhere between horror, acceptance and fascination of her behavior and person. Heh.
Personally, I see him getting over it as highly debatable, and very limited if it happens at all. If Loghain dies, I see him as eventually being able to be civil if circumstances require them to be in the same room, but that's about it. For him, what the PC does there crosses an uncrossable line, in my view. That doesn't mean that he won't be just as unforgiving of himself if he leaves, but that has no bearing on his feelings about the warden's actions.inclemency wrote...
Giggles_Manically wrote...
inclemency wrote...
Giggles_Manically wrote...
inclemency wrote...
My PC is a bit cheesed off at Alistair at the moment. She spared Loghein at the Landsmeet, kept Alistair to his bargain of marrying Anora, and he's mad at her now (I wonder why). Even though those are terrible things, she thinks he still shouldn't have just left her flat after yelling at her. For that, I think it's going to be a US ending for my PC....so there! *stamps foot*
Can't wait to get this game done so I can go back to playing a Cousland!
He's yelling at me, mom *sniffle*
Simon T does a good job though right at the end though you might find it hard to go US.
Also Morrigan's argument for the DR with Loghain around is fail to say the least.
Yeah, he does, I've done the Loghein US before. This PC of mine has a few problems of her own, she's a mage and I think the folks at the Tower messed with her mind while growing up just a bit too much. She lost her friend Jowan, now Alistair, and I don't think she sees much to survive for. In time, I think she would, but Alistair's defection, no matter the reason, was the straw. She's not feeling very enamoured of Riordan, either, since it was his 'superior' advice she listened to.
A pissed off Alistair, with a very silent Riordan
*snip*
True enough outside of his "compelling reasons" line Riordian is one failworthy salesman.
But if you do go US, then think about what happens to Alistair and losing one friend like that, he may be angry but in a while he will get over it. While its not may not be any indication really Awakening shows that Alistair is over it by that time.
Also if you can hear Loghain's banter with Dog/Wynne/Zevran its awsome.
I just took that party through RtO, which was pretty amazing. Aside from that, I think this PC could care less what Alistair is feeling at the moment since it's always been she comforting or bolstering Alistair up, with not much of that coming back at her. I think she knows he'll eventually get over it, but she's so hurt she doesn't really care, and cannot imagine ever getting over his voluntary abandonment. I think she's not only hurt, but feels some contempt for him, as well.
She doesn't know yet about the Archdemon, so is figuring on, if she survives, doing the deep roads. She doesn't see any future, as here she is still a mage, and feels she can never be free of the Circle since she is now, ostensibly, alone. Once she hears about the Archdemon she will embrace that fate gladly.
I don't think I've ever played such a depressed, and now, really damaged PC. She just went her own path despite what I had planned for her.
Strange not being able to get Alistair hugs
Aww, you don't have to be sorry. Let me know when your FF is online too.Reika wrote...
Maria13 wrote...
Merilsell wrote...
Well I meant you, Knight
Short lore question: Is the increased hunger of the Grey Warden staying for life or is that a new Warden-thing? Lenya and Alistair currently share an onslaught on piles of food in Tapsters in my ficlet, lol.
I am sure I saw DG say somewhere that GWs do have an increased metabolism... It's what I've used in my FF anyway, increased appetites of all kinds, makes them interesting to write about. You could then characterise the calling as a rapid burn-out where everything starts disappearing fairly quickly...
My bad, sorry Merilsell.
As for the metabolism, I agree I can see the Joining causing it to be increased somewhat. Initially it would be worse since the body is adapting to the poison, but it'd probably taper off a bit after awhile. I don't think it'd go back to pre-Joining simply because when someone is healing they tend to eat more so the body has the resources to rebuild itself, but since the Taint is permanently a part of the Warden, their body will always be in that mode.
As for the increased appetite in every department... that surely is an interesting aspect for their *cough* later relationship *cough* 
Merilsell wrote...
tuppence95 wrote...
inclemency wrote...
Can't wait to get this game done so I can go back to playing a Cousland!
I'm feeling the same way, but I've got much further to go. My Dalish mage hasn't even started Orzammar yet. She and Alistair can't seem to make up their minds. They both have too many issues with each other's backgrounds. My Cousland girl can just throw herself at him without worrying about all this templar/apostate nonsense.
Well and that is where we see things differently.
Giggles_Manically wrote...
I dont care if he is unhappy.
I am not going to murder a person who surrenders, in front of his only child.
The fact that he does it, does not impress me at all.
Maria13 wrote...
Merilsell wrote...
Well I meant you, Knight
Short lore question: Is the increased hunger of the Grey Warden staying for life or is that a new Warden-thing? Lenya and Alistair currently share an onslaught on piles of food in Tapsters in my ficlet, lol.
I am sure I saw DG say somewhere that GWs do have an increased metabolism... It's what I've used in my FF anyway, increased appetites of all kinds, makes them interesting to write about. You could then characterise the calling as a rapid burn-out where everything starts disappearing fairly quickly...
David Gaider wrote...
2papercuts wrote...
so if "corruption" serves as nourishment, then why do wardens eat more? wouldn't they eat less? i think there a conversation about that in DAO
The corruption serves as nourishment to darkspawn... and Wardens are not darkspawn? Perhaps a Warden's body needs nourishment in order to combat the spread of what is effectively a disease they've taken into their own system. Perhaps their body just doesn't like the "nourishment" it's being provided, or prevents the Warden from properly taking nourishment from food so they have to eat more. Perhaps it speeds up their metabolism (something darkspawn perhaps don't possess). Take your pick.
Modifié par Herr Uhl, 20 septembre 2010 - 06:02 .
tuppence95 wrote...
Merilsell wrote...
Well and that is where we see things differently.
Oh, don't get me wrong. Some of the emotional rollercoaster that my DE mage has been on has made the gameplay really interesting. She's not a human-hater, but since her origin story, she's been pretty distrustful of everyone. And what she saw in the tower made her push her ex-templar further away. She's not been a happy camper, and I doubt that she and Alistair will get together until closer to LM. I just wish she hadn't turned into such a sour character. I had originally envisioned her as being sort of a wild child who loved living outdoors and wasn't bound by the rules of society. But this one seemed to have a mind of her own, and so far, she's not having much fun. The only companion she gets along with so far is Sten. Maybe after she meets ghoul Tamlen & ashes Tamlen, she'll let go of her grief and unstiffen a little.
Oh don't get me wrong. You don't have to justify that. I think if things work out as they are supposed to and I get a new PC and DA for it at the end of the year, I'll try a new Cousland as well with all the awesome mods. But on console and modless it's rather....boring for me to fire up a new CousCous.When I played Brin, I thought I had finished with the Couslands. But
the new scenes that cmessaz made, the Cousland hugs and the upcoming
royal wedding is making me really eager to play another one.
Here have a broodmother plushie 
Heh, 'take your pick' canon is less than totally helpful, although it does up your word count as your characters bring up all these possibilities, deciding on nothing as proven fact.Herr Uhl wrote...
Maria13 wrote...
Merilsell wrote...
Well I meant you, Knight
Short lore question: Is the increased hunger of the Grey Warden staying for life or is that a new Warden-thing? Lenya and Alistair currently share an onslaught on piles of food in Tapsters in my ficlet, lol.
I am sure I saw DG say somewhere that GWs do have an increased metabolism... It's what I've used in my FF anyway, increased appetites of all kinds, makes them interesting to write about. You could then characterise the calling as a rapid burn-out where everything starts disappearing fairly quickly...
It increases appetite, but if it is because of the taint accelerating metabolism (hence the shorter lifespan and all that, my pet theory) or if it is because the taint hinders the body from taking up nutrients from the food, thus having you eat more, he didn't say. Can't find the quote though.
Edit: Found the quoteDavid Gaider wrote...
2papercuts wrote...
so if "corruption" serves as nourishment, then why do wardens eat more? wouldn't they eat less? i think there a conversation about that in DAO
The corruption serves as nourishment to darkspawn... and Wardens are not darkspawn? Perhaps a Warden's body needs nourishment in order to combat the spread of what is effectively a disease they've taken into their own system. Perhaps their body just doesn't like the "nourishment" it's being provided, or prevents the Warden from properly taking nourishment from food so they have to eat more. Perhaps it speeds up their metabolism (something darkspawn perhaps don't possess). Take your pick.
Modifié par Merilsell, 20 septembre 2010 - 06:27 .
Zjarcal wrote...
Oh, Derp Day! I've never contributed to it. I believe the encounter with the Ogre at the tower of Ishall provides the best opportunity for a Derpy shot.
Merilsell wrote...
Well that's a typical DG quote, though. He likes to let the player the possibility to choose what's right and never would be flat out saying "That is Wrong, you n00b!!!"Except when you ****** him off, that's it
Merilsell wrote...
Oh don't get me wrong. You don't have to justify that. I think if things work out as they are supposed to and I get a new PC and DA for it at the end of the year, I'll try a new Cousland as well with all the awesome mods. But on console and modless it's rather....boring for me to fire up a new CousCous.
errant_knight wrote...
Heh, 'take your pick' canon is less than totally helpful, although it does up your word count as your characters bring up all these possibilities, deciding on nothing as proven fact.David Gaider wrote...
2papercuts wrote...
so if "corruption" serves as nourishment, then why do wardens eat more? wouldn't they eat less? i think there a conversation about that in DAO
The corruption serves as nourishment to darkspawn... and Wardens are not darkspawn? Perhaps a Warden's body needs nourishment in order to combat the spread of what is effectively a disease they've taken into their own system. Perhaps their body just doesn't like the "nourishment" it's being provided, or prevents the Warden from properly taking nourishment from food so they have to eat more. Perhaps it speeds up their metabolism (something darkspawn perhaps don't possess). Take your pick.
Modifié par DahliaLynn, 20 septembre 2010 - 06:32 .
DahliaLynn wrote...
It's obvious that he probably hasn't yet decided on on particular justification for the effects of the increased apetite just yet. And all said possibilities are valid options.
Herr Uhl wrote...
DahliaLynn wrote...
It's obvious that he probably hasn't yet decided on on particular justification for the effects of the increased apetite just yet. And all said possibilities are valid options.
Why is it that every time they tell you something like "take your pick" they haven't decided? I don't think he just wrote that wardens gain an increased appetite for the lulz, he likely also had a reason for it in mind when deciding it.
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