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[Sarah1281]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Well what was he supposed to say...

Farewell you giant a hole, I hope you burn in hell!

See, this is why Anora doesn't let him do Loghain's.

[tuppence95]

It's been a long time since I've done the US, but I thought I remembered Alistair's eulogy being very touching and heartfelt if he is the LI.  I don't think I've heard Anora's.

I watched the video that Rage linked to.  Obviously, I've never done enough to upset Alistair.  He's pretty PO'd there!  It's odd that I've done most of the things in Zjarcal's list, but he never got that angry.  I guess it depends on where you go in the dialogues after you commit those acts.

And speaking of PO'd companions!  I've never seen this before.  http://www.youtube.c...u/4/o_8ViN4b8wk

[Tigress M]

Nope, never seen the Oghren hate speech either. My Wardens just can't be mean enough to tick anyone off that much.

And completely changing the subject, here's another instance of Leilana seemingly seeking comfort from Sten after completing her personal quest.

[Zjarcal]

tuppence95 wrote...

I watched the video that Rage linked to.  Obviously, I've never done enough to upset Alistair.  He's pretty PO'd there!  It's odd that I've done most of the things in Zjarcal's list, but he never got that angry.  I guess it depends on where you go in the dialogues after you commit those acts.

And speaking of PO'd companions!  I've never seen this before.  http://www.youtube.c...u/4/o_8ViN4b8wk

As I mentioned before, your approval with Alistair probably never hits  -100 because you're taking him with you on the main quests and you're also making some decisions that he approves of, so it balances itself out.

In my game he's stayed at camp all the time (except for RtO) and I haven't gained even ONE point of approval from Alistair, it has been constant disapproval after disapproval. It's much easier to reach -100 like that.

And damn! Oghren's crisis point really is bad! I find it funny though, Oghren is fighting you to the death and all your companions just stand there. Hell, in the first part Oghren kills the warden and nobody does anything about it!

I remember I saw a video of Shale's crisis point and the rest of the party joined in the fight. Strange.

@Tigress:

I had that happen to me as well. Since I had always given him his sword at Redcliffe  outside of Dwynn's home I had never had that happen to me. I wonder if it's related to Improved Atmosphere's companion relocation in camp.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 24 novembre 2010 - 11:26 .

[RagingCyclone]

@Tigress, that is sooooo wrong! Leliana does not like Sten beyond calling him a softie. No! lol



@Zjar, yeah, I have been taking him me, but not done RtO yet, or the Honnleath yet. I do know that if you tell Shale to attack Alistair you get a drop. hehe Found that out by accident one time.



@tupp, I have seen that once just to see it, wasn't hard, just tell him how bad being drunk is and he drops like a rock. Helps that he is always saying something in camp unlike the others who shut off when you get too low.

[Giggles_Manically]

Another thing to do when picking up Zevran is saying:

He's not the first castoff we have picked up.



Scorch!

[Zjarcal]

Yeah, that one also gets him riled up! Another ten point drop right there.



@RC: If you allow Kitty to possess the girl or fail the persuade check you will also get a hefty approval drop.

[RagingCyclone]

Zjarcal wrote...

Yeah, that one also gets him riled up! Another ten point drop right there.

@RC: If you allow Kitty to possess the girl or fail the persuade check you will also get a hefty approval drop.

See, I did that with Kitty once, he didn't change, Leli dropped and Morrigan approved. I think Wynne was the only other one I have had drop there.

[Zjarcal]

Weird, I did get a hefty drop from him there (-10 I think).



Also, if you plan to make him king you can always tell him that you did it to annoy him. That should net you a nice approval drop.

[Giggles_Manically]

There is a mod somewhere that adds items that can start romances, and drop approval I just cant find them.



I didnt get the Alistair hate speech with Everd (evil mage),

SO you have trouble with Loghain when you watched someone:

Knife 2 people in Ostagar

Restart the Anvil of the Void

Kill the Dalish quite gleefully

Kill the mages because he could

Despoil the Urn and Kill a friend of yours, then murder knife Genetivi

Kill all the elves in a blood ritual in the Alienage.

He did save Redcliffe though mostly since he was well bored and didnt want to fight more undead.



Besides that Everd said nice things, and gave him his plot gifts, and so had 60 approval I think.

Then Alistair got executed, because he was mad about sparing Loghain.



To quote Arnold S: "You think you are bad huh? You think you are a tough guy? Youre a f-ing Choir boy compared to me! A CHOIR BOY!"



Loghain did nothing compared to what Everd did or would do.

[tuppence95]

You guys are so mean to Alistair!  I just can't do it.  This character was supposed to be the anti-Alistair, Leli-loving warden!  I made choices he didn't like, and he still ended up giving her the rose.  I guess I'm just a sucker for ex-templars with a goofy sense of humor.  

Hey, I watched another video posted by the person who did the angry Alistair and Oghren videos.  This one is a long collection of Leliana jealousies.  She sure is forgiving!  I'm assuming this must've been edited from several different playthroughs.  And wow, she can get catty about Morrigan!  "Wading through the swamp!"  

Modifié par tuppence95, 24 novembre 2010 - 11:42 .

[Yankee23]

Zjarcal wrote...

tuppence95 wrote...

I watched the video that Rage linked to.  Obviously, I've never done enough to upset Alistair.  He's pretty PO'd there!  It's odd that I've done most of the things in Zjarcal's list, but he never got that angry.  I guess it depends on where you go in the dialogues after you commit those acts.

And speaking of PO'd companions!  I've never seen this before.  http://www.youtube.c...u/4/o_8ViN4b8wk

As I mentioned before, your approval with Alistair probably never hits  -100 because you're taking him with you on the main quests and you're also making some decisions that he approves of, so it balances itself out.

In my game he's stayed at camp all the time (except for RtO) and I haven't gained even ONE point of approval from Alistair, it has been constant disapproval after disapproval. It's much easier to reach -100 like that.

And damn! Oghren's crisis point really is bad! I find it funny though, Oghren is fighting you to the death and all your companions just stand there. Hell, in the first part Oghren kills the warden and nobody does anything about it!

I remember I saw a video of Shale's crisis point and the rest of the party joined in the fight. Strange.

@Tigress:

I had that happen to me as well. Since I had always given him his sword at Redcliffe  outside of Dwynn's home I had never had that happen to me. I wonder if it's related to Improved Atmosphere's companion relocation in camp.

Nope, I don't have IA and it also happens on the Xbox. I guess she just likes to wander a bit every now and then.

[RagingCyclone]

tuppence95 wrote...

You guys are so mean to Alistair!  I just can't do it.  This character was supposed to be the anti-Alistair, Leli-loving warden!  I made choices he didn't like, and he still ended up giving her the rose.  I guess I'm just a sucker for ex-templars with a goofy sense of humor.  

Hey, I watched another video posted by the person who did the angry Alistair and Oghren videos.  This one is a long collection of Leliana jealousies.  She sure is forgiving!  I'm assuming this must've been edited from several different playthroughs.  And wow, she can get catty about Morrigan!  "Wading through the swamp!"  

Get the Morrigan Dialogue Restoration Patch, it gets even better. This morning she and Morrigan were fighting because Mori thought Leli stared at me too much, and Leli told MOri she was jealous because I spurned her advances. Priceless. The best one is when Leli calls Mori a b***h.

Modifié par RagingCyclone, 25 novembre 2010 - 12:02 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Those are also fixed in the Zevran Dialouge fix, and Dialouge Tweaks.



Plus it adds some extra Oghren banter that should have been in the game, especially with Shale.

[RagingCyclone]

Best jealousy line in the game from an LI, imho, is Morrigan while flirting with Isabella: "I swear by Flemeth's beard, if her STINK rubs off on YOU I will NEVER touch you again!" (caps for emphasis)

[tuppence95]

I've got IRS-A, Zev Dialogue Fix and Morrigan Resto Patch. I removed Dialogue Tweaks because one of the mods replaced it, I think. I just haven't explored nearly as much Leliana and Morrigan dialogue as I have the male LIs.

[RagingCyclone]

@tupp, I think all three have done the replacing DT part, and when IRS-L gets finished it will finish off the last piece remaining, I think, of what DT fixed.

[Giggles_Manically]

I am going to get rid of Dialouge Tweaks soon since there are other mods that dont conflict and fix all the things it does.

[RagingCyclone]

@Giggles, I know ejoslin made a Leliana fixes mod, and I am using the one cmess made to test the IRS-L because DT wasn't working right for some reason when she was trying to add the cutscenes and kisses options with it. cme's is from scratch, and I think ejoslin also made the Zevran fixes.

[Tigress M]

Zjarcal wrote...
@Tigress:

I had that happen to me as well. Since I had always given him his sword at Redcliffe  outside of Dwynn's home I had never had that happen to me. I wonder if it's related to Improved Atmosphere's companion relocation in camp.

I don't use Improved Atmosphere, and the repositioning is only after Leilana's personal quest and only the first time I return to camp after said quest.  It's happened in a couple of different playthroughs, but not every one.  I just think it's hilarious!

[Zjarcal]

@Tigress:



Well, I guess she does like to be around Sten then! Not that I mind really, Sten is made of awesome.

[RagingCyclone]

@Tigress, I have never had her move from her normal spot. Weird. Are you perhaps using a companion mod when she does that? Like Ser Gilmore?

[Tigress M]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Another thing to do when picking up Zevran is saying:
He's not the first castoff we have picked up.

Scorch!

You'll get a great line from him (and a -10 approval) if you tell him "because I said so".  His reply starts off something like, "Bossy!  Normally hot, but now, not so much."  Of course you probably have to be a fem to get that line. LOL

[Tigress M]

RagingCyclone wrote...

@Tigress, I have never had her move from her normal spot. Weird. Are you perhaps using a companion mod when she does that? Like Ser Gilmore?

Nope.  

[Tigress M]

I wish IRS-A included the changes to his reply from the "well we're in camp..." line like DT is set up to do. I hate that I still have to hear that EVERY time since DT and IRS-A conflict.