Jadiefever wrote...
But, as it stands, Alistair admires experience.
Siduri wrote...
Jadiefever wrote...
But, as it stands, Alistair admires experience.
Yes, although he prefers some restraint, it seems: according to the wiki you get more approval for simply saying "Yes, I've licked a lamppost" than for saying "I've licked my share of lampposts and then some."
Not that he objects to a large number of lampposts, either! But he's happiest to hear about "just the one".
Lady Jess wrote...
*cries* I've reclaimed Castle Cousland. And show Alistair the bedroom...too bad we can't ya know, USE it.
While many people here like to pretend that DLC never happened, I'd like to point out that Morrigan's presence in the final fight meant that he probably did the DR. Good luck making sense of his motivations for just about everything in DSC.yo bro wrote...
I want to write a unique fan fic.
first off I'm a Lel fan, and my gf an Alistair fan. I played the dsc dlc and found out they were lovers. I was like, hellz yea, my bro didnt die a virgin. Anyway, I want to write a fan fic where they become lovers. i mean Leliana always teasing him, i think it will be funny. But the alistair thread would know more about this then me.
Persephone wrote...
That's lovely. Is that from the "Castle Cousland" Mod or part of something else?
errant_knight wrote...
Trying Temple of Vulak....holy crap! Have some good pics, but they're too spoilerific.
Would you reccomend it?Lady Jess wrote...
Persephone wrote...
That's lovely. Is that from the "Castle Cousland" Mod or part of something else?
Yeah it's the Castle Cousland mod. I killed everyone in sight and now have a castle to visit.
errant_knight wrote...
Would you reccomend it?Lady Jess wrote...
Persephone wrote...
That's lovely. Is that from the "Castle Cousland" Mod or part of something else?
Yeah it's the Castle Cousland mod. I killed everyone in sight and now have a castle to visit.
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Will do! Apparently it used to have a bug that stops you from ending the quest--don't know if it still does. I can't remamber exactly what it was--something about when you talk to the quest giver. I think you had to have killed everything there was to kill before talking to him, or it caused some kind of loop, but I could totally be wrong about that. Just a stray memory....Lady Jess wrote...
errant_knight wrote...
Would you reccomend it?Lady Jess wrote...
Persephone wrote...
That's lovely. Is that from the "Castle Cousland" Mod or part of something else?
Yeah it's the Castle Cousland mod. I killed everyone in sight and now have a castle to visit.
For a Cousland, to go back and see your home restored yes. But I have only just killed all the Howe mobs and visited rooms I haven't dived too deep. So far though just for RP, yeah I'd recommend it. Just...mute the sound and use subtitles, the Microsoft Same thing is odd. Hubby is playing a new HNM right now, and seeing stuff I haven't seen so...I'm about to start from scratch. GAH!!
That arrow is mighty disconcerting. Poor dear, indeed! You're using the blood mod, aren't you? Which level of goriness is that?PoisonTheCity wrote...
G'morning, Alistair thread! (Well, where I am anyway). My Cousland, Aveline, did a bit of traipsing through Ferelden with her favourite templar this morning.
They were ambushed by some bandits, and Alistair received an arrow to the head! The poor dear. No wonder he started babbling about lampposts later on.
*snip*
But that didn't seem to stop him from kicking ass with Zevran while Aveline hung back and enjoyed the view. (Wishing she'dremembered to unequipconvinced them that fighting without armour is more fun.)
*snip*
Later, Alistair saw Zev was getting a bit too friendly with his fellow Warden.
*snip
When he confronted her about it, she waved him off and took him to Wade's, where she promised he could have any sword he wanted. He didn't seem very interested in any of them, however.
But that mod does a really good job with it.
errant_knight wrote...
That arrow is mighty disconcerting. Poor dear, indeed! You're using the blood mod, aren't you? Which level of goriness is that?
I'm going to have to give that a try. I turned the blood off the first day because it seemed so odd. For one thing, it really stretched credibility that rats had that much blood in them.
Oh wow, once again the interesting discussions happen when I'm fast asleep.errant_knight wrote...
Well, no one here is a medieval noble woman/noble man, so I thought the context was a given. But in case it wasn't, I was in no way applying modern sexual mores to Ferelden, but speaking to the fact that the Cousland's father is a Teyrn. One can choose how much one applies medieval attitudes to the game, and clearly there are some differences in that there doesn't seem to be the same kind of stigma on gay or bisexual relationships, but this is not the modern world, and I was discussing it in that light. My intent was not to comment on real world sexual practices.
Modifié par klarabella, 26 septembre 2010 - 09:10 .
klarabella wrote...
Oh wow, once again the interesting discussions happen when I'm fast asleep.errant_knight wrote...
Well, no one here is a medieval noble woman/noble man, so I thought the context was a given. But in case it wasn't, I was in no way applying modern sexual mores to Ferelden, but speaking to the fact that the Cousland's father is a Teyrn. One can choose how much one applies medieval attitudes to the game, and clearly there are some differences in that there doesn't seem to be the same kind of stigma on gay or bisexual relationships, but this is not the modern world, and I was discussing it in that light. My intent was not to comment on real world sexual practices.
I saw many people felt offended by what errant_knight said and I can see why someone would get defensive of their PC. But alas, errant_knight has a certain perception of Thedas and it coincides with mine. (Did you know that Thedas is an acronym for The Dragon Age Setting?)
I do think a human noble with a reputation (as Dairren puts it) would be considered skanky. I like to pretend (or roleplay) that there are repercussions for a haphazard sex life. I always go with Oriana's view, if you must have lovers you should be discreet, because the Chantry and the people won't look kindly on your varying relationships. I always thought Fergus isn't taking you seriously.
It's of course up to interpretation. Many people prefer applying what feels like an outsiders view to me:
- the Chantry is ridiculous
- magic is common (lore says it's not, the game shows it is)
- apostates are cool rebels
- blood magic is nothing to be scared about
- gender equality and sexual freedom for everyone
- ignore the blatant racism towards elves and mages
It's almost forced on you by the game and it's fine. Why not?
My human noble is experienced, she's just discreet about it. If people knew she would be called a skank. She would never touch Zevran, though, because he's an elf and an assassin and a w.hore (in her eyes). She distrusts Morrigan because she's an apostate and maybe even a blood mage. She doesn't trust Sten because he's a sodding murderer. She dislikes Wynne because she is being criticized for her advances on Alistair (as the only available male of her age and because he's infuriating) but she trusts the older mage. She'd never make advances on Teagan because he's Lord Guerrin, the future Arl of Redcliffe. She's a hypocrite because she forgives Leliana's secret past and even encourages embracing it (basically because Leliana is pious and her friend by then).
She's my favourite character so far.
Modifié par Aeowyn, 26 septembre 2010 - 09:29 .
That's a valid POV, especially for a mage. But the Chantry is also insanely powerful and it wouldn't be if the majority of people wouldn't support them. If Alistair and Leliana are any indication the Chantry's influence is strong.Aeowyn wrote...
Well, 1. The Chantry IS ridiculous.
Being a wife and a mother certainly is part of your job as a woman. It might be easier to choose a life as a soldier or any other occupation in Ferelden but you would still be expected to give up your interests, marry and have children (unless you are rich and can pay a nurse). Andraste is probably a role model - prowess in battle, leader of armies, but she ends up being the Holy Bride of the Maker (something akin to the Holy Mother).Aeowyn wrote...
2. Is there something in game pointing to the fact that Ferelden ISN'T gender equal?
I just wanted to say that I can see where errant_knight is coming from.
Modifié par klarabella, 26 septembre 2010 - 10:00 .
Zjarcal wrote...
Siduri wrote...
Jadiefever wrote...
But, as it stands, Alistair admires experience.
Yes, although he prefers some restraint, it seems: according to the wiki you get more approval for simply saying "Yes, I've licked a lamppost" than for saying "I've licked my share of lampposts and then some."
Not that he objects to a large number of lampposts, either! But he's happiest to hear about "just the one".
The VO note for the "fair share of lampposts" line is "playfully scandalized". He does seem more comfortable if the PC isn't that experienced.
klarabella wrote...
That's a valid POV, especially for a mage. But the Chantry is also insanely powerful and it wouldn't be if the majority of people wouldn't support them. If Alistair and Leliana are any indication the Chantry's influence is strong.Aeowyn wrote...
Well, 1. The Chantry IS ridiculous.Being a wife and a mother certainly is part of your job as a woman. It might be easier to choose a life as a soldier or any other occupation in Ferelden but you would still be expected to give up your interests, marry and have children (unless you are rich and can pay a nurse). Andraste is probably a role model - prowess in battle, leader of armies, but she ends up being the Holy Bride of the Maker (something akin to the Holy Mother).Aeowyn wrote...
2. Is there something in game pointing to the fact that Ferelden ISN'T gender equal?
It's getting a bit off-topic.
Aeowyn wrote...
Well, 1. The Chantry IS ridiculous.
As a mage cannon I feel little love for the Chantry. Sure I understand that people need to believe in the Chantry and having seen the Black City (or is it?) every time she enters the Fade she knows that some of the Chant of Light might be true. However, the Chantry isn't exactly giving themselves a good name.
One example is that sister in Ostagar. If you kindly decline her offer of getting a blessing she says:
"Well begone then heathen. That the Grey Warden accepts the likes of you will forever be their weakness." (Maker's breath I wish there was an option to set her on fire or slap her when she said that WTF.)
2. Is there something in game pointing to the fact that Ferelden ISN'T gender equal? And note I said Ferelden,
And the whole sexual freedom discussion. I always see Oriana's opinions as something brought down from her Antivan upbringing. Now I don't know much of how Antivan women are treated, but it seems to be more strict for women.
Like I said before, it seems like the Chantry is more interested in mages and keeping them at bay, than to say how women are sin, that you need to be pure or whatnot. And again, not pointing out the vows that the Templars and the Chantry brothers/sisters need to take.
I mean let's say that being sexually hungry will create rumours and give your HFN a bad rep. What about the homosexuality that goes on in game? Wouldn't people NOT go visit Wade and Herren because they're don't want to be involved with sin like that. (ehm, I don't feel that way about homosexuals so don't take offence to my wording)
Modifié par Maria13, 26 septembre 2010 - 11:18 .
klarabella wrote...
My human noble is experienced, she's just discreet about it. If people knew she would be called a skank. She would never touch Zevran, though, because he's an elf and an assassin and a w.hore (in her eyes). She distrusts Morrigan because she's an apostate and maybe even a blood mage. She doesn't trust Sten because he's a sodding murderer. She dislikes Wynne because she is being criticized for her advances on Alistair (as the only available male of her age and because he's infuriating) but she trusts the older mage. She'd never make advances on Teagan because he's Lord Guerrin, the future Arl of Redcliffe. She's a hypocrite because she forgives Leliana's secret past and even encourages embracing it (basically because Leliana is pious and her friend by then).
She's my favourite character so far.
yo bro wrote...
I want to write a unique fan fic.
first off I'm a Lel fan, and my gf an Alistair fan. I played the dsc dlc and found out they were lovers. I was like, hellz yea, my bro didnt die a virgin. Anyway, I want to write a fan fic where they become lovers. i mean Leliana always teasing him, i think it will be funny. But the alistair thread would know more about this then me.
Lady Jess wrote...
It's still lopsided. Sure every origin can tell Alistair "only once" or "i've licked my share of lamposts and then some" but ONLY the HNF has the whole "act it out" in the origin itself. The rest are either a flirtation (mage), actual first love (Dwarf Noble Female and Dalish Female), impending Marriage (CEF) or single (Dwarf Commoner). Which is my complaint, I think it helps perpetuate the "looking down upon" attitude that many Cousland Fem players face on the boards. I've even read fics where the fic is about one race and paints the HNF as a tramp. And that's what bugs me. Each Origin is unique, and moving. The HNF the most in my opinion, so why did they NEEd to add that bit to it.
Modifié par Maria13, 26 septembre 2010 - 11:14 .
Maria13 wrote...
Lady Jess wrote...
It's still lopsided. Sure every origin can tell Alistair "only once" or "i've licked my share of lamposts and then some" but ONLY the HNF has the whole "act it out" in the origin itself. The rest are either a flirtation (mage), actual first love (Dwarf Noble Female and Dalish Female), impending Marriage (CEF) or single (Dwarf Commoner). Which is my complaint, I think it helps perpetuate the "looking down upon" attitude that many Cousland Fem players face on the boards. I've even read fics where the fic is about one race and paints the HNF as a tramp. And that's what bugs me. Each Origin is unique, and moving. The HNF the most in my opinion, so why did they NEEd to add that bit to it.
I can only speak of the origins I've played. CEF, DF, mage and HNF... I must say I liked the seduction bit in the HNF, but as for the other two, whose to say what the mage did and didn't get up to in the tower... Wynne and Anders say something about mages and physical activity, it seems that mages do have a different sexual morality to the general populance that on the most basic level is hardly surprising since most are confined for most of their lives like animals in a zoo and, apart from anything else, it must get BORING...
As for CEFit seems to me she wants to determine her own emotional destiny but that is not the same as saying that she hasn't had relationships... She might well have.
DF clearly loves Tamlen but he may not be her first or even her second, Dalish sexual morality is likely to be different to that of the other populations of Ferelden and I wouldn't be surprised if it emphasised reproduction...
Modifié par Lady Jess, 26 septembre 2010 - 11:19 .
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