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[nos_astra]

Talking about robes, is there a possibility to get rid of the plastic look of most of the clothing in DAO?

Edit: Oh this crappy post has to be top?

Modifié par klarabella, 25 septembre 2010 - 08:29 .

[Maria13]

Siduri wrote...

Reika wrote...

Re the lamppost bit, that I freely admit I'm having fun with that option because Marlana did lick a lamppost in winter. A real lammpost, when she was 8 because Fergus dared her to do it. 

And yes, there is a very big difference in dynamic between an experienced person and inexperienced. I've RPed from both perspectives, just never had the inexperienced and inexperienced setup.

Well, at the risk of TMI, my first time in RL was with another virgin (on my 18th birthday!). We were in love, knew each other well, and had been building up to it slowly, but we still had no idea what we were doing. It was painful for me and I think a little distressing for him because of that, but we still both felt proud of ourselves afterwards, and it was definitely a very intimate bonding moment.

I think the thing to avoid in that kind of a fic is having it be OMG AMAZING AND PERFECT, because with two people who don't really know what they're doing, there's going to be awkward moments and they're not really going to know exactly how to get each other off, even if they are totally in love and totally thrilled with each other.

I'm not going to say anything but I agree with you Siduri

I think I reflected the awkwardness pretty well in my FF...

[Lady Jess]

Aeowyn wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Reika wrote...

I went for the polite and noncommittal answer to him. After all he is the son of her mother's best friend and Eleanor was annoyed enough as it is.

I've always ended up seducing one of them (usually Iona because Dairren was too...bleh) but do they ever get upfront enough you need to be noncommital? Since you're the Teyrn's son/daughter and they're either an elf servant or a lesser noble coming along to carry Bryce's stuff, it would really seem a bit out there for them to be propositioning you. Just don't hit on them and definitely don't invite them back to your room and they don't bring it up, right? 

They do talk about talking to you, or spending time with you later.
I cant do it anymore though, they most likely die but I felt so guilty watching Iona get killed that I have never done it since.

I honestly think they die so stupidely. They are awoken by a growling mabari and s/he says "I thought I heard yelling before but now I hear nothing." and then "I'm going to look outside." Naked. Shouldn't a growling dog and yelling be warning enough that something is amiss? Granted, they probably would've died anyway, but still. Just bugs me.

Considering it's Bann Loren's family, I no longer feel sorry for them considering what Bann Loren's men did to Erich (the RtO npc)

[Briiel]

klarabella wrote...

Talking about robes, is there a possibility to get rid of the plastic look of most of the clothing in DAO?

Edit: Oh this crappy post has to be top?

I am not sure on this but I know they are trying to make it look like rich fabrics(and failed). So I am curious also about mods. I am still trying to find good mage robes that say sexy but not "street corner" . I don't want my gal's running around in dental floss and bandaids. But alot of the armor is very manish otherwise. Except a tnt set I got that gives me a black and red leather corset and leather pants ,boots and gloves which looked nice on my raven haired rogue.

[Sarah1281]

Lady Jess wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Reika wrote...

I went for the polite and noncommittal answer to him. After all he is the son of her mother's best friend and Eleanor was annoyed enough as it is.

I've always ended up seducing one of them (usually Iona because Dairren was too...bleh) but do they ever get upfront enough you need to be noncommital? Since you're the Teyrn's son/daughter and they're either an elf servant or a lesser noble coming along to carry Bryce's stuff, it would really seem a bit out there for them to be propositioning you. Just don't hit on them and definitely don't invite them back to your room and they don't bring it up, right? 

They do talk about talking to you, or spending time with you later.
I cant do it anymore though, they most likely die but I felt so guilty watching Iona get killed that I have never done it since.

I honestly think they die so stupidely. They are awoken by a growling mabari and s/he says "I thought I heard yelling before but now I hear nothing." and then "I'm going to look outside." Naked. Shouldn't a growling dog and yelling be warning enough that something is amiss? Granted, they probably would've died anyway, but still. Just bugs me.

Considering it's Bann Loren's family, I no longer feel sorry for them considering what Bann Loren's men did to Erich (the RtO npc)

Bann Loren seems like kind of a monster since he's wiling to side with Loghain and Howe when Howe's the one who murdered his wife and son. I felt even more sorry for them upon making the connection. Out of curiousity, are you also the kind of person that hates Nathaniel for what a monster Howe was and has him killed? 

[Melca36]

Lady Jess wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Reika wrote...

I went for the polite and noncommittal answer to him. After all he is the son of her mother's best friend and Eleanor was annoyed enough as it is.

I've always ended up seducing one of them (usually Iona because Dairren was too...bleh) but do they ever get upfront enough you need to be noncommital? Since you're the Teyrn's son/daughter and they're either an elf servant or a lesser noble coming along to carry Bryce's stuff, it would really seem a bit out there for them to be propositioning you. Just don't hit on them and definitely don't invite them back to your room and they don't bring it up, right? 

They do talk about talking to you, or spending time with you later.
I cant do it anymore though, they most likely die but I felt so guilty watching Iona get killed that I have never done it since.

I honestly think they die so stupidely. They are awoken by a growling mabari and s/he says "I thought I heard yelling before but now I hear nothing." and then "I'm going to look outside." Naked. Shouldn't a growling dog and yelling be warning enough that something is amiss? Granted, they probably would've died anyway, but still. Just bugs me.

Considering it's Bann Loren's family, I no longer feel sorry for them considering what Bann Loren's men did to Erich (the RtO npc)

There was a reason Lady Landra was always a drunk Bann Loren made her life miserable. Thats how I roleplay it.

[Aeowyn]

Lady Jess wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Reika wrote...

I went for the polite and noncommittal answer to him. After all he is the son of her mother's best friend and Eleanor was annoyed enough as it is.

I've always ended up seducing one of them (usually Iona because Dairren was too...bleh) but do they ever get upfront enough you need to be noncommital? Since you're the Teyrn's son/daughter and they're either an elf servant or a lesser noble coming along to carry Bryce's stuff, it would really seem a bit out there for them to be propositioning you. Just don't hit on them and definitely don't invite them back to your room and they don't bring it up, right? 

They do talk about talking to you, or spending time with you later.
I cant do it anymore though, they most likely die but I felt so guilty watching Iona get killed that I have never done it since.

I honestly think they die so stupidely. They are awoken by a growling mabari and s/he says "I thought I heard yelling before but now I hear nothing." and then "I'm going to look outside." Naked. Shouldn't a growling dog and yelling be warning enough that something is amiss? Granted, they probably would've died anyway, but still. Just bugs me.

Considering it's Bann Loren's family, I no longer feel sorry for them considering what Bann Loren's men did to Erich (the RtO npc)

I serioulsy doubt he treated them well. I mean, his wife is an alcoholic pretty much and his son seems to not get along with his father at all. I think Bann Loren is an ass for that, even if you never meet him.

[inclemency]

Well, shoot. I went through Haven and the whole Urn quest, then back to the entrance of Redcliffe with +30 neutral Alistair to spark 'Interest' that way. It worked but I didn't get the line I was looking for, the one about not only liking him for his blood, or however that line reads. He did give me a line or two I hadn't heard yet, but I don't think I got any different choices for my PC.



Anyone know how to get that line from him?

[Lady Jess]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Bann Loren seems like kind of a monster since he's wiling to side with Loghain and Howe when Howe's the one who murdered his wife and son. I felt even more sorry for them upon making the connection. Out of curiousity, are you also the kind of person that hates Nathaniel for what a monster Howe was and has him killed? 

How on earth did you jump to kill someone because of what his father did from feeling less sorry for Lady Landra and Dairren. Honestly?  That's a pretty big jump Sarah. No, I've never had Nathaniel killed...at least not on my one Awakening playthrough.

[Reika]

[quote]Sarah1281 wrote...

[/quote] Bann Loren seems like kind of a monster since he's wiling to side with Loghain and Howe when Howe's the one who murdered his wife and son. I felt even more sorry for them upon making the connection. Out of curiousity, are you also the kind of person that hates Nathaniel for what a monster Howe was and has him killed? 
[/quote]

I just recently put the connection to myself about Liandra's husband and RtO, which gives me an even better character reason for my warden to be passing through that area.

I don't know about the other poster, but in my first playthrough, I seriously considered killing Nate. But I decided a better revenge upon a Howe was making him a Grey Warden. And figured I might be able to kill him later, besides he was out in the Free Marches during the entire war, so I figured he deserved the benefit of the doubt.

Ironically he became one of my favorite NPCs and a good friend to my Warden.

[Reika]

inclemency wrote...

Well, shoot. I went through Haven and the whole Urn quest, then back to the entrance of Redcliffe with +30 neutral Alistair to spark 'Interest' that way. It worked but I didn't get the line I was looking for, the one about not only liking him for his blood, or however that line reads. He did give me a line or two I hadn't heard yet, but I don't think I got any different choices for my PC.

Anyone know how to get that line from him?

It's after you find about him being Maric's bastard you have a dialogue option about the fact you're upset he didn't tell you about his past before this. Somewhere during that section you get the line. However if he's at interested it means the romance has already been initiated and you won't get that line.

[Aeowyn]

inclemency wrote...

Well, shoot. I went through Haven and the whole Urn quest, then back to the entrance of Redcliffe with +30 neutral Alistair to spark 'Interest' that way. It worked but I didn't get the line I was looking for, the one about not only liking him for his blood, or however that line reads. He did give me a line or two I hadn't heard yet, but I don't think I got any different choices for my PC.

Anyone know how to get that line from him?

You get that line when you start the "Why didn't you tell me about your heritage" conversation. He says "I just hoped you would like me for who I am" and that's when the option comes up. Hope that helps

[Sarah1281]

Lady Jess wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Bann Loren seems like kind of a monster since he's wiling to side with Loghain and Howe when Howe's the one who murdered his wife and son. I felt even more sorry for them upon making the connection. Out of curiousity, are you also the kind of person that hates Nathaniel for what a monster Howe was and has him killed? 

How on earth did you jump to kill someone because of what his father did from feeling less sorry for Lady Landra and Dairren. Honestly?  That's a pretty big jump Sarah. No, I've never had Nathaniel killed...at least not on my one Awakening playthrough.

I didn't make that jump. At all. You said that you stopped feeling sorry for them because of what their family member did. I asked if you also dislike Nathaniel for that. I did not say kill. You can hate Nathaniel and make him a Warden to punish him, you can hate him and let him go because his crime wasn't severe enough for execution, or you can hate him and have him killed. Nathaniels's father screws over HNs and CEs quite a lot and is definitely an enemy of all other Wardens. Since you held Bann Loren's acts against his family, that is how I made the jump to wondering if you held Howe's acts against his.

Seriously, why must 'hate' = 'kill'? 

[Lady Jess]

Reika wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...
 Bann Loren seems like kind of a monster since he's wiling to side with Loghain and Howe when Howe's the one who murdered his wife and son. I felt even more sorry for them upon making the connection. Out of curiousity, are you also the kind of person that hates Nathaniel for what a monster Howe was and has him killed? 

I just recently put the connection to myself about Liandra's husband and RtO, which gives me an even better character reason for my warden to be passing through that area.

I don't know about the other poster, but in my first playthrough, I seriously considered killing Nate. But I decided a better revenge upon a Howe was making him a Grey Warden. And figured I might be able to kill him later, besides he was out in the Free Marches during the entire war, so I figured he deserved the benefit of the doubt.

Ironically he became one of my favorite NPCs and a good friend to my Warden.

I haven't done awakening on a Cousland yet, I started, stalled, stopped, deleted, restarted. I finally just started a new Cousland.  But ya know, he DOES show up there with the intent to kill you, then changes his mind. And though I don't think I'd have him killed as a Cousland, I can understand why one would...less to do with his father's actions though, more to do with the S.O.B. wanting to kill her and her wardens.

[Lady Jess]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Bann Loren seems like kind of a monster since he's wiling to side with Loghain and Howe when Howe's the one who murdered his wife and son. I felt even more sorry for them upon making the connection. Out of curiousity, are you also the kind of person that hates Nathaniel for what a monster Howe was and has him killed? 

How on earth did you jump to kill someone because of what his father did from feeling less sorry for Lady Landra and Dairren. Honestly?  That's a pretty big jump Sarah. No, I've never had Nathaniel killed...at least not on my one Awakening playthrough.

I didn't make that jump. At all. You said that you stopped feeling sorry for them because of what their family member did. I asked if you also dislike Nathaniel for that. I did not say kill. You can hate Nathaniel and make him a Warden to punish him, you can hate him and let him go because his crime wasn't severe enough for execution, or you can hate him and have him killed. Nathaniels's father screws over HNs and CEs quite a lot and is definitely an enemy of all other Wardens. Since you held Bann Loren's acts against his family, that is how I made the jump to wondering if you held Howe's acts against his.

Seriously, why must 'hate' = 'kill'? 

Really? look up. you did say it:)

[Siduri]

inclemency wrote...

Well, shoot. I went through Haven and the whole Urn quest, then back to the entrance of Redcliffe with +30 neutral Alistair to spark 'Interest' that way. It worked but I didn't get the line I was looking for, the one about not only liking him for his blood, or however that line reads. He did give me a line or two I hadn't heard yet, but I don't think I got any different choices for my PC.

Anyone know how to get that line from him?

I think the conversation you want is actually triggered back in camp, after the Redcliffe convo. It starts with you asking him why he didn't tell you about his birthright sooner.

Edit: sorry, other posters already gave you this answer!

Modifié par Siduri, 25 septembre 2010 - 09:02 .

[Lanfaer01]

inclemency wrote...

Well, shoot. I went through Haven and the whole Urn quest, then back to the entrance of Redcliffe with +30 neutral Alistair to spark 'Interest' that way. It worked but I didn't get the line I was looking for, the one about not only liking him for his blood, or however that line reads. He did give me a line or two I hadn't heard yet, but I don't think I got any different choices for my PC.

Anyone know how to get that line from him?

You'll get this line when you talk to him about his birthright.

[inclemency]

Aeowyn wrote...

inclemency wrote...

Well, shoot. I went through Haven and the whole Urn quest, then back to the entrance of Redcliffe with +30 neutral Alistair to spark 'Interest' that way. It worked but I didn't get the line I was looking for, the one about not only liking him for his blood, or however that line reads. He did give me a line or two I hadn't heard yet, but I don't think I got any different choices for my PC.

Anyone know how to get that line from him?

You get that line when you start the "Why didn't you tell me about your heritage" conversation. He says "I just hoped you would like me for who I am" and that's when the option comes up. Hope that helps

Siduri wrote...

inclemency wrote...

*blah blah snip*

Anyone know how to get that line from him?

I
think the conversation you want is actually triggered back in camp,
after the Redcliffe convo. It starts with you asking him why he didn't
tell you about his birthright sooner.

Edit: sorry, other posters already gave you this answer!

Ahh okay, I thought it happened during the Redcliffe converstion...mystery solved, thank you, both of you! 

Edit: Thank you, too, Lanfaer

Modifié par inclemency, 25 septembre 2010 - 09:13 .

[LadyDamodred]

Ah, that was my bad. I always do it right after he tells me, in Redcliffe. The lighting is really nice and you can get some excellent screenies. My apologies for forgetting to make that clear.



The conversation goes:



AL: "I guess I should be thankful that Arl Eamon is far more likely to inherit the throne than I am. He's not royal blood, but he was Cailan's uncle... and more importantly is very popular."

AL: "For what it's worth, I'm sorry for not telling you sooner. I... I guess I was just hoping that you would like me for who I am. It was a dumb thing to do."



PC: "I do like you, and not because of your blood."



AL: "Oh, I... oh. You see, I didn't know that." (Scripting: Set: Alistair_Romance_Active)

[inclemency]

LadyDamodred wrote...

Ah, that was my bad. I always do it right after he tells me, in Redcliffe. The lighting is really nice and you can get some excellent screenies. My apologies for forgetting to make that clear.

The conversation goes:

AL: "I guess I should be thankful that Arl Eamon is far more likely to inherit the throne than I am. He's not royal blood, but he was Cailan's uncle... and more importantly is very popular."
AL: "For what it's worth, I'm sorry for not telling you sooner. I... I guess I was just hoping that you would like me for who I am. It was a dumb thing to do."

PC: "I do like you, and not because of your blood."

AL: "Oh, I... oh. You see, I didn't know that." (Scripting: Set: Alistair_Romance_Active)

Hmm, I had that conversation with him in the one at Redcliffe, it was incorporated into the whole Maric's son talk, but it only had the usual responses.  Looks like I need to re-do it and choose alternative responses, so it sparks later on...thanks!

Modifié par inclemency, 25 septembre 2010 - 09:30 .

[rak72]

I never made the Bann Loren connection, I need o pay more attention next time

[LadyDamodred]

This is the followng conversation, and I thought it should trigger after regardless of what you say during the initial conversation, but I could be wrong.

[Aeowyn]

Hm, doesn't Eleanor introduce Lady Landra as Bann Loren's wife?

[Russalka]

I am rather anal when it comes to roleplay, and I really want to make it so that entering Redcliffe is after gaining a few allies and story elements being done, so I can get some extra Alistair sweetness with a slow naturally progressing story and relationship. That all being one among other things of course for this playthrough. :innocent:

My problem is though WHY aren't I going to Redcliffe and the Tower right away? Because the messages about them and problems in there seem very urgent and if I know my Warden well, she would probably go there ASAP.
Something has to come in the way for her to perhaps go to Orzammar first. But what?

Modifié par Russalka, 25 septembre 2010 - 10:17 .

[MKDAWUSS]

Aeowyn wrote...

Hm, doesn't Eleanor introduce Lady Landra as Bann Loren's wife?

That she does.

Personally RTO contradicts so much of the main campaign IDK if much of it should be given any sort of credence at all.