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Sod the letter, make him a companion!

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Hey, cmessaz! What are the numbers in the fourth columns of tints.xls for? Can I just put a '0'?
Edit: whoops, never mind, I was on the wrong page....

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errant_knight wrote...

Hey, cmessaz! What are the numbers in the fourth columns of tints.xls for? Can I just put a '0'?
Edit: whoops, never mind, I was on the wrong page....

tints aren't my thing lol so I'm not 100 percent.

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DahliaLynn wrote...

Elves now get an improved scene, and now,
Dwarves get kisses too :wub:

Update found here

Yay, dwarf kisses!  You did it again.  The kneeling is sooo romantic.

I made a video!

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cmessaz wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Hmmm. They are gonna release Awakening's resources pretty pleeeaaasseee

If they did that would you be able to create an Alistair letter mod? :o:wub:

*looks at Lady D and whistles*


*whistles back*  'Tis a joint effort, dear.

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DahliaLynn updated the elf kiss, and I made a new video of it here.

Hot as lava baby!  :devil:

It hasn't been very smutty around here today.  Too much DLC nonsense.

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DahliaLynn wrote...

Elves now get an improved scene, and now,
Dwarves get kisses too :wub:

Update found here


Thank you Posted Image

All my charatcers are very happy Posted Image

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Lanfaer01 wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

Elves now get an improved scene, and now,
Dwarves get kisses too :wub:

Update found here


Thank you Posted Image

All my charatcers are very happy Posted Image

*snip*
*snip*

awwwww
so cute!! this man really gets action :wub::wub: great pics !

Anyone know how many of us Alistair lovers are really out there? It seems we are many, but looking at the FB Alistair fan page which has approx 3500 fans as opposed to 143,000 DA :o fan members ...perhaps we are not a large a group as one would think :mellow:. --really curious to know of the percentage we take up overall.

Edit:
Have created a poll

Modifié par DahliaLynn, 27 août 2010 - 11:01 .


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 Interesting results on that poll so far.

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Any subset of a game will naturally have less fans than the game as a whole. I wouldn't necessarily use that as a benchmark. You'd need to look at fans for the other LIs and then the make-up of those groups. Are people who romance Alistair a subsection who are more or less likely to use FB than say Morrigan fans? It would be interesting to see a complete work-up of all DAO fans, but it would be impossible to get.

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LadyDamodred wrote...

Any subset of a game will naturally have less fans than the game as a whole. I wouldn't necessarily use that as a benchmark. You'd need to look at fans for the other LIs and then the make-up of those groups. Are people who romance Alistair a subsection who are more or less likely to use FB than say Morrigan fans? It would be interesting to see a complete work-up of all DAO fans, but it would be impossible to get.


Agreed. There is also the factor of how many fans are actually involved in any network, or even online at all. The least I could do would be create a poll that distinguishes between gender, as well as preferences relating to romance and hope that people post the link elsewhere so as to get as much of a wide exposure as possible. 

Modifié par DahliaLynn, 27 août 2010 - 02:41 .


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If you go by BW's marketing, the Leliana and Morrigan fans outpace, otherwise they would not have made their DLCs. I'm assuming they go on gameplay feedback as well as focus group. The more I thought about that David Gaider interview and his comment that they changed Alistair's character concept based specifically on male players' reaction, the more it irritates me. It shouldn't, since you can't argue with results of course! Also it just is what it is- men play more games, they have to cater to them. I wouldn't be playing if my husband hadn't bought it, so there you go. But all the same it's an indication that female players will always be an afterthought, so there will be fewer of us, and on it goes.

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Addai67 wrote...

If you go by BW's marketing, the Leliana and Morrigan fans outpace, otherwise they would not have made their DLCs. I'm assuming they go on gameplay feedback as well as focus group. The more I thought about that David Gaider interview and his comment that they changed Alistair's character concept based specifically on male players' reaction, the more it irritates me. It shouldn't, since you can't argue with results of course! Also it just is what it is- men play more games, they have to cater to them. I wouldn't be playing if my husband hadn't bought it, so there you go. But all the same it's an indication that female players will always be an afterthought, so there will be fewer of us, and on it goes.


Same here. I like video games but rarely do I ever look for games for myself. I see my husband play and go "ooh, that might be fun."  I get that there are more males playing games than females but my husband played on the xbox twice - I played four times and then went and bought the pc version and all dlc...again. They got twice as much money from me and I would gladly give them more but without appealing to my husband first they woud have never gotten my attention...sad.

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Yankee23 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

If you go by BW's marketing, the Leliana and Morrigan fans outpace, otherwise they would not have made their DLCs. I'm assuming they go on gameplay feedback as well as focus group. The more I thought about that David Gaider interview and his comment that they changed Alistair's character concept based specifically on male players' reaction, the more it irritates me. It shouldn't, since you can't argue with results of course! Also it just is what it is- men play more games, they have to cater to them. I wouldn't be playing if my husband hadn't bought it, so there you go. But all the same it's an indication that female players will always be an afterthought, so there will be fewer of us, and on it goes.


Same here. I like video games but rarely do I ever look for games for myself. I see my husband play and go "ooh, that might be fun."  I get that there are more males playing games than females but my husband played on the xbox twice - I played four times and then went and bought the pc version and all dlc...again. They got twice as much money from me and I would gladly give them more but without appealing to my husband first they woud have never gotten my attention...sad.

That's probably expected. I am one of the more rare femme folk who has been enjoying video games since childhood, so my type would most likely be the lowest on the minority scale.
The one interesting thing that has evolved here is most likely the female romance/gaming connection that this game has created, which actually seems to have introduced more unlikely females into the gaming community.
If indeed they continue the more emotional/immersive route, I believe that very slowly the ratio will start to even out in the next 10 years or so. I just took a look at this interview and noticed Mike Laidlaw mentioning the whole idea of involving and immersing the player in the "movie". To me that say's "virtual reality" in a certain sense, and that caters to all imo.

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Right there with Dahlia. I've been a gamer since childhood, and actually play more video games than my husband!

B)

Modifié par cmessaz, 27 août 2010 - 03:41 .


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I've been gaming for years.  I worked as a gamemaster for one of the early text-based mprpgs in the 90's and more than half of my co-workers were female.  Many of them have moved on and have been working for games like WoW and EQII.  Most of my current gaming friends are female.  Yes, I still think we are a minority ... but a reasonably sized one.  

I WISH my husband played games!  He indulges me in my game addictions, but he's not interested at all.

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tuppence95 wrote...

I've been gaming for years.  I worked as a gamemaster for one of the early text-based mprpgs in the 90's and more than half of my co-workers were female.  Many of them have moved on and have been working for games like WoW and EQII.  Most of my current gaming friends are female.  Yes, I still think we are a minority ... but a reasonably sized one.  

I WISH my husband played games!  He indulges me in my game addictions, but he's not interested at all.

Heh, mine is into mostly craptastic games, like Madden, and UFC. But he'll occasionally play Mortal Kombat vs DC with me, and Army of Two.

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tuppence95 wrote...

I've been gaming for years.  I worked as a gamemaster for one of the early text-based mprpgs in the 90's and more than half of my co-workers were female.  Many of them have moved on and have been working for games like WoW and EQII.  Most of my current gaming friends are female.  Yes, I still think we are a minority ... but a reasonably sized one.  

I WISH my husband played games!  He indulges me in my game addictions, but he's not interested at all.


I think that's kind of the point. Imo, (and I am not expert, btwPosted Image) they take it for granted that you girls are on board so they don't target you specifically and they make no attempt to go after the group like Addai and I, they attract the men and if it gets them some female players...well that's nice, too. You would think someone, somewhere would realize they have some markets that haven't been fully tapped. I don't expect them to change their entire marketing strategy, but if they have something that would appeal to a wider group they should get the word out better.

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cmessaz wrote...

tuppence95 wrote...

I've been gaming for years.  I worked as a gamemaster for one of the early text-based mprpgs in the 90's and more than half of my co-workers were female.  Many of them have moved on and have been working for games like WoW and EQII.  Most of my current gaming friends are female.  Yes, I still think we are a minority ... but a reasonably sized one.  

I WISH my husband played games!  He indulges me in my game addictions, but he's not interested at all.

Heh, mine is into mostly craptastic games, like Madden, and UFC. But he'll occasionally play Mortal Kombat vs DC with me, and Army of Two.


Mine just likes to watch news, Nova and sports and read non-fiction.  Which is kinda strange that he has mostly serious hobbies because he's such a goofy guy. 

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DahliaLynn wrote...

Yankee23 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

If you go by BW's marketing, the Leliana and Morrigan fans outpace, otherwise they would not have made their DLCs. I'm assuming they go on gameplay feedback as well as focus group. The more I thought about that David Gaider interview and his comment that they changed Alistair's character concept based specifically on male players' reaction, the more it irritates me. It shouldn't, since you can't argue with results of course! Also it just is what it is- men play more games, they have to cater to them. I wouldn't be playing if my husband hadn't bought it, so there you go. But all the same it's an indication that female players will always be an afterthought, so there will be fewer of us, and on it goes.


Same here. I like video games but rarely do I ever look for games for myself. I see my husband play and go "ooh, that might be fun."  I get that there are more males playing games than females but my husband played on the xbox twice - I played four times and then went and bought the pc version and all dlc...again. They got twice as much money from me and I would gladly give them more but without appealing to my husband first they woud have never gotten my attention...sad.

That's probably expected. I am one of the more rare femme folk who has been enjoying video games since childhood, so my type would most likely be the lowest on the minority scale.
The one interesting thing that has evolved here is most likely the female romance/gaming connection that this game has created, which actually seems to have introduced more unlikely females into the gaming community.
If indeed they continue the more emotional/immersive route, I believe that very slowly the ratio will start to even out in the next 10 years or so. I just took a look at this interview and noticed Mike Laidlaw mentioning the whole idea of involving and immersing the player in the "movie". To me that say's "virtual reality" in a certain sense, and that caters to all imo.

I got it because I ran across a reference to it in a Divinity 2 forum, went and read a review, and bought it. I ended up liking it far more than Divinity 2, which I also enjoyed, but which lost the plot to battle in the second half of the game, making it less appealing. You also don't have companions, and it's more of an action RPG, which I found I didn't enjoy anywhere near as much. I bought it because it was something different, which makes what's happening now a tad ironic.

Modifié par errant_knight, 27 août 2010 - 04:10 .


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Yankee23 wrote...

tuppence95 wrote...

I've been gaming for years.  I worked as a gamemaster for one of the early text-based mprpgs in the 90's and more than half of my co-workers were female.  Many of them have moved on and have been working for games like WoW and EQII.  Most of my current gaming friends are female.  Yes, I still think we are a minority ... but a reasonably sized one.  

I WISH my husband played games!  He indulges me in my game addictions, but he's not interested at all.


I think that's kind of the point. Imo, (and I am not expert, btwPosted Image) they take it for granted that you girls are on board so they don't target you specifically and they make no attempt to go after the group like Addai and I, they attract the men and if it gets them some female players...well that's nice, too. You would think someone, somewhere would realize they have some markets that haven't been fully tapped. I don't expect them to change their entire marketing strategy, but if they have something that would appeal to a wider group they should get the word out better.


Yes, I'm fairly certain you are right.  It's disappointing, since we were so thrilled when we started playing DA to find a game that seemed to understand what many women are looking for in a game.

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tuppence95 wrote...

I've been gaming for years.  I worked as a gamemaster for one of the early text-based mprpgs in the 90's and more than half of my co-workers were female.  Many of them have moved on and have been working for games like WoW and EQII.  Most of my current gaming friends are female.  Yes, I still think we are a minority ... but a reasonably sized one.  

I WISH my husband played games!  He indulges me in my game addictions, but he's not interested at all.


I'm really old, and have been gaming since pen-and-paper rpg's in college in the 1970s.  I went 'online' in 1979 to play MUDs ,and haven't stopped yet.  My husband really doesn't play, etiher, but indulges me, as well...we are fortunate!  It's been great to see more women over the years in games I've played, and in forums to discuss those games. 

Unfortunately, female gamers of my generation are extremely few and far between.  Lol, back in June we went to a small family gathering up at the cottage and here I was coping with DA:O/Alistair withdrawal in a group that would have no comprehension of what the heck I was talking about if I mentioned anything about gaming.  *sigh*

Hopefully, one day we'll become a force to be reckoned with and written for....Bioware sure came close with this game.

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inclemency wrote...

I'm really old, and have been gaming since pen-and-paper rpg's in college in the 1970s.  I went 'online' in 1979 to play MUDs ,and haven't stopped yet.  My husband really doesn't play, etiher, but indulges me, as well...we are fortunate!  It's been great to see more women over the years in games I've played, and in forums to discuss those games. 

Unfortunately, female gamers of my generation are extremely few and far between.  Lol, back in June we went to a small family gathering up at the cottage and here I was coping with DA:O/Alistair withdrawal in a group that would have no comprehension of what the heck I was talking about if I mentioned anything about gaming.  *sigh*

Hopefully, one day we'll become a force to be reckoned with and written for....Bioware sure came close with this game.


Did you ever try playing a couple of very old games called Gemstone III or Dragonrealms?

edited to add:  actually, I shouldn't say "very old" since they are still around.

Modifié par tuppence95, 27 août 2010 - 04:14 .


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tuppence95 wrote...

I've been gaming for years.  I worked as a gamemaster for one of the early text-based mprpgs in the 90's and more than half of my co-workers were female.  Many of them have moved on and have been working for games like WoW and EQII.  Most of my current gaming friends are female.  Yes, I still think we are a minority ... but a reasonably sized one.  

I WISH my husband played games!  He indulges me in my game addictions, but he's not interested at all.


You're one of the lucky ones I think. I was raised in New York, and in my day, I knew no girl who had the passion I had for video games. I then found myself totally into the Star Wars films, (maybe cuz of Han Solo? *blush*
so I had the sci fi-escape-romnace tendency as well...I could never really get into/enjoy the dungeons and dragons rp community though.  I just loved eye/hand coordination games spanning all types and there was no other girl to be found :D
DA sort of introduced me to a whole new planet so to speak, and it feels great to see others with similar interests.

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tuppence95 wrote...

Did you ever try playing a couple of very old games called Gemstone III or Dragonrealms?

edited to add:  actually, I shouldn't say "very old" since they are still around.


I remember playing GemStone on Prodigy.  I think it had been on AOL, which I hated, and the group a friend of mine and I led moved from AOL to FF.net, then to DalNET.  I played on Prodigy a bit, but most of my online time during the early-to-mid 90's was spent on DalNET, where I was an IRCop.  I did mostly console gaming then, as well.  But...I do remember the game, Dragonrealms, too, but I did no more than wander around there.

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