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Giggles_Manically

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Zjarcal wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

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These ones are also quite distinguished...

http://www.dragonage...ile.php?id=1342


Gah, I thought the NORMAL mages gear was bad.


To be honest, I do like the "Sloth Demon robes" in that package, but with the option that covers the breast.

See I keep my mages in something that a person would actually wear.
Some mods out there, just NO.

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Modifié par Giggles_Manically, 26 septembre 2010 - 12:35 .


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Aeowyn

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Do you have the IRS mod installed Reika?

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Melca36 wrote...

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That's like saying all mages have to be blood mages, or all elves have to hate humans. Fairly silly. Just because the option is there, you don't have to use it. People don't do things they could do all the time. Personally, I don't feel that the family dynamic lends itself to being a skank, and have never played her that way. Doesn't mean that one couldn't play a black sheep with as much validity. I've never got a line about being 'experienced', so I'm guessing that happens when you bed your family's guests in your own home. Not very discreet at all.


I think that being experienced hardly qualifies one as being a skank or a black sheep. There is nothing in the dialogue you have with your immediate family that indicates that anyone besides Oriana finds your behavior even remotely questionable (Fergus seems to encourage it) and, from the banter about wenches, something tells me that the Couslands are fairly open minded about sexuality as the rest of Ferelden seems to be. 


Well, I think it's skanky to bed the guests in your family home, but I don't feel the need to justify my opinion. To each his (or her) own. ;)


Perhaps she's an individual that does NOT abide by tradition. Doesn't mean the character is a ****. But the beauty of this game is we can play it how we want. :)

*Shrugs* Or...it can. But thank God for options! It's good that all our wardens can be different.

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errant_knight wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

That's like saying all mages have to be blood mages, or all elves have to hate humans. Fairly silly. Just because the option is there, you don't have to use it. People don't do things they could do all the time. Personally, I don't feel that the family dynamic lends itself to being a skank, and have never played her that way. Doesn't mean that one couldn't play a black sheep with as much validity. I've never got a line about being 'experienced', so I'm guessing that happens when you bed your family's guests in your own home. Not very discreet at all.


I think that being experienced hardly qualifies one as being a skank or a black sheep. There is nothing in the dialogue you have with your immediate family that indicates that anyone besides Oriana finds your behavior even remotely questionable (Fergus seems to encourage it) and, from the banter about wenches, something tells me that the Couslands are fairly open minded about sexuality as the rest of Ferelden seems to be. 


Well, I think it's skanky to bed the guests in your family home, but I don't feel the need to justify my opinion. To each his (or her) own. ;)


Ok, I have to jump in here and respond to this.  I think that you offended a ton of people without realizing it.  Your view on sexual behavior may be very conservative, and that's fine.  I too, am also very sexualyl conservative.  However, I too believe "to each is own".  Therefore I think hey, if you want to sleep with a bunch of people, more power to you, have fun.  I am not judgemental towards people that have different viewpoints than me.

By calling someone a skank for "sleeping with a guest", or people who think its ok to "sleep with a guest", you may have just called several people on here a skank.  I'm not saying your views are wrong, I'm just saying try to be a bit more tactful beofre you speak.

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

See I keep my mages in something that a person would actually wear.
Some mods out there, just NO.


Well, this one doesn't seem that unreasonable:

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Zjarcal wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

See I keep my mages in something that a person would actually wear.
Some mods out there, just NO.


Well, this one doesn't seem that unreasonable:

Yes because a strapless dress is what you want to wear in combat, that can bunch up your legs, and with a good trip you suddenly can become indisposed. 

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Zjarcal wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

See I keep my mages in something that a person would actually wear.
Some mods out there, just NO.


Well, this one doesn't seem that unreasonable:
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Oh yeah, that one isnt too bad. Be nice if it were tintable, though.

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Do you have the IRS mod installed Reika?


Yes, I do. Didn't realize it did that, it's very well done because the additional options and his responses seemed like normal scripting.

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I finally caught some of the rest of Alistair's killing Loghein blow.... usually it's just the normal, hold up the sword, shot



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Zjarcal wrote...


Well, this one doesn't seem that unreasonable:

*sniparoonie*


Oh that does look nice!

Now if only there were caps and cowls that could go with that. The ones in the game are hideous. Image IPB

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

See I keep my mages in something that a person would actually wear.
Some mods out there, just NO.


Well, this one doesn't seem that unreasonable:

Yes because a strapless dress is what you want to wear in combat, that can bunch up your legs, and with a good trip you suddenly can become indisposed. 


True, true. But if we're talking aesthetics, it's reasonable. If we're talking practicality, not so much.

sorry, double post

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errant_knight wrote...

Well, I think it's skanky to bed the guests in your family home, but I don't feel the need to justify my opinion. To each his (or her) own. ;)


You do realize that winking after every post doesn't make you come across as being any less sanctimonious, right? All it really does is make me not want to come around or debate with you at all because I would prefer to engage in discussion with someone who can let their opinions stand on their own without falling back on passive aggressive emoties to convey your sense of how very wrong you find some of our game choices, interpretations and role-playing to be. 

@Mel <3

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

These ones are also quite distinguished...

http://www.dragonage...ile.php?id=1342

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Gah, I thought the NORMAL mages gear was bad.


yeah I had tried those out as well and well it just says "bandaids and dentalfloss" to me. Thats why I am wondering what people use . I saw the mord sith armor and I kind of like it but wasn't sure if others used it

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Mel_Redux wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

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errant_knight wrote...

That's like saying all mages have to be blood mages, or all elves have to hate humans. Fairly silly. Just because the option is there, you don't have to use it. People don't do things they could do all the time. Personally, I don't feel that the family dynamic lends itself to being a skank, and have never played her that way. Doesn't mean that one couldn't play a black sheep with as much validity. I've never got a line about being 'experienced', so I'm guessing that happens when you bed your family's guests in your own home. Not very discreet at all.


I think that being experienced hardly qualifies one as being a skank or a black sheep. There is nothing in the dialogue you have with your immediate family that indicates that anyone besides Oriana finds your behavior even remotely questionable (Fergus seems to encourage it) and, from the banter about wenches, something tells me that the Couslands are fairly open minded about sexuality as the rest of Ferelden seems to be. 


Well, I think it's skanky to bed the guests in your family home, but I don't feel the need to justify my opinion. To each his (or her) own. ;)


Ok, I have to jump in here and respond to this.  I think that you offended a ton of people without realizing it.  Your view on sexual behavior may be very conservative, and that's fine.  I too, am also very sexualyl conservative.  However, I too believe "to each is own".  Therefore I think hey, if you want to sleep with a bunch of people, more power to you, have fun.  I am not judgemental towards people that have different viewpoints than me.

By calling someone a skank for "sleeping with a guest", or people who think its ok to "sleep with a guest", you may have just called several people on here a skank.  I'm not saying your views are wrong, I'm just saying try to be a bit more tactful beofre you speak.

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Well, no one here is a medieval noble woman/noble man, so I thought the context was a given. But in case it wasn't, I was in no way applying modern sexual mores to Ferelden, but speaking to the fact that the Cousland's father is a Teyrn. One can choose how much one applies medieval attitudes to the game, and clearly there are some differences in that there doesn't seem to be the same kind of stigma on gay or bisexual relationships, but this is not the modern world, and I was discussing it in that light. My intent was not to comment on real world sexual practices.

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SurelyForth wrote...

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Well, I think it's skanky to bed the guests in your family home, but I don't feel the need to justify my opinion. To each his (or her) own. ;)


You do realize that winking after every post doesn't make you come across as being any less sanctimonious, right? All it really does is make me not want to come around or debate with you at all because I would prefer to engage in discussion with someone who can let their opinions stand on their own without falling back on passive aggressive emoties to convey your sense of how very wrong you find some of our game choices, interpretations and role-playing to be. 

@Mel <3

So you're just going with blatantly agressive? Okay. Go for it. Good thing you don't actually HAVE to talk to me then, huh?

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I've always gotten the feeling that a lot of nobles in the medieval times liked to sleep around. It might have been hushed, sure. It's not like the Chantry is some version of the Medieval Roman Catholic church where women were evil witches and sinful. The Chantry only seem to care about mages (now the fact that Templars and chantry sisters/brothers take their vows is another story.)

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So you're just going with blatantly agressive? Okay. Go for it. Good thing you don't actually HAVE to talk to me then, huh?


This is true, but I did want to try because sometimes I like to do more than post drive-by NBA's.

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Modifié par SurelyForth, 26 septembre 2010 - 12:58 .


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The Chantry has quite an open view on sex anyway.



Also its impossible to say: People in time frame A were like this trope from Time Frame D.

Sadly that dosent work since to you they may be slatty, to them however they would not be doing anything wrong.

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errant_knight wrote...

ell, no one here is a medieval noble woman/noble man, so I thought the context was a given. But in case it wasn't, I was in no way applying modern sexual mores to Ferelden, but speaking to the fact that the Cousland's father is a Teyrn. One can choose how much one applies medieval attitudes to the game, and clearly there are some differences in that there doesn't seem to be the same kind of stigma on gay or bisexual relationships, but this is not the modern world, and I was discussing it in that light. My intent was not to comment on real world sexual practices.


If that was your intent, so be it.  I agree, no one here is a medieval noble woman/man, therfore we don't know what *really* happened in those times.  I happen to belive that the nobles were constantly sleeping around, but it wasn't talked about so it wasn't recorded in history.  Not so different from modern times...humans are still human.

And, in that respect, Ferelden is not real medieval times.  So it is up to each individual player how to interpret the world.  So you essentially called anyone's character who "slept around" a skank.  Well guess what?  Maybe in *your* Ferelden they are a skank, but in "Jane's" Ferelden they are not a skank.  Each Ferelden is created by the player.  So you are calling many player's characters skanks, which could be offensive to that player.

And I am sorry, I have to agree with SurelyForth, ending your judgemental posts with a ";)" does not take any of the hurt or offensiveness away from that post.

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Aeowyn wrote...

I've always gotten the feeling that a lot of nobles in the medieval times liked to sleep around. It might have been hushed, sure. It's not like the Chantry is some version of the Medieval Roman Catholic church where women were evil witches and sinful. The Chantry only seem to care about mages (now the fact that Templars and chantry sisters/brothers take their vows is another story.)



Ohh. Good point. I always think of that being the Rennaissance though, not so much medieval time. There are books out there though, titled "Sex With Queens" and "Sex with Kings" documenting just how much of that has gone on throughout history. So I suppose it's really not that implausible.

edit: I laugh every time I see naked Alistair with the Thane Helmet. Like,  Alright you're completely nude, BUT you're wearing squiggly horns as your only protection?

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

The Chantry has quite an open view on sex anyway.

Also its impossible to say: People in time frame A were like this trope from Time Frame D.
Sadly that dosent work since to you they may be slatty, to them however they would not be doing anything wrong.

True. And different groups would have different standards--ie the circle as differing from the rest of society in forgoing marriage, apparently voluntarily. The main reason it was an issue with the nobility, and differed from men to women was sucession. Of course, Ferelden doesn't seem to be strictly patriarchal, but rather priority of birth, but that's not entirely clear.

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errant_knight wrote...

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Wynne talks about your experience? I never noticed that. At least on my mage this time, I told her first "what not worried about ME getting hurt??" and I was quite old enough to think for myself. It bugs me to see F!Cousland (great I'm typing it that way and still don't understand wtf it means) portrayed as some kind of ho. WTF is that about anyhow? Not only in games, but alot of fics too. I don't get it.  I agree her parents would have certainly raised her better. It's been too long since I played one, Elea is sitting in Lothering waiting for Jaina to hurry the heck up...lol


I'll have to dig out my save for the exact wording. But she makes this comment that the warden has more experience in such matters than Alistair. I was sitting there thinking, "That's one hell of an assumption."

I think the reason why so many people think the FemCousland is a ho because of the Sweet Dairren quest (which I haven't done on Marlana, but did do when I played vanilla Elissa) and one of his comments is that she has a "reputation" when invited to sleep with her.


Mine told Dairren to go soak his head...lol

That's like saying all mages have to be blood mages, or all elves have to hate humans. Fairly silly. Just because the option is there, you don't have to use it. People don't do things they could do all the time. Personally, I don't feel that the family dynamic lends itself to being a skank, and have never played her that way. Doesn't mean that one couldn't play a black sheep with as much validity. I've never got a line about being 'experienced', so I'm guessing that happens when you bed your family's guests in your own home. Not very discreet at all.


No, I'm not saying at ALL that they have to be. It's just that no other origin has the option of being ...well casual about sex. DNF option is in love with Gorim, Dalish, loves Tamlen, CE is getting married, the only one even close is the mage/cullen thing.  So why is the HNF option for romance a fling or a threesome?  It's the only one with the skank OPTION rather than a love/crush type thing. Alot of fics tend to make her out that way too, it's just lopsided that's all.  Elea is pure as the driven snow and Alistair will be her first, last, and only.

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Technically nobles had alot of freedom, but in Europe sex was more about the game and intriuge over just pleasure. Indeed people who engaged in sex just for fun were snubbed, not for being "****ty" but for being like a peasent. Peasent didnt have time for noble's games, or the learning for intriuge/seduction.

Sex to them was about either procreation or recreation. Nobles in the Medieval European setting tried to elevate it above such 'common levels". That's not to say that they didnt sleep around or use sex for enjoyment. However many were Catholics to boot and devoted ones, so sleeping around was not something that they considered. Films love to portray nobles as slime balls who sleep around, yet in fact many stayed faithful to a single spouse for their whole lives.

Its the exceptions to the rule that get popularized, but they are by no means the rule. To a noble sex was often a means to an end, or part of a game, it was not often the end in itself.
For a better reading on this pick up The History of the wife, or read the tale of Sir Ulrich von Liechtenstein


.. So how about that Alistair?

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Jadiefever wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...

I've always gotten the feeling that a lot of nobles in the medieval times liked to sleep around. It might have been hushed, sure. It's not like the Chantry is some version of the Medieval Roman Catholic church where women were evil witches and sinful. The Chantry only seem to care about mages (now the fact that Templars and chantry sisters/brothers take their vows is another story.)



Ohh. Good point. I always think of that being the Rennaissance though, not so much medieval time. There are books out there though, titled "Sex With Queens" and "Sex with Kings" documenting just how much of that has gone on throughout history. So I suppose it's really not that implausible.

edit: I laugh every time I see naked Alistair with the Thane Helmet. Like,  Alright you're completely nude, BUT you're wearing squiggly horns as your only protection?



He only needs the Thane Helmet as protection.  :wub:

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May we all change the subject now? I don't know what to, as yet...

But, I've found myself laughing myself silly playing my current game. I now have 2-second recharge on spells and set Morrigan to blast everyone with Walking bomb. That, combined with Deathblows has afforded me an absolute giggle-fest at the constant geysers of blood spewing everywhere.

I've played so many characters that anything 'new' is welcome, and this just is an absolute scream. Deathblows will get you a few geysers, but combine that with both the walking bomb spells and it is mind boggling.

Alistair is having a blast, as it seems he's the one always giving that last swipe of the sword to set it off..
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