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[errant_knight]

Oh, there is one thing.... He's less happy to give up the throne to Anora if hardened. He's a lot more clear on not wanting her to be queen. He won't get really mad, or anything, but while an unhardened Alistair is just relieved, a hardened one has some regrets about it.

Uh oh...top of the page and no new pictures....uh..... Okay, here's a rough draft of an illustration for my story:

Modifié par errant_knight, 18 août 2010 - 06:09 .

[Dave of Canada]

errant_knight wrote...

Oh, there is one thing.... He's less happy to give up the throne to Anora if hardened. He's a lot more clear on not wanting her to be queen. He won't get really mad, or anything, but while an unhardened Alistair is just relieved, a hardened one has some regrets about it.

I tend to make him king anyways. Does his reaction to the marriage change?

[errant_knight]

double post

Modifié par errant_knight, 18 août 2010 - 06:13 .

[errant_knight]

No, he always hates it. Hardened Alistair is a good king without Anora, though, so you don't have to go there. He doesn't have the Alienage uprising, either.

If you have him kill Loghain at the landsmeet, the whole thing is entirely awesome, when you're playing a male. The female romance version is a little messed up because they reused some unhardened Alistair dialogue to allow for the PC to make herself queen, so he appears to back pedel a bit. Not quite as awesome.

Modifié par errant_knight, 18 août 2010 - 06:16 .

[Sarah1281]

Dave of Canada wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

Oh, there is one thing.... He's less happy to give up the throne to Anora if hardened. He's a lot more clear on not wanting her to be queen. He won't get really mad, or anything, but while an unhardened Alistair is just relieved, a hardened one has some regrets about it.

I tend to make him king anyways. Does his reaction to the marriage change?

He's never happy about it as he doesn't like Anora but he goes from 'how could you do this to me!' to 'Well, I suppose it could be worse...' and trying to make the best of it. Hardened Alistair is determined not to ler her push him around. 

Also, if you should - for whatever reason - decide to do a playthrough where you spare Loghain hardening Alistair is the only way he won't leave the country.

[Dave of Canada]

I see. Thank you for the input.

errant_knight wrote...



No, he always hates it. Hardened Alistair is a good king without Anora, though, so you don't have to go there. He doesn't have the Alienage uprising, either.

What uprising? I never got this ending.

[LadyDamodred]

Sad Alistair is sad. ( ._.)

I always harden Alistair. I know some people prefer to leave him unhardened for some runs, but I prefer his more assertive self over some of the sweeter lines he says to a LI.

Edit:  Under Anora, the Alienage elves have an uprising, due to food/supplies, I think.  They don't under Alistair.

Modifié par LadyDamodred, 18 août 2010 - 06:20 .

[errant_knight]

cmessaz wrote...

Human noble scene, check!
(After Howe's death)

So how do you make entirely new animations? Do you do it in 3Dmax and export it?

[Addai]

Dave of Canada wrote...

I see. Thank you for the input.

errant_knight wrote...

No, he always hates it. Hardened Alistair is a good king without Anora, though, so you don't have to go there. He doesn't have the Alienage uprising, either.

What uprising? I never got this ending.

If you make Anora sole ruler, there are food riots in the alienage and she puts them down harshly.

[Addai]

cmessaz wrote...

Human noble scene, check!
(After Howe's death)

<3:crying:<3:crying:

Edit:  And... a back hug even... 

Modifié par Addai67, 18 août 2010 - 06:26 .

[Addai]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

I know it's probably been asked a lot of times but.. I might work on a new playthrough and I'm considering on hardening Alistair. Does his dialogue change at all? I tend to enjoy silly / funny Alistair over what I hear about hardened version.

This will be a on a male toon so no romancing.

It does not make him any less funny or innocent. It just makes him more confident in himself and if you're planning to make him King it's practically a necessity. He handles himself far better during the Landsmeet portion of the game when hardened and should you decide to go around committing evil deeds he has less of a problem with it than before/can be talked down easier.

So overall I lose nothing but gain everything?

Pretty much.  He's more assertive about the kingship when hardened, so if you want him to be a doormat for some reason, leave him unhardened.  He has some cute romance lines when unhardened, but I really don't see any advantage in it unless, as I said, you want to rule the country yourself either as his consort, chancellor, whatever.

[Addai]

errant_knight wrote...

Oh, there is one thing.... He's less happy to give up the throne to Anora if hardened. He's a lot more clear on not wanting her to be queen. He won't get really mad, or anything, but while an unhardened Alistair is just relieved, a hardened one has some regrets about it.

Uh oh...top of the page and no new pictures....uh..... Okay, here's a rough draft of an illustration for my story:

That's a nice one!  All you talented toolset people.  I took one look at it, read a few VO lines and haven't looked at it since.

[Dave of Canada]

I see, thank you a lot. I'll be trying hardened Alistair in my next playthrough if I ever come around to it. I was extremely fearful he'd become bitter and spiteful due to how the "hardening" process works.

[CalJones]

Addai67 wrote...
If you make Anora sole ruler, there are food riots in the alienage and she puts them down harshly.

Although she does some good stuff like establishing a university and boosting trade. It's all a matter of perspective.
After playing Awakening, I have some sympathy - first time I gave the rioting peasants food, and that came back to bite me in the ass in the epilogue. Second time I put down the riot with force and there was no bad epilogue from it. Ruling isn't easy - sometimes you just have to make the tough decision in order to ensure the future is better.

[errant_knight]

Dave of Canada wrote...

I see, thank you a lot. I'll be trying hardened Alistair in my next playthrough if I ever come around to it. I was extremely fearful he'd become bitter and spiteful due to how the "hardening" process works.

You don't have to worry about that. The only thing that makes him like that at all is sparing Loghain. He's his charming self whan hardened.

[errant_knight]

Addai67 wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

Oh, there is one thing.... He's less happy to give up the throne to Anora if hardened. He's a lot more clear on not wanting her to be queen. He won't get really mad, or anything, but while an unhardened Alistair is just relieved, a hardened one has some regrets about it.

Uh oh...top of the page and no new pictures....uh..... Okay, here's a rough draft of an illustration for my story:

That's a nice one!  All you talented toolset people.  I took one look at it, read a few VO lines and haven't looked at it since.

Thanks! I have to do something about that goblet, though. Silver just doesn't say 'sad life in a small town.'

[cmessaz]

Errant- I use existing animations in the toolset and just blend them till I get what I want. It's time consuming but strangely addicting.

Modifié par cmessaz, 18 août 2010 - 07:07 .

[errant_knight]

cmessaz wrote...

Errant- I use existing animations in the toolset and just blend them till I get what I want. It's time consuming but strangely addicting.

Heh, don't I know it. Spent the whole day doing that.

[Melca36]

cmessaz wrote...

Human noble scene, check!
(After Howe's death)

HOLY MAKER!!! 

Words cannot describe how much I LOVE this.

[phaonica]

cmessaz wrote...

Human noble scene, check!
(After Howe's death)

That looks really sweet and awesome. 

[sabreene]

:wub::wub::O:O:O:O:o:crying:[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/heart.png[/smilie][smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/heart.png[/smilie][smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/heart.png[/smilie]<3

That's about all I have to say about your new scene.

Except for :wizard::wizard: you're awesome!

[KnightofPhoenix]

CalJones wrote...

Addai67 wrote...
If you make Anora sole ruler, there are food riots in the alienage and she puts them down harshly.

Although she does some good stuff like establishing a university and boosting trade. It's all a matter of perspective.
After playing Awakening, I have some sympathy - first time I gave the rioting peasants food, and that came back to bite me in the ass in the epilogue. Second time I put down the riot with force and there was no bad epilogue from it. Ruling isn't easy - sometimes you just have to make the tough decision in order to ensure the future is better.

I count what Anora did to the uprising as a positive point. A ruler needs to know how to bring people in line, by force if necessary. Though I would have preferred her using more intimidation and less violence.

[LadyDamodred]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

CalJones wrote...

Addai67 wrote...
If you make Anora sole ruler, there are food riots in the alienage and she puts them down harshly.

Although she does some good stuff like establishing a university and boosting trade. It's all a matter of perspective.
After playing Awakening, I have some sympathy - first time I gave the rioting peasants food, and that came back to bite me in the ass in the epilogue. Second time I put down the riot with force and there was no bad epilogue from it. Ruling isn't easy - sometimes you just have to make the tough decision in order to ensure the future is better.

I count what Anora did to the uprising as a positive point. A ruler needs to know how to bring people in line, by force if necessary. Though I would have preferred her using more intimidation and less violence.

I think the commentary is more that the riot happens under Anora, but not at all under Alistair.

And because I missed RDT, here's my favorite:

[nos_astra]

LadyDamodred wrote...
I think the commentary is more that the riot happens under Anora, but not at all under Alistair.

This implies that either the famine or the riots were preventable or maybe even caused by Anora's actions.

[KnightofPhoenix]

I am aware of that.