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Morwen Eledhwen

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What may even be worse for me than the Orzammar quest is that it tends to be the last thing I do before Landsmeet, so by the time I'm done with it I'm all "OMFG, THANK THE MAKER THAT'S OUT OF THE WAY. Get me to this Landsmeet, let me throw down with Loghain and let's get this Blight-ending show on the road!" But NOOOOOOO. . .there's *more* political crap to go through, and intrigues to be plotted, and other peoples' intrigues to be discovered, and OH FOR DOG'S SWEET SAKE CAN WE JUST GET ON WITH IT. If I haven't already, I really start to bond with Sten and Shale at that point. I want to crush heads and scream in Qunari.

Edit: Aaggh, ToP. . .Sorry, Tuppence, I had to steal this from you. Hope you don't mind. :kissing:


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Modifié par Morwen Eledhwen, 16 octobre 2010 - 06:15 .


#12327
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Lady Jess wrote...

rofls! saw this in my dev watch at DA. (right click view image to enlarge)

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By Fukari


Gosh, I nearly fell off my chair laughing! This is IT!  :D:D

Thanks Lady Jess, all that Orzammar talk had me depressed. -.- It's not so much the quests, but the magnitude of the whole damn city and the fact that you have to absolve a couple of marathon runs to simply GET anywhere that's so frustrating...

Modifié par Caladhiel, 16 octobre 2010 - 06:07 .


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Lady Jess wrote...
To anvil or not to Anvil?
A: Kill Branka and destroy the anvil
B: Kill Caradin and Spare Anvil
C: Kill Caridin, convince Branka to destroy the anvil and commit suicide.


Fixed.

#12329
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Lady Jess wrote...

I am seriously ready for a skip orzammar mod. Give me a multiple choice script

Choose Your King:
A: Bhelen
B: Harrowmont

Recruit Oghren:
A: Yes
B: No

To anvil or not to Anvil?
A: Kill Branka and destroy the anvil
B: Kill Caradin and Spare Anvil

The End.


Before he vanished, Grumpy said someone was working on a Skip Deep Roads mod.  But that would only take care of half the problem.  When I'm feeling my worst Orzammar hatred, I even sometimes choose not to side with Bhelen, not for any rp reasons, but because he makes me go into the Deep Roads an extra time.  And I WISH I could use metagaming to dig my way into Jarvia's headquarters from that shop, so I could avoid the rest of that long quest.

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It's funny, I had no problems writing up the Orzammar politics thing, only because writing it up can be more interesting, I'm stuck at writing up about going from Ortan Thaig to the Dead Trenches and I'm not sure why.



I like the idea of skipping Orzammar mod, for my gameplay I like playing through some of the Deep Roads, but not the garbage leading up to it.

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I'd have to agree with Reika, I find Orzammar itself even *more* tedious than the Deep Roads. All this running to and fro for petty Dwarven backstabbing politics is so absolutely and abysmally frustrating! And the city itself is so boring and... long! Every area is made up of an eternally long corridor, just to give you the pleasure of having to run to the end and back every single time -.-

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Modifié par Caladhiel, 16 octobre 2010 - 06:20 .


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Lady Jess wrote...

Morwen Eledhwen wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Tis hard to post when every single character I have is stuck in Dwarf Hell Central. God I HATE the whole Orzammar treaty so very much.


Right? I don't mind the Dead Trenches and the Anvil of the Void because at least the story is good, and the whole Deep Roads experience gets me a TON of cash and XP and it's basically like steroids for your characters, because once they come out of there they can pretty much take on anything, but the politics and infighting crap is just :pinched:. And each house says they can't send troops because then the other house will take over. Hey, how about this --how about you send me ALL of your troops from ALL of your houses and then no one has an unfair advantage? Plus, your political dispute is bound to be less bloody that way, what with a great number of your warriors getting killed on the surface. Sound like a plan? Yes? :o

No? :?

*sigh* Fine then. . .off to the Deep Roads I go. . .<_<


I am seriously ready for a skip orzammar mod. Give me a multiple choice script

Choose Your King:
A: Bhelen
B: Harrowmont

Recruit Oghren:
A: Yes
B: No

To anvil or not to Anvil?
A: Kill Branka and destroy the anvil
B: Kill Caradin and Spare Anvil

The End.


*wants also*:pinched:

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sylvanaerie wrote...

I realize it's a little off topic but I just had to share my daughter's talent with you guys. She loves dragons and we just got the "How to Train Your Dragon" dvd this afternoon. This is the character, "Toothless" from the movie.
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*snip


That's a very cute drawing.  :happy:

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Caladhiel wrote...

I'd have to agree with Reika, I find Orzammar itself even *more* tedious than the Deep Roads. All this running to and fro for petty Dwarven backstabbing politics is so absolutely and abysmally frustrating! And the city itself is so boring and... long! Every area is made up of an eternally long corridor, just to give you the pleasure of having to run to the end and back every single time -.-

Yep, love the Deep Roads, not so keen on Orzammar, itself. Still, I find it, and all the quests, important from a characterization point of view.

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Morwen Eledhwen wrote...
What may even be worse for me than the Orzammar quest is that it tends to be the last thing I do before Landsmeet, so by the time I'm done with it I'm all "OMFG, THANK THE MAKER THAT'S OUT OF THE WAY. Get me to this Landsmeet, let me throw down with Loghain and let's get this Blight-ending show on the road!" But NOOOOOOO. . .there's *more* political crap to go through, and intrigues to be plotted, and other peoples' intrigues to be discovered, and OH FOR DOG'S SWEET SAKE CAN WE JUST GET ON WITH IT. If I haven't already, I really start to bond with Sten and Shale at that point. I want to crush heads and scream in Qunari.

Hihihihihihi. :devil:
For some odd reason I have developed the bad habit to start DAO with the console enabled.

Every time I get bored in combat:
^
runscript killallhostiles

         15XP      15XP  15XP       15XP
 15XP  15XP  30XP 15XP    15XP       15XP
   15XP  15XP       15XP 15XP  15XP
 15XP   15XP      30XP  15XP       15XP
      15XP   15XP     15XP  15XP   15XP

:wizard:

Alistair: We work well together.

Doesn't make it any less boring but saves tons of time.

Modifié par klarabella, 16 octobre 2010 - 06:22 .


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I hate Orzammar from beginning to end. The whole thing is tedious and time gulping and a royal pain in the arse. I'd be just as happy to tell them to sod their treaty, sod their mothers, and let the darkspawn have it.

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At this point I just wish the game would play itself, only bothering me when it comes time to make a choice xD

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I have found that the Deep Roads gets better if you're not too meticulous about going through every nook and cranny of every area all at once. I did that on my first playthrough and while it did have the excitement of not knowing what was going to come next, every time I got to a new path or a new cave or was told that there was yet another thaig to get through I was like ~~ fml, really? ~~. In my next playthrough, I just went as far through each thaig as I needed to go to get to the next stage of the Anvil quest and left the rest for later. I did eventually go back and clean out the rest of the Deep Roads but, broken up into pre-  and post- Landsmeet stages like that, it helped a lot.

Unfortunately there's not much you can skip about the Orzammar-proper part of it.

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yukidama wrote...

At this point I just wish the game would play itself, only bothering me when it comes time to make a choice xD


That would work. I'm so annoyed that I have to play through all these characters again. Stupid backup when my video card died caused some of my files to vanish. Including my savegames.

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Happy Saturday morning, Alistairians!



So I'm doing Witch Hunt with my Princess-Consort now. Here I am, skipping through the Circle Tower and looting every chest in sight, singing "Taxes! Time to pay your taxes!"



Oh, I amuse myself. Seriously though, I kind of miss the old Bioware games where people would actually react poorly if you stole all their stuff. I should do a strict RP playthrough where I only loot from darkspawn.

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Orzammar is easily my favorite treaty quest. But that shouldn't come off as a big surprise.

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What's frustrating about Orzammar itself is how utterly pointless it is. I suppose you need someone to tell you where Carridin's Cross is, but really there doesn't seem to be a good reason why you couldn't just join up with Oghren and find Branka.



At least the pre-Landsmeet stuff actually helps at the Landsmeet. Even if in practice it seems to come down to whether you've got Anora's support or not.

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errant_knight wrote...

Caladhiel wrote...

I'd have to agree with Reika, I find Orzammar itself even *more* tedious than the Deep Roads. All this running to and fro for petty Dwarven backstabbing politics is so absolutely and abysmally frustrating! And the city itself is so boring and... long! Every area is made up of an eternally long corridor, just to give you the pleasure of having to run to the end and back every single time -.-

Yep, love the Deep Roads, not so keen on Orzammar, itself. Still, I find it, and all the quests, important from a characterization point of view.


My very first thought of Orzammar in my first playthrough, "Wow, what a cheap knockoff of Ironforge."

Second thought, "Effing running around with no mount."

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Thinking about it, I don't really care for any of the quests. Really, if it weren't for the characters I'd find Dragon Age to be utterly boring >.>

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yukidama wrote...

Thinking about it, I don't really care for any of the treaty quests. Really, if it weren't for the characters I'd find Dragon Age to be utterly boring >.>


I actually enjoyed the mage tower, except for the Fade, and Redcliffe, also loved the Sacred Ashes quest.

Didn't like Orzammar, and the dalish were irritating.

I had fun with the Landsmeet, it was a bit more interesting with the politics because you had more than just 2 choices.

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yukidama wrote...

Thinking about it, I don't really care for any of the treaty quests. Really, if it weren't for the characters I'd find Dragon Age to be utterly boring >.>


The Dalish quest is interesting, I think, but its interest does involve the characters. My actions, thoughts and feelings in the 3 times I've done that quest have varied quite a bit depending on both my Warden's origin and the characters I happen to have with me at the time. And I find the Dead Trenches and Anvil of the Void parts of Orzammar intensely creepy, interesting, challenging and fun. It's just all the other stuff you have to go through to get there.

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Reika wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Thinking about it, I don't really care for any of the treaty quests. Really, if it weren't for the characters I'd find Dragon Age to be utterly boring >.>


I actually enjoyed the mage tower, except for the Fade, and Redcliffe, also loved the Sacred Ashes quest.

Didn't like Orzammar, and the dalish were irritating.

I had fun with the Landsmeet, it was a bit more interesting with the politics because you had more than just 2 choices.


Our tastes seem to be very similar :D
As I said, it's not so much the Orzammar quests that bug me, it's the endless running around. And the Dalish are irritating (I once talked to Sarel before completing the quests - I was in such a rage after that conversation that I actually considered siding with the Werewolves. Was too much of a chicken to see it through, though -.-)

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Sarel is an ass but it's not difficult to see why elves have a complex about such things, especially the Dalish.



The story and choices and writing themselves are interesting, but the actual fighting and doing the quests I find boring as all get out. The first and second times it wasn't so bad since it was new and shiny, but afterward it just feels like busywork to me, where I am only playing so I can have save files to import (even before DA2 was announced).

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If the Carta quest was deleted, Orzammar wouldn't really be that bad. It's that bloody Carta quest that makes the whole place dead boring, the other stuff can be dealt with fairly quickly.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Orzammar is easily my favorite treaty quest. But that shouldn't come off as a big surprise.


I think you just like to do the opposite of everyone else ;):o