The Alistair Gush Thread: *Squee*
#18551
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 03:52
The toolset has some really awesome ones.
#18552
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 04:06
#18553
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 04:44
inclemency wrote...
I've gotten the Lethe both ways now, the good, and the bad.
Alistair at the other camp
You know its funny, I found the camp on my second playthrough, then had a complete brain drain and could not find it the third time. I'm going to get it on my fourth playthrough. LOL
#18554
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 04:52
And no clue what the other camp is that Storm was referring to, doesn't look familiar.
Modifié par Reika, 20 novembre 2010 - 04:53 .
#18555
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 09:15
Isn't your Warden supposed to be a capable fighter? My Warden doesn't need protection, you don't engage in sword fighting when you don't know what you're doing.Lady Jess wrote...
I find even if I'm romancing Alistair, I leave his tactics on aggressive. I see him as less...i don't know, worried about ME once Zev is in the party. Zev (who's default tactic is to attack anything that attacks the warden) is basicallly assigned to take care of me while Alistair defends the group as a whole. Thank the maker they get along well. It wouldn't work so well if they got along like him and Morrigan.
And Zevran's tactics are supposed to make backstabbing more likely, it has nothing to do with protection.
#18556
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 11:19
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#18557
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 01:17
@Reika - There is a party camp in DT, and if you do all of the statue battles, you get the means to get the Lethe the 'good' way.
A favourite of mine
Modifié par inclemency, 20 novembre 2010 - 01:18 .
#18558
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 02:27
#18559
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 02:29
...Zevran attacking whatever attacks the Warden is a sign that he wants to kill you instead of trying to protect you? How?klarabella wrote...
Isn't your Warden supposed to be a capable fighter? My Warden doesn't need protection, you don't engage in sword fighting when you don't know what you're doing.Lady Jess wrote...
I find even if I'm romancing Alistair, I leave his tactics on aggressive. I see him as less...i don't know, worried about ME once Zev is in the party. Zev (who's default tactic is to attack anything that attacks the warden) is basicallly assigned to take care of me while Alistair defends the group as a whole. Thank the maker they get along well. It wouldn't work so well if they got along like him and Morrigan.
And Zevran's tactics are supposed to make backstabbing more likely, it has nothing to do with protection.
And no one said that the Warden needed protection but I don't find it unbelievable that people would be inclined to try anyway.
#18560
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 02:33

(Banner by klarabella)
Prompt sentence: "Everyone has a dark(er) side."
Hope this prompt is interesting enough
#18561
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 02:41
@Merilsell - Really good one!!
#18562
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 02:46
In the meanwhile I'll keep looking what you amazing people make out of it and update the archive. Have fun ^^
#18563
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 02:59
Interesting note, the companion ring will take you to Lothering before it was destroyed. Not sure why, as yet.
@ Merilsell, I'm going to wrestle with the idea for a bit, I think, but it's another stroke of brilliance!
Modifié par inclemency, 20 novembre 2010 - 03:05 .
#18564
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 03:01
@Storm, thanks. I like the colors you have, but some are a little wild. And while I like Parlimant Funkadelic, not sure I would for the entire game. *singing* " We need the funk...got to have that funk.....yeah...."
#18565
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 03:02
'The Hat' gives human female players white ponytails, but makes human males bald under there
Modifié par inclemency, 20 novembre 2010 - 03:04 .
#18566
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 03:06
Merilsell wrote...
Prompt time ^^
(Banner by klarabella)
Prompt sentence: "Everyone has a dark(er) side."
Hope this prompt is interesting enough
Hmmm.... *ponders*
#18567
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 03:15
#18568
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 03:16
#18569
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 03:17
This should be interesting...
#18570
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 03:22
#18571
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 03:26
:happy: Oh, I didn't realize backstabbing could be interpreted that way. I meant actual backstabbing for more damage. Enemies who are hitting the main character are more likely to turn their backs to Zevran and the Warden is the only character who is always available and very likely to be controlled by the player.Sarah1281 wrote...
...Zevran attacking whatever attacks the Warden is a sign that he wants to kill you instead of trying to protect you? How?
Hm, ist it even possible to protect someone that way while you're engaged in fighting? It's just a standard assumption that always rubbed me the wrong way: Miss Super-awesome with the silver tongue and the quickest blades (or spells) in all of Thedas needs protection.Sarah1281 wrote...
And no one said that the Warden needed protection but I don't find it unbelievable that people would be inclined to try anyway.
But that's just me thinking aloud.
Modifié par klarabella, 20 novembre 2010 - 03:44 .
#18572
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 03:40
Alistair may not have ever really felt that he was the bravest guy around or the smartest (although he often felt like he was the funniest but that was more due to the humorless men he found himself surrounded by than any great skill on his part) but he could at least rest assured that he was, without a doubt, a decent person.
Not to say that he was perfect, of course, and he had plenty of foibles but he never went out of his way to hurt people and he often went out of his way to help them. Often but not always because, again, lack of perfection and his situation not always making it feasible to lend a hand. Lothering, for instance. He had wanted so badly to save those people but even if he had stayed until the Blight devoured the town he wouldn’t have been able to do much and then who would save the rest of Ferelden? Leliana said that the fact that he felt so horrible about doing what he had to do to save everybody meant that he was a good person. Alistair himself wasn’t so sure but he figured that Leliana had spent a lot of time recently doing some soul-searching and reflection in the Chantry so she would probably know better than he would.
It wasn’t like Alistair was trying to be the best person around but he generally held to the belief that he was thoroughly decent. Despite his templar training, he had supported saving the mages. He had supported ending the curse the werewolves had been under and thus saving both them and the Dalish. He had supported saving Redcliffe from the walking dead and then in saving both Connor and Isolde. He had been horrified when what seemed like the entire village of Haven had attacked them and forced him and the others to wipe them all out. Morality mattered to him. The world wasn’t black and white and so sometimes the right thing to do wouldn’t be clear – like pretty much everything in Orzammar – but at least he could say that he always tried.
Except.
Except there had been a slow-burning hatred in him ever since Ostagar. He had tried to stay calm, tried to impartially find a reason for Loghain’s sudden retreat and the massacre that followed but he hadn’t been able to. Part of it, he supposed, was the cryptic little hints that Flemeth had given him about what had happened. But really? “Men's hearts hold shadows darker than any tainted creature”? How else was he supposed to interpret that and the dozens of other pithy statements just like it? Another part of it was the fact that Duncan was dead. Duncan and the other Wardens and King Cailan and hundreds if not thousands of good Ferelden men…all of whom were counting on the celebrated Teyrn Loghain to charge.
So maybe Alistair had problems thinking about Loghain rationally but it wasn’t like the man hadn’t seemed to go out of his way to prove what a treacherous bastard he really was. Declaring himself regent and sparking a civil war, sending an assassin after them, declaring the Grey Wardens outlaws, blaming the Grey Wardens for his own crimes, snatching a blood mage from templars that he then imprisoned, sending said blood mage to poison Arl Eamon and indirectly causing everything that followed, selling elves into slavery, allowing the torture of nobles, having his own daughter kidnapped and making her fear for her life…Alistair felt that he could have been thoroughly convinced that quitting the field at Ostagar was the only way to preserve what was left of the army and thus save the country because everyone else was doomed anyway and he still would have found plenty of reason to want Loghain’s head.
So no, it wasn’t like he had a problem with this burning hatred because he felt that Loghain didn’t deserve it because he did and quite a bit more, too. What was really starting to scare him was what that hatred was doing to him. His fellow Warden had tentatively brought up the fact that Anora had spoken out in support of sparing her father’s life if it was at all practical to do so and his reaction to that had been quite a bit stronger than he’d expected. He had been, in the moment that followed this announcement, perfectly willing to give Anora the crown and let her rule despite his serious reservations about her concern for the people if it had meant Loghain’s death. He had tried to imagine watching Loghain walk out of the Landsmeet chambers alive and his first reaction had been that he’d walk out of Ferelden if he did. If anyone should even think to spare Loghain by conscripting him then he didn’t even know how he would react.
That…that wasn’t right. Loghain was evil, yes, but leaving wouldn’t hurt him so much as it would hurt Ferelden and the country he had worked tirelessly to save for the past year didn’t deserve to be abandoned by him just because Loghain was still around. He knew that, he did, but he couldn’t guarantee that he could bring himself to stay if things had played out that way.
That was why, when Loghain had surprisingly been talked down from attempting to kill them all for voting against them, Alistair had been so eager to duel Loghain himself. His fellow Warden looked like she had some serious reservations about letting him but she had ultimately agreed and that was all that mattered. The duel was to go on until one side became incapable of fighting or until one party yielded.
“So, there is some of Maric in you after all. Good,” Loghain said, resheathing his sword. He sounded calm, like he knew what was coming.
Loghain had just yielded. He didn’t even have a weapon in hand anymore. Technically, the duel was over even if it hadn’t been called. He should just let it go, he knew. He should trust that justice would be done and Loghain would be executed as a traitor for what he had done to Ferelden over the past year. But…his fellow Warden had seemed almost disappointed when he had so vehemently objected to Anora’s desire to let Loghain live if it could be done. It was unlikely, yes, but did he really want to risk it? He may get justice in the future but he could get justice right now. The blade was in his hands and Loghain’s head was bowed to make it oh-so-easy to just swing his sword and…
“Forget Maric. This is for Duncan.”
Everyone had a darker side.
#18573
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 03:46
KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Interesting. This shouldn't require a lot of thinking.
You think so? I'd like to not do one about Loghain, since I know it'll be popular. Which means I have to reach and think for something else.
#18574
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 03:50
klarabella wrote...
:happy: Oh, I didn't realize backstabbing could be interpreted that way. I meant actual backstabbing for more damage. Enemies who are hitting the main character are more likely to turn their backs to Zevran and the Warden is the only character who is always available and very likely to be controlled by the player.Sarah1281 wrote...
...Zevran attacking whatever attacks the Warden is a sign that he wants to kill you instead of trying to protect you? How?Hm, ist it even possible to protect someone that way while you're engaged in fighting? It's just a standard assumption that always rubbed me the wrong way: Miss Super-awesome with the silver tongue and the quickest blades (or spells) in all of Thedas needs protection.Sarah1281 wrote...
And no one said that the Warden needed protection but I don't find it unbelievable that people would be inclined to try anyway.
But that's just me thinking aloud.
Sorry if I jumped in late and missed the first part of the conversation but what if the warden sux at fighting? A mage is very squishy, a rogue that focused on rogue skills and not fighting dies quickly so it is not inconceivable that Zev is protecting the warden. Also as the man who tried to kill her and was subsequently spared he may be always protecting her back to demonstrate how he can be trusted ands he means it when he says he has joined up with the warden. What better way top show that then to consistently save the wardens life in battle?
#18575
Posté 20 novembre 2010 - 03:51
This will be an interesting prompt, now that Sarah has played the Loghain card. Looking forward to seeing what others come up with. :happy:





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