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[Khalara]

TheGrumpyOne wrote...
*BioWare! We demand more Alistair...possibly covered in honey and chocolate.*

I very much second this!!!!:O:O:devil:


Drive by smutting for your Thursday.



Edit; for ToP

Modifié par Khalara, 26 août 2010 - 04:46 .

[tuppence95]

inclemency wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

inclemency wrote...

Hey
can someone tell me if I've imagined an Alistair scene after Howe?  I
thought one was added to someone's mod, but I just killed Howe
and.........nothing.  Did I dream this, or is it a WIP?  Thanks!

You
probably mean cmessaz's new origin-specific scenes.  You have to go
back to Eamon's and talk to the maid in the foyer.

I have that, I just thought someone had added a short scene after killing Howe, maybe we just all talked about it. It's always a bit disconcerting when your HNF finally kills Howe, then......nothing, no one says a thing. Ah well, guess I dreamed it was a reality

It's meant to happen after killing Howe, but not at that location.  Back at Eamon's place, Alistair comforts your warden.




EEdited to add:  Not sure if it's been released yet.  This was from the beta test group.

Modifié par tuppence95, 26 août 2010 - 04:47 .

[inclemency]

Ahh okay, thanks, I was thinking there were two scenes for some odd reason.  ^^ Yes, I have it, can't wait to see it again 

Modifié par inclemency, 26 août 2010 - 04:49 .

[rak72]

Addai67 wrote...


The one good thing about the Morrigan DLC is that Gaider is writing for Morri.  So I'm gonna go out on a limb and say we won't be hearing any stupidity along the lines of the Wynne-Alistair grossness, something like "your BF was great in bed, thanks for the god baby."

Careful, EA might see that and make him  use it.

Modifié par rak72, 26 août 2010 - 04:54 .

[Elizabeth]

I agree lets get more of Alistair and where is our romantic night with Alistair in Awakening? He promised to see us again I have an Idea for a download for that if your intrested please contact me at eKennison2@road runner.com If your interested I think with thestory I just wrote about it it would fit in well with the game.I wrote it while playing the game, your friend Bethany

[cmessaz]

rak72 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...


The one good thing about the Morrigan DLC is that Gaider is writing for Morri.  So I'm gonna go out on a limb and say we won't be hearing any stupidity along the lines of the Wynne-Alistair grossness, something like "your BF was great in bed, thanks for the god baby."

Careful, EA might see that and make him  use it.

:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o

[Addai]

Quoting from Corker in the Witch Hunt thread, this sooo makes me want to see a photoshop of DuranDuranistair in diapers (since the DLC takes place a year after the Blight and hence the old god baby is still a baby). 

Possible OGB spell setup:

Sonic Scream (spirit damage)
Nauseating Odor (AoE Weakness spell)
Aura of Adorableness (Mind Blast variant)
Sleep (because it's so exhausting)
Life Drain (female targets only)

[FFZero]

The most depressing thing about this whole abandonment of
Origins and further DLC means that the likelihood of seeing Alistair again as
anything other than a filler character is 0.



edit: wtf happened to my post 0.o

 

Modifié par FFZero, 26 août 2010 - 05:15 .

[cmessaz]

Lol amen grumpy

[tuppence95]

TheGrumpyOne wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

rak72 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...


The one good thing about the Morrigan DLC is that Gaider is writing for Morri.  So I'm gonna go out on a limb and say we won't be hearing any stupidity along the lines of the Wynne-Alistair grossness, something like "your BF was great in bed, thanks for the god baby."

Careful, EA might see that and make him  use it.

:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o

I hope Gaider doesn't get mischievous. Don't inflict pain on us Darth! or else i will fly to Canada and torture your plushies.

    

Go, Grumpy!  

[Costin_Razvan]

TheGrumpyOne wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Umm, I don't think anyone is bad for either view, being excited or not. To each their own, I'm referring to the DLC decision...

*BioWare! We demand more Alistair...possibly covered in honey and chocolate.*

I am going to regret this, but seriously get the hell over it.

How, might I ask, would they even do an Alistair DLC with the Warden included? Now I am sure all of you would jump at the chance for some more Alistair sex, but that's not making a STORY. A DLC needs a story, and for that to even happen Bioware would either need to account for all the various endings for Alistair ( which include his death and exile at the Landsmeet btw ) or force upon us an ending for him at Origins, and I frankly do not want them to butcher my choices.

And what foes would you make for that DLC, assuming they would force the ending as king upon us?

The reason why Leliana and Morrigan DLC work is due to the fact that Leliana retells what happens before Origins, and Morrigan is the ONLY companion which cannot under any circumstance die and this DLC gives us an ending to her story ( and ending which you DO have with Alistair/Zevran/Leliana ). As much as I would love a Loghain/Zevran/Sten/Oghren DLC I would not under any circumstance want an ending of Origins be forced upon me.

But, hey more hawt Alistair would be cool right? Right? "facepalm"

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 26 août 2010 - 07:02 .

[cmessaz]

Well, idk about most people but I think the final dlc should include all but just Morrigan. Just my opinion though I'm not about to tell anyone what they should think.

I mean, you never saw me running around to Morrigan lovers telling them to "get over it" that she leaves them like she does. I saw their point whether I felt the same or not.

Modifié par cmessaz, 26 août 2010 - 07:01 .

[Costin_Razvan]

I mean, you never saw me running around to Morrigan lovers telling them to "get over it" that she leaves them like she does. I saw their point whether I felt the same or not.

The point of what I am trying to make is that you cannot make a DLC for Alistair + Warden unless you make people's choices at the end of Origins mean squat.

[cmessaz]

And I get that. I am excited for this DLC, it just seems cheap that it will not have at least some measure of closure for all LIs. I mean, GW Alistair was where during Awakening? And will be where while we chase Morrigan? My guess is we won't know, but I hope I'm wrong.

[Addai]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I am going to regret this, but seriously get the hell over it.

How, might I ask, would they even do an Alistair DLC with the Warden included? Now I am sure all of you would jump at the chance for some more Alistair sex, but that's not making a STORY. A DLC needs a story, and for that to even happen Bioware would either need to account for all the various endings for Alistair ( which include his death and exile at the Landsmeet btw ) or force upon us an ending for him at Origins, and I frankly do not want them to butcher my choices.

Seriously?  Seriously, you are going to come onto the Alistair thread and troll?

To actually treat your question as serious, Alistair is likely part of the DR story line for those of us who play female PCs.  Or do game choices only matter if they happen to match yours?  Presumably, somehow they are going to accommadate the many choices you had with Morrigan.

And what foes would you make for that DLC, assuming they would force the ending as king upon us?

Alistair is the default king if not importing.  Get over it.

The reason why Leliana and Morrigan DLC work is due to the fact that Leliana retells what happens before Origins, and Morrigan is the ONLY companion which cannot under any circumstance die and this DLC gives us an ending to her story ( and ending which you DO have with Alistair/Zevran/Leliana ). As much as I would love a Loghain/Zevran/Sten/Oghren DLC I would not under any circumstance want an ending of Origins be forced upon me.

But, hey more hawt Alistair would be cool right? Right? "facepalm"

So they can imaginatively add in a Leliana story line but not for any other companion?  How, exactly, do you figure that?

[Costin_Razvan]

And I get that. I am excited for this DLC, it just seems cheap that it will not have at least some measure of closure for all LIs. I mean, GW Alistair was where during Awakening? And will be where while we chase Morrigan? My guess is we won't know, but I hope I'm wrong.

You have a sodding measure of closure for all LIs save for Morrigan, for Alistair, Zevran, Leliana who all have epilogue slides detailing what happens to them and the Warden at the end of Awakening.

This DLC will only give that same closure to those that romanced Morrigan.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 26 août 2010 - 07:24 .

[cmessaz]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

And I get that. I am excited for this DLC, it just seems cheap that it will not have at least some measure of closure for all LIs. I mean, GW Alistair was where during Awakening? And will be where while we chase Morrigan? My guess is we won't know, but I hope I'm wrong.

You have a sodding measure of closure for all LIs save for Morrigan, for Alistair, Zevran, Leliana who all have epilogue slides detailing what happens to them and the Warden at the end of Awakening.

This DLC will only give that same closure to those that romanced Morrigan.

Hang on, Alistair gets a mention in the slide as returning to our side, so them not explaining why he is again not there makes 0 sense. So....because I didn't romance Morrigan I get no story continuity? At least we KNOW why Morrigan isn't in Awakening.

Modifié par cmessaz, 26 août 2010 - 07:16 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Addai67 wrote...

Alistair is the default king if not importing.  Get over it.

That's not really relevent to what he is saying. And default =/= canon, especially when the other endings were accomodated in Awakening.

But yes, I can understand that not having Alistair be present in the story that is going to deal with his as of yet only child can be very dissapointing. But honestly, I think Morrigan romancers need that closure more so than those who romanced Alistair, where there is a certain level of closure provided.

So I am empathic, but I don't think they could have made an Alistair DLC that would have been significant. He doesn't have a spectacular backstory like Leliana or Zevran, and doesnt' have a spectacular or unresolved ending like Morrigan.

[KnightofPhoenix]

cmessaz wrote...

Hang on, Alistair gets a mention in the slide as returning to our side, so them not explaining why he is again not there makes 0 sense. So....because I didn't romance Morrigan I get no story continuity? At least we KNOW why Morrigan isn't in Awakening.

Simple, he is either king, so is too busy to be at your side. Or he went to weisshaupt to make tribute to Duncan and thus couldn't be here. Or some other thing that is not really spectacular or worth making a DLC about. Or drunk / dead.

Yes it sucks. But I am nto sure how they can do a DLC to deal with it.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 26 août 2010 - 07:21 .

[cmessaz]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Alistair is the default king if not importing.  Get over it.

That's not really relevent to what he is saying. And default =/= canon, especially when the other endings were accomodated in Awakening.

But yes, I can understand that not having Alistair be present in the story that is going to deal with his as of yet only child can be very dissapointing. But honestly, I think Morrigan romancers need that closure more so than those who romanced Alistair, where there is a certain level of closure provided.

So I am empathic, but I don't think they could have made an Alistair DLC that would have been significant. He doesn't have a spectacular backstory like Leliana or Zevran, and doesnt' have a spectacular or unresolved ending like Morrigan.

I do see your point and again I am thrilled. But my issue: I make Alistair a grey warden with me in one of my endings. Where the hell was he in Awakening? We got no letter, nothing. At the end we ran off together. So he is not present in the final DLC, because? I would be just fine if they would give me a reason for his absence, whatever it may be. But they gave us jack, he's just not there and I suspect it will be the same in this DLC. THAT is my problem.

[cmessaz]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Hang on, Alistair gets a mention in the slide as returning to our side, so them not explaining why he is again not there makes 0 sense. So....because I didn't romance Morrigan I get no story continuity? At least we KNOW why Morrigan isn't in Awakening.

Simple, he is either king, so is too busy to be at your side. Or he went to weisshaupt to make tribute to Duncan and thus couldn't be here. Or some other thing that is not really spectacular or worth making a DLC about. Or drunk / dead.

Yes it sucks. But I am nto sure how they can do a DLC to deal with it.

Again, a letter at least would have been nice. It's just a big mystery. I like Morrigan and am not upset that her story is the DLC. I think people are getting the wrong idea. But something saying where Alistair is or w/e would not be hard to accomplish.

Edit: About Alistair DLC, I didn't like Leliana's song and I was actually one of the few who said I wouldn't be interested even if it was Alistair's past. 

Modifié par cmessaz, 26 août 2010 - 07:23 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

cmessaz wrote...
I do see your point and again I am thrilled. But my issue: I make Alistair a grey warden with me in one of my endings. Where the hell was he in Awakening? We got no letter, nothing. At the end we ran off together. So he is not present in the final DLC, because? I would be just fine if they would give me a reason for his absence, whatever it may be. But they gave us jack, he's just not there and I suspect it will be the same in this DLC. THAT is my problem.

I concur that a letter from him in Awakening if a GW explaining his absence would have been great.
Maybe you get one in the DLC? Who knows. 

[Addai]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

But yes, I can understand that not having Alistair be present in the story that is going to deal with his as of yet only child can be very dissapointing. But honestly, I think Morrigan romancers need that closure more so than those who romanced Alistair, where there is a certain level of closure provided.

I think few here would say that we didn't want to see a resolution to the DR/ Morrigan story line.  Ok, some have no interest in Morrigan at all, but you know that's not me and not a lot of others as well.  Even if we didn't have a Morrigan romance as central to our games, just look at my ff story to see that I consider her pivotal.  If anything, I'm just cringing at the thought that a cheap DLC is being used to provide this closure, rather than a longer expac.

So I am empathic, but I don't think they could have made an Alistair DLC that would have been significant. He doesn't have a spectacular backstory like Leliana or Zevran, and doesnt' have a spectacular or unresolved ending like Morrigan.

It simply isn't true that you couldn't have anything Alistair-related as a DLC.  Really, do you think the writers are that unimaginative?  The idea we've talked about here is a DLC with a newly recruited Warden Alistair and Duncan as controllable character, fighting a darkspawn battle, maybe we see Alistair's Joining where Riordan is also present, see some of the other Fereldan Wardens you only glimpse in the DN origin.

Sorry, but you guys really need to back off.  This is not the place for this argument, and maybe not the time.

[Costin_Razvan]

Seriously? Seriously, you are going to come onto the Alistair thread and troll?

To actually treat your question as serious, Alistair is likely part of the DR story line for those of us who play female PCs. Or do game choices only matter if they happen to match yours? Presumably, somehow they are going to accommadate the many choices you had with Morrigan.

And do the games of those that did not make Alistair King, killed him/exiled him not matter in the sodding slightest? Bioware sells itself on saying our choices matter, and I believe that on this very same forum people complained as hell when Dragon Age 2 was announced, with the removal of the Warden as a protagonist and the initial belief that our choices would not matter.

The many choices I had with Morrigan? There are only 3 major choices with Morrigan in the entire game, the rest is just small talk.

To kill Flemeth or not in her personal quest ( not that it matters much in the end, since Flemeth returns. ).
To accept the DR or not.
To romance her or not.

Only those last 2 really matter for the greater story. For Alistair you would have the choice to romance him, the choice to make him do the DR or not, the choice whether or not he sacrificies himself if you do not take the DR, the choice to make him king or not. The choice if you spare Loghain or not and if you spare Loghain whether he is killed/exiled/married to Anora.

Alistair is the default king if not importing. Get over it.

And that only happens if you make an Orlesian warden, that is the default state. But how would you feel about being forced into a Loghain DLC with Alistair dead for example?

So they can imaginatively add in a Leliana story line but not for any other companion? How, exactly, do you figure that?

If they make a DLC about Alistair before Origins, then I would be all for it. But I was under the impression most of the comments were directed at not having a DLC with Alistair AFTER Origins.

cmessaz: Fair enough on the Alistair GW but not king ending.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 26 août 2010 - 07:26 .