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[Lady Jess]

I haven't played since yesterday morning. Even after a dozen playthroughs this game and it's writing can make me go "Damn you Alistair" and turn it off in a snit. I seriously got the lecture over Isolde, headed to Haven, fought Sten, and by the time that was over was so mad about him thinking blood mages were evil, and by that Jaina is evil I LITERALLY flipped him AND Sten off behind my screen and quit. I knew it was coming of course, but that didn't make it any less ...personal. Damn you Gaider!!

Modifié par Lady Jess, 24 septembre 2010 - 04:53 .

[Merilsell]

klarabella wrote...

It's so strange. Alistair doesn't like my human noble. She's probably too much of a no nonsense type, not very patient or gentle. But he approves of my city elf who is walking around asking dumb questions and cracking jokes.

Must be his father's genes. He was also always more courteous with elves

I have some good news to report--  SynysterLyfe is working on a Skip the
Deep Roads mod. You should see it within the next couple of weeks.

Yay and another good reason for me to get the PC version.

[Siduri]

inclemency wrote...

It's always fun to hear about ways you've not played DA.  Even after all the characters I've played, it amazes me to find things still not done!

I have a question -- I've heard the HNF can declare herself Alistair's queen even if she's not romancing him. Has anyone done this? I'm really curious as to what the dialogue is like afterwards, but it would be soooo hard to go through almost the whole game without swooping on Alistair! And then if the dialogue is the same I would be a crankyface.

Speaking of swooping on Alistair, I think I've found my favorite romance trigger. It comes when you ask him about "what changes after the Joining," and he says something like "When I asked Duncan that, he just looked at me and said 'You'll see.'" There's a dialogue option to say "Just try that line on me," at which point Alistair gets totally saucy and says "Oh, I can think of better lines for you." Then you can either shut him down or flirt back. I like that romance trigger because it actually lets Alistair make the first move.

[Jadiefever]

I'm just glad there's a "Skip The Fade" mod. I'm in the middle of broken circle now. Second floor of the tower, and I'm just using the console asoften as I can. I dunno what it is, but I just hate the whole thing. I guess maybe it's just boring. I've already done one tower at Ostagar. I dunno. Just bugs me.

[tuppence95]

Siduri wrote...

inclemency wrote...

It's always fun to hear about ways you've not played DA.  Even after all the characters I've played, it amazes me to find things still not done!

I have a question -- I've heard the HNF can declare herself Alistair's queen even if she's not romancing him. Has anyone done this? I'm really curious as to what the dialogue is like afterwards, but it would be soooo hard to go through almost the whole game without swooping on Alistair! And then if the dialogue is the same I would be a crankyface.

*snip

I did a political marriage ending just for testing for DahliaLynn.  It was interesting, and yes the dialog is a little different.  My warden and Alistair were best friends.  He thought the marriage idea was ok, but a little awkward.  He got a bit embarrassed  talking about the heir thing.

[Siduri]

tuppence95 wrote...

I did a political marriage ending just for testing for DahliaLynn.  It was interesting, and yes the dialog is a little different.  My warden and Alistair were best friends.  He thought the marriage idea was ok, but a little awkward.  He got a bit embarrassed  talking about the heir thing.

Okay, this I'm going to have to see.

Is it possible to trigger a romance during that conversation? I know it's late in the game and you probably wouldn't get all the romance scenes, but it seems like a sweet way for two characters to start falling in love.

[inclemency]

Siduri wrote...

inclemency wrote...

It's always fun to hear about ways you've not played DA.  Even after all the characters I've played, it amazes me to find things still not done!

I have a question -- I've heard the HNF can declare herself Alistair's queen even if she's not romancing him. Has anyone done this? I'm really curious as to what the dialogue is like afterwards, but it would be soooo hard to go through almost the whole game without swooping on Alistair! And then if the dialogue is the same I would be a crankyface.

Speaking of swooping on Alistair, I think I've found my favorite romance trigger. It comes when you ask him about "what changes after the Joining," and he says something like "When I asked Duncan that, he just looked at me and said 'You'll see.'" There's a dialogue option to say "Just try that line on me," at which point Alistair gets totally saucy and says "Oh, I can think of better lines for you." Then you can either shut him down or flirt back. I like that romance trigger because it actually lets Alistair make the first move.

Lol, I love that too, although it can be a bit different....''I have other lines for you, trust me' is my favourite. He sure doesn't sound so naive when he says that line!


HNF contemplating her father's portrait after taking back Highever Castle (too bad about all the crappy armour)

Modifié par inclemency, 24 septembre 2010 - 05:14 .

[tuppence95]

Lady Jess wrote...

I haven't played since yesterday morning. Even after a dozen playthroughs this game and it's writing can make me go "Damn you Alistair" and turn it off in a snit. I seriously got the lecture over Isolde, headed to Haven, fought Sten, and by the time that was over was so mad about him thinking blood mages were evil, and by that Jaina is evil I LITERALLY flipped him AND Sten off behind my screen and quit. I knew it was coming of course, but that didn't make it any less ...personal. Damn you Gaider!!

*snip

Aw, LadyJ.  Sorry you are having trouble.  That's interesting.  So he really does react to her being a blood mage.  My Dalish mage was having a hard enough time getting along with him without the blood magic issue.  I wonder if it's possible to have a happy ending with him that way?  My blood mage could care less what Alistair thinks.  He's more interested in Zev.  I thought it was fascinating though when Wynne confronted him about the mysterious spells he was using in the tower and Irving covered for him.

[inclemency]

Sounds like we're all having trouble with our mages. I just finished my latest mage game and there was trouble between Alistair and she. I ended up saving Loghein, marrying him to Anora and my mage did the US, which was NOT the ''go off to be grey wardens together' ending I had planned!

[tuppence95]

Siduri wrote...

tuppence95 wrote...

I did a political marriage ending just for testing for DahliaLynn.  It was interesting, and yes the dialog is a little different.  My warden and Alistair were best friends.  He thought the marriage idea was ok, but a little awkward.  He got a bit embarrassed  talking about the heir thing.

Okay, this I'm going to have to see.

Is it possible to trigger a romance during that conversation? I know it's late in the game and you probably wouldn't get all the romance scenes, but it seems like a sweet way for two characters to start falling in love.

I don't know.  The dialog took place during a couple conversations.  First was in that room with all our companions right after LM, and the second was at the end of the game right after the coronation.  I'm not sure if there were more dialog options during the final battle.  I zipped through those for this test.

That would be a really nice ending, if you could do it.  I cheated to get the political marriage ending by using console commands to reset the romance flag.  I might have to try again to see if that's possible. 

[tuppence95]

I'm definitely finally getting that Castle Cousland mod for my upcoming HNF playthrough!

[Lady Jess]

tuppence95 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

I haven't played since yesterday morning. Even after a dozen playthroughs this game and it's writing can make me go "Damn you Alistair" and turn it off in a snit. I seriously got the lecture over Isolde, headed to Haven, fought Sten, and by the time that was over was so mad about him thinking blood mages were evil, and by that Jaina is evil I LITERALLY flipped him AND Sten off behind my screen and quit. I knew it was coming of course, but that didn't make it any less ...personal. Damn you Gaider!!

*snip

Aw, LadyJ.  Sorry you are having trouble.  That's interesting.  So he really does react to her being a blood mage.  My Dalish mage was having a hard enough time getting along with him without the blood magic issue.  I wonder if it's possible to have a happy ending with him that way?  My blood mage could care less what Alistair thinks.  He's more interested in Zev.  I thought it was fascinating though when Wynne confronted him about the mysterious spells he was using in the tower and Irving covered for him.

It's not that he reacts to YOU using blood magic. He doesn't even notice that. If he did, and you could discuss it tht might actually HELP at this point. She uses it only when mana runs low or her life depends on it, and she's a spirit healer too.  It's just that while he's yelling about Isolde, he mentions blood magic and it being evil with such conviction, I can't seem to find the RP to move past that. To her right  now, he thinks SHE is evil. This is my second attempt to do this blood mage thing, and now both times I get stuck.  Her ending is supposed to be him marrying Anora to secure not only the throne, and stop the civil war with no threat from Mac Tirs in the future, but to secure THEIR relationship and keep Eamon out of the way. But...ugh stuck.

The Wynne concersation is awesome. I love how Irving basically tells her to STFU...lol

[Lady Jess]

tuppence95 wrote...

I'm definitely finally getting that Castle Cousland mod for my upcoming HNF playthrough!

I was thinking about it, if you get there first be sure to tell us how it goes.

[Giggles_Manically]

I like the convo with Irving as well.

For some reason he was just awsome there.

[Lady Jess]

inclemency wrote...

Sounds like we're all having trouble with our mages. I just finished my latest mage game and there was trouble between Alistair and she. I ended up saving Loghein, marrying him to Anora and my mage did the US, which was NOT the ''go off to be grey wardens together' ending I had planned!

Jaina is in the ruined temple between a rock and two hard places at the moment...


There Alistair, who she's been with since the tower, sweet, good looking, but round aboutly called her evil.

Then there's Zev, fun, exciting, also good looking, and no judgement.

Poor girl.

[Lady Jess]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I like the convo with Irving as well.
For some reason he was just awsome there.

Indeed. And also...Alistair just stands there while they discuss your blood magic.  No comments.

[Merilsell]

Addai had played a Dalish blood mage who did come around with him in the end and they ran off into the sunset together. Maybe she can help? Haven't played a BM yet, so I'm a bit on a loss here... o.O

[Giggles_Manically]

Merilsell wrote...

Addai had played a Dalish blood mage who did come around with him in the end and they ran off into the sunset together. Maybe she can help? Haven't played a BM yet, so I'm a bit on a loss here... o.O

There is a cut dialouge in the tower where Wynne calls you out on being a blood mage.
Then Irving just goes "Nah its all cool" and everyone goes K.

[Merilsell]

Yeah I know about that. I mean the justify a romance with Alistair when being a Blood mage part, actually. Addai did get it work, though I think the stories she has written about Idun's journey (great ones) helped a lot with it.

[Sarah1281]

So you guys don't think that if Alistair were aware that the Warden was a blood mage it would be a huge turnoff for him? Game mechanics allow him to date anything that is female and doesn't spare Loghain but you'd think that he would realistically have to take a stand somewhere and I think that, as an almost-templar, he wouldn't be able to deal with his gf's blood mage status.

[xXhayleyroxXx]

thanks for the welcome you lot! And omg so many gorgeous Alistair pics! I'm in love with this thread... and Alistair of course

[Lady Jess]

Sarah1281 wrote...

So you guys don't think that if Alistair were aware that the Warden was a blood mage it would be a huge turnoff for him? Game mechanics allow him to date anything that is female and doesn't spare Loghain but you'd think that he would realistically have to take a stand somewhere and I think that, as an almost-templar, he wouldn't be able to deal with his gf's blood mage status.

I'm pretty sure I said if we could discuss it with him it would be easier, and that yes I do hence my problem. There should have been an option during at least one of the "blood magic is evil!" moments he has (which are pretty frequent) to discuss it if you are one. I actually think given the oppurtunity, and your answers he'd be alright with it. Being that you are, in fact, a grey warden and it's common knowledge they don't care about blood magic. The joining itself is blood magic, in a way. So if you ARE a blood mage but only use it for GOOD (IE: being a grey warden, healing, self defense) he'd understand that.  It may involve a persuade check but it would be nice to have it.

[inclemency]

*waves hi to hayley*



Missed smut Thursday

[inclemency]

Lady Jess wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

So you guys don't think that if Alistair were aware that the Warden was a blood mage it would be a huge turnoff for him? Game mechanics allow him to date anything that is female and doesn't spare Loghain but you'd think that he would realistically have to take a stand somewhere and I think that, as an almost-templar, he wouldn't be able to deal with his gf's blood mage status.

I'm pretty sure I said if we could discuss it with him it would be easier, and that yes I do hence my problem. There should have been an option during at least one of the "blood magic is evil!" moments he has (which are pretty frequent) to discuss it if you are one. I actually think given the oppurtunity, and your answers he'd be alright with it. Being that you are, in fact, a grey warden and it's common knowledge they don't care about blood magic. The joining itself is blood magic, in a way. So if you ARE a blood mage but only use it for GOOD (IE: being a grey warden, healing, self defense) he'd understand that.  It may involve a persuade check but it would be nice to have it.

It's funny in a way, in your very first conversation with him in Ostagar he says that Grey Wardens do some pretty extreme things in their fight against Darkspawn.  Yet, he's pretty forthcoming giving his animidversions on the evils of blood magic in contradiction to the very thing he professed.  Was strange. 


Oops, meant to edit the post above, not double post  

Modifié par inclemency, 24 septembre 2010 - 05:59 .

[tuppence95]

Lady Jess wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

So you guys don't think that if Alistair were aware that the Warden was a blood mage it would be a huge turnoff for him? Game mechanics allow him to date anything that is female and doesn't spare Loghain but you'd think that he would realistically have to take a stand somewhere and I think that, as an almost-templar, he wouldn't be able to deal with his gf's blood mage status.

I'm pretty sure I said if we could discuss it with him it would be easier, and that yes I do hence my problem. There should have been an option during at least one of the "blood magic is evil!" moments he has (which are pretty frequent) to discuss it if you are one. I actually think given the oppurtunity, and your answers he'd be alright with it. Being that you are, in fact, a grey warden and it's common knowledge they don't care about blood magic. The joining itself is blood magic, in a way. So if you ARE a blood mage but only use it for GOOD (IE: being a grey warden, healing, self defense) he'd understand that.  It may involve a persuade check but it would be nice to have it.

I also think he'd eventually end up being okay with it, provided the warden blood mage didn't use it for mind control.  I think he could come to accept it when only used as a last resort to save them.  I don't think he'd ever be completely comfortable with it.  But yes, the joining is a form of blood magic.  Also Gaider said templars use a form of it too with the phylacteries.

But I don't think Alistair could ever come to accept a fellow warden who used blood magic as a weapon with all the mind control stuff.