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[Zjarcal]

Esbatty wrote...

I just gotta say its not fair all the topless alistair screenies and fanart and yet I can't do the same, or the inverse, for the Morrigan thread. Thats right, Bottomless.

But I did post a nekkid Morrigan for you in the Loghain thread! 

And don't click here. It is NOT a naked picture of Morrigan... 

[inclemency]

Merilsell wrote...

Ouch, sounds nasty somehow. Good you having enough to read for this case. All the best

Nah, just the last repairs needed to get me up and about once again.  I don't know if you know what happened to me... I had a riding accident,  my horse fell at a water jump and landed on me. We were going over 20mph at the time so there was a fair bit of damage from that, plus the broken and splintered wooden rails.  Hey, you play, sometimes you pay, and this won't stop me from riding again once I'm all healed 

[Lady Jess]

phaonica wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

inclemency wrote...

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/20/index/5073658/3

Shratty's Loghein is on that page, he's pretty hot.

Oooh... uhhh... I lost my train of thought... oh there it is.  Yowza!

The Loghain fan thread wouldn't like it, prolly.  A lot of them complained about tmp's mod that gave him a few hours sleep.  But it works very well as a young Loghain.  *sizzle*

Schratty's Loghain is a good looking guy, but he's just not the Loghain I fell in  with. Though Loghain is lookin' pretty good in the pic Lady Jess posted earlier and I think she said that was tmp's morph. 

Yeah, same here (though I fell in hate first:P). Same goes for alot of Alistair morphs. I have scruffistair in mine. And I have my own Zev morph (not that you can tell outside the earring), Morrigan is Vanilla, and Leliana is TMP's. I stick pretty close to the originals. But Her Loghain does look good.

[Esbatty]

Zjarcal wrote...

Esbatty wrote...

I just gotta say its not fair all the topless alistair screenies and fanart and yet I can't do the same, or the inverse, for the Morrigan thread. Thats right, Bottomless.

But I did post a nekkid Morrigan for you in the Loghain thread! 

And don't click here. It is NOT a naked picture of Morrigan... 

That you did... Loghain and I have very similar legs. A fact I never needed to know. Damn you Z!

...

She is so - wispy. Mmm.

[Addai]

Esbatty wrote...

I just gotta say its not fair all the topless alistair screenies and fanart and yet I can't do the same, or the inverse, for the Morrigan thread. Thats right, Bottomless.

Once upon a time I tried to turn that into a gush thread and they were having none of it.  They wanted to be all intellectual and stuff.

[mellifera]

Lol, some group shots... sideboob at a bit of a distance will have to do!

[Zjarcal]

Addai67 wrote...

Esbatty wrote...

I just gotta say its not fair all the topless alistair screenies and fanart and yet I can't do the same, or the inverse, for the Morrigan thread. Thats right, Bottomless.

Once upon a time I tried to turn that into a gush thread and they were having none of it.  They wanted to be all intellectual and stuff.

For the record, I think I contributed to your efforts (posting some nekkid Loghain fan art). I'm not good at intellectual debates so a gush thread would've been better for me. 

[Zjarcal]

Esbatty wrote...
That you did... Loghain and I have very similar legs. A fact I never needed to know. Damn you Z!

...

She is so - wispy. Mmm.

I wonder why you were staring at Loghain's hairy legs instead of the hot naked witch... 

Hmm, I'm browsing my nekkid Morrigan pics and I only have F!Warden/Morri pics or Leli/Morri pics. I'm not sure you'd want to see those.

[Shanara Windwalker]

Okay, so seriously, that "other" thread aside....is he really whiny? He's lost someone who he feels was the first person to ever care about what he thinks and he's feeling guilty. And, as a mother and daughter, I know how powerful guilt is. And even though he admits he would have been dead too if he had been on the battlefield, still there is always the what if.

Yes, as a HN you've seen the slaughter of your family. But, you've had a wonderful home life (at least that's the impression I get.... gah... I love the Couslands). Alistair has not.

2:00a.m. not sure I'm expressing this right, but after playing through this again, I don't find him whiny, but just trying to deal with the guilt he's feeling about not being there to help Duncan. And yes...selfish... but aren't we all to some degree?

And that is part of why I so enjoy Alistair. He's very human despite being a member of this legendary group.

*edited to correct glaring grammer*

Modifié par Shanara Windwalker, 06 novembre 2010 - 06:33 .

[Zjarcal]

@Shanara

I'm not an Alistair fan and I don't find him whiny either. I understand why he grieves over Duncan. Just because the HN's loss has been greater, it doesn't make his loss any less worth of grieving for. 

I do wish the dialogue options allowed for the player to remind him of their loss during some conversations. There is one in particular that I can't remember properly. He is fondly remembering getting drunk with Duncan I think, and then he starts to fall apart. The nicest dialogue choice was "I'm sorry, this must be hard for you". I wish there had been one like "I'm sorry, I know what losing those you love the most feels like" or something like that.

And to be honest, I wasn't offended by him asking if I had "lost anyone important" when playing a HN. I mean, you had barely met and it's not like everyone in Ostagar was talking about the Cousland massacre, so I think it's fair to say he just didn't know (or forgot).

Modifié par Zjarcal, 06 novembre 2010 - 06:37 .

[Lady Jess]

Shanara Windwalker wrote...

Okay, so seriously, that "other" thread aside....is he really whiny? He's lost someone who he feels was the first person to ever to care about what he thinks and he's feeling guilty. And, as a mother and daughter, I know how powerful guilt is. And even though he admits he would have been dead too, still there is always the what if.

Yes, as a HN you've seen the slaughter of your family. But, you've had a wonderful home life (at least that's the impression I get.... gah... I love the Couslands). Alistair has not.

2:00a.m. not sure I'm expressing this right, but after playing through this again, I don't find him whiny, but just trying to deal with the guilt he's feeling about not being there to help Duncan. And yes...selfish... but aren't we all to some degree?

And that is part of why I so enjoy Alistair. He's very human despite being a member of this legendary group.

He has survivor's guilt, no doubt. I think that's more his issue than the father figure issue. My husband came home with it. Never mind that in a year, he lost ONE of his soldiers, and whether he admits it or not, there is self blame and guilt there.  It's the same thing "maybe if I'd been there". And it was an 1800 pound bomb instead of an ogre.

I never thought he was whiny. Though on my first game I thought alot of "WHY is this guy following me EVERYWHERE???"...lol I didn't realize I'd get a party, or that he'd always be there. Friends had a good laugh at me for that.

[Merilsell]

Addai67 wrote...

Esbatty wrote...

I just gotta say its not fair all the topless alistair screenies and fanart and yet I can't do the same, or the inverse, for the Morrigan thread. Thats right, Bottomless.

Once upon a time I tried to turn that into a gush thread and they were having none of it.  They wanted to be all intellectual and stuff.

Tis a pity, really

And inclemency I heard about your accident. I'm glad for you everything worked out so well after that, could have been much worse concerning a horse fell on you I have a darn lot of respect for horses, since I worked on a kids farm for a time. ( I'm an education teacher , german term is "Erzieher")

[Lady Jess]

Zjarcal wrote...

@Shanara

I'm not an Alistair fan and I don't find him whiny either. I understand why he grieves over Duncan. Just because the HN's loss has been greater, it doesn't make his loss any less worth of grieving for. I do wish the dialogue options allowed for the player to remind him of their loss during some conversations.

There is one in particular that I can't remember properly. He is fondly remembering getting drunk with Duncan I think and then he starts to fall apart. The nicest dialogue choice I think was "I'm sorry, this must be hard for you". I wish there had been one like "I'm sorry, I know what losing those you love the most feels like" or something like that.

And to be honest, I wasn't offended by him asking if I had "lost anyone important" when playing a HN. I mean, you had barely met and it's not like everyone in Ostagar was talking about the Cousland massacre, so I think it's fair to say he just didn't know (or forgot).

I admit I was flabbergasted the first time I heard the "I forgot" line, and I quit playing her then, because I had set my expectations higher. I sat my HNF aside at that point and played something else. I restarted her eventually, and listened again. And his tone, he was clearly facepalming himself there, and I'd learned more about the game.  I hadn't mentioned it at Flemeth's, and I realized Duncan sent word of a recruit from Highever, but how do I know it was ME. He may have sent word he was bringing a recruit, but for all Alistair may have known it was some knight. I doubt he expected the Teyrn's daughter. Though, it would have been nice if you could have that discussion with HIM instead of frackin Wynne.

[Zjarcal]

Lady Jess wrote...
Though, it would have been nice if you could have that discussion with HIM instead of frackin Wynne. 

THIS!!!

Well, for me it would've been nice to have that discussion with ANYONE other than Wynne.

[Addai]

Zjarcal wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Esbatty wrote...

I just gotta say its not fair all the topless alistair screenies and fanart and yet I can't do the same, or the inverse, for the Morrigan thread. Thats right, Bottomless.

Once upon a time I tried to turn that into a gush thread and they were having none of it.  They wanted to be all intellectual and stuff.

For the record, I think I contributed to your efforts (posting some nekkid Loghain fan art). I'm not good at intellectual debates so a gush thread would've been better for me. 

Oh, I meant the Morrigan thread actually.  But I guess I spread fangirliness wherever I go.    Ok, probably not the Leliana thread.

Some sexy Morrigan for Esbatty and KoP.  This is NOT Alistair, it's ximena's Edric Cousland.



Ok, and an Alistair, because I know I'm seriously neglecting the big A but I'm sick of all my screenshots and have no new ones.

[Zjarcal]

Addai67 wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Esbatty wrote...

I just gotta say its not fair all the topless alistair screenies and fanart and yet I can't do the same, or the inverse, for the Morrigan thread. Thats right, Bottomless.

Once upon a time I tried to turn that into a gush thread and they were having none of it.  They wanted to be all intellectual and stuff.

For the record, I think I contributed to your efforts (posting some nekkid Loghain fan art). I'm not good at intellectual debates so a gush thread would've been better for me. 

Oh, I meant the Morrigan thread actually.  But I guess I spread fangirliness wherever I go.    Ok, probably not the Leliana thread.

Oops, I wasn't reading properly (missed Esbatty's post, guess I need some sleep) and I was remembering that time when you requested someone to post a naked Loghain and then made a comment about how "Loghain squee" was interesting or something. 

So you tried to turn the Morrigan one into a gush thread too? Sadly they don't accept that apparently. It's all about quality in there and epic posts. No room for regular gushing. Bah. <_<

And you'd be welcome to spread some hate in the Leli thread!

Modifié par Zjarcal, 06 novembre 2010 - 06:52 .

[Merilsell]

Shanara Windwalker wrote...

Okay, so seriously, that "other" thread aside....is he really whiny? He's lost someone who he feels was the first person to ever care about what he thinks and he's feeling guilty. And, as a mother and daughter, I know how powerful guilt is. And even though he admits he would have been dead too if he had been on the battlefield, still there is always the what if.

Yes, as a HN you've seen the slaughter of your family. But, you've had a wonderful home life (at least that's the impression I get.... gah... I love the Couslands). Alistair has not.

This is how I have seen that as my (rare) time as a HNF, so I was never mad on him for that.

Honestly, he is the epitome of survivor guilt. He has sh*t load of it and explains much of his behavior in some situations (yes I'm too lazy too give examples/ elaborate it right now lol) but bottom line here is that I didn't find him whiny at all. And people calling him that, only because he express actual emotions and is broken about a loss of an important person for him?  Pfffff....

There is no weight for loss or what grief is more worth and justified. If this person was important to you than it's your fekkin right to grieve, no matter how long you were knowing him/her. Period.

I actually plan to handle this in my FF later on, where Alistair will give in that it might sound ridiculous to Lenya that he still is grieving for a person he only knew for six months, while she has lost people she had known all her life. This however will make my Dalish frown and she will tell him really kind the same things I have written above...but in her own words. I simply find the need to adress this within my story, while you cannot in the game *pity* And since Lenya carries the same weight of (unreasonable) guilt on her shoulders, this scene will have an interesting dynamic...

[Addai]

Zjarcal wrote...

Oops, I wasn't reading properly (missed Esbatty's post, guess I need some sleep) and I was remembering that time when you requested someone to post a naked Loghain and then made a comment about how "Loghain squee" was interesting or something. 

Oh yeah, that was also the Alistair chew-toy discussion I believe.

So you tried to turn the Morrigan one into a gush thread too? Sadly they don't accept that apparently. It's all about quality in there and epic posts. No room for regular gushing. Bah. <_<

Yeah I did, when my HNM was romancing her.  Those guys, I think someone on the board once compared them to a smoky cigar bar.  They sit around cutting the ends off their Cubans and crying in their Scotch.  So when someone comes prancing in with gush... yeah...

And you'd be welcome to spread some hate in the Leli thread!

Are you inviting me to be an official troll?!  I'm honored!  But I have such a hard time looking at Leliana that I don't even lurk in there like I did in the Loghain thread. 

[Bruddajakka]

I don't hate Alistair but at times he gets on my nerves. Especially his temper tantrum at the Landsmeet but I understand why he does it.



One of my other problems is when you first met him he tells you that being a Grey Warden means you have to do some pretty extreme things at times then he gets pissed off at you when you make those kinds of decisions.

[Zjarcal]

Addai67 wrote...
Are you inviting me to be an official troll?!  I'm honored!  But I have such a hard time looking at Leliana that I don't even lurk in there like I did in the Loghain thread. 

Awww... I hope my avatar and sigs don't bother you then! 

[Addai]

Zjarcal wrote...

Addai67 wrote...
Are you inviting me to be an official troll?!  I'm honored!  But I have such a hard time looking at Leliana that I don't even lurk in there like I did in the Loghain thread. 

Awww... I hope my avatar and sigs don't bother you then! 

The flashing signatures bother me anyway so I just scroll quickly.

I know, I sound like an old lady shaking my cane when I say that.

[Melca36]

Screen shot  from one of the cutscenes in that new Dark Times mod.

[Esbatty]

Addai67 wrote...

Esbatty wrote...

I just gotta say its not fair all the topless alistair screenies and fanart and yet I can't do the same, or the inverse, for the Morrigan thread. Thats right, Bottomless.

Once upon a time I tried to turn that into a gush thread and they were having none of it.  They wanted to be all intellectual and stuff.

You are quite welcome to gush about Morrigan there, I've worn them down. My off-kilteredness is not only reserved for the Dragon Age 2 section. Epic posts are epic, but sideboob is awesome.

Zjarcal wrote...

Esbatty wrote...
That you did... Loghain and I have very similar legs. A fact I never needed to know. Damn you Z!

...

She is so - wispy. Mmm.

I wonder why you were staring at Loghain's hairy legs instead of the hot naked witch... 

Hmm, I'm browsing my nekkid Morrigan pics and I only have F!Warden/Morri pics or Leli/Morri pics. I'm not sure you'd want to see those.

DO WANT!

[Melca36]

Debra  Brosca is looking at the chalice wondering what the sod she has gotten herself into.

[inclemency]

Melca36 wrote...

Screen shot  from one of the cutscenes in that new Dark Times mod.


*snip*

Oh, I was going to wait for a new revision with fixes, but think I'll try this out now!