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[Schratty]

I just could never get on board the whole Zevran romance boat.

edit: ToP

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Modifié par Schratty, 14 novembre 2010 - 01:18 .

[Maria13]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Tigress M wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

That's one thing my Wardens all share to some extent:
They dont outright flirt with people once they get into a relationship.

Morrigan going after Sten when i was right there annoyed me a lot.

You know, it's funny you should mention this.  I think that's why I have such a hard time romancing Zev; the party banter, even if in a romance just makes my Warden's jealous.  

As for my PC's flirting... most of them don't, but a few of them do (like my current HN playthrough... she'll flirt with just about anything in pants IF he's cute).  

I think Zevran is outright teasing them, at least with Morrigan, and Wynne.
I think that he finds it very funny to do that, and it serves as a way to put them of their game.

Some of his banters do reflect his care for the warden though.

I think Zev in his banters even shows a considerable amount of affection for Alistair... Even if it is tempered with, "Wake up and smell the coffee, dude!"

[Tigress M]

Giggles_Manically wrote...
I think Zevran is outright teasing them, at least with Morrigan, and Wynne.
I think that he finds it very funny to do that, and it serves as a way to put them of their game.

Some of his banters do reflect his care for the warden though.

You may be right.  Maybe when I get around to playing another CE, I'll try romancing Zev again and see if I like it any better than my first two attempts.  

[rak72]

The thing I don't like about the Zev romance is that, even if he changes his ways in the end, the whole time you are being romanced, all you hear about are the people he slept with, then killed. That's why he makes a good BFF - it's entertaining to hear about others debauchery. But as a romance, it's just like - "ick, take back your dead lover's earing, please".

[Merilsell]

Page 700 wohooohoo Which is why it is time for teh stride again:

[inclemency]

Lol, we haven't seen that in a while, Merilsell, thanks!

[Schratty]

rak72 wrote...

The thing I don't like about the Zev romance is that, even if he changes his ways in the end, the whole time you are being romanced, all you hear about are the people he slept with, then killed. That's why he makes a good BFF - it's entertaining to hear about others debauchery. But as a romance, it's just like - "ick, take back your dead lover's earing, please".

QFT.

Modifié par Schratty, 10 novembre 2010 - 08:39 .

[Lady Jess]

rak72 wrote...

The thing I don't like about the Zev romance is that, even if he changes his ways in the end, the whole time you are being romanced, all you hear about are the people he slept with, then killed. That's why he makes a good BFF - it's entertaining to hear about others debauchery. But as a romance, it's just like - "ick, take back your dead lover's earing, please".

After the earring (at least if taken as a proposal) you shouldn't be hearing it unless you didn't talk to him about all of that stuff before then. Which I always have. Before dealing with Taliesen he doesn't consider himself much "in a relationship". He is trying VERY hard to be casual and not  be falling in love. And honestly you only hear about the mage (who he actually did NOT kill), and eventually Rinna. Zevran is very much behind a mask most of the game, for his own self preservation. Unlike Alistair who wears his heart right on the sleeve of his splintmail from the moment you meet him.

Edited to add: even if it's hard to hear, I find the fact that he'll be boldly honest with you a great trait.

Edited again:Unlike the mage story,  The Rinna conversation only triggers at certain approval. And it is VERY hard for him to talk about, he is definitely not bragging here. He is baring his biggest regret, and his soul to someone he now trusts with it.

Modifié par Lady Jess, 10 novembre 2010 - 08:51 .

[Addai]

Maria13 wrote...

I think Zev in his banters even shows a considerable amount of affection for Alistair... Even if it is tempered with, "Wake up and smell the coffee, dude!"

I do think they become friends.  At first it strikes me as a bit of alpha male wang-measuring going on.  Alistair is definitely jealous (he asks if women go for that kind of man), then he prods Zevran with a bit of high-horse snobbery and Zev hits back in his own disarming way, and eventually they get to the guy talk.  Some of which was so laddish that it got taken out of the game!

As for Zevran's romance, it clicked for me when I had a PC who I thought "got" him.  First my CEF, then an elven blood mage.  When you've lived on the edge yourself, it is easier to take Zevran as he is without judging him as much.

[inclemency]

I did the Zev romance all the way through for the first time in the game I just finished. I really liked it, and was surprised at how heartfelt it was. I had to do the 'breakup' just as a test at one point, and it was pretty heartbreaking, I think even more so than with Alistair. I will be doing that romance again.

[rak72]

Lady Jess wrote...

rak72 wrote...

The thing I don't like about the Zev romance is that, even if he changes his ways in the end, the whole time you are being romanced, all you hear about are the people he slept with, then killed. That's why he makes a good BFF - it's entertaining to hear about others debauchery. But as a romance, it's just like - "ick, take back your dead lover's earing, please".

After the earring (at least if taken as a proposal) you shouldn't be hearing it unless you didn't talk to him about all of that stuff before then. Which I always have. Before dealing with Taliesen he doesn't consider himself much "in a relationship". He is trying VERY hard to be casual and not  be falling in love. And honestly you only hear about the mage, and eventually Rinna. Zevran is very much behind a mask most of the game, for his own self preservation. Unlike Alistair who wears his heart right on the sleeve of his splintmail from the moment you meet him.

Edited to add: even if it's hard to hear, I find the fact that he'll be boldly honest with you a great trait.

Edited again: The Rinna conversation only triggers at certain approval. And it is VERY hard for him to talk about, he is definitely not bragging here. He is baring his biggest regret, and his soul to someone he now trusts with it.

Yea, just dosn't work to woo me.  One time, for research purposes, I turned on the Zev romance, then broke up with Ali.  I felt horrible, even though it was just for research. I then went to talk to Zev, and he starts with his dirty poetry.  I was thinking - ugh I don't want to hear this now.  But kudos to the writers, because when the responses popped up, one of them was - Not now, Zev. 

Was the poem also told to him by someone he slept with & killed?

[errant_knight]

Tigress M wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Tigress M wrote...

Well, I know I'm never going to give Kaitlyn money again! Teagan deserves better! I'll have to try for the Bella option. If my Warden can't marry Teagan, she's a better substitute than Kaitlyn, by far.
As for the prompts thing, I think it's a great idea! I'd be willing to help come up with ideas for them, if needed.

Aww, what's all the Kaitlyn hate?  Because she can end up with Teagan?  She's sweet, and she's a female blacksmith!  Or she becomes one, anyway, if you give her money.  Plus Bevin is a sweetheart.  Can you imagine Teagan raising him?  He'd be the coolest kid in Ferelden even without the sword.  And what a heartbreaker.

Bevin for DA3 follower!

LOL!  I hate Bevin, but then, I think I hate all the kids in DA... think it's the voices.  As for Kaitlyn, I just don't like whimpery women -- if my brother was lost, I wouldn't be pouting in a church... I'd be out looking for him.  

I figure she's about 14 or 15 years old, not a woman at all, and that she's been told to stay in the Chantry, most likely by Teagan, who I expect she has a massive crush on, teenage girls being what they are. She's hanging around by the door, upset, because she wants to go look for Bevin, but also doesn't want to disobey, especially if it was the arl's brother who told her to stay. Tough situation for a kid, especially one who isn't rebellious by nature.
Edit: You can kiss her, huh? That must mean that she's a little older than I thought, or the game is creepier than I thought--one or the other. She can't be much older, though, or they wouldn't be looking to relatives to take them in. And her appearance, voice and behavior are very young. Of course, Alistair's appearance, voice  and behavior are far older than 19-20, so who knows? In any case, I thinks she's doing as she's been told.

Modifié par errant_knight, 10 novembre 2010 - 09:12 .

[Lady Jess]

Kaitlyn is 18...Teagan is 30.

[Schratty]

@ Lady Jess: So there's only a 12 year difference? I was thinking Teagan was older than that...I guess that makes me a huge hypocrite.

[Giggles_Manically]

Tigress M wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...
I think Zevran is outright teasing them, at least with Morrigan, and Wynne.
I think that he finds it very funny to do that, and it serves as a way to put them of their game.

Some of his banters do reflect his care for the warden though.

You may be right.  Maybe when I get around to playing another CE, I'll try romancing Zev again and see if I like it any better than my first two attempts.  

Trust me the ending is so worth it, and Zevran has some lines that are simply amazing at the end:

[Lady Jess]

Schratty wrote...

@ Lady Jess: So there's only a 12 year difference? I was thinking Teagan was older than that...I guess that makes me a huge hypocrite.

That's all it is yep. Assuming you go by the toolset being right. Which, for lack of anything else to use. Also, Isolde is 35 and Eamon 45, so only 10 years between them.

[errant_knight]

The ages are really off in the game. Just about no one seems to be the age they're supposed to be. Kaitlyn certainly far younger than 18, and Teagan, older than 30. Bah! I'm just going to make their ages up as I see fit.

Eamon? 45? Seriously? Okay, that's it, I definitely give up on the 'canon' ages. They aren't even trying. Besides, are we supposed to believe that medieval people considered a ten year age difference 'much younger?' I don't think so.

Modifié par errant_knight, 10 novembre 2010 - 09:20 .

[Schratty]

You've officially blown my mind.

[tuppence95]

*Peeking in from work.*

:wizard:  Yay, 700!!!  :wizard:

And great weekly challenge logo!

*sneaks out again*

[Maria13]

You know what? My father was 30 when he married my mother who was 18... Exactly the same age gap. They were quite happy for 30 years until my father's death.



So, I really can't criticise Teagan...

[Addai]

inclemency wrote...

I did the Zev romance all the way through for the first time in the game I just finished. I really liked it, and was surprised at how heartfelt it was. I had to do the 'breakup' just as a test at one point, and it was pretty heartbreaking, I think even more so than with Alistair. I will be doing that romance again.

Oh yeah, Zevran breakups are... ugh.  I mean, Alistair puppy eyes are bad, but somehow it feels worse with Zevran.  I think because he's someone who was used and used sex so much, so that when he finally realizes that he has a shot at real love, to have that taken away... UGH.  Let's not even go to what happens if his Warden lover dies. 

*distracts self*  Puppies and kittens, puppies and kittens, puppies and kittens...

Modifié par Addai67, 10 novembre 2010 - 09:24 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Addai67 wrote...

inclemency wrote...

I did the Zev romance all the way through for the first time in the game I just finished. I really liked it, and was surprised at how heartfelt it was. I had to do the 'breakup' just as a test at one point, and it was pretty heartbreaking, I think even more so than with Alistair. I will be doing that romance again.

Oh yeah, Zevran breakups are... ugh.  I mean, Alistair puppy eyes are bad, but somehow it feels worse with Zevran.  I think because he's someone who was used and used sex so much, so that when he finally realizes that he has a shot at real love, to have that taken away... UGH.  Let's not even go to what happens if his Warden lover dies. 

Puppies and kittens, puppies and kittens, puppies and kittens...

Urrr...
Dont remind me of my first PT.

I was so sad that I think I got choked up a little bit.
Zevran goes back to the crows, Leliana may have commited suicide, Alistiar got married to a woman he hates and is stuck as King, the warden is dead, and to top it off the sad face Leliana had on her face at the funeral... 


HEY LOOKS ITS A PICTURE OF MY RETRIEVER TO STOP THINKING SAD THOUGHTS!

[Schratty]

For Addai

[frostajulie]

klarabella wrote...

A bit of DA2 style Alistair art. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wizard.png[/smilie]

Oh that is lovely.<3

[rak72]

Wasn't it established somehow that teagan was 38?? IDK