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[Addai]

Aha, Edward Norton makes an appearance on the new thread. 


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Modifié par Addai67, 25 août 2010 - 07:25 .

[Khalara]

Okay. I have a question for you guys (as in dudes).  How would Alistair respond to jealousy?  Envy?

Scenerio:

   PC and Alistair are childhood friends, but because Alistair was sent to  the Chantry, they've been apart for well over 10yrs.  So, when they finally meet back up at Ostagar, they are essentially starting over, but they still remember each other, and consider one another friends. 
   Now, that the friendship is starting to grow into something more, how would he deal with incoming outside influences. (i.e. Teagan kisses the PC, PC doesn't reciprocate, nor does she stop it, Alistair sees part of it, not all, and draws conclusions)  At this point, neither the PC or Alistair have expressed their feelings for each other. to each other and they are both really emotionally raw.

So how would a guy react to this situation?  I've discussed it with my hubby, but I wanted to get a well rounded opinion from other guys too, and based on Alistair's personality.

Would he blow up emotionally? Would he internalize it and and let it fester till he couldn't take it anymore?  Would he actually talk to the PC about it?

Let me know if there is more I can add to make answering this question easier.

[Aggie Punbot]

Quick question for fellow Alistair fans: in Awakening, Leliana and Zevran will apparently write a letter to the PC if they were in a romance with them at the end of Origins. Does Alistair have a similar letter if he is not made king? If so, would anyone happen to have a rough idea of when this letter should be expected to show up?

[SurelyForth]

TS2Aggie wrote...

Quick question for fellow Alistair fans: in Awakening, Leliana and Zevran will apparently write a letter to the PC if they were in a romance with them at the end of Origins. Does Alistair have a similar letter if he is not made king? If so, would anyone happen to have a rough idea of when this letter should be expected to show up?

Unfortunately, it seems Warden Alistair is trapped in a well somewhere (or locked up in a tower playing with his dolls) and hasn't time to write or visit his beloved during Awakening.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Khalara wrote...
So how would a guy react to this situation?  I've discussed it with my hubby, but I wanted to get a well rounded opinion from other guys too, and based on Alistair's personality.

Would he blow up emotionally? Would he internalize it and and let it fester till he couldn't take it anymore?  Would he actually talk to the PC about it?

Let me know if there is more I can add to make answering this question easier.

Well seeing how I have little in common with him, I don't think I can give you an adequate response based on what I would do.

However, I think Alistair would internalize it and possibly give up on it (like he does to other situations), until he could no longer bear it. I do not think he would blow up emotionally, not at first anyways.  

[Khalara]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Khalara wrote...
So how would a guy react to this situation?  I've discussed it with my hubby, but I wanted to get a well rounded opinion from other guys too, and based on Alistair's personality.

Would he blow up emotionally? Would he internalize it and and let it fester till he couldn't take it anymore?  Would he actually talk to the PC about it?

Let me know if there is more I can add to make answering this question easier.

Well seeing how I have little in common with him, I don't think I can give you an adequate response based on what I would do.

However, I think Alistair would internalize it and possibly give up on it (like he does to other situations), until he could no longer bear it. I do not think he would blow up emotionally, not at first anyways.  

This is what I was originally thinking too.  Then my hubby said something along the lines of "guys don't think that way"  and now I'm all like o---kay, now what?  Fortunately I don't have anything finalized for this story, so it can still be fixed.  But I definitely had Alistair pegged a one to stew on something like this... I dunno.<_<

[KnightofPhoenix]

Khalara wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Khalara wrote...
So how would a guy react to this situation?  I've discussed it with my hubby, but I wanted to get a well rounded opinion from other guys too, and based on Alistair's personality.

Would he blow up emotionally? Would he internalize it and and let it fester till he couldn't take it anymore?  Would he actually talk to the PC about it?

Let me know if there is more I can add to make answering this question easier.

Well seeing how I have little in common with him, I don't think I can give you an adequate response based on what I would do.

However, I think Alistair would internalize it and possibly give up on it (like he does to other situations), until he could no longer bear it. I do not think he would blow up emotionally, not at first anyways.  

This is what I was originally thinking too.  Then my hubby said something along the lines of "guys don't think that way"  and now I'm all like o---kay, now what? 

Eh, come to think of it, my reaction wouldn't be too dissimilar. Except it would have more anger in it (and no giving up).
Guys don't happen to think exactly alike. 

Maybe hardened Alistair would have a more direct approach. But I personnally can't picture unhardened Alistair going to the PC and telling her everything just like that.

[Khalara]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Khalara wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Khalara wrote...
So how would a guy react to this situation?  I've discussed it with my hubby, but I wanted to get a well rounded opinion from other guys too, and based on Alistair's personality.

Would he blow up emotionally? Would he internalize it and and let it fester till he couldn't take it anymore?  Would he actually talk to the PC about it?

Let me know if there is more I can add to make answering this question easier.

Well seeing how I have little in common with him, I don't think I can give you an adequate response based on what I would do.

However, I think Alistair would internalize it and possibly give up on it (like he does to other situations), until he could no longer bear it. I do not think he would blow up emotionally, not at first anyways.  

This is what I was originally thinking too.  Then my hubby said something along the lines of "guys don't think that way"  and now I'm all like o---kay, now what? 

Eh, come to think of it, my reaction wouldn't be too dissimilar. Except it would have more anger in it (and no giving up).
Guys don't happen to think exactly alike. 

Maybe hardened Alistair would have a more direct approach. But I personnally can't picture unhardened Alistair going to the PC and telling her everything just like that.

Alistair isn't hardened, yet.  He will be though when I eventually get to that part. (have a Circle to free first).  More of the scene I'm writing goes kinda like..

He sees Teagan kiss her.  At this point he's not sure of his own feelings toward her, she's his old friend, but  there are the small roots of something more started.  He doesn't know what he should feel right now, much less how he should act.  Then he's dealing with the pangs of jealousy of seeing Teagan kiss her.  He runs out slamming the door behind him.  He doesn't see her push Teagan away, so he doesn't have the whole story, but that doesn't stop it from hurting any less.  So, he sort of 'walls' himself off to it and ends up being rather cold toward her. 
     She loves him, but is afraid of pushing him away by being too aggressive, and the whole mess of him being a friend too.
   What I'm trying to do is have things come to a point where Alistair finally does blow up at her (without killing Connor or Isolde,  I have another plan).  She feels he's essentially telling her to get lost, so ... well she does.
And then we get to the mushy gushy goodness.

(why do I do this to myself... agh!)

[KnightofPhoenix]

I think this sounds Alistair like enough. But I am not an expert on him.

[SurelyForth]

Also, you should keep in mind that he doesn't get jealous of the PC bangin' Zevran until Zev hits Adore. So why he might feel a little jealous, I don't see him getting angry or anything.



He's pretty up front with his feelings, though. I feel like, if anything, seeing Teagan kiss her would push him to approach her rather than making him back off.

[Sarah1281]

If Alistair is still in the friends-zone, though, he might feel like he can't really say anything as they're not together (feelings aside) and so she technically can kiss whoever she wants as much as he hates it. Although he might still say something about how 'unsuitable' the match is or how they don't have time for things like that and they're supposed to be dealing with a Blight.

[Khalara]

SurelyForth wrote...

Also, you should keep in mind that he doesn't get jealous of the PC bangin' Zevran until Zev hits Adore. So why he might feel a little jealous, I don't see him getting angry or anything.

He's pretty up front with his feelings, though. I feel like, if anything, seeing Teagan kiss her would push him to approach her rather than making him back off.

Keep in mind, that in my story, he and the pc have known each other a long time, (been seperated, but they aren't perfect strangers)  So would that change how he deals with it.

And I don't neccessarily agree with how the game handles the jealousy issue.. I mean I don't know a single guy who would be in love with a girl and just let her flit about with someone else.  But that is just me.

I have him at first, after seeing Teagan kiss, he's quiet and reserved.  She actually approaches him, because she notices him being more standoffish than usual.  But since he's not sure of his own feelings, he doesn't want to just unload on her unfairly, so he just bottles it in for now, till she does something to bring everything to a head.

I dunno..  Am I just rambling now?

This is how I am feeling about it right now.

Modifié par Khalara, 25 août 2010 - 02:39 .

[Addai]

SurelyForth wrote...

Also, you should keep in mind that he doesn't get jealous of the PC bangin' Zevran until Zev hits Adore. So why he might feel a little jealous, I don't see him getting angry or anything.

He's pretty up front with his feelings, though. I feel like, if anything, seeing Teagan kiss her would push him to approach her rather than making him back off.

I agree, he is actually pretty forward and jealousy is one of the things that gets him off his dime.  Though I'd add that he has an alpha male jealousy dynamic going with Zevran from day one, if you look at the banters.  He tries to deny jealousy if you ask him about it, but it's sooo obvious.

That said, it's hard to say what an AU Alistair might do.  Too many other factors come into play.

[Khalara]

Sarah1281 wrote...

If Alistair is still in the friends-zone, though, he might feel like he can't really say anything as they're not together (feelings aside) and so she technically can kiss whoever she wants as much as he hates it. Although he might still say something about how 'unsuitable' the match is or how they don't have time for things like that and they're supposed to be dealing with a Blight.

This is a lot closer to my own thoughts.  He may feel jealousy toward the situation, but in the end, feels like it's none of his business. No matter what he feels.  That and he's been brought up to basicly put his own desires aside, that they don't matter.  So much so that it blinds him to the fact that he's got someone almost literally right under his nose that is willing to move the very earth for him.  All he knows is rejection and pain, so when someone comes along, (a childhood friend) who starts showing him that 'he' matters and that someone actually cares what 'he' wants and needs, he clings to it for dear life.  

...rambling again.. sorry.

Thank you to those who have put in their opinions though.  It has helped quite a lot.

[Khalara]

Addai67 wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

Also, you should keep in mind that he doesn't get jealous of the PC bangin' Zevran until Zev hits Adore. So why he might feel a little jealous, I don't see him getting angry or anything.

He's pretty up front with his feelings, though. I feel like, if anything, seeing Teagan kiss her would push him to approach her rather than making him back off.

I agree, he is actually pretty forward and jealousy is one of the things that gets him off his dime.  Though I'd add that he has an alpha male jealousy dynamic going with Zevran from day one, if you look at the banters.  He tries to deny jealousy if you ask him about it, but it's sooo obvious.

That said, it's hard to say what an AU Alistair might do.  Too many other factors come into play.

At the risk of sounding dumb... What does AU mean?  I'm going to kick myself, I just know it.

Otherwise... Would he be so willing to discuss the issue with the PC so early on in the romantic friendship?  Or would he hold off and kinda see where things lead, (still stewing all the while), before addressing it?

[maxernst]

I think Alistair would mope and give up on the PC as a romantic interest, rather than approach her directly. He would probably convince himself that he was crazy to think a woman like the PC would be interested in him, especially given that his rival is a Bann and he's just a bastard.

[Yankee23]

Khalara wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

If Alistair is still in the friends-zone, though, he might feel like he can't really say anything as they're not together (feelings aside) and so she technically can kiss whoever she wants as much as he hates it. Although he might still say something about how 'unsuitable' the match is or how they don't have time for things like that and they're supposed to be dealing with a Blight.

This is a lot closer to my own thoughts.  He may feel jealousy toward the situation, but in the end, feels like it's none of his business. No matter what he feels.  That and he's been brought up to basicly put his own desires aside, that they don't matter.  So much so that it blinds him to the fact that he's got someone almost literally right under his nose that is willing to move the very earth for him.  All he knows is rejection and pain, so when someone comes along, (a childhood friend) who starts showing him that 'he' matters and that someone actually cares what 'he' wants and needs, he clings to it for dear life.  

...rambling again.. sorry.

Thank you to those who have put in their opinions though.  It has helped quite a lot.

I agree. I think he would start with the stewing until something else causes him to confront the pc and this leaks in or he thinks thier relationship and her relationship with someone else (imagined or not) has advanced to the point where a choice needs to be made. This does happen in game with Zev (and Leliana), he tells the pc they need to choose, but only after things have reached a certain point with both.

I am intrigued... I want to read this.

[LadyDamodred]

If they haven't expressed any feelings towards each other yet, he probably doesn't do much.  He would internalize it.  But Alistair doesn't get possessive or confrontational about it unless he already knows the PC likes him.  You can sleep with everyone else in camp, and unless you've told Alistair you like him, he accepts it.  He might feel a little bad that he missed his chance, as it were, but I don't think he's going to get that upset.  If the PC is his friend, he's probably happy that she's happy at least.  He might, like Surely said, if he really likes her, confess his own feelings.

Also, yes, doesn't it suck that there's no letter from Alistair?  Wouldn't it be nice if someone wrote a letter from him? 

[Khalara]

Yankee23 wrote...

I agree. I think he would start with the stewing until something else causes him to confront the pc and this leaks in or he thinks thier relationship and her relationship with someone else (imagined or not) has advanced to the point where a choice needs to be made. This does happen in game with Zev (and Leliana), he tells the pc they need to choose, but only after things have reached a certain point with both.

I am intrigued... I want to read this.

Typing chapter one right now.  Have chapter two mostly done,(written) but this is where the whole jealousy mess starts in, so I was doing some research and needed to know how a guy would react to the situation.  Since I'm not a guy, I'm not wired to know these things and well...yeah.  Hubby is only one guy, though some of what he told me makes sense, not all of it fits Alistair or the situation. 

[Khalara]

TheGrumpyOne wrote...

Re: Khalara

AU stands for  "Alternative universe".

Thank you Grumpy.. See, I knew I was gonna kick myself.

[Yankee23]

LadyDamodred wrote...

If they haven't expressed any feelings towards each other yet, he probably doesn't do much.  He would internalize it.  But Alistair doesn't get possessive or confrontational about it unless he already knows the PC likes him.  You can sleep with everyone else in camp, and unless you've told Alistair you like him, he accepts it.  He might feel a little bad that he missed his chance, as it were, but I don't think he's going to get that upset.  If the PC is his friend, he's probably happy that she's happy at least.  He might, like Surely said, if he really likes her, confess his own feelings.

Also, yes, doesn't it suck that there's no letter from Alistair?  Wouldn't it be nice if someone wrote a letter from him? 

I bet you would do a good job with this, you write Alistair very well.

[tuppence95]

 Oooh!  Looks like KoP should be very happy about the latest DLC news.  But what's with this archdemon was slain and the darkspawn halted by a "lone, heroic Grey Warden"?  

In most of my stories, Alistair played a very big part in that ending, and he would be interested in Morrigan's story.

[Yankee23]

tuppence95 wrote...

 Oooh!  Looks like KoP should be very happy about the latest DLC news.  But what's with this archdemon was slain and the darkspawn halted by a "lone, heroic Grey Warden"?  

In most of my stories, Alistair played a very big part in that ending, and he would be interested in Morrigan's story.

I quote "word has reached the Wardens that Morrigan has returned to Ferelden"...The Wardens... Alistair...maybe????