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[Reika]

Sarah1281 wrote...
 If you don't see a RP reason to give someone a gift, don't buy it, sell it, or give it to the wrong person. Still, since you're actually travelling together for a year one would imagine that you'd get to know your companions well enough to see what they like and be able to choose gifts appropriately.

The other way I see it is that a good number of the small gifts you get from looting things. I could totally see one of your companions perking up at seeing something that they like, or someone else commenting that they think someone else would like something. I've had that happen often enough just going to the mall with friends way back when I was still a teen.

Edit: ToP

Modifié par Reika, 24 septembre 2010 - 01:32 .

[mellifera]

I mean, it's not like I've never had any of my characters make that choice though. If it fits for them, it fits. Not all of them are pragmatic, many of them are idealistic or hardheaded and do what they feel is best. That it doesn't blow up in their face is kind of a huge missed opportunity and makes that choice kind of "meh" to me.

@KoP- Exactly. There are a lot of parts in the game that are just frustrating because you DON'T have a choice. Especially in the origins, how many times have I wanted to tell Jowan or Tamlen to go shove it up their ass but I can't. I understand there are limits, but sometimes it hurts my brain. Or how the majority of the dialogue options when you play as a non-andrastian are rude as hell, you can't just say "No thanks." but "No thanks, I hope Andraste gets eaten alive by weevils and you're stupid for believing that sh*t." Not everyone who doesn't believe in a religion is openly hostile to people who do...

Modifié par yukidama, 24 septembre 2010 - 01:30 .

[Morwen Eledhwen]

Sarah1281 wrote...

If you don't see a RP reason to give someone a gift, don't buy it, sell it, or give it to the wrong person. Still, since you're actually travelling together for a year one would imagine that you'd get to know your companions well enough to see what they like and be able to choose gifts appropriately.

Well, Oghren, Shale, Zevran and Leliana are pretty obvious in what gifts are "for" them. Alistair also appreciates it if you buy him a drink after a long day. I admit that I wouldn't have jumped to Sten's or Wynne's preferences, or some of Alistair's and Morrigan's, if I hadn't read the Codex (or engaged in some trial and error in my first playthrough). But I don't buy gifts unless I feel like it from a RP point of view, and I don't give them unless I'm inspired to as well. As I had said before, I had RP reasons to have my Mage give Alistair his mother's amulet back. She's not a very emotional character; spite is an emotion. So she wasn't going to let the fact that he yelled at her affect her previous decision to give him the amulet she found and suspected was his mother's.

[Morwen Eledhwen]

Reika wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...
 If you don't see a RP reason to give someone a gift, don't buy it, sell it, or give it to the wrong person. Still, since you're actually travelling together for a year one would imagine that you'd get to know your companions well enough to see what they like and be able to choose gifts appropriately.

The other way I see it is that a good number of the small gifts you get from looting things. I could totally see one of your companions perking up at seeing something that they like, or someone else commenting that they think someone else would like something. I've had that happen often enough just going to the mall with friends way back when I was still a teen.

That's a good point. It could be a communal loot: "Hey, anyone want this gold brick?" "Me me me!!"

[Zjarcal]

yukidama wrote...

I mean, it's not like I've never had any of my characters make that choice though. If it fits for them, it fits. Not all of them are pragmatic, many of them are idealistic or hardheaded and do what they feel is best. That it doesn't blow up in their face is kind of a huge missed opportunity and makes that choice kind of "meh" to me.

This.

I admit that I do choose the mages option for my mage PC, because she feels guilty for letting Jowan go (who could've helped in here) and she obviously knows that the Circle can deal with this sort of situation. Had there been a major blowup when returning from the Circle would've been great. As it is though, meh.

[mellifera]

MariSkep wrote...

It doesn't have to be the disney option. It's still up to you why your Warden is doing it. Maybe he doesn't think much of abominations or chalks up the demons success to an understaffed and hopelessly caught off guard castle. Maybe he just doesn't think much of the humans who freak out over every little ghoul they see and decides he's willing to risk it if it guarantees him the cooperation of Eamon's entire house. Maybe he's like my Daylen and has already been to the deeproads and the Tower and has begun to gather he's forces around Redcliffe. (not really that big a stretch to think the Town is much more secured then it was before)

Just me though trying to justify going with the pansy option, though.

Yeah, that's what I am saying. It fits for some Wardens depending on how you roleplay it, but personally I think it's kind of lame because there isn't any consequence.

[Elessara]

Whoa! KoP! I agree with you on something! I'd love to be able to ditch Eamon.

It seems like such a waste of time! Criss-crossing the country trying to find the holy grail? For why? You don't need Eamon especially since Teagan has already established that he's against Loghain.

[Sarah1281]

Alistair also appreciates it if you buy him a drink after a long day.

Really? Aren't all the alcholic gifts for Oghren or Wynne?

[Reika]

Morwen Eledhwen wrote...


That's a good point. It could be a communal loot: "Hey, anyone want this gold brick?" "Me me me!!"

I've played a good bit of D&D over the years, most loot is generally communal which is how I generally treat it in games like DA:O.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Even Disney is darker than this. Bambi? Lion King? Hunchback of Notre Dame?

Yes, I think I got the point across of how much I hate that choice.

[phaonica]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Imagine my pain, literally my mental pain, when I have to rp a non-andrastian dwarf who looks at the religion with ridicule, to now decide to go look for the ashes of some burnt women that supposedly can heal stuff, something that even Templars and the Chantry as a whole dismiss as a pathetic myth. Why? Because Teagan thinks it's not quaint to replace his brother as Arl.

It's I wonder how I love this game so freaking much.

Even in my very first playthrough of the game, when I was getting used to being able to make meaningful choices (which isn't really common in video games, in my experience) when they told me that I'd be looking for a mythological artifact I was going: Seriously? You're sending me to find a *myth* when there is this Blight thing to deal with? 

yukidama wrote...
. Or how the majority of the dialogue options when you play as a non-andrastian are rude as hell, you can't just say "No thanks." but "No thanks, I hope Andraste gets eaten alive by weevils and you're stupid for believing that sh*t."

The first Chantry sister I ever talked to I thought was mean as hell. She asked me if I wanted a Blessing, and I said "no thank you" and she was like "then burn in hell, heathen."  Needless to say, I wasn't converted.

[Sarah1281]

yukidama wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

It doesn't have to be the disney option. It's still up to you why your Warden is doing it. Maybe he doesn't think much of abominations or chalks up the demons success to an understaffed and hopelessly caught off guard castle. Maybe he just doesn't think much of the humans who freak out over every little ghoul they see and decides he's willing to risk it if it guarantees him the cooperation of Eamon's entire house. Maybe he's like my Daylen and has already been to the deeproads and the Tower and has begun to gather he's forces around Redcliffe. (not really that big a stretch to think the Town is much more secured then it was before)

Just me though trying to justify going with the pansy option, though.

Yeah, that's what I am saying. It fits for some Wardens depending on how you roleplay it, but personally I think it's kind of lame because there isn't any consequence.

The demon is possessing a small child and takes up some of his characteristics. I think it's pretty obvious what happened was that he got his favorite toys taken away and was sulking about it until you come back.

[Sarah1281]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Even Disney is darker than this. Bambi? Lion King? Hunchback of Notre Dame?
Yes, I think I got the point across of how much I hate that choice.

Yeah, it definitely feels like a Disney sequel-esque choice.

[Sialater]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Alistair also appreciates it if you buy him a drink after a long day.

Really? Aren't all the alcholic gifts for Oghren or Wynne?

Nah, Alistair's a cheap drunk.  Oghren likes the expensive stuff.  Wynne doesn't like ale.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Elessara wrote...

Whoa! KoP! I agree with you on something! I'd love to be able to ditch Eamon.

First, it's something. Then it's a lot of things. Eventually, everything

*cough* please do ignore my evil laugh. 

[mellifera]

Yeah, the chantry people aren't exactly openminded either.... hah.

[Morwen Eledhwen]

Just me though trying to justify going with the pansy option, though.

But what's interesting is that my one PC who picked that option was my City Elf, who did it for the *least* compassionate reasons of all: She thought it was an interesting challenge, they'd be able to claim another ally through the treaties while they were at it and, being a Denerim City Elf, she didn't much care one way or another if a bunch of humans suffered while she was gone.

Earned big approval points with Alistair, though:


http://t2.gstatic.co...mNt5MNqc0JCSXI=

[Sarah1281]

Sialater wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Alistair also appreciates it if you buy him a drink after a long day.

Really? Aren't all the alcholic gifts for Oghren or Wynne?

Nah, Alistair's a cheap drunk.  Oghren likes the expensive stuff.  Wynne doesn't like ale.

Wine is the alcoholic option I was referring to for Wynne and she tells Oghren she likes that in a banter.

[Morwen Eledhwen]

Sialater wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Alistair also appreciates it if you buy him a drink after a long day.

Really? Aren't all the alcholic gifts for Oghren or Wynne?

Nah, Alistair's a cheap drunk.  Oghren likes the expensive stuff.  Wynne doesn't like ale.

Not true! Oghren gets Wynne to taste some of his "special brew" in a party banter. She liked it. I was shocked. . .

And Alistair doesn't give you as much approval for booze as Oghren does, but he gives you a good +6 for wine or ale, and then diminishing amounts afterwards.

[Reika]

Morwen Eledhwen wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Alistair also appreciates it if you buy him a drink after a long day.

Really? Aren't all the alcholic gifts for Oghren or Wynne?

Nah, Alistair's a cheap drunk.  Oghren likes the expensive stuff.  Wynne doesn't like ale.

Not true! Oghren gets Wynne to taste some of his "special brew" in a party banter. She liked it. I was shocked. . .

And Alistair doesn't give you as much approval for booze as Oghren does, but he gives you a good +6 for wine or ale, and then diminishing amounts afterwards.

I can see why Alistair would appreciate a drink. Considering the fact I use him as a meatshield for combat it's only fair I buy the poor guy a drink or two.

[Reika]

Okay, double post, sorry about that. I though the board ate my previous one.

Modifié par Reika, 24 septembre 2010 - 01:53 .

[Jadiefever]

Something's gotta get him giggly, right?

[MageTarot]

Morwen Eledhwen wrote...

And Alistair doesn't give you as much approval for booze as Oghren does, but he gives you a good +6 for wine or ale, and then diminishing amounts afterwards.

I'd love a drunk Alistair cutscene!!

[Jadiefever]

MageTarot wrote...

Morwen Eledhwen wrote...

And Alistair doesn't give you as much approval for booze as Oghren does, but he gives you a good +6 for wine or ale, and then diminishing amounts afterwards.

I'd love a drunk Alistair cutscene!!

Wouldn't we all!

Kinda wanna see a tipsy Wynne too. Just to sate my curiosity^_^