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Golems DLC: Strategies for beating the Harvester on Hard difficulty?


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with a placable? what in the deuce is that fool?

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LPPrince wrote...

Craig Graff wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Anyone know exactly HOW to use the switch near the boss? I can't interact with it, even during "red".


If you are playing on console to interact with a placeable during combat use the dpad to highlight the placeable and A (on XBox 360) or X (on PS3).


Here's what we got(from a dev)


can you try this out Prince? I just gave up and got offline.  So if you can try it out that would be great

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OCD Skifer wrote...

with a placable? what in the deuce is that fool?


*facepalm*

He's talking about the switch. Press up on the d-pad to select it when you're looking at it, and then A to activate it.

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deathrow1993 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Craig Graff wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Anyone know exactly HOW to use the switch near the boss? I can't interact with it, even during "red".


If you are playing on console to interact with a placeable during combat use the dpad to highlight the placeable and A (on XBox 360) or X (on PS3).


Here's what we got(from a dev)


can you try this out Prince? I just gave up and got offline.  So if you can try it out that would be great


It works. You can use that to kill the skeletons.

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...hm, amazing, it works, never knew you could use environment items in combat...and i have all but these achievements...Quite interesting....LP prince, add me on xbox, i wanna talk to you real fast lmao, OCD Skifer of course by moi name

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LPPrince wrote...

deathrow1993 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Craig Graff wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Anyone know exactly HOW to use the switch near the boss? I can't interact with it, even during "red".


If you are playing on console to interact with a placeable during combat use the dpad to highlight the placeable and A (on XBox 360) or X (on PS3).


Here's what we got(from a dev)


can you try this out Prince? I just gave up and got offline.  So if you can try it out that would be great


It works. You can use that to kill the skeletons.


KK thank you so much =)

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Beat it with a rogue. set all characters to auto heal at <75%, have the golem team heal at <75% since it the only way he heals himself. Use the switch to kill skeletons in first part as soon as screen changes and keep hammering harvester. in second part use assassin power, than Ghost or Legion scout ability when ready to become immune to damage and hammer crawler form and forget about team. When out of stamia use drought and keep hammering with abilities.

PS was mobbed by 8 orange name skeletons at end and still beat him.

Modifié par TOBY FLENDERSON, 10 août 2010 - 06:21 .


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OMG, i got it!.....i lost my entire team, and i DIED, but i killed him RIGHT as i died, so....i got the cutscene, thank god...this took me 4 hours of agony ..omg...

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Set your Team up to heal themselves at 75%, have EVERY single buff you can mange, ( The flaming weapons helps a LOT if your a warrior, like me... i had 105 Strength and 25 constitution..more health is likely something that makes it easier) uhm, pruss up on the D pad, so you can activate the switch of course, then well, yea...If you lose your team before the second part of the battle, let them kill you, you WILL NOT manage to solo this guy on hard, I got lucky, lost all my team mates on the second round, and DIED right as i killed him, LUCK loved me for a moment....Its hard to get him in a corner, but if you can, you could make it much easier. and make sure your golem is FULLY UPGRADED PEOPLE

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^just did what above user said! YAY now DA is complete for me again!

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Ironically, I still don't have it. Tried with my first Warden, but couldn't do it.



Tried with my second Warden(weaker, but had 100 more health potions) and she did even worse.



So I'm going to play through Awakening with her, and THEN try again.

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Just did it on nightmare, first try. My character is a bloodmage/battlemage/arcanewarrior though. Elemental Chaos was useful.



Party was useless.

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How the hell can you withstand to be hit by 5-6 or more yellow/orange skeletons that hits for 60 or more on a plate character?
My character is a twohanded warrior lvl 35 and dies shortly
The golem dies in a blink, and the healing he does is unremarkable
The 'tank' is so weak it's laugable
The rogue does good damage, but he wears leather... in the second phase he dies too quickly

The first phase is quite easy even on hard difficulti, but the second is simply impossible.
Suggestion do quickly kill the 'trash' mob?
I'm not going to reload my last save in awakening just to craft 1-2 hundred potion and restart this ****ing short DLC just for a fight completely unbalanced.

Modifié par DocDoomII, 10 août 2010 - 09:30 .


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Anyone else think that this is the worst DLC so far? I found it extremely tedious.

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I got it my first time then did it on nightmare, but I had a maxed out level 35 character with really powerful stuff. Still it was pretty difficult.

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DocDoomII wrote...

How the hell can you withstand to be hit by 5-6 or more yellow/orange skeletons that hits for 60 or more on a plate character?
My character is a twohanded warrior lvl 35 and dies shortly
The golem dies in a blink, and the healing he does is unremarkable
The 'tank' is so weak it's laugable
The rogue does good damage, but he wears leather... in the second phase he dies too quickly

The first phase is quite easy even on hard difficulti, but the second is simply impossible.
Suggestion do quickly kill the 'trash' mob?
I'm not going to reload my last save in awakening just to craft 1-2 hundred potion and restart this ****ing short DLC just for a fight completely unbalanced.


I just ignored the skeletons. I had the usual arcane warrior buffs, plus stone armour and arcane shield. Full plate, duel wielding vigilance and velvet dagger.

I kept elemental chaos on to wear down and kill some of the trash mobs, but ignored them and chased around the harvester. Getting hurt gives me mana, and i chugged a couple of lyrium potions when it got too low. On the rare occasion I was injured, I used a greater health potion.

And that was it. I just kept hammering the harvester until it died, sometimes chugging a potion. :happy:

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Kirika69 wrote...

Just did it on nightmare, first try. My character is a bloodmage/battlemage/arcanewarrior though. Elemental Chaos was useful.

Party was useless.


I think you did not... how come everyone that claimed killing harvester got their achievement and you did not?

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When ive beaten 1st form than, all of a sudden, 2 other corpses-bosses (orange names) appeared, and i had to fight 3 bosses (with the harvester 2nd form) at once with my pc and Jarrik (?) still alive. What the hell?! I know they said that it was going to be hard, but unbeatable? I,m doing it on nightamre

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macpicviu wrote...

Kirika69 wrote...

Just did it on nightmare, first try. My character is a bloodmage/battlemage/arcanewarrior though. Elemental Chaos was useful.

Party was useless.


I think you did not... how come everyone that claimed killing harvester got their achievement and you did not?


Because I disable the online reporting thing. I'll enable now... JUST FOR YOU. lol

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Kirika69 wrote...

macpicviu wrote...

Kirika69 wrote...

Just did it on nightmare, first try. My character is a bloodmage/battlemage/arcanewarrior though. Elemental Chaos was useful.

Party was useless.


I think you did not... how come everyone that claimed killing harvester got their achievement and you did not?


Because I disable the online reporting thing. I'll enable now... JUST FOR YOU. lol


While the profile slowly updates... have this screenshot: http://i953.photobuc...17-36-08-47.jpg

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LPPrince wrote...

I just need to know how in the hell people insta killed the skeletons with the switch.

I have no idea how to activate it.

You can interact with items in battle in the PC version, my friend has it. Can't do it on the 360 to my knowledge. Part of the "streamlining" they did.

Modifié par KingDan97, 10 août 2010 - 11:45 .


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Ok, probably the most frustrating and totally imbalanced fight ever and even more frustrating than 32 boss golems I had to fight all at once in one fan-made dungeon...

But after two painful hours, I managed to kill the Harvester on Nightmare difficulty just with melee characters. My char is dual wield warrior lvl 35 imported from Awakening (just one import with all items I had right before pulling The Mother, no potion crafting, just the few potions I had at that time).

Luckilly I had one respec tome, which I used with Brogan to change his stats and talents a bit, less STR (57 -> 48), no CUN, no Magic, more CON, and change reaver for guardian and berserker for paladin.

And my strategy:

PHASE 1
1) Set Hold Position for your party, with Golem run to Switch button, where he will stand for the whole phase and you will use him to press the button and with Brogan pull the boss and kite him little bit closer to Golem
2) After 1st skeleton spawns, use the Switch button to kill him instantly and with Warden, Jerrik and Bronto run towards Boss and start attacking him
3) Now just nuke the cr*p out of him, drink healing potions like an alcoholic and after his cleave aoe or whatever it is, use Golems Heal spell and some lesser potions
4) As his HP goes lower, wave of skeletons will spawn, w8 for all 3 of them and hit the Switch button, it will kill even the skeletons you cannot directly see, but you know they are there (minimap Survival tracking)
5) Now its just zerg and potion drinking till phase 2, the whole party HAS TO survive, or else phase 2 will become impossible

PHASE 2
6) Disable Hold Position and with everyone target the Boss, if you have a Champion in your group, use War Cry on cooldown
7) Don't know if his jumping is totally random or scripted in some way, but succesful kill depends on where he'll jump, try to push him into one of those corners just under the stairs
8) Chase him only with DPS chars, with Bronto and Brogan taunt skeletons like mad and keep drinking potions, use War Cry, Quake, Hurl, all crowd control abilities you have
9) And now just pray to God, because from this moment it's pure luck in my opinion, key is to hold all skeletons in one place, so the DPS don't have to worry about them and can nuke the Boss, throw anything you've got on him
10) If everything goes well, the Harvester should be dead by now, as well as your tank, who simply can not take forever the insane crit damage from adds (at least my poor Brogan with 724 HP, 59 armor buffed, 127 defense couldn't :( but except him nobody else died, not even Bronto)

(And yes, i am not counting with the Revival spell for the battle, I killed the Boss without it, because, well, I found the revival upgrade after I finished the DLC, what a morron I am :) )

Sorry for my english, it's not my native language, hope it wasn't too chaotic and somebody can benefit from it.

And unfortunatelly my profile refuses to update, so http://img814.images...10081100443.jpg

Overall it was enjoyable DLC with intense atmosphere, I really liked it, it was worth the money, but the last fight was way too brutal :)

Modifié par Jeffry, 11 août 2010 - 02:39 .


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I just killed harvester on hard with a rogue (archer specced) that i made in the new DLC, tbh if you time the pillar activate's when theres a few skeletons up its not a hard fight, you get a respec book when you start up the game, i suggest using that on the nervous tank if your not playing one and give him insolent + carapace and you should be fine (i dont even have awakening xpac so no guardian etc available)



The "green room" was ALOT harder imo and i had to kite for 20 minutes until i finally cleared it out hehe, was a fun dlc actually that was pretty challenging (if you made a new toon atleast) 4/5


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I have just done this on Nightmare...

I share some tactics now, based on a TWO-HANDED WARRIOR main character.(I dont know the name of some skills because I play it in Hungarian :P).

The Character

-He is fully geared up from awakening, nearly the best stuff he has. He has DAMAGE DEALER equipment, not tank and I put nearly all of my points on strength (needed some cunning for persuasion).
-He is a Champion/Berserker/Spirit Warrior.
-Has a ****load of powerful healing and stamina potions.
-If you have some retalent tomes from Awakening, use them to make the dwarves better and gear them up properly.
-Bronto sucks, dont care for him.


Overall tips & hints.

-I kept up Berserker buff, the buff that makes you immune to pushback and has a green icon (sry:p), and changed to Spirit Warrior buff when i needed magic damage. The warrior dwarf gave me
the Champion aura, golem used healing aura and fiery weapons aura.
-The warrior dwarf was set on Guardian spec., I used his protection buffs on cooldowns.
-Used a LOT of healing and stamina potions (Awakening....).

1. Phase
-I moved the whole team to the right side, to the switch.
-I moved the golem next to the switch and tapped hold position, and I didnt attack with him. His damage sucks, cant use potions and dies fast, so I kept him away to be able to use his RESURRECTION skill if needed. He is just support. I also used the switch with him.
-I attacked the Boss with the dwarves and my Main, using War Cry and other aoe attacks that do some stunand crowd control until i could use the switch.
-Save your ass-kicking damage skills until the last switch-time, then use them to zerg him down as fast as you can before more skeletons arrive.

2. Phase
-Golem remained in the same role, healing and supporting.
-I killed as many skeletons with the dwarves as I could, they tanked them too.
-I pursued the Harvester alone with my Main char. I canceled the spirit warrior buff, because I did lower damage with it (dont know why...). My main did a lot of damage to the Harvester(150+ standard hits + runes + fiery weapon aura), enough to kill him alone and sustain his attacks.

Good luck!

Modifié par Csucsuu, 11 août 2010 - 12:05 .


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Question: Can I keep the difficulty on Normal through the entire DLC, then switch it up to Hard just before the fight and get the Achievement that way?