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[RagingCyclone]

I think it's Realistic Look Theodus body style.

[RagingCyclone]

Morrigan admires Alistair:







And Oghren wins again:

[Tigress M]

maxernst wrote...

Slightly off-topic, but what's the mod that people use to get the hairy chested Alistair (I suppose it makes all human males hairy?)...I searched under hairy on dragon nexus and couldn't spot it?

It's Realistic Look, the Theseus Male file.

And because I can't resist... here's what it looks like on Alistair:

Modifié par Tigress M, 17 novembre 2010 - 03:16 .

[maxernst]

Tigress M wrote...

maxernst wrote...

Slightly off-topic, but what's the mod that people use to get the hairy chested Alistair (I suppose it makes all human males hairy?)...I searched under hairy on dragon nexus and couldn't spot it?

It's Realistic Look, the Theseus Male file.

And because I can't resist... here's what it looks like on Alistair:

Thanks. it looks yummy on him.

[tuppence95]

Work has been keeping me too busy lately.  I didn't even get to play my little Brosca girl.  But here's a recycled RDT Ballet.

[Phedra]

I am trying to find the Mod that give you some quiet time with Alistair, and I can't find it can anyone help?



Thank you

[Addai]

Phedra wrote...

I am trying to find the Mod that give you some quiet time with Alistair, and I can't find it can anyone help?

Thank you

That's one of cmessaz's, pretty sure it is included in IRSA.

[RagingCyclone]

IRS-Alistair here:



http://social.biowar...m/project/2573/

[RagingCyclone]

Nice pic tupp.

[errant_knight]

Addai67 wrote...

RagingCyclone wrote...

Alistair will still give up the throne hardened. He still does not want it. What I have done is have him duel Loghain and kill him. And when Eamon asks you to make your say, talk to Alistiar about giving up the throne, and he will. And when Anora says that Alistiar must give up claim to the throne, he gladly does. And, again, this is hardened Alistair.

Eh.. I think it is up for interpretation whether he does it gladly.  Depending on dialogue choices, he says "pick me, Anora is not an option" and so on.  But you can force matters and give Anora the throne.

I don't know if this helps a male PC who wants to marry Anora beforehand, though.  You have to set up a marriage with her before the LM and not sure if that forces the game to the "Warden chooses" scene, as it would for an HNF in love him or if you've set up an Alistair-Anora marriage, or not.  Someone with a toolset would have to check.

Yep, there's dialogue in the toolset that I haven't gotten, being in an active romance, but he can come right out and say that he didn't want it, but now he does. It's highly situational, and depends on your dialogue choices.

Addai67 wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Isn't the Alistair dialogue bugged there? He gives an unhardened response on several points.

Yes, I had someone check that once because I was surprised he said "I didn't want to be king, I still don't" even when hardened, and it is a bug.  He's only supposed to say that if unhardened.

Ah, that explains it.

That's a seriously heroic Oghren picture!

Modifié par errant_knight, 17 novembre 2010 - 04:20 .

[Bruddajakka]

Yeah the only way to not give him the Throne if he's hardened is to spare Loghain.



Though if he is unhardened you can have him execute Loghain then take the throne with Anora, and have him thank you for it.

[RagingCyclone]

Not necessarily RDT, but it's the last of Phillip this ogre saw, and last pic before heading to bed:

[Zjarcal]

Bruddajakka wrote...

Though if he is unhardened you can have him execute Loghain then take the throne with Anora, and have him thank you for it.

He also thanks you for not giving him the throne if hardened. The only difference is that when asked if he's okay with Anora being queen, instead of saying "she was already queen, easiest oath I ever made", he says that he's not too happy with it, but better her than me.

His main issue when hardened is that he REALLY does not want Anora to be queen. He's more willing to take the throne, but it's still not what he really wants.

[Addai]

Late-breaking RDT, my Cous pauses in the midst of ogre-slaying to pose for the camera



Also, if anyone has an arcane warrior, this is a beautiful sword set.

[errant_knight]

Zjarcal wrote...

Bruddajakka wrote...

Though if he is unhardened you can have him execute Loghain then take the throne with Anora, and have him thank you for it.

He also thanks you for not giving him the throne if hardened. The only difference is that when asked if he's okay with Anora being queen, instead of saying "she was already queen, easiest oath I ever made", he says that he's not too happy with it, but better her than me.

His main issue when hardened is that he REALLY does not want Anora to be queen. He's more willing to take the throne, but it's still not what he really wants.

That's still a matter of interpretation. And whether you consider all possible lines part of his character, or just the ones your PC gets personally.
From the Dark Ritual:
Alistair: "Just agree? Just like that? No. Not based on what you've told me. I can't."
PC: "You would refuse? After everything I've done for you?"
Alistair: "You made me king, that's true. There was a time when I didn't want that, but I've changed."

[Zjarcal]

I know it's sort of open to interpretation and the fact that the dialogues are somewhat bugged doesn't help.

Still, if he thanks me for not making him king even when hardened, that's pretty telling. I'm not saying he hates the idea of being king when hardened (which he does when unhardened), but it's still not hist first choice.

If it's done and he's king, he will accept it indeed, but if it can be avoided he does seem happier.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 17 novembre 2010 - 07:55 .

[Merilsell]

Zjarcal wrote...
His main issue when hardened is that he REALLY does not want Anora to be queen. He's more willing to take the throne, but it's still not what he really wants.

Yep, this pretty much sums it up *off to work*

[errant_knight]

Zjarcal wrote...

I know it's sort of open to interpretation and the fact that the dialogues are somewhat bugged doesn't help.

Still, if he thanks me for not making him king even when hardened, that's pretty telling. I'm not saying he hates the idea of being king when hardened (which he does when unhardened), but it's still not hist first choice.

If it's done and he's king, he will accept it indeed, but if it can be avoided he does seem happier.

This is another one of those agree to disagree things.

[Zjarcal]

Hehe, at least we know how to avoid a long and endless argument. 

Random question out of the blue, do you go for the queen ending in your main game? I've always been sort of curious.

[errant_knight]

Zjarcal wrote...

Hehe, at least we know how to avoid a long and endless argument. 

Random question out of the blue, do you go for the queen ending in your main game? I've always been sort of curious.

I've had several endings on my Cousland playthroughs--consort, getting dumped and being broken hearted (weirdly, this is also the one where she became chancellor. It was also a very powerful playthrough), getting dumped and agreeing that it's the right thing to do (and going back to the wardens), and on my male playthrough, parting as friends and travelling. No, wait. That was the one time I didn't harden Alistair, because I didn't know how. Both stayed with the wardens. My personal 'canon' playthrough was the consort ending, though.

I like it that Alistair can have love and be king (In a public sort of way), and I like the follow through from Wynne's comments about love being selfish and my PC illustrating it wherever possible. And I like it that it would make Howe spin in his grave if he had one. A Cousland consort is practically his worst nightmare.

Modifié par errant_knight, 17 novembre 2010 - 08:23 .

[Tigress M]

maxernst wrote...

Tigress M wrote...

maxernst wrote...

Slightly off-topic, but what's the mod that people use to get the hairy chested Alistair (I suppose it makes all human males hairy?)...I searched under hairy on dragon nexus and couldn't spot it?

It's Realistic Look, the Theseus Male file.

And because I can't resist... here's what it looks like on Alistair:

Thanks. it looks yummy on him.

You're welcome!  And yes, yummy is exactly how he looks in it.  

[Gilsa]

I speed-ran through a Cousland game once to see how that origin was different overall and to get the queen ending because I wanted to see what became of that storyline in sequels. It's all moot now. Because I mainly played dwarves, I was on the outside looking in. I was emotionally detached from the whole Eamon/Anora/Howe angst. I understood why the Cousland players hated that trio, but those characters had little impact on my dwarf so I never really cared who was on the Ferelden throne. Always thought Anora was the better choice, but I'd usually marry Alistair off to her so I wouldn't have to do the dark ritual (woo, metagaming ftw). I would laugh when Morrigan tried to convince my character to do the dark ritual lest Loghain get the glory and be the hero if he died. Yeah, among the humans, what's your point? Not like I'd be around long enough to bask in their glory if I went back underground with my people. He can go riiiight ahead and take the final blow. =p

[Giggles_Manically]

I more laughed at her line "You can live a hero".

Really that dosent even enter my decision making process at all.



The whole DR scene really reeks of cuts, and afterthoughts though.

[Lady Jess]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I more laughed at her line "You can live a hero".
Really that dosent even enter my decision making process at all.

The whole DR scene really reeks of cuts, and afterthoughts though.

Mine either. But we're talking Morrigan here. What she perceives as a powerful argument is based on her personality and desires more than what's in character for a warden.

[Lady Jess]

Zjarcal wrote...

I know it's sort of open to interpretation and the fact that the dialogues are somewhat bugged doesn't help.

Still, if he thanks me for not making him king even when hardened, that's pretty telling. I'm not saying he hates the idea of being king when hardened (which he does when unhardened), but it's still not hist first choice.

If it's done and he's king, he will accept it indeed, but if it can be avoided he does seem happier.

Alistair: When Arl Eamon said I was going to be king I thought, "That's it! Your worst fears have finally been realized!" (VO: a bit jokingly, but it was a serious situation for him)
Alistair: But you didn't make me king...and Loghain still got what he deserved. (VO: earnest thanks)
PC: You're ok with anora being queen?
Alistair: Barely, But better her than me, that's what I say (VO: said with a shrug--he's happier with this result, mostly)

So, yes, he clearly is happier, you're correct.  And even when he accepts being King, his reasoning is to end the blight. He flat out TELLS you "If that's what it takes to end the blight" when you ask about losing his freedom.