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klarabella wrote...

*is tired*

Oh, don't look at me like THAT. It's not my fault I live on the wrong side of the planet and
 can't run on caffeine like Merilsell who probably sleeps like a bat...
:P


Post re-edited to near perfection.


Heh. I'm more the cappucino type actually. And yes I have too much spare time right now. :ph34r: New job is just beginning in the middle of october, so yeah. Gives me more time for the important things in life, I suppose. You know lurking in the forum, writing FF and all the nerdy stuff.

But I'm more the night person anyway, so the bat isn't too far from the stretch :P

Have an Alistair: (and a good night)

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

Loghain is awesome to me just for how well he can tell Wynne to STFU.


I think it's going to take a long time for me to get used to seeing Giggles in this form.  :huh:

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tuppence95 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Loghain is awesome to me just for how well he can tell Wynne to STFU.


I think it's going to take a long time for me to get used to seeing Giggles in this form.  :huh:

What?
Is there something on my face?

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Siduri wrote...

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The romance thing with the prince comment is a bit of a stretch, but the way I see it is that he's already starting to feel something for the FemWarden and that she's expressing interest in him really is the one good thing about his heritage.


Out of curiosity, how does he respond? I never liked the way that line sounded either (as if you DO only like him for his blood) so I never chose it.


Sorry for the delay, my body kind of went into comatose mode after a long work week.

His comment is quite cute when you use "Somehow I find that...thrilling."
"Ooh did I just find the one damn, decent thing about my birthright? I think I did." It's cute how he says it, but at the same time you feel bad because it's clear he's been curbstomped into believing he was more of a threat to his half-brother than anything else.

Edit: Peers at Giggles new image. Interesting. :whistle:

Modifié par Reika, 24 septembre 2010 - 11:39 .


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LadyDamodred wrote...

inclemency wrote...

I just did something I've never done before. I took the party to the entrance of Redcliffe before my PC was in any kind of relationship with Alistair. The conversation encompassed several separate conversations you have if you are in a relationship, or maybe if you are somewhere else, was strange. I got -6 out of the whole thing, too! lol Reload time.


Redcliffe is where I start the relationship on my HNF.  The whole "I wanted you to like me for me." and you respond with "I do like you and not for your blood."  I think it really fits for a noble and he's so pleasantly surprised.

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It really annoys me that that response isn't always available in that conversation. I guess it's not an option if the romance is already triggered, the best you get is "I understand". Posted Image

Modifié par Yankee23, 24 septembre 2010 - 11:57 .


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Reika wrote...

Siduri wrote...

Reika wrote...
The romance thing with the prince comment is a bit of a stretch, but the way I see it is that he's already starting to feel something for the FemWarden and that she's expressing interest in him really is the one good thing about his heritage.


Out of curiosity, how does he respond? I never liked the way that line sounded either (as if you DO only like him for his blood) so I never chose it.


Sorry for the delay, my body kind of went into comatose mode after a long work week.

His comment is quite cute when you use "Somehow I find that...thrilling."
"Ooh did I just find the one damn, decent thing about my birthright? I think I did." It's cute how he says it, but at the same time you feel bad because it's clear he's been curbstomped into believing he was more of a threat to his half-brother than anything else.

Edit: Peers at Giggles new image. Interesting. :whistle:

What? What is so interesting!

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Merilsell wrote...

Siduri wrote...

BUT it actually makes perfect sense to me that this is his line in the sand, the one thing he will never get over. I don't think suggesting Loghain kill the archdemon would make it a bit better for Alistair; to him it's an honor to give his life ending the archdemon, and he hates the thought of Loghain redeeming himself in that way.

I really don't think the Landsmeet scene is an artifact of game mechanics. I think in this case the game mechanics work they way they do in order to illustrate something about Alistair's character. He may be goofy and sweet but there's also a lot of damage there, and at the Landsmeet you really see Alistair's most broken side coming out. Loghain destroyed Alistair's surrogate family, and Alistair will never, ever deal with that well, no matter how politically or militarily expedient it would be. The best you can do is force him to live with it, but he'll never really forgive you for that. It is a relationship-killer, and I think it probably should be.


This.

Maker, I was about to write the same but you already have put it perfectly in words. Other than many people here, I love it that he tells you flat out no and nothing can convince him otherwise. I can totally understand the reasons for it, as wonderfully explained above. Also David Gaider said it is intended for him to react like that, it's not OCC for him, nor pure game mechanics. Will Alistair regret it later to have waltzed out like that? Hell sure he will. Will he forgive you for betraying his trust (which it is for him)? I don't see that happening without a long timespan in between, if ever.

This is how I see it, too. But I don't see it as evidence of him being 'broken', so much as that he has very strong opinons about right and wrong, even if he may not always feel free to express them. He sees sparing Loghain as so utterly wrong as to be unforgivable, and the fact that the PC--and the nobility--will go along with it makes him completely unable to work with any of them afterwards. He just wants out. He will absolutely regret doing that, because he's abandoning a duty that he feels equally strongly about, but at that moment? He can't do anything else. Combine that with what he sees as a total personal betrayal, and I don't see him ever forgiving it, myself. Of course, I think he finds it equally hard to forgive himself, which is why he ends up drinking heavily for years.

That's not to say that I don't think that the betrayal by the PC doesn't factor into that drinking. It's hard to live with a trust being broken so utterly--from his point of view, if not the PC's.

Edit: That's a fine looking PC, Giggles. She looks clever and lively.

Modifié par errant_knight, 25 septembre 2010 - 12:05 .


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Too bad she is Zevran's girl.

Alistair already got my City Elf and Elf mage, I have to share you know.

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

Too bad she is Zevran's girl.
Alistair already got my City Elf and Elf mage, I have to share you know.

See, I've never felt that way, so it's lucky for Zevran that both some do, and that he has devoted fans of his own. ;)

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errant_knight wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Too bad she is Zevran's girl.
Alistair already got my City Elf and Elf mage, I have to share you know.

See, I've never felt that way, so it's lucky for Zevran that both some do, and that he has devoted fans of his own. ;)

Presently I sit upon all fanbases.
Outside of Wynne I love all the companions!

Zevran fits her very well, like Alistair fit my city elf very well.
Its not about what I want to do in a run, its how I RP my PC that decides what goes on.
IF I did the former I would get rather bored.

Besides I lost my Zevran import when my last computer died.

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I just wanted to pop in here and add my name to looooooong list of Alistair lovers. Alistair was my first LI and although I did romance all the others, he's still my favorite (despite the fact that he dumped my first PC because she was an elf).
I've been through countless playthroughs with him as my LI but I recently tried to play a shem suspicious elf who would have nothing to do with him. I swear my heart hurt every time I had to choose a dialog option that would be sure *not* to rouse his interest. It got so bad, I finally gave up and started over with another elf (can you tell I like elves LOL) who played hard to get. It was the first time I'd taken that approach and I was wonderfully shocked (after nine months of playing) to have him reply to my "I'm not sure, it's too soon to tell" line with "Well, is it too soon for this?" followed by his wonderful kiss. I felt like a little kid in a candy store! :)
I've also just recently found a mod that's supposed to remove the race check during the LM and I can't wait to get there to see if it works.

Modifié par Tigress M, 25 septembre 2010 - 12:20 .


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Tigress M wrote...

I just wanted to pop in here and add my name to looooooong list of Alistair lovers. Alistair was my first LI and although I did romance all the others, he's still my favorite (despite the fact that he dumped my first PC because she was an elf).
I've been through countless playthroughs with him as my LI but I recently tried to play a shem suspicious elf who would have nothing to do with him. I swear my heart hurt every time I had to choose a dialog option that would be sure *not* to rouse his interest. It got so bad, I finally gave up and started over with another elf (can you tell I like elves LOL) who played hard to get. It was the first time I'd taken that approach and I was wonderfully shocked (after nine months of playing) to have him reply to my "I'm not sure, it's too soon to tell" line with "Well, is it too soon for this?" followed by his wonderful kiss. I felt like a little kid in a candy store! :)
I've also just recently found a mod that's supposed to remove the race check during the LM and I can't wait to get there to see if it works.

Heh, I've almost never beena ble to get that line, since I usually play Couslands, and as 'good' characters who aren't irreligious, even when not particularly devout. A handsome ex-templar suits them to a 'T.' Which I kind of regret sometimes, just because of that moment/line. Not only is it 'sweep you off your feet' romantic, but it's also the first sign you have that there's a really confident guy hiding inside Alistair.

Modifié par errant_knight, 25 septembre 2010 - 12:27 .


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errant_knight wrote...

Tigress M wrote...

I just wanted to pop in here and add my name to looooooong list of Alistair lovers. Alistair was my first LI and although I did romance all the others, he's still my favorite (despite the fact that he dumped my first PC because she was an elf).
I've been through countless playthroughs with him as my LI but I recently tried to play a shem suspicious elf who would have nothing to do with him. I swear my heart hurt every time I had to choose a dialog option that would be sure *not* to rouse his interest. It got so bad, I finally gave up and started over with another elf (can you tell I like elves LOL) who played hard to get. It was the first time I'd taken that approach and I was wonderfully shocked (after nine months of playing) to have him reply to my "I'm not sure, it's too soon to tell" line with "Well, is it too soon for this?" followed by his wonderful kiss. I felt like a little kid in a candy store! :)
I've also just recently found a mod that's supposed to remove the race check during the LM and I can't wait to get there to see if it works.

Heh, I've almost never beena ble to get that line, since I usually play Couslands, and as 'good' characters who aren't irreligious, even when not particularly devout. A handsome ex-templar suits them to a 'T.' Which I kind of regret sometimes, just because of that moment/line. Not only is it 'sweep you off your feet' romantic, but it's also the first sign you have that there's a really confident guy hiding inside Alistair.


Same here, but I also didn't know he swooped you if you said that, I was afraid it was a psuedo refusal. I will sometimes rp it as a flirty response, kinda  "mmm... I don't know. It's too soon to say" *raises eyebrow*. It can work in combination with the "miss the constant battles? Or miss you?" response and is completely in character for some of my HNFs.

#7439
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I liked it on my CE, and before the nutters come out screaming, yes I know what happens in the Origin.

She didnt hold it against humans, just Vaughan and CO, and it ended with their deaths.



When Alistair used it on me I was impressed but my CE was more, in the attitude of say knocking him the to ground and having her way with him.

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Well if FF.net ever cooperates, Jaina's speed bump will be cleared...now to just edit the screenshots.

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I'm going to have this hottie as my profile pic for a while

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rak72 wrote...

I'm going to have this hottie as my profile pic for a while
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Lol, nice one, Rak!  Are you taking smooches from us, as well?  :wub::devil::P

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I know there are some who hate The Deep Roads but you can split it apart in sections.

And when you see the Archdemon for the first time...it really is powerful.  B)

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inclemency wrote...

rak72 wrote...

I'm going to have this hottie as my profile pic for a while
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Lol, nice one, Rak!  Are you taking smooches from us, as well?  :wub::devil::P


Hey Inclemency, hope you feel better!

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Ok, We got past the hurdle...thanks for the "write it out suggestion" that did it!

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And the Alistair/Surana Ficlet it spawned

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Melca36 wrote...


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I know there are some who hate The Deep Roads but you can split it apart in sections.

And when you see the Archdemon for the first time...it really is powerful.  B)



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rak72 wrote...

inclemency wrote...

rak72 wrote...

I'm going to have this hottie as my profile pic for a while
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Lol, nice one, Rak!  Are you taking smooches from us, as well?  :wub::devil::P


Hey Inclemency, hope you feel better!


Thanks, Rak, I've been this way for months, now, so 30 more days or so won't be so hard.  I just can't wait to be fit again and get back to riding my horses!

That char doesn't have the cailan mouth, does he?

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inclemency wrote...

That char doesn't have the cailan mouth, does he?


No, thats my Alistair morph, I made him a cousland because I was running experiments with his character portrait.  I did make his lips fuller, and I think less wide also.

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Lady Jess wrote...

Ok, We got past the hurdle...thanks for the "write it out suggestion" that did it!
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And the Alistair/Surana Ficlet it spawned


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