Merilsell wrote...
Siduri wrote...
BUT it actually makes perfect sense to me that this is his line in the sand, the one thing he will never get over. I don't think suggesting Loghain kill the archdemon would make it a bit better for Alistair; to him it's an honor to give his life ending the archdemon, and he hates the thought of Loghain redeeming himself in that way.
I really don't think the Landsmeet scene is an artifact of game mechanics. I think in this case the game mechanics work they way they do in order to illustrate something about Alistair's character. He may be goofy and sweet but there's also a lot of damage there, and at the Landsmeet you really see Alistair's most broken side coming out. Loghain destroyed Alistair's surrogate family, and Alistair will never, ever deal with that well, no matter how politically or militarily expedient it would be. The best you can do is force him to live with it, but he'll never really forgive you for that. It is a relationship-killer, and I think it probably should be.
This.
Maker, I was about to write the same but you already have put it perfectly in words. Other than many people here, I love it that he tells you flat out no and nothing can convince him otherwise. I can totally understand the reasons for it, as wonderfully explained above. Also David Gaider said it is intended for him to react like that, it's not OCC for him, nor pure game mechanics. Will Alistair regret it later to have waltzed out like that? Hell sure he will. Will he forgive you for betraying his trust (which it is for him)? I don't see that happening without a long timespan in between, if ever.
This is how I see it, too. But I don't see it as evidence of him being 'broken', so much as that he has very strong opinons about right and wrong, even if he may not always feel free to express them. He sees sparing Loghain as so utterly wrong as to be unforgivable, and the fact that the PC--and the nobility--will go along with it makes him completely unable to work with any of them afterwards. He just wants out. He will absolutely regret doing that, because he's abandoning a duty that he feels equally strongly about, but at that moment? He can't do anything else. Combine that with what he sees as a total personal betrayal, and I don't see him ever forgiving it, myself. Of course, I think he finds it equally hard to forgive himself, which is why he ends up drinking heavily for years.
That's not to say that I don't think that the betrayal by the PC doesn't factor into that drinking. It's hard to live with a trust being broken so utterly--from his point of view, if not the PC's.
Edit: That's a fine looking PC, Giggles. She looks clever and lively.
Modifié par errant_knight, 25 septembre 2010 - 12:05 .